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on 31 Mar 2007 at 8:37 am 1. Martin Kapusta
KINGDOM HEARTS FOR LIFE!! Damn it’s kinda sad though when that chick dies…=(, she was really hot. Oh and to clear it all up, they are NOT Sora, Kairi, and Riku. =) peace out.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 10:15 am 2. OblivionRiku
WOOT THAT WAS AWESOME…er..then b4. And what do u mean when that “chick” dies, for one thing, shes not a chick. and she doesnt die. HE gets frozen, and as u can see, his eyes were still moving. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK KH3.NET you guys rock
on 31 Mar 2007 at 10:48 am 3. DarkQazpoi
Wait! The keyblades of the armored knight doesnt have KeyChain! So, they arent real!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 11:28 am 4. Riku
Actually, the Keyblades in the first Secret Ending with Keychains completely disappear by the second!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 1:23 pm 5. Ryu
Couple things to say:
1. OblivionRiku’s right, it is a dude.
2. Lol I’m sure you can tell how much I like KH; I didn’t even notice that the keychains were gone! ^_^;;
3. No clue who the girl was, but the frozen guy looked suspiciously like Roxas, and the other guy looked like someone from… Organization XIII I think. My brother agrees with me about “Roxas,” but he thinks the other guy looks like Leon. Anyone else wanna add some theories? We’d love to hear them. ^_______^
on 31 Mar 2007 at 1:42 pm 6. roxas101
if you go to www.khinsider.com it tells you the next game in the seris wont be kingdom hearts 3
on 31 Mar 2007 at 1:53 pm 7. roxas101
“All he can say is that it has to do with Marluxia and it is a very very painful attack.” that is coming from www.khinsider.com and it is from a magizine.but the worst part is Nomura said this. ‘ ‘
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on 31 Mar 2007 at 1:56 pm 8. roxas101
the last sentence in # 7 goes with # six
on 31 Mar 2007 at 2:05 pm 9. Ahn
Was that Roxas who was frozen? The hair looked like his… What about Sora then? I’m confused.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 2:10 pm 10. abby
this goes beyond your imagination of kingdom hearts 3! you wouldn’t belive that ansem the wise probobly goes bad(look for a bald guy, it looks alot like him!!!)it looks quite scary and violent but they always do that!this very LONG CLIP PULLED THINGS TOGETHER!!!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 2:30 pm 11. CrimsonV
If you guys read the comments on the video w/o with real audio, that will help you out. But thanks for the audio, made the video awesome!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 2:37 pm 12. sora's brother
nomura said that the people in the armor are totally new charcters but the one who got frozenm does look like roxas and the girl does kinda look like the girl who would hang out with the boy who roxas did’nt like in the beginning of kh2 named sefier the girl with the purple hair who would say all thes big words and your right there was no chain on the keyblade therefore i’ts not real or maybe nomura forgot and nomura said not yet he knows if he might put sora or riku in to the story and the old man is probally ansem because ansem had that power and in chain of memories he said he will come back when they least know it also ansem has the same outfit and the same eye color and maybe he’s looking for sora and sora is the king and they are trying to get the keyblade but i think it’s a new charcter your’e playing and the note that mickey gave sora he’s telling him to sit this one out and he already saved kari and found riku and defeated the heartless and foun all the doors so i guess i’ts someone else’s story to get revenge and kill the mystery guy. also the guy with the helmet kind of look liked the outfit in kingdom hearts the fist one that riku had on but it was confusing at first but i’ll keep looking on kingdom hearts 3.net to put all the puzzle pieces together to find out this whole mystery
on 31 Mar 2007 at 3:00 pm 13. Zant
well we know that this does not take place in the past and the knights are not Sora Riku and Kairi. The old guy is possibly related to Ansem (kh1 ansem mind you) and the masked guy could be his guardin. This could be an alternite dimension and Mickey found a way in. As for the last knight, i don’t know. just my thoughts
on 31 Mar 2007 at 3:34 pm 14. bug guy
now i dont know what is goin on but from what im guessing is that the short guy and the chick are related to sora and kairi in some way and that the tall guy with the dark hair is related to riku because if u look at his when it zooms in they change to the evil ansem styled eyes, and indeed the armour of the evil knight from riku’s dark form in kingdom hearts 1
on 31 Mar 2007 at 3:44 pm 15. chaser7
this is all very confusing but one thing i know is that mickey did not enter through another demenshin because he is holding a different keyblade instead of the gold one.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 3:48 pm 16. chaser7
my real question is….. why did that guys eyes turn yellow in the end?
on 31 Mar 2007 at 4:40 pm 17. kosakun
I think that one armor dudewho looks like Roxas is Roxas for a couple of reasons. First, he looks like him(obvious) and second, a while back with the secret ending from KH2, Nomura said the knights were not Sora, riku and kairi but were related to Sora in some way.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 5:01 pm 18. Sorax
Could it be that last knight with the brown hair is the grown-up Sora? Anyway, the frozen one is definitely Roxas, I know it for sure.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 5:14 pm 19. riku'scute10
one thing is obovious, the old guy is DiZ and or ansem the wise because ya know how ansem the wise’s eyes are oarnge,so was the old guy’s eyes.plus i can see them in each other’s faces.and the silver haired girl had a mask on for a few seconds and as you can see,i pay attion to the small,non-important things but i am very obserbant!!!if you don’t concetrate on the hair she looks like kairi!!!!looks like also you will have to put up a good fight to beat him!!! and i am guessing it will be at the end!!! check out the other things i wrote,my name on the thing is abby and riku’scute10!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 6:12 pm 20. Galanoth
I have a old theory: the “original” Organization XIII was created for defend all the Worlds. But the old man wants to destroy every world, and his acomplice is Xehanort (maybe he is the heartless of the old man). So, the original Organization XIII try to defeat him, but he was so powerful. the only way to defeat him was stole his memories. After that, the old man lost his powers, and Xehanort (his heartless) forgot who is him, so he travels around the world, confused, when Ansem found it. The old man’s memories? the members of the organization kept them within if so that Xehanort could not find them, but that corrupted its heart, and gave origin to the members that we knew in KH2. why they took the keyblade of sora, riku and kairi? well, because Sora could be the Keyblade Master, and the Organization XIII could be the Chasers, because they try to find Sora and company to give them his Keyblade.
So, that explains: Chasers and Keyblade Master, or Master of Keyblade.
Now, the Lost Two. Xehanort is the heartless of the old man. Here two guys. When the organization XIII stole the old man memories, both (the old man and Xehanort) forget his past. Maybe the Lost Two talks about the memories of the old man and Xehanort.
The Keyblade war. Without a keychain, a keyblade isn’t a keyblade. So, these keyblade aren’t real. At the beginning of the secret ending say this: The keyblade is said to hold phenomenal powers. Later: One legend say its wielder save the world, while another says that he wrought chaos. All of these keyblades maybe aren’t real. But this doesn’t matter. Remember, The Keyblade War. Singular, not plural. It’s a war for one keyblade. For mysterious events, the old man recover his memories, maybe when the hearts of the knights was corrupted he recover his memories. So, with his memories he recovers to his heartless. So, the old man starts to search the “Keyblade”. In KH1, Riku stole the Sora’s keyblade. that means that the keyblade can have two wielders. one that want to save the worlds, other that want to destroy them. That’s the reason why the old man try to find the sora keyblade. This is the Keyblade War, a war to find the Keyblade
on 31 Mar 2007 at 7:14 pm 21. riku'scute10
when it says all of the stuff about memmory of xeanort,it also says ”CHASERS”i thinc chasers are one of the four…1.the the people in the robotish outfit 2.people who are CHASING the keyblade 3.a type of heartless or nobody(or some creature)or 4.the creature the beld guy had next to him!!
on 31 Mar 2007 at 7:22 pm 22. Martin Kapusta
yeah now that i look at it again, the chick is the one with the blue hair lol, i didn’t pay attention to the armor and the facial features cause i was so mesmerized looking at it lol. BUT he is dead, the “old man” stole his heart, and all KH fans know that when that happens a heartless is formed, along with a nobody if the person is strong-willed. That is pretty much death in the world of KH.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 8:27 pm 23. yamikray
i think it would be kinda naiive to even consider the three armoured knights are ff characters. ok so they’re new but one is related to someone we know. well it COULD be roxas couldnt it? i mean its a possability. even though a small one.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 8:34 pm 24. Roxas Gandhi
Now what we are hearing is that the old man is Xehanort, because of his clothing and his eyes strongly resembles the seeker of darkness. remember that the seeker of darkness died in kh 1, Xehanort’s nobody, Xemnas, died in kh 2. this would mean that Xehanort could not have created another nobody during this time or before it because if common sense was mixed with the theory of nobodies is that, Nobodies cannot age. which would mean that Sora could have Created a Nobody because the secret ending is of course in the future. that would explain why one of the knights resembles that of Roxas. Xehanort could have possibly been the old man because possibly Xehanort aged when he was in the Deep sleep state and woke up in radiant garden. And if you looked at one of the cutscenes in kh 2 final mix then you would have seen a part where an org. member sits in a room that also has another person in it. that person could have well been one of the knights in the secret ending. also the org. member says “My Friend” which could well mean that the Org. member was Xemnas. this time around, the story of kh3 could have been like this: there are heartless and nobodies, but what if there was another name, one name that could mean a real person could have made an exact copy of himself before death. the old man could have been the exact copy of Xehanort and the Big armored knight could have been Xehanort’s copy’s nobody. that would explain why he has the yellow eyes and the facial features of Xehanort.
on 31 Mar 2007 at 8:42 pm 25. yamikray
” the old man could have been the exact copy of Xehanort and the Big armored knight could have been Xehanort’s copy’s nobody. that would explain why he has the yellow eyes and the facial features of Xehanort.” would that mean the nobody is a good guy?
on 31 Mar 2007 at 8:57 pm 26. Keziel1
Well, I dunno about you guys but I think that the guy at the end, the one who’s eyes changed? I think he’s Xehanort. When, in KH2, Sora and the gang found the Xehanort picture, his eyes were blue. But, why are his nobody’s eyes orange?? I think that the moon turning into Kingdom Hearts had something to do with it… but that would only explain it if the game took place in the past….. god this is so confusing….
on 31 Mar 2007 at 9:10 pm 27. Galanoth
i have two new theories. but the first is stupid. But well, here is the first theory. Remember the original secret ending of Kingdom Hearts? (not the Final Mix) Well, before the battle of Roxas against Riku, a blue heart appear in the ground, leaving Roxas in the center of the heart, while the clouds are disappearing. Now, if you see the video and stop when the girl are looking the blue heart in the sky, you going to see two things: first, the clouds are moving; second, a black point are in the center of the heart. This is my theory, this fight take place at the same time when take place the fight of Roxas and Riku. Why Mickey are there? Well, this is the funny part. Maybe this “Mickey” is the heartless of the King. Why? Well, I saw his eyes, and its glance is shadier. This theory maybe can explain why the misterious unknown fight with Sora in the game.
Now, my serious theory. this fight take place in the past, when Mickey not yet was king. That is the reason by that not have the Kingdom Key. Why he is the King? Well, for one reason, he stop the Keyblade War. Before that, maybe Mickey is the creator of the original Organization XIII. He defeat the old man and give a part of his memories to his friends (the organization). But the memories was so strong than take control of his hearts. Only Mickey protect his heart and save him. But the other 12 members cant protect his hearts, and turn on the members of the Organization that we kwon in the game. This is the reason for at the beginning only have twelve members. Later appear Roxas and take the empty place. This could be another reason so that Mickey appear like a member of the Organization: to discover why the memories of the old man take control of the hearts of the Original members.
Well, Mickey stop the Keyblade War and turn in a king. But why the knight fight with Sora in the game? maybe he dont know that Sora is the wierlder, and try to stole his Keyblade. Another thing, Zexion say in a part of the game: Where is Lord Xemnas? Maybe the Original Xemnas was the King, before Mickey. But when he receive the old man memories he turn in the Xemnas who we know. The members of the organization reigned in certain points, but to the being Mickey the only one who survived he took the place of Xemnas like king.
Now, here is my theories. Now, the text of the secret ending:
“A sealed tale of Truth”
I dont understand very good this, but maybe that means than Mickey dont say to Sora the true about the Origin of the Keyblade, and why he is the wielder
“A fate that occurs not by chance”
This means that everything have a explanation. What that suppose to mean? Balance. Stole the old man memories could be a error, but if Mickey dont did that, the old man could be stole the Keyblade and destroy the worlds.
“The fate of all is inevitable”
This three knights going to fall agains the old man. the original organization going to lost his hearts. Mickey going to turn in a King thanks to a unfortunately event. And other things that can discover in the Final Mix
“Each of their fates and Pass through and gather together”
I dont know what the hell means this.
“A new story awaits the awakening”
This battle happen in the past, but the story could take place in the future. This new story could be the Origin of the Organization XIII
on 31 Mar 2007 at 9:27 pm 28. alex
does anybody else think the main soldier (sorry i forget the abbreviation) and the old man are related? did you see how during the explosion of the dark soldier, the old man’s eyes turned the same color as the Main Soldiers did when the blue-heart appeared in the sky?
on 31 Mar 2007 at 10:12 pm 29. yamikray
well i may aswell post a theory, based on everything ive heard of course. i mean, you guys have some great ideas and i think everyones right somewhere but heres MY overlook:
remember when (as roxas) in the old mansion you took namines drawing and completed that symbol to unlock the secret entrance to the laboratory? the symbol had three parts. and throughout all the games there is a constant progress in the theory of becoming a heartless and nobody but is your original self split up or does that too become something? my point is we dont know everything, and that one bit of key information theyr arent telling us is the answer and unless you guys work for the creators your not gonna know it. ^_^
on 31 Mar 2007 at 11:50 pm 30. Faeyne
Well I agree with all of you guys. Except for some things. Here’s my agreements and opinions:
I for one think this is the future. “Memory of Zehanort”, “Chasers”, “Keyblade War”, “Lost Two”, and “Birth By Sleep” will be crucial to my theory.
1) What do the quotes “Memory of Xehanort” and “The Lost Two” mean?
First off, the lost two, I think, are the bald headed man and his evil knight that comes out of him.
Is the bald-headed evil man DiZ?
Ansem (DiZ) disappeared for sure when his machine malfunctioned in Kingdom Hearts 2.
But did he die?
He might have just been sent elsewhere.
Did this take his heart away in the process?
I think so. The machine specialized in that anyway, and it could have taken his heart away when it malfunctioned.
But why is this important?
Ansem the Wise was driven to hate by his apprentice Xehanort for taking his life away. Since the machine is not a heartless, Ansem was able to keep his original self but his nobody was still created. His nobody remembered the betrayal and now both of them work together, now swallowed by revenge.
THIS EXPLAINS THE QUOTES “THE LOST TWO” AND “MEMORY OF XEHANORT”.
2)Now what about this quote “Chasers”? and even more astonishingly vague, the quote “Birth by Sleep”?
Birth by sleep has basically already been answered — this is the birth of a nobody when the original form sleeps, or dies/loses heart.
Simply, the significance of this quote is to tell us that the three Chasers are Nobodies. Why do I think this? Because Nomura said so. “None of the people in the armour are any of the people that we have met so far, but they ARE RELATED to people that we have met.”
One of them was Roxas — that has already been established.
Since I thought this is in the future, the brunnette man at the end could be Sora. (remember that the Brunnette man was not in armor, and Testuya said only the people in armor aren’t Sora.)
The blue-haired girl.. this is tricky. She is completely enshrouded in mystery, so I have no theory for her.
Chasers are the three armoured people.
Why?
They’re set out to destroy the EBM (Evil Bald Man). Plain and simple.
But why are they out to destroy him? Did he do something wrong?
The answer is this in my oppinion: The EBM has doing SOMETHING with the keyblades. As you saw, the keyblades didn’t have chains. This means that they are fake and they are not real keyblades for chosen wielders. The EBM probably started creating Keyblades, also another theory of chaser (chaser also means: One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing. — wikipedia) Could EBM be a chaser in a sense.. by creating Keblades for himself?
THIS ANSWERS THE QUOTES “CHASERS” AND “BIRTH BY SLEEP”
Atlast the final quotes: “Keyblade War” and “Master of the Keyblade”.
By reading my theory, Keyblade war could simply be a war using keyblades, as you saw in the movie. But could it also mean another thing at the same time: that EBM and others are fighting OVER the keyblades? EBM has already shown in his actions that he, like all the other main evil villians in previous games, wants Kingdom Hearts all to himself. How does he get it? By being the Keyblade Master. By doing this, he has too show he is the most worth of being that.
Either way, the movie we just saw is actually explaining the Keyblade War and Master of the Keyblade quotes itself.
Now go back and watch the movie again and see how much my theory made sense. =D
on 01 Apr 2007 at 1:31 am 31. yamikray
ok here goes…
1. the keyblade war- i dont think what we are seeing can be described as a war, not between 5 people i think this is referring to something that again, we are not seeing or not being told.
2. the lost two- ya know, if roxas is there, but we dont know the other TWO maybe theyr the lost two, i could be them or the “bad guys” (and i put that with inverted commers because there is nothing to support the theory they are even bad, maybe its a test or something) and i think it has been shown to us like this so we cant decide which 2 it is.
3.chasers- chasers? it could be a name, just a name of another group. like i said before there appears to be a third party missing from the triangle. are they protectors or are they the havoc wreakers?
4. baldy- its obvious that this is xeanhort, but i cannot and i will not accept the term xeanhorts heartless or “ansem” he doesnt have the heartless symbol and there is no evidence to suggest heartless age.
5. baldys buddy- this is unmistakingly a heartless, it looks liek rikus heartless which was ansem so maybe this is ansem or xeanhorts heartless’s true form. but sora defeated him! maybe, but maybe he survived. there are countless theories…
6. the warriors- presumingly 2 guys and a girl, obviously the girl we do not know, it is not someone we have met before however, one of the dudes HAS to be roxas i said it before, or another form of roxas and the third…
7. “enigmatic soldier”- i have a theory this is some form of xeanhort and/or ansem the wise and here is my proof: -you get the chance to fight him in kh2fm+, well we got to see a sneak preview of teh new bad guy or even if you like another form of xeanhort in KHFM maybe square enix is being repitive in hope we wont notice or even to throw us. -the orange eyes, and this has been mentioned countless times. they do belong to ansem the wise and xeanhort, but when i was browsing the old comments something caught my eye, about how xeanhorts eyes are blue in the photo at radian garden? if you look closely at the end of the extended secret clip when you get the clear shot of his face his eyes start out blue and turn orange as the screen fades to “kingdom hearts” (note:kingdom hearts not kingdom hearts 3 unlike in deep dive or asas) perhaps we are witnessing the evolution of xeanhort?
8. birth by sleep- i will forever praise square enix for this line. there is nothing visual in the clip that can help us understand this. so so far i have nothing.
one thing is true: the game will be based on xeanhort, all the clues all the questions, they all lead a long path that always seems to end at him.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 1:45 am 32. Martin Kapusta
“old man” = original or earlier keyblade master whom used the keyblade to wreck havoc and chaos upon the worlds. read the first half of the movie, i think its hinting at that. atleast, thats my guess.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 1:46 am 33. Martin Kapusta
oh and for the last time the video has ALL NEW CHARACTERS. so no one is roxas ,no one is xehanort, and no one is sora/riku/kairi.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 2:36 am 34. ChaosKnightXD
Ok, this is how I feel about the quote “Birth by Sleep”, and If you’ve seen a translation for one of the new cutscenes you’ll know where I’m coming from.
One of the rooms in Castle Oblivion is the Room of Sleep. Now Xigbar says Xemnas goes in there alone but he often hears him talking to someone. In that cutscene you see Xemnas sitting in a chair and on the other side of the room is the shattered armor of one of the knights, probably that frozen kid. That is probably who Xemnas is talking to.
At the end of this secret ending it says “A new story awaits the awakening” now Xigbar also mentions a Room of Awakening and that “perhaps that is where the other friend is”. He also says that Xemnas was seeking the Room of Awakening and that also it was a room that Xemnas himself did not create.
And not only that but Xigbar says “So harsh of you. I just want us to have a little fun talk about, say, Xemnas’ secret. How many years ago was it? People with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas… no… Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?” This explains the “Memories of Xehanort” line in the secret ending as Xehanort seems to be involved with the keyblade wars somehow and his memories hold a lot of information, too bad he lost it.
These secret endings definently takes place in the past, there is no denying it after such hard evidence. That knight who looks like Roxas is not Roxas, just looks like him. Also by some of the other lines it seems that Sora, Riku, and Kairi hold similiar fates to these three knights. They are so close in personalty wise too I suspect that that is why the keyblade’s they have chose them.
“The Lost Two” doesn’t necesaringly have to be about the old man and that dark knight. It could be referring to those two knights who probably survived because if they didn’t I don’t think you’d be fighting one as a secret boss in KH2 Final Mix.
Anyways, The Room of Sleep, The Room of Awakening, and Xehanorts Memories are very important.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 2:57 am 35. Enigmatic Soldier
Ok. Being a huge fan of Kingdom Hearts I have to say something on this. Kh2 fm+ is a Japanese release so for anyone else we wont know as much. The secret ending of KH2 seemed vague and distort. It is now clearer but its still unclear (if that makes sense). ANyway here’s my theory. The Secret ending is before Kingdom hearts, explaining why the three aren’t Sora etc. and King Mickey at the end comes in. Also, the old man kinda “shoots” Kingdom Hearts into the sky. WHATTT???!! As for the guy who got frozen, NOT ROXAS. Merely impossible why he looks like him, I don’t know. Has anyone else noticed he is the secret Enigmatic Soldier boss? The soldier with orange eyes at the end. no idea, the girl, no idea. Random People if you ask me, basicaly I think this is set in the past.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 3:21 am 36. leon-aita
Also, another supporter to the brown haired knight being Xehanort.
Look at his hair.
Compare it to Xehanort’s, Xemnas’s and the heartless “Ansem” from KH 1.
It’s the exact same / similar hairstyle.
Well, it might not be Xehanort. But someone related to him.
The hair and the eyes give it away too much.
And I agree that the bald man has something to do with the lost memories.
And yeah Mr. Roxas lookalike… if it’s a completely new character, then he MUST be related to Sora. I think that he’s the one related to him. I mean, look at the eyes.
And for the girl… she looks a tad Kairi-ish.
She is new, so … idk.
But I do believe that this is in the past, NOT the future.
It just wouldn’t make sense to me if it wasn’t.
And yeah, this IS a new series, but it is still connected to Kingdom Hearts.
So I agree with whoever said that this series will be about Xehanort. It will probably revolve around the past of KH 1 + 2 which includes the Keyblade Wars and Xehanort’s lost memories.
By the way, I remember in the Ansem reports of him speaking of four different worlds. The dark, light, present, and inbetween. This series may have to deal with one of the worlds that hasn’t been delved into. It might be the inbetween… or light. Because we’ve been to the dark, but not into the light. We’ve seen, but not been in it. And I’m pretty sure we’ve always been in the present.
That’s just another theory to throw into the mix.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 3:49 am 37. Martin Kapusta
K no, the brown haired soldier is not Xehanort, you guys are going by hairstyle? who cares about the hairstyle, the only thing that seems slightly convincing is the whole yellow eye part, but even that is quite weak. If anything, the brown hair soldier looks like an older sora, with different a different hair style, i know it isnt sora, but its a good comparison. The noses lol, look very similar, but for now lets all just say theyre ALL new.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 4:25 am 38. Christina
*Falls into a panic attack*
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY CAN’T THEY JUST HURRY UP AND RELEASE KINGDOM HEARTS 3 ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:01 am 39. Luke The Duke
Nomura himself said that the three knights are completely new characters so sratch out all the theories that it is roxas or an older version of sora or diz or xehanort, lol all of you are so stupid im goin with the creators opinion on this one, oh and if any of you idiots remember that when kh 2 was being mad there was an interview with Nomura and he said Kingdom Hearts is Sora’s story, so no chance on him not being the main character, and if there isnt a keychain it’s not a real keyblade. Riku was supposed to be the real keyblade master in the first KH but remember he chose the path of darkness instead of light so it chose sora instead right, wrong if that were true then riku wouldnt have been albe to wield a keyblade( Way to Dawn) so, Keyblades were created to keep the balance in the four realms ( Light Darkness Twilight Dawn) Sora kept balance in the realm Light because of the constant voice in the first game that kept on saying you will open the door to light, Mickey kept the balance in the realm of darkness by not letting it escape in the first game, and he was only accompanied by riku because he was forced to go there by being controlled by Xehanort, twilight has not been introduced and as far as Dawn we know that Riku had to travel through dawn in order to become who he really was again so i dont think he was meant to be the keeper of peace in the realm of dawn, but now that i am thinkin about it i dont think Way to Dawn has a keychain, sqaure enix does a great job on the stry parts in their products, oh ” Keyblade War” both words are in singular form, “The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power. One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it.” once again Keyblade is singular so is world meaning that maybe ” A Sealed tale of Truth”( the second phrase in the KH II FM secret trailer) refers to a story made up about one person who saved the world from darkness by fighting against evil and bringing peace to the world, but in actual reallity the “wielder” had to take on the form of darkness in order to defeat it and didnt want anyone to know of the extreme sacrifice he had to make in order to save others( sounds alot like riku) i think the wielder was mickey thats why at the end of the trailer he is standing there with a look of extreme concern on his face wondering if the sacrifice he made before was all for nothing cause that video didnt look like peace to me, so when mickey became king he made a tale of a hero wielding a keyblade that saved the world from darkness in order to keep all the eyed off his dark self, Notice when riku took on the darkness in order to beat roxas he didnt turn bad because his motives were good, if micke took on the form of darkness in order to defeat darkness then he was still good because his motives was good and the keyblade saw that and stuck with him till the end, anyways i am probably wrong on everything because there is so much story in this series that it can overlaod a computer, no one will truly know the real story until the game is actually made, until then its all vanity trying to decipher what the real scoop of it all is, but it is fun
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:29 am 40. PJ
First off the 3 warriors: 1 of them has to be Roxas, the tallest one resembles Sora all grown up, and as for the girl……i havent a clue.
Secondly, the old man. If you take a look at him and a pic of Ansem aka Xehanort from KH1, you’ll see that they’re both wearing the EXACT same clothing!! What this means, i have no theory on that yet. But i’ll keep everyone updated on what i find out. But think the old man and Xehanort are connected with the message “birth by sleep”.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:30 am 41. ken
what if that was sora’s dad
riku’s mom
and Kiri’s dad?
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:35 am 42. PJ
They all could very well be new characters. From what we know right now I could be one of the three warriors, right? (joking)
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:37 am 43. Amy
Good one, P.J.!
Sorry to barge in. I’m new to this particular forum. (Clears throat) Sorry for disturbing ya. Carry on!
on 01 Apr 2007 at 8:21 am 44. Faeyne
Martin, That’s not true. Tetsuya said only the ARMORED PEOPLE aren’t SORA, RIKU, or KAIRI. That’s a big difference from everybody being new.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 8:25 am 45. Faeyne
I don’t think that the parents would get involved..
oh, and Luke the Duke, don’t get so rude by calling us idiots. We’re just seeing how many different ideas we can come up with and which ones make the most sense based on how much information we have so far. I don’t see how you’re any less of an idiot for coming here just to say that WE’RE stupid. And you’re no more right than we are on any of the theories as far as EVERYONE knows, so you’re just being a hypocrite.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 1:13 pm 46. yamikray
they ARE related to sora though, nobodys thought of the possiblilty it could be a BLOOD relation? i know it sounds cheesy but then again i do agree with this isnt soras story, this is xeanhorts…
on 01 Apr 2007 at 3:51 pm 47. Enigmatic Soldier
The guy with Orangish/yellow eyes also resembles “Fake Ansem, Xehanorts Heartless”. I think these are new characters but why has Nomura given them to characters we know? But the girl with the Blue hair is really puzzling. THe bald guy, The creator of Kingdom Hearts, he reminds me of Ansem the Wise.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 5:09 pm 48. Kagito
OLDMAN = Oblusly Xenatort’s Heartless w/ no hair
Roxas Lookalike = defently Roxas, and problaly the main
charatcer of the game along w/ Mickey.
on 01 Apr 2007 at 10:21 pm 49. Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix+ Secret Ending - News - Final Fantasy Net
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on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:12 am 50. princess_k
is it just me or does that guy at the end with the yellow eyes look like an older version or sora???
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:15 am 51. nsegative
So anyone think that the game takes place before the first kingdom hearts? (or is this just the backstory that leads to the events of after KH2).
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:41 am 52. adam
old man kills everyone that challenges him, and sticks their blades in that area. So maybe he has none something the sora and gang, and the shown people are friends of his to same him.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:42 am 53. r.a
after watching the trailer the frozen one is definitly roxas and he doesnt die. if you watch closely you can see his the pupils in his eyes move. The girl is unknown. The last knight that takes off is helmet I think is Xehanort. my reasoning for this is that as you all know there are 3 versions of oneself. There is the original, the Nobody and the Heartless. Ansem from the 1st installement was as we discovered the heartless of Xehanort. Xemnas from the 2nd installment is the Nobody. They have yet to explain the story about the original Xehanort. And it did say in the caption of the 1st secret ending “Xehanorts lost memories”. The knight looks like the original xehanort that we saw for a short while in the 2nd installment if you rmmber, has the same facical features and same hair. the only diffence is the colour where we see in the secret ending as brown rather than white. Another thing that confirms to me that it is the original xehanort is that when they do a close up on his face his eyes turn from blue to golden yellow, the same coloured eyes as ansem (from 1st installment) and xemnas.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:03 am 54. Axel s Nobody
Well The Old Man Must Be Xemnes Or Ansem and its Probarly not The Past if it is Ansem And the Guy who was frozen is Roxas The two others i think are new peoples
on 02 Apr 2007 at 2:31 pm 55. Josh
First of all the old guy is not DiZ(Ansem The Wise) because it is clearly stated that DiZ has never left Radiant graden(Hollow Bastion). Also this scene is highly believed to take place in Xemnas’s head, he is trying to remember who he is. The knight that takes his helmet off resembles that off Xehanort’s if you look at his hair(before it was white)
on 02 Apr 2007 at 2:51 pm 56. Thimien
I still think its all in the future, somehow its in the future, i mean thinking KH logic,If Roxas is there, it has to be in the future, and who knows maybe does 3 are Unknowns… there is a connection to all this, and obviasly this will all end up on Sora, Riku and Kairi… i dont think any of it is anyone imagining anything, Square have it all planed out, they wouldnt show us stuff and say something so stupid, like in game terms would be so ilogical lol Think of KH1 Secret ending as an example.
But yeah you guys do have a very powerfull Imagination i must admit to that lol we should all be working for Square!!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:00 pm 57. Josh
For one square doesnt have anything planned out, It is in fact Nomura that makes the plans for KH and he has most of it planned out in his head and it is his decision on what happens in the Kingdom hearts universes.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:05 pm 58. Josh
Sorry for the double post but, It is NOT roxas, they are 3 completly new characters. roxas is now part of sora so roxas’s story is done. If you recall Nomura say’s “It takes place in the past, but also in the future.” So my thoery was the most logical, The entire secret movie takes place in Xemnas’s mind which is his memories from the past, which means he is remebering things in the future.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:05 pm 59. Thimien
Fair enouth, so you said what i said in other words, it is planned out tho, so yeah.. you basacly repeated what i said. All i know is i trust the man to deliver, him and Square, eather way i know its gona be good
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:08 pm 60. Thimien
hmmm idk it just looks to much like Roxas, its no concendence im sure you can agree with that Josh.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:26 pm 61. yamikray
several things:
1. remember when kh2 secret clip deep dive was released and noone could tell whether it was riku or not? there was lots of people who said no its not and guess what? it was! so there is a chance ESPECIALLY if its in the past, dont crush peoples ideas dammit. umm entitled to our own opinions!!
2. anyone notice that ansem old man dude looks like arknam from dmc3?
3. can someone explain to me this key chain fake keyblade thing?
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:27 pm 62. twilight king
I have a theory. what if that is the past right. and the old guy whants to be immortal. so he puts his memories inside that guy whos eyes turn yellow. i guess becuase he was the strongest. so he puts his memories in via kingdom hearts. so mickey seeing the chance now that he is weakened traps his memories in kingdom hearts. so if that guy thinks like the old guy it explains 2 things.
1. why that monster and riku’s clothes were the same.
2. why that bald guy dresses like xeanorht’s heartless(AKA ansem)
Mickey after locking his memories thinks his safe for 2 whole games. until that monster dude starts searching for his memories. then sora starts looking for them. then the chasers try to stop anyone from taking the memories out. creating a crazy game that we like to call kh3.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 11:40 pm 63. Faeyne
You know what I think? That enignamtic soldier looked kinda like a cross between Sora and Xehanort.. with Sora’s eyes at first, then Xehanorts.. and the determination in the face that Sora always has..
I don’t know if this has significance or not, but I do know that this game is going to be the best out of all of them!
on 03 Apr 2007 at 1:28 am 64. Blaze
Okay, here’s my idea:
I’m mostly going off of the quote “The fate of all occurs not by chance.” This says to me, that there is an alternate dimention that controlls what happenes to Sora Riku and Kairi. The “Roxas” guy represents Sora (oh no!) the brown haired guy represents Riku (Notice how he like turns evil, it’s because he’s diving into the darkness to gather the strength to kill the man who just killed his friend.) and the blue haired girl represents Kairi (did you notice how she looked at the Roxas guy, they are obviously in love.). TBG (the bald guy) is either a compleately new boss, or Xehanort (again! How many times can this guy come back!). Obviously, the Mickey at the end represents King Mickey. In this way, the armoured people are not Sora and Co., are new people, are related to Sora, and that’s all the requirements that I think there was. It would be really a shame if the big boss was Xehanort again, he’s getting old, (litterally if that guys actually him. HAHA)
on 03 Apr 2007 at 2:10 am 65. Faeyne
Woah… I like Blaze’s theory… =D
on 03 Apr 2007 at 2:45 pm 66. Blaze
Thank-you, I thought very hard on that one.
The only thing I’m not sure of is who that old guys little black minion heartless thing is. Very strange. Anyway, to further prove my point, notice how the “Kingdom Heart” moon is blue? In KH2, it was an orangeish color. Blue is the oppisite of Orange.
all the things I have time for now. I’ll have to think some more
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:06 pm 67. Thimien
I like the idea, but its still to Farfetched.. heres another Farfetched Theory..
The man in Brown hair is SORA, and this is the future, the blond Guy is Roxas, in some way they found the way to bring Roxas to life to help Sora, because Roxas is allways with Sora anyways, twist to why Roxas is still young is because, Roxas only shows up as Sora remembers him, so he can never grow up like Sora, but they are linked for life, and the blue haired girl is ofspring of Riku and Kairi. Meaning, Sora realising his destany abandoned the idea of ever beeing with Kairi, so at some point in time, Kairi and Riku end up toguether giving birth to the blue haired girl.. now what hpns to Kairi and Riku idk lol in my theory does 3 are Riku and Kairi dauther, Sora and Roxas, thats why Roxas and the girl are smaler than Sora.
Hope you guys like this one
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:22 pm 68. yamikray
i like the logic behind thimiens idea but i dont think its correct still good, but i DO however think blazes idea was very well thought out, congrats dude
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:36 pm 69. Thimien
if i had to change anything on Blazes one, is that the brown haired represents Sora, just because theres one major thing on the video that would give away that is actualy Sora, and that is the way he hold his keyblade with both hands, besides Sora, there is not other that holds it that way.
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:42 pm 70. Josh
I would just like to point out that Nomura has said that his idea would be some thing so abstract that we would never guess what he is planning.
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:45 pm 71. Thimien
But this is fun, something to do till it actualy comes out.
on 03 Apr 2007 at 3:46 pm 72. Thimien
just to see who actualy comes closer to the real thing
cause if we were to go by what you just said Josh, then there would be no point in actualy thinking about it, let alone sharing these theorys
on 03 Apr 2007 at 6:11 pm 73. namine
im confused, that wat i just watched doesnt have anyhting to do with kingdom hearts 2? :S is that kingdom hearts 3 beginning or somethin?
on 03 Apr 2007 at 8:09 pm 74. u24me
pls where is the 140mb version of this video???? i neeed it so much!
on 04 Apr 2007 at 7:26 am 75. The God of War
Okay, Old guy is NOT Ansem or Xehanort. They never could use keyblades, they were not chosen, and since this takes place before castle oblivion was built, its not like they could gain the ability to. Yes Ansem (Xehanort’s heartless) while possesing Riku could use a keyblade but that was because it was Riku. Now not only did Nomura say that the characters were not Sora, Kairi, and Riku but he said they were ALL NEW and just related to people we know. Meaning, this could absolutely, positively 100% NOT be Roxas
on 04 Apr 2007 at 7:35 am 76. Thimien
im hoping they are all relatives, i want to find out why Sora is the keyblade’s choisen one… cause obviasly KH story starts before Sora ever gets hold of the key.. and if the old guy is Xehanort, that video is the future, well just thinking logicly, you get older with time, not younger, thats why if the old guy is Xehanort, then that is the future.
on 04 Apr 2007 at 1:54 pm 77. Nick Evans
I want to think that the guy that was frozen is Roxas, but, in this video, he is left handed. I dont think that Roxas is left handed.
on 04 Apr 2007 at 2:07 pm 78. Josh
I have a feeling its in the past. I will post a picture of a theory that seems to be the most correct so far. but unfortunatly I cant get the picture till later tonight since my schools computer are to gay.
on 04 Apr 2007 at 2:38 pm 79. Thimien
To be honest i just dont want to be desapointed ; ; i use to be a FF fanatic, now i like both.. and KHs has proven to be a top game, so lets keep this way shall we Nomura…
on 04 Apr 2007 at 5:18 pm 80. yamikray
thimiens right guys, guess, have fun with it and be excited its coming out, dont attack people for making ideas you dont approve of.
on 04 Apr 2007 at 5:33 pm 81. JazzDragon
First off, the knight is not Xehanort. He says he hates Xehanort and asks Sora if he can engrave that hatred into Sora’s heart. This happens after you defeat the knight in Final Mix or Chain of Memories for the PS2 (see the videos and translations floating around the site).
So. I think that video took place in the past.
Also, Mickey doesn’t have the kingdom key. He has that magical looking one (I played KH2 through only using the kingdom key so i don’t know their names) so does that mean he is still learning under Ansem the Wise?
The war took place in the past.
Since Mickey is hanging around, maybe he manages to stop the old guy from doing dastardly things to Kingdom Hearts. BuT! Maybe that guy comes back. Chances are if he can master his own heartless, maybe Xehanort was learning under him.
And Did anyone notice that the heartless was cruising around on the keyblade shooting ice balls at the knights…like a certain Sora?
(If any info has been dis-proved or already talked about sorry. I haven’t run across too much yet as Im just starting here…)
on 05 Apr 2007 at 12:09 am 82. twilight king
i think the chasers can weild keyblades. in the video they pick up real keyblades. they just dont use them when they fight that old guy. they use their own swords that look related to the key blades but arent.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 6:49 am 83. Thimien
idk if you guys have realised but the keyblades does 3 use, have a certin Inca relation, and the way they shine with the sun, and become all golden.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 6:55 pm 84. Axel s Nobody
Hey Look at the Keyblades on the first Scene Its Sora,Riku and King Mickeys Keyblade.
And it is Xeanorth who takes off hes helmet I Think i Know it All now Its from the Past right The Knight with Brown Hair is Xeanorth Before he gets white hair and when he s eyes turn Yellow he s abaout too get white hair and yellow eyes i think its like this and roxas has a strong heart and he probarly die in Kh3 i think thats how he became a nobody this is probarly not right anyway but i tryed :/
on 05 Apr 2007 at 7:03 pm 85. Axel s Nobody
To *Martin Kapusta * at the top 1. Theres no chick that die 2.The one that dies is Roxas . and The knight with blue hair is a GIRL
on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:31 pm 86. yamikray
umm mickeys holding the sword, im sorry, keyblade, that the 3 wardrobe fairies give to you as a present from yen sid, mickeys teacher so maybe, that is in the theory of this being a vision of the past, yen sid teaches mickey to use the keyblade using THAT keyblade or something like that, making this clip a period of time before king mickeys a keyblade master or even king. kinda like in the same position sora was in at the beggining of kingdom hearts 2. perhaps mickey is also a central character in the new project, ya’know instead or with xeanhort?
on 05 Apr 2007 at 9:49 pm 87. SHADOWHEARTZ
how do i download this trailer? whenever i click the link it doesn’t give me the file?
on 06 Apr 2007 at 2:53 am 88. Eleus
In Ansem Report 13, it says that somehow Xehanort opened a door (i think the door to darkness) in Ansem’s castle basement. I think he was able to open it because he still had powers from the Keyblade War. That supports the idea that the brown hair knight IS Xehanort.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 2:59 am 89. Eleus
Who knows, maybe in the new KH game will be able to see Ansem’s apprentices(who I think are Organization’s number II through VI):
-Even
-Ienzo
-Bleig
-Dilin
-Eleus
on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:46 pm 90. salomon
you know sora riku and kairis mom and dad newer come in the game it would be fun too se them
on 06 Apr 2007 at 5:03 pm 91. Axel s Nobody
I dont know Guys we will all have to wait until it realese will just have fun guessing whos who.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 6:08 pm 92. Axel s Nobody
None of the knights are sora riku or kairi but what if the knight with brown hair was sora in KH2 You get to be sora’s Heartless right what if when he’s eyes get yellow he s turning into a heartless i don’t really belive what im thinking now but haha this must be the most weird and not true theory in here …….. Axel s Nobody
on 06 Apr 2007 at 6:24 pm 93. Axel s Nobody
And One more thing Why do the Heartless or what he is who comes out of That old man get to use Magic like thunder and Blizzard and maybe he wield more power And what if the king just have gotten a new keychain
on 06 Apr 2007 at 8:36 pm 94. Nobodyless
i’ve been clicking the link and haven’t been able to get to the download page. Any help?
on 06 Apr 2007 at 9:11 pm 95. kh3 excited
i think that the knight at the end the one that takes off his helmet is a young Xehanort because his eyes turn yellow at then end and the hair style is kinda but not a whole lot the same and they better unfreeze roxas or the roxas look a like
on 06 Apr 2007 at 10:41 pm 96. Arlika1507
You know I think the blue haired chick and the Roxas looking guy are Sora’s because Nomara said that the knights are RELATED TO Sora and Sora has elements from the two knights. And I think the chicks name is Aqua and the roxas guy is Ven because the Xehanort guy says those names when you fight him (as sora)in KHIIFM. Most likely im wrong but this theory makes the most sense.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 10:43 pm 97. Arlika1507
You know i think the blue haired chick and the Roxas looking guy are Sora’s PARENTS (I made a mistake in comment 96) because Nomara said that the knights are RELATED TO Sora and Sora has elements from the two knights. And I think the chicks name is Aqua and the roxas guy is Ven because the Xehanort guy says those names when you fight him (as sora)in KHIIFM. Most likely im wrong but this theory makes the most sense.
on 07 Apr 2007 at 3:02 am 98. keyblade assistant
first i think that somebody…cough cough(old man)tried to make a copy of the keyblade to make it stronger and heartless like. Also i think that the old man is Xehanort because of his close and it cant be ansem the wise because i thought he died and he doesnt look like him.Finally xehonort tried millions of copies and gave the non ultimate keblade to the rest of his army thats why they dont have key chains
on 07 Apr 2007 at 3:06 am 99. keyblade assistant
alsoone knight picks up rikus keyblade in the beginning
on 07 Apr 2007 at 3:19 am 100. keyblade assistant
(regard first one minor mistakefirst i think that somebody…cough cough(old man)tried to make a copy of the keyblade to make it stronger and heartless like. Also i think that the old man is Xehanort because of his close and it cant be ansem the wise because i thought he died and he doesnt look like him.Finally xehonort tried millions of keblades and they didnt work
on 07 Apr 2007 at 7:43 am 101. vzx_keyblade
the tall knight is xenhort of course because if u read the translation to the E.S boss fight sora says xenhort 3 times and he doesnt respond after the knight or org. member goes to the basement and finds out his own master ansem kept his friend locked in so that he wouldnt know what happ. this next game could talk about xenhorts life how he was taken and the eyes are related to both xenhort and ansem thats why we see xenhort in secret movie with orange eyes and the bald guy too so thats how we know that those 2 are xenhort and ansem but yet they can also be related fo nomura must not lie if are theories are the truth because the team is trying to confuse us changing things so we wont get the answer. but in an ansem report ansem says how did xenhort manage to open the basement and there xenhort wants to find the room of awakening to show his true power or wake his friends. Ansem was a fag for doing the expirement on xenhort making him a heartless and there tells u heartless are dum and he was too confuse to know who he was…when you battle xemnas or in a scene he says the keyblade is a truley marvelous weapon at that point he gains some memory that he had a key before but not knowing where ansem put it so this is my theory and some of us can be wrong but we all tried to clear it so we understand …………..just hope they dont change anything no more because they confuse us and make this more confusing the lost 2 refers to those who dont know their place only hate the memory of xenhort refers to the knight who has been defeated and in the story he gains each piece of memory in the game the war refers to whats happening there as xibar said ansem told the org people use to wield keyblades and go in great battles and the org. sealed the basement so that xenhort wouldnt release his hate on ansem and himself for doing the destruction…..yet ansem controlled xenhort so that they would put hatred on xenhort so dont think ansem is nice because soon we will see what hes gonna plan also the kings letter is telling sora that him and everyones fate will await a new state in which a new tale will be awakened where all those who wield it will come together to stop kingdomhearts the bald guy(ansem) from bringing destruction to the worlds …..i hope you look foward to this as i like every ones theory for it all connects to something that we will find out ^-^
on 07 Apr 2007 at 7:23 pm 102. Axel s Nobody
vzx_Keyblade Is sO f****** rIGHT GUYS This make a lot of sense . Yeah i agree with him,
ANyway i never thought really Ansem the wise was as good as he seemed
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on 07 Apr 2007 at 9:38 pm 103. HaseoEx
Just throwing this out but i think this happens in the future and the taller knight is somehow related to sora because if you look closly when his eye’s turn yellow you can see the cicle line that sora has in his eye’s. And when the three knights pick up the three keyblades with keychains they’re all rusted and dulled.
on 07 Apr 2007 at 9:41 pm 104. HaseoEx
Sorry for double posting but the knight with yellow eye’s could be an older sora going in his anti-form. Though i may be wrong.
on 08 Apr 2007 at 12:35 am 105. nda38189
Is this video downloable yet? I don’t seem to know how to do it, lol…
on 08 Apr 2007 at 12:56 am 106. keyblade
WELL listen up!I’ve got 3 theores.
1)I think the 3 new characters are chaser frome an other worlds and they created by sora.When sora turn in to a heartless in kh1, he made roxas.Well he made and a chares the one off the 3 characters in the movie of k2 FM and the xenhnort had a nobady and a chares too,the old man.
2)I think the 3 new chracters they made frome sora’s year sleep by castel oblivion in kh chain of mamores.
3)the 3 new characters made by xemnes in room of awaikings and he wants to use them to destroy all the world and he nemed them chares,but the 3 chares want to destroy the xemnes and they escap from the room of awaikings and go to the other worlds.
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:00 am 107. keyblade
kingdomhearst3 will be a very good game defrend than the others ^_^
well…I CAN WAIT SO MUTS FOR KINGDOMHEARTS3 T_T
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:20 am 108. lea
I wonder who are those people and look at all those keybaldes!!! i wonder when it takes place ad where at?? its sad to see (whoever Frozen) That old evil guy is scary!!! another thing is mickey is just standing there and looking serious!!! I can’t wait for KH3!!
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:30 am 109. lea
I hate to say it but KH3 wouldn’t be the same if they didn’t have the annoying heartless but i don’t want to go through the whole story again like how he lost his friends and has to defeat the heartless and nobodies and all tht stuff but i miss the orgaization 13 still awsome
axel
Zexion
Demyx
on 08 Apr 2007 at 3:09 am 110. HaseoEx
the old guy is xenhnort,you can tell by the weird ears because on kh2 you look at the painting and see the same face and ears on him.
on 08 Apr 2007 at 5:27 am 111. theway2dawn
maybe here are some facts to help our talk bout kh3
What We Know for Sure::.
A list of facts, based on speculations and theories from our forums, and how we know them to be true.
Sora has to be the main character of Kingdom Hearts 3. Without Sora,
1) it’s not Kingdom Hearts, seeing as creator Tetsuya Nomura said himself, “Kingdom Hearts is Sora’s story.
2) Because the franchise would take serious financial losses, for the upsetting of many, many fans of the series. Unlike Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts is an on-going story and each title does not stand alone.
The 3 armored people in Sunset Horizons are new characters. They are not anyone we’ve seen before, including Sora, Riku, or Kairi. Nomura said so himself. However, they are related to people that were already in the game. This is not to say that they are related by blood. Also, this does not apply to the blurry figure on the horizon in the secret trailer, as far as we know.
The line from Sunset Horizons, “It all began with birth by sleep”, does NOT apply to Roxas’ creation. Yes, in the KHII intro, Roxas comes out of Sora’s sleeping body. However, Roxas was not born then. He was created the exact second Sora turned into a Heartless during Kingdom Hearts I, which was well before Sora went to sleep.
The soul does not turn into a “Souless” when one goes Heartless. The Heart turns into a Heartless, and the body and soul remain behind, making a Nobody. So the soul is part of a Nobody.
The third icon that Roxas draws on the table in the Twilight Town Mansion is the Kingdom Crown, the crown that Sora wears around his neck. It’s not some mystery symbol. You can see it clearly from the right angle.
Roxas and Namine are most likely not the “lost two”. They are very much found, and now reside in Sora and Kairi respectively. Roxas’s and Namine’s roles in the KH story are pretty much over, and the slightest chance they would appear in KH3 would be for flashbacks. If, in an extreme scenario, they do appear, it would be to aid Sora and Kairi with whatever they need help with, but as it stands now, they are fused with original selves now and most likely will not appear anyway.
Things We’re Not Sure About::
A few notable things of MANY that we don’t know for sure. Just keep these in mind as you make your own theories.
Whether Kairi has a keyblade or not. She used one given to her by Riku in Kingdom Hearts II, but does that mean she now has that as her own keyblade? We’re not entirely sure. She may have been able to use it simply for that one battle, or she may be able to use it in the future.
The identity of the Knights. Some have speculated that they are the “Chasers”, which was a quote from the secret trailer. A Chaser is defined as both “one who chases” or “one who engraves metal.” This may mean these are the makers of the keyblade. Others believe these are the original keyblade wielders. Some think they are a new enemy group, such as the Heartless.
The meaning of the “crossroads” made out of keyblades, as seen in the secret trailer. It could be that they represent the paths of Light, Darkness, Twilight, and Dawn. It could be the same paths as seen in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. However, they could also be plain, ordinary dirt paths.
Whether or not Ansem the Wise is dead. His machine exploded, and wen the light cleared he was simply gone. He could have died, yes, but he could also have been digitized, or sent to another world. We don’t know. However, when he did vanish, so did all of the remaining truths about his research of the heart. The Kingdom Hearts story has yet to be completed without this crucial information, and in order to search for the answers to his mysterious experiments, a likely scenario may be that Mickey searches for any known whereabouts of him. Depending on how “lost” Ansem the Wise is, Mickey could very well endanger himself by searching for him, and may become as “lost” as well. (The Lost Two?)
In the Secret Ansem Reports, Ansem states he found a battered Xehanort at his door with shattered memories. Many have speculated how he could have arrived in that state, but the fact remains that he had no memories prior to meeting Ansem the Wise. Similarly, when Kairi arrived at Destiny Islands, she had no recollection of her past or where she came from either. We now know that she came from Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, but still, her and Xehanort’s pasts are cloudy. One could say that their forgotten past lives are “lost”. Similarly, how did Xehanort get his name? Did he retain that memory, or did Ansem think up this name for him? If Ansem did, what is the origin of such a name, one that is an anagram of X and “No Heart”?
Keyblades have a visible sentience or related force when choosing masters. Just how that sentience is present is the question. They could be like magnets to the strongest hearts, or have an inherent “ability” to decide who will wield them. It could be an instinctual ability, built-in program, or a conscious will to follow whoever has the strongest heart (some say a heart for each realm: light, dark, etc). Many on our forum believe the keyblades are tools created by those known as “chasers”, and function in a way to bring order to each of their respective realms (ie light/dark). With this purpose, the keyblades have the ability to choose whoever is most fit for that role. However, from the legend that states that some wielders bring peace while other bring chaos suggests that the keyblades don’t necessarily have a choice between who is good or evil; they just choose according to the strength of heart, biased as it may seem.
Twilight/Nightfall and Dawn. To this day, we don’t know what these are, whether they’re realms, or paths, or something completely different. Many believe they’re realms, some believe they’re just paths, connecting Light and Darkness. The paths in the secret trailer are also similarly inconclusive. They could be alluding back to the paths depicted in CoM, and they probably are, but nowhere does it say that this is actually the case.
Here is the possible story….
Long ago, before Sora’s story began, keyblades were more common than in the times depicted in Kingdom Hearts I + II. Though still rare, they were granted to many powerful people. But these people were very shortsighted, and didn’t see how their weapons could tip the scales in their struggles against each other. At this point, the original creators of the Keyblades came together once again, realizing that such a catastrophe as the massacre that would inevitably occur in the wars of these foolish Keyblade wielders. They came to be known as “Chasers”. They guarded the balance of the realms, both the Light and the Dark, for they were equal, and the realms themselves served no motive in actuality.
There was eventually a great Keyblade war between the realms, and so the Chasers stepped in to keep it from happening. This was done successfully, but there was one who opposed this. Not clad in the armor like the rest of them, he stood up against them, feeling that their keeping the balance was not objective, that they should leave the world as it was, and that the balance would keep itself. However, the more he revolted, the more he became emotional, easily influenced by belief, and goals. He no longer had the true ideals of the Chasers in mind. He fought three leaders of the Chasers, who easily overpowered him. They needed to do away with him, so they left him, nearly dead, and devoid of his memories, in Radiant Garden. They would wait for him to choose the right ideals, for he, like all Chasers, had no heart, in order not to be influenced.
But he didn’t choose the right ideals. He studied with Ansem the Wise, and became known as Xehanort. Xehanort became hungry for power, and he found that power in darkness. He then willingly gave up the heart he didn’t have for that power. He may have had no heart, but he was still complete in being. His body and soul were left as a Nobody, to be called Xemnas. The rest of him became a spirit, roaming the lands looking for a suitable body to inhabit. He was not “part” of the physical world, and therefore didn’t “exist”. But soon he found Riku, who was quite suitable for him to inhabit. He called himself Ansem, stealing the name from Ansem the Wise. Ansem was then able to return to the physical world, using Riku as his vessel.
This was only made possible by the fact that when the Chasers removed his memories, they had to implant them in his Keyblade, which would be returned to him once he returned, but that didn’t happen.
Sora dreams of the battle, and of Xehanort’s outrage against the Chasers. The next day, Sora, Riku, and Kairi receive a letter in the bottle from King Mickey, explaining the rise of a force that could spark a new Keyblade War. But things become confusing for Sora when he learns that these are not the forces of Darkness he is fighting, but the forces of Light. What’s worse is, the only way he knows to oppose them is by fighting to represent Darkness. Sora can’t accept working for them, so the Chasers contact him. They tell him that he doesn’t work for Darkness, but simply of his own devices to keep the balance of the Realms intact.
The Chasers then go on to decide that it is possible to remain objective and neutral even with a heart, as opposed to what they once believed. In light of this, Sora is inducted into the Chasers, in order to fight the forces of Light and restore balance to the Realms.
The Way To Dawn
on 08 Apr 2007 at 6:11 am 112. HaseoEx
Wow!you know.. that makes perfect sense.that sounds really really good.
Awesome!!!!theway2dawn.
on 08 Apr 2007 at 9:14 am 113. Axel s Nobody
This is Gonna be a long Year I promise with this waiting it gonna feel li,ke it took hundred of years
PLEASE GET DONE WITH KH3
on 08 Apr 2007 at 11:40 am 114. Ally
You know what would be way abstract, as Nomura said it would be: If the “EBM” is actually the GOOD guy
Don’t think anyone’s thought of that yet lol like he’s trying to actually SAVE Kingdom Hearts, and Mickey was at the end and not fighting so that we wouldn’t see which side he was onm since he’s obviously good.
I’m not saying thats ittt, I’m just suggesting that yeah it would be very abstract
on 08 Apr 2007 at 4:12 pm 115. amelia
ive got to say kingdom hearts 3 looks really cool. but im not to sure about the bit where they freeze SORA ! i really didnt expect that to happen and i hoped it wouldnt happen. Kairi is the girl with blue hair i heard it was some thing to do with namine . but what i want to know is who is the man at the end when his eyes turn yellow is he riku? , and also whats up with mickey has he turned evil or some thing? Its just with him wearing all black, so is he evil ?.well i guess im gonna have to wait dam ! =)
on 08 Apr 2007 at 5:06 pm 116. i noe every thing
i think this is from the future cause at the end micky come out with his new uniform from kh2 and in kh micky didnt have that uniform when they shut kingdom hearts and looking at the guy who got frozen it looks like its roxas because the hair is totally alike and the eyes r blue like roxas in kh2
on 08 Apr 2007 at 6:24 pm 117. Eleus
Dark keyblade said that KH2 Final MIx+ is coming to the U.S., is it true?
on 08 Apr 2007 at 8:08 pm 118. jordan
think that one of the souilder were from hollowbastion
on 09 Apr 2007 at 1:47 am 119. HaseoEx
Hey! did anyone notice that the d.k and the old guy’s keyblades are the only keyblades with keychains on them. just hoping it will help somebody on there theores.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 2:38 am 120. HaseoEx
again sorry for double posting,but the last part where it says a new story awaits the awakening could mean that this is in the past because the first place on kh1 you play at is called awakening.this could also mean that this could be in the future and someone is about to get a keyblade.just thinking out loud..
on 09 Apr 2007 at 4:34 am 121. Jake
Uh will some one gimme the DL for this vid XD i been up all night looking for it and he said he would put one up the day later and i could never find it….. so please post it
on 09 Apr 2007 at 4:38 am 122. Jack of all Trades
It’s been confirmed on Khinsidder.com that the Roxas Look-Alike is Ven, and The Blue-Haired Girl is Aqua. But I don’t get how two people who look exactly alike can have different names. I still believe that The Chasers are the ones who made The First Keyblades. King Mickey comes in with a new uniform and the Star Seeker Keyblade at the end doesn’t prove that the story takes place in the future. To get to the knight battle, you go through a portal in Disney Castle. Just as I said, a PORTAL to get to the past and fight the evil force. That’s why I think Xehanort turned evil when he looked up and glared at Kingdom Hearts.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 6:59 am 123. Arlika1507
I don’t know how I CORRECTLY guessed who Aqua and Ven are before it was confirmed in khinsidder.com it must be when T.E.S. says those names when you fight him as Sora in Kingdom Hearts 2 FM. I still have a feeling that Aqua and Ven are Sora’s Parents, I don’t think that it’s an accident that Sora has Aqua’s eyes and Ven’s hair and Aqua= Water Sora= Air also from the way Aqua and Ven look at each other just as he is about to be frozen by the old man and when Aqua catches Ven after he is frozen they obviously have a close relationship I suppose more will be revealed soon.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 2:24 pm 124. charanjeet billen
r u all 4geting that the bold guys guardian is wearing or has da same look as riku in KH1 when he gave in to the heartless and let darkness consume so the enemies are still the heartless.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 2:26 pm 125. charanjeet billen
i think that kid might be a descendant of sora because it set in the future and he looks like roxas who is soras nobody.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 2:29 pm 126. charanjeet billen
dos any1 know what the music playing during the birth by sleep video is called.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 3:55 pm 127. Axels Nobody
Well You never get too see Sora’s Parents so it could be but i dont think its like that you see you can see sora and company how they look like in KH3 i think but
But i think is it futhur because you get to see the king s letter to sora and company so yeah gotta go
on 09 Apr 2007 at 6:55 pm 128. Jack of all Trades
Charanjeet billen, the Music played during the Secret Ending is called Fate of the Unknown. You can download it to your computer from this site.
I don’t see how we’re so quick to assume that Aqua & Ven are related. Maybe the knights were just friends. Can’t friends care about the safety of each other? I do believe now that The Lost Two are Aqua & Ven. Xehanort was the Dark Keyblade Master who followed the path of Darkness, and chose The Way To Dawn to fight the Darkness. Once he glared at Kingdom Hearts, it must’ve jogged his memories about The Path of Darkness he chose. He probably confronted Sora because he assumed that The Kingdom Key chose Xehanort since that the one that picked up. Ven looks EXACTLY like Roxas. Everybody was saying how Sora looked just like Roxas, maybe that’s what the Knight meant when he said we’ve met before. I don’t know, I just feel like Xehanort, Aqua, & Ven have some kind of strong connection with Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Maybe the Keyblades The Knights picked up were passed through bloodlines in their heart. Xehanort once chose the path of Darkness. The Kingdom Key was supposed to go to Riku, but his heart was overcome by the Darkness, and it was passed on to Sora. Maybe that’s why he was confused to see Sora holding the Keyblade. That still doesn’t answer how The Way to Dawn Keyblade ended up with Ven. Riku left Darkness and created the Keyblade with the power of his heart. The Kingdom Key that Mickey has was picked up by Aqua. That probably explains why Mickey didn’t have it at the end of the Secret Ending. There was a portal in Disney Castle(Like I stated in the beginning. That’s what they use to go to the past.) When The Knight confronted Sora, he shouted Xehanort twice. Either he was fighting with the Darkness within himself, he’s crazy, or The Knight wasn’t Xehanort. Could it possibly be his brother, or something? Where does the Old Man fit in to all this? Who was that clone he had with him? I still think that the Old Man is Ansem The Wise. Maybe when he rose up into Kingdom Hearts, it had some after effect on him like it did on Xehanort. If that’s the case, then what happened with Aqua & Ven? Were they effected some other way, or just banished some where else? In the Basement of Hollow Bastion, you could hear Xemnas say, “It’s been a while, Old friend”. The clip shows the remains of Aqua’s armor, and The Keyblade. Maybe when Xehanort took over Riku’s body and Sora was forced to turn himself into a Heartless, Ven was reincarnated into Roxas, Aqua was maybe reincarnated into Kairi, that’s probably why she could weild a Keyblade. The Old Man was reincarnanted into Ansem the Wise. I’m not sure about Xehanort. When his eyes turned yellow, he used his Dark Chaser powers to keep his true form. If the Knights do have strong connections to Sora, Kairi, and Riku, then that’s my theory.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 7:24 pm 129. heather
omg omg omg omg!!!
pleeeeeease tell me that the person who freezes tp death is not roxas!!!
surely he cannot die!!!
on 09 Apr 2007 at 8:07 pm 130. Arlika1507
I’ll admit that there is more of a chance Jack of all Trades is right about Aqua and Ven just being friends. But i dont see how Ven could have been reincarnated
into Roxas because he didn’t exist then if reincarnation was involved Ven would have gone into Sora.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 8:24 pm 131. Tifa
A. The one who gets frozen IS Roxas
B. I have NO CLUE who the other two are
C. Yes it is all very confusuing. Waiting on Square Party 07 to clear things up.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 10:10 pm 132. charanjeet billen
thanks 4 the tip jack of all trades
on 09 Apr 2007 at 11:07 pm 133. amelia
well im confused who any of those charectors are theres just to many romours and stuff, but all ive gotta say is woohoo is out in japan soon so it cant be that long now till its out in england YES! =) and ive seen the cover it looks really cool its called kingdom hearts3 “the keyblade wars” ohh sounds gd cant wait =) !!!!
on 10 Apr 2007 at 12:04 am 134. pieisgood2me
Ok this may sound dumb but this is what I’ve found out is that there are 4 chasers the girl with purple hair is Riku’s mother the roxas look alike is sora’s dad thats why roxas looks like he did the third chaser who everyone thinks is xehanort because he has yellow eyes is saix before he was a nobody his name was Ais(pronounced Ace) and he was kiari’s dad note saix gets mad and uses beserk in kh2 in that scene he was mad and his eyes turned yellow the fourth chaser is xehanort the main character in this story not shown in the videos so they don’t give to much away I do firmly believe this is taking place in xemnas’ mind while he is trying hard to remember his past what happened and how everything turned out the way it did. The old guy in the video is a completely new character and at the same time he is the first character he is the keyblade forger and the person who created kingdom hearts but was corrupt with the power of the keyblade which is why there was a keyblad war the few chosen wielders against him when he split himself in half it looked like one was him and the other is his nobody because it is younger looking and quicker and since he created kingdom hearts he had the power to not sleep and split into nobody and original being thats all i kno for now so hope i helped
on 10 Apr 2007 at 12:11 am 135. pieisgood2me
ven is sora’s dad aqua is riku’s mom i think they are married and sora and riku are brothers that is completely possible being that riku is a year older than sora that i just figured out so
on 10 Apr 2007 at 12:13 am 136. pieisgood2me
mickey is in his old clothes from b4 he was king and yen sid was training him srry i posted so many times but i forgot thus stuff
on 10 Apr 2007 at 12:27 am 137. pieisgood2me
i suck at forums and im srry i posted 4 times in a row but being new i just started to read some comments after i posted and to theway2dawn when it says birth by sleep you are correct when you say it is not refering to roxas while sora was sleeping but it is refering to all nobodies because when you turn into a heartless and a nobody is born for a few seconds you are in darkness not awake or asleep and you are pretty much dead but thats what it means by sleep in birth by sleep
on 10 Apr 2007 at 4:54 am 138. HaseoEx
I saw the case too it looks awesome, but is that the real cover or did someone make it,either way it’s awesome.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 5:05 am 139. Jack of all Trades
Arlika1507, you may be right, but Sora pretty much released Roxas from his heart when he turned himself to the Darkness to help Kairi. Roxas knowing how to weild a Keyblade has nothing to do with Roxas being Sora’s Nobody. That’s why when Roxas was released, he knew how to weild a Keyblade like Ven could. So, if that’s the case then Aqua was reincarnated into Kairi. Kairi did know how to use a Keyblade all too well. So if that’s the case Riku was involved with the Darkness quite a bit, is there a chance that Riku has a nobody? For a minute, I thought it was Axel because Axel & Roxas had that Sora & Riku. But other than that.
Charanjeet billen, No problem.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 6:09 am 140. Lonelyeco
I have a big question. How do you get a download of ‘Birth by Sleep’? I’ve looked everywhere and I only get the ones that don’t play. Also roxas101 is right, it won’t be called Kingdom Hearts III. The title I believe won’t even have the name Kingdom Hearts in it period. The creator though said for now he’s concentrating on Final Fantasy XIII. WHY!! Oh well though.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 6:55 am 141. KeyBlader
Egnametic Soldier-Sora
Blonde Haired Soldier-Roxas
Female Soldier-Kairi
4th Soldier-Riku
Im not sure about it but it’s them alright but their completely new characters because their 5 years older… =P
And the 4th 1 should be Riku!
Kairi-Freed Keybladers-So she was CHOSEN by the KeyBlade…
Sora-Chosen
Roxas-Half Sora
Riku-Chosen
The new CHASERS!
on 10 Apr 2007 at 1:45 pm 142. DannyisinlovewithKHgames
Hey guys I was searching the web when I found this false Picture of KH3’s Cover. If you want to ckeck it out go to google images and type in Kingdom Hearts 3 and it should be there.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 2:22 pm 143. sora
your wrong the guy who you think is roxas is not roxas his name is ven
on 10 Apr 2007 at 3:00 pm 144. No.XIV
i hope square will let us travel too pixar and some final fantasy worlds in the new franchise e.g. going to spira to help yuna and the gang get rid of sin from final fantasy 10.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 5:27 pm 145. No.XIV
thats not going to be the actual cover because as nomura said this is a new series so it’ll have a different name to kingdom hearts and theres no picture put on the cover just the logo.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 6:31 pm 146. Axels Nobody
to Piesisgodtome Mmm i Was thinking almost the same that saix is the last chaser but is probarly not right but the old man kinda look a little like Xigbar in Face..
on 10 Apr 2007 at 8:24 pm 147. Thimien
to clear up the keyblade thing. they can use keyblades.
they pick them up in the first part of the secret ending. then they drop it in the second one. they have their own blades that are similar to the keylades.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 8:53 pm 148. Jack of all Trades
No.XIV, that’s just what I said awhile ago. It’d be a cool idea to go to Cloud’s World & Hometown from Final Fantasy Advent Children. How kickass would it be to fight alongside Cloud and fight Sephiroth? Maybe get a chance to challenge Barrett, or Vince Valentine. Or maybe we can fight that HUGE monster Kadaj summoned in the Advent Children too. It’d be even more kickass to fight Kadaj, and his brothers. I’m gettin amped up just thinking about that idea. The cover looked pretty cool. Gotta gove props to whoever worked on it. I did hear though that Disney bought out Pixar, and own rights, so we could be visitng Woody & Buzz Lightyear. I’m laughing just imagining Sora, Donald, & Goofy as Toys. I’ve always did want to visit The Hunchback of Notre Dame World. That was a well done movie in my opinion. I wanted to revisit NeverLand and see the city that was below The Clock Tower in the first Kingdom Hearts game.
Lonelyeco, you should probably try downloading it from FileFront. The link should be on this site somewhere.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 10:08 pm 149. Roxas XIII
xehanort theory
the roxas look alike you see that gets frozen is most likely xehanort.
explanation.
this scene is set in the past, so it is likely that the roxas look alike is a young xehanort.
an ansem report tells of how a young xehanort came to radient garden and found ansem , whilst nearing death. this could mean that the frozen roxas look alike is xehanort as a child, who some how ends up in radient garden, loosing all of his memories, just as kairi lost hers when she moved to a different world.
If you fight the “enigmatic knight” on kh2 final mix. he will tell you that he “hates” xehanort, and that sora looks alot like him. HINT, HINT… the frozen boy looks like roxas, and roxas is sora!
Xehanort is an anagram for “No Heart”. this name could have been given to the boy seing as his heart was taken by the bald sorcerer to open kingdom hearts, just before he was turned into ice.
any one think this is just a little acurate?
on 10 Apr 2007 at 11:30 pm 150. pieisgood2me
keyblader you are partialy correct kiari riku sora and roxas are the four chasers BUT THEY ARE NOT the chasers in the video those are the past chasers riku sora roxas and kiari are he new chasers and jack of all traits axel couldnt be riku’s nobody i thought that to but remember the organization XII rule you take the persons original name mix it up and add an x look roxas is sora plus an x and xemnas who sed he was ansem is ansem and an x see what i mean so axel can’t be riku
on 11 Apr 2007 at 1:02 am 151. Roxas=Sora
i reckon its a dream…
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:00 am 152. Jack of all Trades
Pieisgood2me, if what you’re saying is true, then what about Namine? She’s Kairi’s Nobody and she wasn’t in Organization XIII. They only kidnapped her because she has a strong connection to Roxas who is Sora’s Nobody. I only said Axel COULD be Riku’s nobody because Axel & Roxas’ is reminiscent of that between Sora & Riku. How do you know Sora, Riku, Kairi, & Roxas are Chasers? We don’t even know what The Chasers do yet. I just made hypothesis that were The Keyblade Makers. We don’t know what Chasers are exactly. We need to know more about them before we make any assumptions. I’m still going strong with the theory that Roxas was a reincarnation of Ven, and Kairi was a reincarnation of Aqua. Kinda strange becuase Sora & Kairi’s Nobodies are Roxas & Namine. Maybe Ven was reincarnated when Sora released Roxas from his heart trying to free Kairi. Aqua on the other hand was reincarnated into Kairi. Kinda explains how she could weild a Keyblade huh?
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:38 am 153. sleepinghearts18
could it be possible that the secret ending takes place in the future which could lead to the fact that the evil old man that was fighting against the chasers could possibly be ansem the wise who possibly came back to life? if you notice, ansem the wise and this mysterious vilan both share the same eyes and this could lead to a huge twist in the kingdom hearts story. i’d also like to point out that in the secret ending when they show the clip of the field of keyblades all over the ground, it looks identicle to the clip in the begining og kingdom hearts 2 when sora is at the cross roads just before he meets the man in the dark hood. just thought id point that out
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:40 am 154. Xehanortking
your all wrong..
The old man is Xehanort….
remember riku has a memory of him and he will foeva live..
So he traveled back to the cross roads when he then realized his a chaser and his PAST!!
he releases him old form and then releases Kingdom hearts to recreat himself again…
Obtaining his knoledge of the heartless and nodobies he takes the cross raods as his HQ and summons the mark of the kingdom hearts. Controler of darkness he will now forfill his duty as a chaser of war and kill all who have obtained the keyblade throught his absince.
TY for reading and you all can put this all in your thick heads!!
on 11 Apr 2007 at 2:27 pm