Sora on 15 Jul 2007 12:11 am
Kingdom Hearts vs. Final Fantasy
Lets start with Kingdom hearts as it’s a staple of this site, and more familiar to the general public.
KINGDOM HEARTS
Kingdom hearts is an action adventure RPG that takes place in the various worlds found in the most memorable disney movies, and cartoons, as well as some original worlds thrown in to spice things up.
In the first game Sora takes the lead role with Donald and Goofy.
Supporting characters are Kairi and Riku, and less important supporting roles are various people from the FF franchise and Disney movies.
The story line while very deep and involving can be described simply as thus. Three inquisitive and curious friends(Sora, Rikku, Kairi) live on an island together and plot to see “The other worlds” using a boat they’ve constructed from rough supplies around the island. The night before the planned leave date fate intervenes and Sora’s world is drug into the darkness by the Heartless.
During the course of this Sora is given the keyblade, and defeats a major heartless, despite this his world is still drug into the darkness and Sora wakes up in a new town. (Traverse?), where he is found by Goofy and Donald.
Goofy and Donald inform Sora that he is the chosen keyblade wielder, and that they need his help to get their king back (Mickey).
Sora, being a nice guy and all, decides to help them out, while searching for his own friends, who were lost when his world was.
Sora traverses the various worlds, sealing them off from the heartless, and making new friends and memory’s all along the way. Eventually Sora does find his friend, but sadly one of them has seemingly been lost to the Darnkess, Rikku, who was tempted with its power.
I won’t go more into the story line as to avoid putting up blatant spoilers.
As for the gameplay of KH1 it can be some what repetitive.
You start off with a kingdom key, and in the beginning it is almost entirley hack and slash.
Though as time progresses Sora gains spells, and abilities which are activated through various play styles, and spells through a quick trigger or option menu.
The game play is entirley in real time, though an option menu is present making long option chains dangerous.
Thats why the quick trigger(Shortcut) is there, to avoid you getting killed because you can’t navigate to the Cure spell faster than that really big heartless over there with the over sized weapon can crush you into the ground with it.
Worlds are navigated freely, and split up into sections with short almost unnoticeable load times in between them.
KINGDOM HEARTS 2
The story for this game starts off in something of a… What? Unless you’ve played what I call KH1.5, or Chain of memories, which was released on the GBA.
You start of as a character named Roxas with three friends, two boys and a girl. You play as Roxas in what would seem to be a several hour long tutorial (1-2 hrs) wondering “Where’s Sora?” the entire time. Roxas starts having weird “Dreams” that don’t seem to belong to him, and then a strange cloaked person who could appear to have stopped time approaches you, and asks you if you know who you are, if your coming back.. This is when you get the Keyblade. You fight off the “Strange” enemies and look deeper into this mystery. At this point your thinking there will be no Sora, wondering why he was on the cover in the first place.
But fear not, after taking down several more strange enemies (Which your probably yelling at the T.V. screen going, “THEY’RE HEARTLESS!!” and being dead wrong every time the information screen pops up) and a boss you discover that Sora is in fact still alive.
Soon gameplay takes over with Sora and the story continues.
As far as combat and gameplay in this game is concerned it’s roughly the same as in the first, with a few fun additions.
The most noticeable, and quickly found is the reaction command, used with Triangle when certain conditions with enemies is met.
These conditions, and what actually happens when you hit triangle changes whit different enemies and bosses.
The second, and most drastic new addition is the Drive gauge, and form, though this element of gameplay doesn’t come in until later on, after becoming Sora.
This element of the game also evolves.
You get different forms as time progresses.
Also, this game has a lot more skills to use, leaving with a larger variety of gameplay, making it feel far less hack and slash.
This also makes it more useful for having skill, than in the prior game.
THE VERY BASIC JIST OF EVERY FINAL FANTASY GAME (EVER!)
Final Fantasy games, while in story and exact character is different in every game there is one big noticeable underlying plot for each game.
Something very dangerous is threatening the ENTIRE population of the world, and in one way or another, you, as the protagonist set out to stop it.
Along the way you will meet various like minded people who conveniently use a different kind of weapon from you, and oddly enough from everyone else you meet.
You will meet a theif, a Swordsman, A person with some kind of range, A white mage with summoning capabilities, and a Black mage.
You almost always play something of a powered up Red mage.
Kinda odd, how ironic huh?
In any case Early games had something of a Zelda like world, until the concept of the world map was introduced.
Then, we were presented with open areas, like in FFX. We no longer traversed the world map either, we flew on an Airship to where we wanted to go, and this method of transportation is still present even in the most recent FFXII.
(The world of FFXI is completely open, you can only access Airships from 4 areas total {not counting Kazham?})
The combat system was, young, until FFX-2.
You would enter a random battle from traveling in an area outside of towns or city’s(Peace zones). Such as a field, forest or dessert (Battle zones).
Once in an actual battle you would stand parallel from your enemy and take turns executing various commands all of which could be found in your menu.
This would continue until one of your Hp reached 0.
Your own, and you’d get a Game over and have to continue from you last save.
The enemies and you’d be presented with an award page, in which you would find yourself being utterly confused that the ridiculously over sized rabbit creature you just killed was carrying chain mail, a fire enchanted sword, and 82 gil.
Whats a rabbit doing with these things, honestly no one knows.
In FFX-2, we see the frst variation in the battle system. Though still turn based it’s now Real Time. Based on which weapon your using(The dress sphere let you change the job of any of your characters.)
You would have a gauge that would have to re-charge after each time you attack or use a spell. The time it took to re-charge changed depending on your weapon, and/or skill you used.
FFXI introduced the first entirely real Time battle system, and also got rid of random battles. Also allowing you to control your characters movement while in battle.
FXII Improved, but keeps the same essential battle system FFXI has.
FFX-2 is the very first “True sequel” in the franchise.
–comparing and contrasting the two games.–
Now, it’s obvious that FF, and KH are two very different games, but they do share a few very important things.
Number one being that the KH series is a joint effort between Square Enix and Disney, resulting in some of FF’s most memorable characters having and appearance, or own story line, and position in the game.
As far as actual Game play similarities go, there are none.
KH and FF are completely different games, and really shouldn’t be lumped in together in one pile.
KH, is very different from FF in one element.
This is very important so pay attention.
KH is several small stories, to tell one.
FF is several small stories, to each their own.
While it if true the FF gives you new characters to run with in each games that is because each story is not related to each other. They don’t share the same planet, the same worlds, characters, plotlines, themes.
The only thing they do share is a like universe, and the title Final fantasy.
Kingdom hearts on the other hand is a single, deep story with many side storys to be told, that all relate to one main story line. Every time you witness a different or new story you can take that, fit it somewhere chronologically with the main story, and see how it relates.
CONCLUSION…
This, is why (It’s racking our bodies with pain, and filling our hearts with doubt!)(Sorry, had to say it.. Bonus points if you know why I said it)
We are not done with Sora, but this is also why it’s safe for him to not be in a certain game.
This is all one story line, which guarantee’s Sora’s place within it, but at the same time a different part of the story needs to be told, so that we can understand new parts.
If something comes out, and we aren’t Sora, then thats fine, because we’re not done with him, we’re just learning something new.
Rest assured hat no matter what happens, and who’s shoes the game puts us in, we’re still playing the same story line as we were, and will not ever be at a loss for a familiar face.
Thanks to KingdomHearts3.net reader Kahou for this submission!



on 04 Apr 2008 at 8:09 pm 59. LALALA
i think both games are cool, but i’m a bigger fan of final fantasty. it was clever how kingdom hearts puts famous ff characters in their game, but that shows no originality. think about it: kingdom hearts would be nothing if it didn’t have sepheroth, cloud,auron etc. all it would be is a bunch of lame disney characters running around. not saying i don’t like the game, but they owe most of their coolness to final fantasty
on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:54 am 58. Keyblade Master
Okay…Get King Mickey too!
on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:53 am 57. Keyblade Master
Larxene, Ashen, Kase, let’s take on Arron, EG Sora[who is still arron], and Supa Man in a Keyblade War! KH fans have no need for swearing!
on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:49 am 56. Keyblade Master
Arron…There’s no need to curse…Or shall we settle this with a keyblade duel?
on 18 Dec 2007 at 11:54 pm 55. Arron
`sorry but out of the blue hear FF 1 sold over 1 million copys mand kh 1 and 2 have not sold 1 million but i do ,belive that the new kh3 will sell WELL over 1 million…i was playing kh1 theni compleated it so then i wanted the 2ed on ethen i got that and compleated it so now my BIGGEST THING TO HIT ME was the find out that their was gunna b a kh3 with all new chars and all the old ones too and a lot more ff chars to so as Energetic Sora (Terra Roxas) was saying thay will all come togather on the New kh3 ..(it will b out on ps2 ps3 and wii…fuk you x-box HAHAH)…just droping in
@RrOn
on 26 Nov 2007 at 12:32 pm 54. cham1259
I have to admit, at first I really didn’t like the idea of KH(what was so appealing about summoning a cartoon flying elephant?…What a great introduction for the game{my brother told me that FIRST})…Until, of course, I tried it for myself.
Then BOOM! After KH I was already an addicted KH fan. Now I’m really looking forward to other KH games, esecially 358/2 days(such a mouthful) for my DS!!!
on 27 Oct 2007 at 9:35 pm 53. Energetic Sora (Terra Roxas)
I think that your all F***in stuped becuase there equal Notice That the Beginning characters in KH1 on the Isand are the same as the Characters in FF sieries exept younger Witch means there going to combine sooner or Later
on 27 Oct 2007 at 5:31 pm 52. Diego Gonzalez-keyblade master
I think we all agree that, someday KH will be better than FF. KH is already so big and at this rate it’ll be bigger and more popular. So for all those people who believe this say so.
on 20 Sep 2007 at 5:23 pm 51. takayu
ack!
my comment got cuttedted!
on 20 Sep 2007 at 5:21 pm 50. takayu
>_
on 20 Sep 2007 at 9:27 am 49. supa man
for those people who like a ff alot ur on the wrong site get the f*ck out of here
on 19 Sep 2007 at 11:27 pm 48. King Mickey
Ok here’s my opinion:
I think Kingdom Hearts is probably the most surprising game ever made. Disney + Square = What the hell?? Its storyline is also very unique, what with the keyblade and all. In a way it is better then FF because it IS final fantasy, you even have some FF plots going on in it, ex. Cloud, Auron (this is my story, and YOU’RE NOT PART OF IT). While FF also has good stories, it can’t be better then KH because of how unique it is. So KH wins in story.
Now for the battle system. The KH battle system sucks. There is WAY too much buttonmashing. I know, I know there’s magic, but what’s the point in using it 90% of the time other then to heal. It just gets repetitive, especially KH2 since it is so frikin easy and Sora is like a god with all his super sayan evolved form steroid attacks. At least the first one was a challenging buttonmasher. CoM had probably the best battle system, since there was, you know strategy involved. FF has a great system, the materia in 7, the spere grid in 10, so many choices… until 12 ruined it. I hate that battle system SO MUCH! Pick action or timebased, not both. So FF wins in battle system.
As far as the rest of gameplay goes, they are about even. FF has a lot more places to explore and things to find, but how can you compete with the gummi ship?
In conclusion, fix the dam battle system and KH will be better.
on 16 Sep 2007 at 7:09 am 47. Larxene
im going 2 start a collection of kh soon.Actually, im stating it!!!!!!!!
on 16 Sep 2007 at 7:08 am 46. Larxene
KH IS JUST SOOOOOOOO COOL!!!! sorry…but i just like it a lot!!!(SMILES)
on 16 Sep 2007 at 7:06 am 45. Larxene
kAZE…u know,u talk a LOT!!!!!!!
on 16 Sep 2007 at 7:04 am 44. Larxene
FF is cool.My fav one iz FF 12!!! so,my fave game iznt just kh,its FF 12…lol
on 16 Sep 2007 at 7:02 am 43. Larxene
i like kh….its my fav game…lol (i like the number 2 better!)lol…ok?
on 12 Sep 2007 at 12:35 am 42. Vivi
i think kindgom hearts has sort of locked itself with sora, alot of fans who dont really get it will be upset if sora suddenly leaves the series, i love both of the games but reading through the comments realised that ff is sort of repetitive, i like ff better though, i love all the characters in it and i dont really mind that it is repetitive as long as they keep making good characters, i cant compare these games though. i like them both, roxas was my favourite in kh and Vivi or zidane in FF
on 08 Sep 2007 at 10:26 am 41. Ashen Lionheart
If you don’t want to read, you’re on the wrong site. This thing is all about talking about Kingdom Hearts.
on 04 Sep 2007 at 2:15 am 40. onocbnxchg
u people talk to much
i mean jezzz
theres way 2 much 2 read
on 04 Sep 2007 at 2:07 am 39. Ashen Lionheart
FF VII was definately a peak. But it wasn’t followed by a steady decline. The FF’s before and after VII were, in my opinion, about the same. FF VII was just a particularly good installment (and should, in my opinion, be updated to PS3 graphics someday, because then I might actually finish it). As for Kingdom Hearts, there was definately a greater story being told in each world in the second game, more so if I recall than in the first. The Nobodies and Pete (would’ve been better off as Rasputin from Anastasia, I think) were constantly interfering, breaking down walls, ecspecially in the second half of the game.
And the reason Kingdom Hearts has philosophical value is because the whole story isn’t told in one game. In every FF the story is told and finished in one game, all mysteries are solved. The world might be interesting or not, but it doesn’t matter because now it’s history (Unless you count the bane of FF’s existence, FF X-2, the programmers of which probably intentionally sabotaged so as to make sure fans never, EVER demanded a true sequel again). That philosophical value brought about by a living world, as well as the theoretical value brought about by the living characters within it, are why I prefer Kingdom Hearts. Well, that and because I’ve been with Kingdom Hearts since the beginning, whereas I picked up the thread of FF at VII (or VIII, if you go by which games I actually got decently close to beating).
on 03 Sep 2007 at 3:27 pm 38. Kaze
There is some room for arugement here, about the dominance of FF and/or KH as “best story”.
Each FF game has had it’s own plot and little side stories which may some time link to the main storyline, or sometimes not. On this note, every story in an FF game has its significance, either retelling the story of one character, or the story of a country, a nation, maybe even a world. What was said about it having one cynical storyline is true: The gist of every FF is that you play a character that has the weight of the world placed on his shoulder, and will meet like-minded people along his journey that will accompany him towards the very end. This has not changed over the years of FF production (though the storyline becomes more involved with the characters than the saving the world). In fact, this is one of the pillars which make FF, FF. If not for the fact that we have this basic principle for the storyline, I may not even know it’s an FF title. Also, the battle system has adapted a traditional RPG system, where it is turn based to attack the enemy. Still, throughout all the years of FF, the battle system has been tweaked here and there, giving players a new feel and a new feature to play with, while many others barely give the fundementals of this system.
Now moving on the KH. While KH may have an “inter-connected” story, it also has the feature of having many side stories within the canon story itself. In my opinion, the statement that “all little stories are told to tell the one big main story” only holds true for the first installment. If I have ever seen “out of whack” from any main storyline, it is when I played KH II. Yet in the way that all KH stories in KH I interconnect, does not vary very far from the traditional story telling of FF. Does it not feel abit cynical as well? Playing the role of a “chosen one” bestowed special power to save the world (in this case, all worlds)? In essence, KH’s storyline is no more the inspiring than any FF I have played, save for the introduction of the Keyblade and its past.
I will admit that KH’s battle system is one of the most unique that I have ever seen. It is true, and I believe this will be the KH trademark throughout all games. It definitely beats the FF battle system by a long run.
Which of the two is better is entirely up to personal preference. I would go with KH, due to the innovating theory of its keyblade, nobodies, and all the promise I see in KH III. If not for this one thing that gives it such philosophical value, I would say they are on standard with FF.
STILL, both games suffer the SAME disease: Recline in quality with the addition to the series. I am sure MANY will agree with me FF hit its peak at FF7; and any that is properly equiped to make judgement can tell that the emotional quality of KH I is far superior to that of KH II. It only remains to be seen how long will these game designers take to either rise from the pit, or bury themselves in it.
-H.K.T.S.
on 01 Sep 2007 at 1:17 pm 37. Sam
You’re terribly biased and REALLY don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to Final Fantasy. FFX-2’s battle system Real-Time Active Battle was first introduced in FFIV, yes, that’s like a million years ago, so don’t go saying that FFX-2 was the first time they put in somethnig new, because you’re completely wrong. KH is a fun game but the storylines in FF are very complex and interesting and KH’s storyline can not even compare. Also the Disney things are starting to look EXTREMELY out of place, and it’s getting ridiculous. The final mix ending where Mickey Mouse shows up at the end.. That’s freaking lame I’m sorry. You see this epic, realistic battle that’s beautiful and emotional, and then you see Mickey Mouse.. Buzz kill.
on 31 Aug 2007 at 1:18 am 36. rabi
final fantasy is one of the greatest legacies but kingdom hearts digs deep on a youths emotions and imaginations. therefore i will forever fiend kh!!!!
on 30 Aug 2007 at 12:46 pm 35. s3phiroth
in my opinion FF is betta than kingdom hearts because FF is the very lifeline of the KH series, put it this way, half the KH world is FF chars and so on so without the FF chars init it would be 1 very crap disney-based game that only gays would buy. Dont get me wrong though i still worship kingdom hearts and love it
on 28 Aug 2007 at 8:48 am 34. Roxas Thraxelon
OK.
I’m not that great a fan of FF, but I DO LIKE IT.
It’s just that…well…I like Kingdom Hearts MORE.
If not for the great plot, amazing places, astounding characters, Roxas, Oblivion, and Oathkeeper, maybe Kingdom Hearts II has no impact in my heart.
But, the fact is, IT HAS.
- Roxas
on 22 Aug 2007 at 5:24 pm 33. Tazimus Prime
I like Kingdom Hearts and all, but to say it is one of the top two greatest strories is pushing it. It’s good story, but I wouldn’t say it is one of the greatest.
on 22 Aug 2007 at 12:50 pm 32. Hustle
Alright. I love the FF series and I love the KH series but being unbiased since I adore both of these game series KH is definatly the better of the two because of the fact that it is one storyline with many different side stories. FF never gets old but if ya look at it with your eyes squinting and your head tilted to the left a little it has a small resemblance to grand theft auto series except without the gayness. Just my opinion though. To each their own. If anything at least most will agree that Kingdom Hearts has to be in the top 2 of greatest stories… ever. the end.
on 21 Aug 2007 at 2:12 pm 31. Kuhn
Sure wa machigatteru omou naa.. FF is one of the best sold game ever, well KH is good and all but people makes the decision what game is better so for me KH is better than FF because, KH has the FF chars too. “LOL”
well if though I love FF and KH