Tazimus Prime on 10 Jul 2007 12:37 am
The Future of Kingdom Hearts
This section has to deal with past information that might affect the next game.
The night Sora received the keyblade it was stated by Nomura that was not suppose to receive it, but that it was suppose to be Riku’s. This is also backed in the game with Jiminy’s Journal. If you were to look under Riku in it it says that Riku is the True Keyblade master. Now this is not to say that Sora would not have recieved, but merely to say that at that time he wasn’t suppose to receive it. The reason why Sora did receive it, stated by Nomura, is because at the time Riku had already given himself over to the darkness. Now your probably asking yourself “what does this have to do with Kingdom Hearts 3 or the new series?” Let me answer that for you. In Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix+ you can battle the tallest knight Terra. Just before the battle he shares some dialog with you.
“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
Here you learn the name of the other two knights and that Terra chose somebody for something. Now this could possibly mean that Terra chose Riku to originally to receive the Kingdom Key. My guess is that the fact that Riku was suppose to originally receive the keyblade is going to have something to do with Kingdom Hearts 3.
It is also worthy to the Nobody Xigbar. Because from him you learn an interesting fact. Just before the Sora’s boss fight with Xigbar he says to Sora “That out of all the ones before you, you are the weakest.” Now from this dialog we learn that Xigbar has fought other Keyblade Wielders before. This to has been confirmed by Nomura. Now when using the term weakest Xigbar means that Sora is novice when using a Keyblade. We can see this when we fight Terra. But right now this is a kind of moot point. The point of this entire conversation is that we learn that A) there are other keyblade wielders and B) that Xigbar not only fought them but defeated them as well. So the question remains, who were these other keyblade wielders. Now from the secret videos we learn that there are in fact four or five other keyblade wielders. First there are the three Knights Terra, Aqua, and Ven and the Bald Guy and the Dark Knight (the reason I say four is because it is yet unknown if the Dark Knight is a separate entity or just the heartless/nobody form of the Bald Guy). Now Xigbar could be referring to one or more of these wielders. I should also note that in a scene from Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix + we see Aqua’s armor and Keyblade.
Now this section has to deal with the new series.
Now Nomura has stated that the Kingdom Hearts game to come out will be part of a new series. In the Another reports he mentions that there are four missing adventures to the Kingdom Hearts series. Mickey’s time in the Dark Realm seeking: Kingdom Key: Dark Side, Riku’s adventures in between Chain of Memories, Roxas adventure with the Organization, and Xehanort’s Past. Now it was hinted at the next game would be about Xehanort’s past. You can come to reasonable conclusion from the Birth by Sleep video that you will probably be playing with Mickey and that this game is set in the past. Also the case of the videos comes into question here. The first video that you get at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 shows a section of an Ansem report having to deal with the keyblade. Then shows Terra standing on the dragon that Xehanort road on. He then looks around two reveal Aqua and Ven. He jumps off the dragon and the dragon disappears and they walk to Sora’s, Riku’s, and Mickey’s keyblades and they pick them up. Then they look into the distance to reveal that a fourth figure is approaching. Then the words Master of Keyblades, the Lost Two, Memory of Xehanort, Chasers, and Keyblade War. Then it says “It all began with…Birth by Sleep.” Now this shows that the Birth by Sleep video happened before the first video. I believe that the first video is in fact meant to be a preview for the Kingdom Hearts 3 game. Now the second video depicts the Knights fighting a Bald Man and a Dark Knight both who wield keyblades. I believe this is meant to be a preview for the in the new series. The first game will probably revolve around Xehanort’s past (aka Memories of Xehanort) and the origins of the keyblade. You will probably playing as Mickey in this one. This will some how tie into Kingdom Hearts 3, much like Sub - Zero and Mortal Kombat 4.
This section has to deal with the Lost Two.
Now we were given a interesting piece text that gives a little insight in to who the Lost Two are and about who Terra is. This piece of text is
“Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.”
“Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.”
Now this is interesting because Terra expresses much hatred for Xehanort after you fight him and in the text before battle if you choose to battle him again. You can reasonably assume that Terra and Xehanort use to be allies and that Xehanort was a good guy. Now someone on here referenced Xehanort to also mean thunder in latin if you rearrange the letters in his name with out the X in it. Now I wouldn’t have used the Power Ranger to connect this, but I have come to find that there is truth in what this person said. By rearranging the letters to form the word thonare, the more common spelling of the word in tonare. Nomura has stated that Xehanort’s becomes Another and No Heart when the X is removed. The point id that we can assume that Xehanort was a good guy a one time, but for whatever reason turned his back on the light and became a bad guy. Now the connection to the Lost Two comes from the second piece of text in which it says that Terra is not awakened and that he is connected to two people. Now the only people we have seen him with are Aqua and Ven. Another interesting piece of information is that you can only fight Terra after you have beat the game. At least ever single guide I have read about the has said that. Anyways, now Aqua and Ven are not present in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix + because, are alluded two just before the fight with Terra, and we see Aqua’s armor and keyblade in the Room of Sleep. So is safe to assume that the Lost Two are Aqua and Ven.
This section has to deal with the Keyblade War.
Now Nomura has stated that Keyblade War was a way for him to tell us that there were fights between Keyblade Wielders. Also in the Ansem report in the beginning of the Gathering video it states that the Keyblade saved the world and that it wrought chaos upon the world. So it is safe to assume that these legends refer to the Keyblade War. This war was probably waged across the different worlds. Which is why the walls separating them were put up. We are led to believe that passage was possible between worlds do to Kiari’s grandmother’s story. Now Nomura has stated that this story is for the most part a child’s bedtime story, but he also mentioned that there is a small fraction of history in it. The Keyblade War would also explain the conflicting legends across the worlds about the keyblade it’s self. Now as for the Master of Keyblades.
Thanks to KingdomHearts3.net reader Tazimus Prime for this submission!
on 28 Jul 2007 at 9:13 pm 101. Rai
i got a theory based on terra and xehanorts connection.
i got this picture in my head of terra and xehanort once being friends, but then xehanort was corrupted by darkness and out of that did something terrible (a MAJOR hole in my theory, i know) leading to terra hating him. terra would then confront and fight xehanort, and winning the fight, he banished xehanort to another world/time. more exact, to the time when ansem found him and took him under his wings.
i REALLY want taz’s reply on this, so please comment
on 29 Jul 2007 at 7:33 pm 102. rob livingstone
this is my theory for kh3:
when a heart stoops to darkness, a heartless is formed, when this happens, the body and soul become a nobody. In kh1, Kairis love of Sora returned his heart after having been turned into a heartless. This has never been deeply explained. If heartless can be returned to normal-why do they do not? why do they stay a heartless? The hearts themselves go to kingdom hearts. So why do Hearts fear the keyblade? Ansems report says all that is gone from existence through the keyblade(the dead heartless) will return to the light (kingdom hearts). So why does the heartless not meet its heart in kingdom hearts and become human. Is there some divine being within kingdom hearts that can somehow intervene with this process. Perhaps this being considers itself a god
of sorts. I think the man in the distance of the birth by sleep trailer is the being which controls a hearts passage to its body. Maybe the heartless do this beings bidding in the hope that it will allow its passage back to its body. Maybe the heartless fear the keyblade because this being uses it to prevent the passage from heart to body. I know this is complicated but does anyone agree with me?
on 29 Jul 2007 at 7:44 pm 103. #1 DinestyX
nice theary but I think Kiri could do that cuz she is a princess of light
on 29 Jul 2007 at 11:16 pm 104. sam
hey guys, this is sams friend. sorry about calling you guys jerks, that was out of line. i would just like to say that i really do enjoy your point of views. but is still stand by my theory about kh3.
on 30 Jul 2007 at 7:22 am 105. Tazimus Prime
Rai: Well Rai your theory is actually quite. Now there is alot we don’t know about the relationship between Terra and Xehanort, all we really know is that they know each other and are connected. Now I’m working on a theory that states Xehanort and Terra are brothers, but I only have very slim evidence to support it. So it wont be seen around here for awhile. As for the hole in the theory, well since we don’t much you filled in the best you could, so we are just gonna have to wait and see.
rob livingstone: Well Rob your whole theory reminds of something a theory I made once. I called it the goddess of fate theory, in the end however I determined it be false. Now I’m gonna have to agree in a way with #1 DinestyX here about why Sora returned to normal when being a heartless. Now Nomura has talked about heartless and Nobodies returning to normal. He said that when a heartless is destroyed the heart goes to Kingdom Hearts and waits for its corrisponding nobody to be destroyed. So basically a being generally doesn’t return to normal unless his nobody and heartless are destroyed. Sora however was a special case. That is why it doesn’t happen. Seeing has how Kairi is a Princess of Heart that probably had something to do with it, along with the fact that she loves him.
on 30 Jul 2007 at 3:43 pm 106. Beanie
Heres something to think about
Why are some heatless more powerful then others? Same goes for the Nobodies, some are mindless machines whilst others take human form and (Xehanort) can pose a threat to humanity
Its to do with the hearts they once had, and personally thats why i believe that Sora will never turn to darkness because his heart is the keyblade’s heart the strongest of all.
on 30 Jul 2007 at 7:37 pm 107. Tazimus Prime
Beanie: With the Nobodies it is true that when one had a strong heart that it takes the form of a human. But heartless are a different story. Xehanort creates certain heartless infact all heartless with his symbol on them were created by him, emblem heartless. That basically leaves only four types of heartless that were not created using that machine, the Shadow, Neo Shadow, Dark Balls, and Dark Sides. Now how heartless decide to take which form we don’t know. If it was heart then Sora wouldn’t have became a simple shadow heartless now would he. Maybe heartless grow stronger the longer they are a heartless. As for why Nobodies and heartless pose a threat it is because they are beings born from darkness, it is as simple as that. Now we have covered why certain Nobodies take human form and have a mind of their own, but why did Sora’s and Xehanort’s heartless have minds of there own. Well to simply put it, it is because when they became heartless they chose to become them. Unlike all others Xehanort chose to become a heartless to travel to other worlds, while chose to become one to give Kairi her heart. That is why Xehanort and Sora still had there own minds when they were heartless.
on 30 Jul 2007 at 11:59 pm 108. Wiseguy21
All of this brings many things to light, kudos to Tazimus Prime, Beanie, Rob, and the others. A question I still have is why Xemnes (Xehanort’s Heartless) kept his own human form and was able to control all the other heartless and make his own army. We know that he was related to Terra, Aqua, and Ven but at some point he must have been slain by the keyblade and then seperated into his Heartless(Xemnes) and Nobody(Xehanort) forms. Even Sora only retained a human form in his Nobody form (roxas)and was a normal heartless when he was slain.
on 31 Jul 2007 at 12:06 am 109. Wiseguy21
All of this brings many things to light, kudos to Tazimus Prime, Beanie, Rob, and the others. A question I still have is why Xemnes (Xehanort’s Heartless) kept his own human form and was able to control all the other heartless and make his own army. We know that he was related to Terra, Aqua, and Ven but at some point he must have been slain by the keyblade and then seperated into his Heartless(Xemnes) and Nobody(Xehanort) forms. Even Sora only retained a human form in his Nobody form (roxas)and was a normal heartless when he was slain. Why did Sora have a weak heartless? Someone previously mentioned that the longer you are a heartless, the stronger you become, so maybe since sora was a heartless for such a short time period, he did remain weak. This makes the idea of the Keyblade War happening a very long time ago, very believeable, think, if Xehanort was slain and seperated into his Nobody and Heartless forms such a long time ago, this would give time for his Heartless form to grow in strength and power. But wait, wouldn’t that mean he was a Nobody when Ansem took him under his wing???
on 31 Jul 2007 at 5:09 am 110. Tazimus Prime
Wiseguy21: No, Xehanort was not slain with a keyblade to become a heartless and a nobodie. When Xehanort was getting ready to travel the worlds he put himnself through his own heartless creation machine. You learn this in the Ansem Reports in Kingdom Hearts 1. By choosing to become a heartless it allowed him to keep his own individuallity. Now Xehanort’s heartless was a emblem heartless, that is part of the reason he was different from a normal heartless. Now Xehanort was whole when he was found Ansem the Wise, not a Nobodie or Heartless.
on 04 Aug 2007 at 1:28 pm 111. Tazimus Prime
Concerning Roxas and Namine.
Now alot of people are under the specualtion that Roxas had a heart. This is in fact false. Roxas did not have a heart. Although he was unquie for a Nobody, he could wield keyblades and simulated feelings, he didn’t have a heart. Now as we know in Kingdom Hearts 1 Sora used a keyblade to unlock his heart to release Kairi’s heart and became a heartless. At this point in time a Nobody was born, but it wasn’t Roxas. In Scret Ansem Report # 12 we learn that Namine was created from Sora’s sacrifice. This is due to the fact that Kairi is a Princess of Heart, and therefore has no darkness in her heart. So for body and her remained in tact and couldn’t be absorbed by darkness. Now Roxas came into being when Kairi turned Sora’s heartless back into human, we learn this in the same Ansem report. Roxas used the remains of Sora’s heartless as a medium to create himself. In essense Roxas was created from Sora’s heart. This supported by the fact that he could wield keyblades, which requires a strong heart to wield. Due to the fact that he was created from Sora’s heart he could simulate feelings. This would also help explain why he didn’t have Sora’s memories. Where a normal Nobody is created from the body and soul, Roxas was created from the remains of a heartless. Therefore he really wouldn’t have Sora’s memories.
on 06 Aug 2007 at 5:42 am 112. Conor
any1 notice that yen sid is disney backwards. Not saying that’s important or anything just throwin it out there.
on 06 Aug 2007 at 8:41 pm 113. Tazimus Prime
Yes it has been noticed.
on 08 Aug 2007 at 3:58 pm 114. mike2
maybe riku the only the can kill xehanort
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:00 pm 115. Tazimus Prime
There is no evidence to support that Xehanort is even still alive after Kingdom Hearts 2.
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:06 pm 116. mike2
if the keyblade war is set in the future then maybe terrahas a member of organization XIII and terra passes on to the good side and xehanort doesn’t want and betrays terra
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:08 pm 117. mike2
if the keyblade war is set in the future then maybe terra was a member of organization XIII and terra passes on to the good side and xehanort doesn’t want to and betrays terra
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:14 pm 118. mike2
you’re right but listen to this “birth by sleep” rigth? it maybe means that xehanort was frozen in the end of kh2 or maybe that he fellow asleep in the room of sleep and was awken not in the room of awkening but, in the room of sleep years later and for unknowed resons he starts the keyblade war
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:14 pm 119. mike2
you’re right but listen to this “birth by sleep” rigth? it maybe means that xehanort was frozen in the end of kh2 or maybe that he fellow asleep in the room of sleep and was aweken not in the room of awkening but, in the room of sleep years later and for unknowed reasons he starts the keyblade war
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:15 pm 120. mike2
you’re right but listen to this “birth by sleep” rigth? it maybe means that xehanort was frozen in the end of kh2 or maybe that he fellow asleep in the room of sleep and was aweken not in the room of awekening but, in the room of sleep years later and for unknowed reasons he starts the keyblade war
on 08 Aug 2007 at 4:32 pm 121. mike2
tazimus prime why does sora has a special case (concerning is returnal to his normal form while being a heartless)?
on 08 Aug 2007 at 7:12 pm 122. Tazimus Prime
mike2: First of “Birth by Sleep” is the name of the secret video at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. Secondly, Xemnas (Xehanorts Nobody) was destroyed at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2. Thirdly, Ansem, seeker of Darkness,(Xehanort’s Heartless) was probably expelled from Riku’s heart in destroyed when the machine exploded in Kingdom Hearts 2. So Xehanort didn’t fall asleep anywhere or anything like that. Fourthly, the Keyblade War has already happened. If you watch a video from Kingdom Hearts Final Mix + you learn that Xehanort was found in Radiant Garden after the War. Fifth, Terra is a completely new character and not a memeber of Organization XIII. The organization was only comprised of those 13 members, Nomura has confirmed this. Now as for Sora returned to his human form when he was turned into a heartless. See a normal persons hearts are comprised of both darkness and light. When one loses there heart it is swallowed by the darkness and it turns into a heartless. Now this does not apply to Kairi because she is a Princess of Heart and her heart only contains light. Now because of this when Kairi lost her heart, her heart, body, or soul could not fade into darkness. Instead her heart went into the nearest body which happened to be Sora’s. Now when Sora unlocked his hearts to set Kairi’s heart free his turned into a heartless and his body and soul turned into Namine. Because Sora chose to become a heartless he was able to keep his own mind and be an individual, unlike the hive mind of other heartless. Now when Sora came into contact with Kairi she was able to expell the darkness that swallowed his heart and return a body and soul to him because she is a Princess of Heart. Now the remains of his heartless were used as a medium to create Roxas. So Roxas was really a missing part of Sora’s heart. That is why Sora was a special case. Because a normal Nobody is created from a Body and Soul of who they once were. Roxas was created from Sora’s heart, in a manor of speaking.
on 09 Aug 2007 at 9:53 am 123. darkdestiny
After reading this entire article, I’m starting to feel like Sora is somewhat a similar character as Ruuji in ZOIDS: Fuzors, being just a novice right from the beginning.
And I wonder, do we ever have a hint on Aqua and Ven that they are still alive after the battle? How was Xemnas able to get Aqua’s armour and keyblade in the first place? And was Ven able to survive when his entire body got frozen by that Bald Guy?
I can say it is likely that the Dark Knight from the Birth of Sleep is a Nobody of the Bald Guy; or at least it’s safe to depict that.
Anyway, regarding the story of Riku after the Chain of Memories, I believe it is linked to the secret movie in KH, called Another Side, Another Story. It is possible that Riku had been there.
I never knew Sora is a Heartless at one point; so now I know. Since the creator of Kingdom Hearts hinted that there is a connection between Sora and Ven, can it be that Sora’s heart is not complete yet?
All of the above are just my own theories that I want to empty out of my mind after reading this article. There’s still many mysteries surrounding Kingdom Hearts, and I don’t think it will stop at Kingdom Hearts III (the official game) yet.
on 09 Aug 2007 at 11:30 am 124. mike2
is chain of memories before or after the keyblade war?by the way why is the crossroads from the secret ending of kingdom hearts 2 equal from those from rikus ending in chain of memories
on 09 Aug 2007 at 3:35 pm 125. Tazimus Prime
mike2: Chain of Memories happens right after Kingdom Hearts 1, so it happens after the Keyblade War. The crossroads are a medaphor for the choices we have to make, some are dark (bad) and some are light (good) and some are just in between.
on 09 Aug 2007 at 3:46 pm 126. Tazimus Prime
darkdestiny: To answer your questions 1. I believe Ven and Aqua are alive. You see Ven’s eyes move after being frozen ans as how Aqua’a armor and keyblade got into the room of sleep, I really don’t know. I think they are still alive, but they are lost (AKA the Lost Two). 2. Yes it is possible that Riku was int that, in fact he was they one with the blind fold on. Nomura had confirmed it in an interview. That scene took place in The World the Never Was and it tells what happened just before Riku’s fight with Roxas. The fight with Roxas will probably be the last fight for Riku in his game, which according to what we have learned, should probably be the third game in this new series. 3. First of all Nomura hinted that there was a connection between the knights and the current characters, he never gave specifics. To answer your, Sora’s heart is complete.
on 09 Aug 2007 at 4:31 pm 127. Beanie
Does anyone else notice that Ven’s Keyblade shatters as hes frozen and thrown of the mountain?
on 09 Aug 2007 at 11:36 pm 128. Tazimus Prime
Yes I noticed that too.
on 11 Aug 2007 at 7:27 pm 129. salsa king
hey guys i just found out some great info!!!!!!!!!
sorry bout muy english im not from hear. well i waz on my computr an tetsuya nomura said that the main enemy in kh3 will be xheanort and gave some detail on the story hear it is he said that one of the main characters will dye and he hinted that it was someone connected to xheanort. Riku! it has to be and that will suk if he dies. but if u want anymore info respond asap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 13 Aug 2007 at 6:06 pm 130. Tazimus Prime
And where did you get this information?
on 16 Aug 2007 at 5:37 am 131. darkdestiny
To Tazimus Prime:
Yes, thank you for your answers to my questions about the KH series. I never got to play the game, but I did get to see certain portions of it, including all secret endings.
Both Aqua and Ven’s status in the Kingdom Heart series is still unknown. Yes, I did see the second secret trailer, and noticed very clearly that Ven’s eyes are moving. But as for Aqua’s equipment, I don’t really know either.
And yes, your next answer confirms my suspicion that Riku had fought Roxas during the time of KH2. Riku did claim that he fought Roxas at one point in KH2, and when he transformed back into his own self, he WAS wearing a black blindfold, which he took off.
I think there’s a chance that the 2 secret endings that we see in KHII and KHIIMix+ are not the real endings of the upcoming movie. We may get to know more about the 3 new characters AFTER the secret ending scenes. But one thing’s for sure, I doubt Xemhanort WAS even at the place. Look at the difference in the skin colour of the bald man and Xemhanort and you’ll get what I mean.
To salsaking:
I don’t know where you got the information either. But if it’s really true that one of the 3 characters will die, then it’s most probably got to be Terra. Those who had played the KHIIMix+ would have noticed that it’s his “soul” that was at the scene. It’s likely that he died before he even fought Sora in that game.
on 16 Aug 2007 at 11:49 pm 132. Tazimus Prime
All you have to do is ask and I’ll answer any question to the best of my possibility.
on 20 Aug 2007 at 6:44 pm 133. kyuubi
I agree with tazimus pride’s theorie of the lost two…it actually makes sence, just like many sayngs about for eg. xehanort - another…it may actually be true, that in the next game there will be a new enemy, and i think that those soldiers are related to sora and cº because they are the other part, the so called ” another “.
theres only 1 thing i dont get…why or how did kairi get her nobody free? i dont understand it, because she never got to be a heartless…
on 21 Aug 2007 at 5:53 am 134. Tazimus Prime
Namine was born from Sora’s body and soul when he unlock Kairi’s heart from his body. Roxas was born later from Sora’s heartless when Kairi returned him to human form. It’s in the Secret Ansem Reports.
on 21 Aug 2007 at 10:05 am 135. kyuubi
thanks…i didnt check it if it was there because my PS is broken beyond repair, so i couldnt do it
But i thought of something….maybe the secret movie isnt xehanort at all and maybe riku is related to him, if not the real one, not the one who went to radiant garden, that lost is memories.
I had a good theorie, but i stupidily forgot it, if i recall i will put here, so you can tell me what do you think…
on 21 Aug 2007 at 10:06 am 136. kyuubi
thanks…i didnt check it if it was there because my PS is broken beyond repair, so i couldnt do it
But i thought of something….maybe the bald guy in the secret movie isnt xehanort at all, maybe Terra is is nobody or heartless or another and maybe riku is related to him, if not the real one, not the one who went to radiant garden, that lost is memories.
I had a good theorie, but i stupidily forgot it, if i recall i will put here, so you can tell me what do you think…
on 24 Aug 2007 at 8:47 pm 137. sam
F U Tazimus Ill have my vengence Bi**h and ul be sorry u…. Tazimus NERD!
We have resources you couldn’t dream of, so just stop acting like you know things you don’t understand! Those things we wrote are facts, so study them well noobs! By the way, since there is no realistic info on this site, consider this our final entry.
Sincerly
King Mickeys humble servants
on 25 Aug 2007 at 5:07 am 138. Jax
When I was reading above, it talked about how in the past Xehanort was a good guy when you remove the X. Well, Roxas is Sora when you remove the X. Just thinkin out loud…
on 27 Aug 2007 at 8:07 am 139. Tazimus Prime
Jax: the removed forms Another and No Heart. It doesn’t form a name. I need to talk someone to get my article updated here.
sam: I’m glad you’re gone. I will not miss you sense all you did was call people noobs. SO see ya later noob.
on 28 Aug 2007 at 8:42 am 140. darkdestiny
Kingdom Hearts 3, as stated by the director himself, will be more of a series, which sounds quite a bit like Final Fantasy VII. I wouldn’t want to assume things, but a lot of work will be done in Kingdom Hearts in terms of covering the events that are not told in the previous games of KH.
As for the Keyblade War, it can be assumed that it did occur in the past, and wreaked havoc in the worlds and thus led to the events of the original Kingdom Hearts. And the event of “Birth by Sleep” occurred when King Mickey goes missing.
As for the argument that I had in the other editorial page, I did assume that Xemhanort is not involved in the events of Birth by Sleep. Other than appearance differences, my stand is that, the bald guy is someone of higher ground/level than Organization XIII from the darkness, and is able to create Kingdom Hearts to a way better extent than even Xemnas himself.
I’m not certain if Xemhanort was ever in contact with Ven, Terra and Aqua. But I think one can assume that to a certain extent.
The above are just my hypothesis, and they may not neccessarily be true.
on 28 Aug 2007 at 8:46 am 141. darkdestiny
Talking about Xemhanort, have he actually appeared in the Kingdom Hearts series at all? As I read from Wikipedia’s details about the character, only King Mickey had met the real Xemhanort, while Xemnas a.k.a. Ansem had been the one fighting against Sora and Riku all the time from KH.
on 29 Aug 2007 at 6:08 am 142. Tazimus Prime
darkdestiny: Xehanort himself has appeared in the series once in Kingdom Hearts 2. There is a flash back with him in it. It shows has he was before he he ousted Ansem the Wise and took his identity.
on 29 Aug 2007 at 6:35 am 143. darkdestiny
Yeah, I understand. But in the storyline, I’m absolutely sure he wasn’t involved in the entire Kingdom Hearts series. Perhaps his role will be a lot more crucial in the next part of the series.
on 29 Aug 2007 at 6:39 am 144. darkdestiny
I think it’s already revealed in the battle between Roxas and Riku about the latter’s change in form, taking into account that the short clip from KH, Another Side, Another Story. Or am I too slow to notice that?
on 30 Aug 2007 at 11:30 pm 145. Tazimus Prime
darkdestiny: Actually Xehanort has been the main villian in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. Just two different forms of him, Ansem (his heartless) and Xemnas (his nobody). He has been involved in the series since the begining. Also Riku’s change in form is because he used the power of darkness in his heart. It was mentioned in Kingdom Hearts 2 and shown in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix.
on 03 Sep 2007 at 4:47 pm 146. ViVi
taz, i heard a few people keep saying thatbirth by sleep came last. this isnt true. i dont even know why they believe it but it makes a lot more sense seeing how the scene changes in the second trailer. and if it did come last then the crossroads wouldnt be there. plus mickey go’s to the place with the blue heart so birth by sleep has to be first. but then it makes you wonder when did it happen in birth by sleep and how ven got unfrozen.
on 03 Sep 2007 at 7:45 pm 147. khking
tazi how do you know all this stuff
on 04 Sep 2007 at 8:26 pm 148. Tazimus Prime
ViVi: I think “Birth by Sleep” will have happened before the begining of the new game. The new game in the series is the first in a series of side stories. Xehanort’s past, King Micky’s time in the Dark Realm, The year Riku spent with DiZ, and Roxas’ time with the Organization are just four of the stories in the series. The first two will probably be about Xehanort’s past and King Micky’s time in the Dark Realm and you’ll probably play as King Micky. Naturally the other two games you’ll be playing as Riku and Roxas. If people would just read the interviews, the Ansem reports, and watch the videos they could figure it out for themselves.
khking: Like I said above, I read the interviews, watch the videos, and read the Ansem reports. Playing the games also helps. I also use a good bit of logical reasoning and try not over reach. Before I make all my theories I look for info to support it and info that doesn’t contradict it. So that is my secret.
on 05 Sep 2007 at 4:05 am 149. Zeromus
hey taz, i was wondering how that story of your’s and heartless’ ended? some of the guys on kingdom hearts 2 forum are having trouble with a guy who thinks he is a character from the story.
on 05 Sep 2007 at 4:16 am 150. Black Heart
but i am but not any more let me solve your qustion yes i am real and i have all ways been black heart and not any one else so i know who i am