Dark Knight on 08 Apr 2007 11:32 am
Keyblades Of KH2 FM+
Hi guys. Here are two of the new Keyblades of Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix. One is from Roxas and the other is from the Organization Mushroom sidequest. Here you have them:
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on 12 May 2007 at 3:24 pm 180. crystal
don’t listen to somebody
on 12 May 2007 at 3:22 pm 179. sephiroth
ORGANAZATION XXIX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 12 May 2007 at 12:01 am 178. Roxy
what does enigmatic mean anyway?
on 10 May 2007 at 10:08 pm 177. Shakespeare
Yeah, that’s his quasi-official name. In KH1’s Final Mix, Xemnas made an appearance in Hollow Bastion under the name ‘The Enigmatic Man’, which seems to be the most logical source for the E.S.’s name.
on 10 May 2007 at 8:03 pm 176. Roxy
Enigmatic Soldier
on 10 May 2007 at 7:19 pm 175. Butch
ok, dumb question but oh well,
whats E.S.?
on 10 May 2007 at 1:53 pm 174. Shakespeare
But the E.S. hates Xehanort. One of his few lines in the game is remarking about his hatred for Xehanort. I’ve covered this extensively in the past (most likely on this page, or on the Videos page for the E.S. fight), and don’t have the time to repost it (I’m doing this in the middle of class while the teacher is preoccupied). In short, my theory suggests Aqua, Ven, Xehanort and the E.S. were all former allies, and that Xehanort betrayed them by giving in to the Darkness and fighting against them.
Also, I believe that Xemnas was being sarcastic in calling Aqua’s armor ‘friend’. I said in another comment that Sephiroth says the same thing to Cloud upon his return in Advent Children (Xemnas says ‘Hisashiburi na…tomo yo’ if I remember correctly, and Sephiroth says ‘Hisashiburi da na…[Cloud]’), and his is most certainly taunting and sarcastic in nature.
on 10 May 2007 at 7:40 am 173. Shad
I had read what Shakespear had said in post 169 and the more I think about the last part, the more something really doesn’t sit right with me. Not the “KH3 is in Sora’s Heart” thing…that’s most definitely bogus.
What bugs me, is that Xemnas knew where Aqua’s armor was, called it friend, and in another cut-scene in KH2FM, Xigbar states that Xemnas is looking for the “Room of Awakening” where the other “friend” is. Van perhaps?
If that is the case, that seems to support my other thought. If you watch the extended secret movie at the end of KH2FM, the Enigmatic Soldier, he has a similar hair style and yellow eyes, just like Xehanort. Granted, Xehanort has white hair, but a change in hair color seems insignificant.
If my assumption is correct,(Maybe, maybe not. Who knows?) the Enigmatic Soldier might be the true Xehanort, before he had his memories erased. It would explain his knowing the location of Aqua’s armor as well as he search for what I assume is Van’s armor, (The “other friend”, as Xigbar said.) and explains why the Enigmatic Soldier and Xehanort share what few physical features we have seen thus far.
on 10 May 2007 at 6:02 am 172. Shakespeare
I haven’t played it either, and half the time there’s no voice acting for me to try to translate, and the other half of the time, the kanji is too small for me to look up, and since I don’t know what it sounds like, I can’t even take a guess. It’s like trying to read the bottom line on that eye chart…in Japanese.
on 09 May 2007 at 8:45 pm 171. Roxy
oh ok then…
on 09 May 2007 at 6:45 pm 170. Butch
i guess so but i still don’t understand fm so half the time i don’t know what ur talking about because i haven’t played the game.
the only thing i know from fm is this part when Xigbar is speaking jap about that girls’ armour
on 09 May 2007 at 6:25 am 169. Shakespeare
Considering that Nomura hasn’t made a press release concerning KH3’s plot or anything (which would just be silly), I doubt that he singled out one employee at EB Games and divulged the plot to him. That guy is just like us; he’s just throwing his ideas and theories out there. Just because he gets a nifty polo shirt and a nametag (and a paycheck) doesn’t mean that he knows anything more than we do about KH3.
…Not like I wouldn’t want the nifty polo shirt and the paycheck, though. I’d take that any day.
But really, we don’t know anything about the game except for what we’ve seen in the secret trailers, and what Nomura has been willing to tell us about said trailers. The fact that you can fight the E.S. and that Xemnas knows where Aqua’s armor is kinda makes it unlikely that they exist in Sora’s heart, though, don’t you think?
on 08 May 2007 at 8:57 pm 168. Roxy
i agree with the guy at EB games…whoever he is. the battle could be taking place in soras heart when he fights roxas or when he turns into a heartless. even though a heartless has no heart, Soras heart was kinda still there, it was just falling into darkness not completly in darkness.
on 08 May 2007 at 6:26 pm 167. Butch
so u know this based on what Nomura didn’t say?
on 08 May 2007 at 2:04 pm 166. Shakespeare
It’s rather what he HASN’T said, namely anything about KH3 that hasn’t already shown up on this site.
on 08 May 2007 at 3:13 am 165. Butch
im not egreeing with the guy.
i wanna find out for myself, nothing the people there say what u want, and r supposed, to hear
Shakespeare, im not familiar with what Nomura said, could u tell me?
on 08 May 2007 at 2:24 am 164. Shakespeare
I’ve already given my view on what ‘Some dude at EB Games’ has to say…I’d rather trust Nomura-san.
on 07 May 2007 at 10:11 pm 163. Butch
some dude at EB Games said that kh3 will be sidestory during kh2 but taking place in Sora’s heart
on 07 May 2007 at 11:09 am 162. M.C. Mcman
Thanks
on 07 May 2007 at 4:39 am 161. Shakespeare
From beating him. In KH2, it’s a cutscene when you arrive at Memory Skyscraper, but in KH2:FM+, it’s an extra battle. Winning it gets you that Keyblade.
on 06 May 2007 at 6:50 pm 160. M.C. McMan
how do you get Roxas Battle Keyblade?
on 06 May 2007 at 12:43 pm 159. Butch
will do and thanx!
on 06 May 2007 at 4:22 am 158. Shakespeare
It’s because of the Geostigma (Seikon shokogon, ‘Star Scar’) that he wears the long sleeve on one arm; the rain makes the Geostigma disappear. From what I understand, Great Gospel makes everyone in the party invincible and restores all HP and MP, but Pulse of Life removes all status ailments.
(There’s debate as to whether or not Geostigma is a status ailment; the general consensus is that it is not. It’s also general consensus that the rain is Great Gospel, since the movie never says anything about it.)
Go finish watching the movie…it’s awesome. ^^
on 06 May 2007 at 3:25 am 157. Butch
i haven’t seen all of Advent Children, is that rain what makes Cloud have a sleve on his left arm?
on 05 May 2007 at 4:23 am 156. Shakespeare
Well, as it has been pointed out, all the Final Fantasies are independent of one another. And really, how many Final Fantasy games have come out since KH?
I suppose the difference here is our choice of canon proof. I’m taking my proof from my knowledge of Final Fantasy VII, in which Sephiroth was born a few years before Cloud, and in which Cloud was infused with Jenova cells as part of the Sephiroth Clone project, which still makes Sephiroth ‘the darkness within Cloud’, as it is through this medium that Sephiroth controls Cloud’s actions throughout a good chunk of the game. (However, the Great Gospel rain at the end of Advent Children clears the Jenova cells from Cloud.)
A lot of people would probably point out that Reno has a lot of similarities to Axel, some going so far as to say that Axel is Reno’s Nobody. Of course, Axel - X =/= Reno, and Nomura has said that they are the ’same character’, but are not related. (It explains why they share a lot of similarities; facial tattoos, red hair, distinct speech patterns, the same voice actor…they are not related in-game, though.)
on 05 May 2007 at 12:22 am 155. Butch
its wierd how other final fantasies, especialy Advent Children, don’t talk about anything from kh, I thought for sure they would talk about the heartless, but not even organization XIII.
[I believe that sephiroth is cloud’s heartless because he did give into the darkness (and he said he was looking for his light)]
on 03 May 2007 at 11:27 pm 154. Shakespeare
Sephiroth speaks in metaphors a LOT. He rarely says exactly what he means. Cloud said that Sephiroth was ‘his Darnkess’, and Sephiroth scoffed when Goofy repeated it. (It’s also very possible that Cloud was being metaphorical when he said that Sephiroth was the one that ‘embodied all the darkness in him’. After all, it is because of Sephiroth that pretty much everything horrible in Cloud’s life happened.)
Perhaps a more pressing question to the ‘Sephiroth is Cloud’s Heartless/Nobody/Whatever’ debate is, if Sephiroth is indeed Cloud’s Heartless/whatever, why is the only characteristic these two characters share the fact that they both have blue eyes (a trait which, in Final Fantasy VII, was shared by ALL members of SOLDIER)? Ansem and Xemnas both share a strong resemblance to Xehanort, Roxas shared Sora’s unique ability to use a Keyblade and had a strong similarity in build and facial structure, as did Naminé and Kairi.
Sephiroth, however, has silver hair down to his ankles, three wings and a build that puts him at least a head taller than Cloud. Cloud has spiky blonde hair, no wings (I guess he lost the one he had in KH1 somehow), and a much shorter and stockier build than Sephiroth. The two bear no passing resemblance to one another. (If you really want, take a look at a source outside of KH, watch Advent Children and notice that Sephiroth and AERITH have more of a resemblance than Sephiroth and Cloud, when noting things like facial structure and the shape of the eyes.)
on 03 May 2007 at 6:55 pm 153. Butch
just one thing, Shakespeare…
i thought Sephiroth was just the darkness from clouds heart.
on 03 May 2007 at 7:01 am 152. Shakespeare
Nathan:
‘Kairi’ (at least the ‘Kai’) is Japanese for ‘ocean’ (the kunyomi is ‘umi’); ‘mizu’ and ’sui’ are Japanese for ‘water’. The E.S.’ name will have to be a masculine derivation of Terra, since ‘terra’ is a feminine noun.
Now for the meat and potatoes of this post.
Sephiroth can’t be Cloud’s Heartless OR his Nobody, because Sephiroth is /older/ than Cloud by about five years (judging by Cloud’s age during the Nibelheim massacre, the fact that Sephiroth remembers Professor Gast, the five-year missing-presumed-dead period, Vincent’s statements about the events surrounding himself, Lucrecia and Hojo, and Aerith’s age). I think I was able to pin his age at somewhere between 25 and 27 for the events of FFVII, but it would take too long to explain (especially if you haven’t played the game).
Cloud and Sephiroth represent light and darkness and are symbiotic in that sense, but one’s existence is by no means dependent on the other’s. (If it were, why would they try to kill each other? Especially since Aerith isn’t dead, and Nibelheim probably doesn’t exist in the KH canon.) They are clearly separate entities, despite Sephiroth’s statement ‘I am you.’ (Sephiroth spends a good deal of time controlling Cloud in FF7, and Sephiroth was Cloud’s childhood hero; he dreamed of being a famous SOLDIER just like Sephiroth, and built his life around that dream.)
Sephiroth is far more powerful than Cloud because number one, he has more experience in general (Sephiroth was a SOLDIER First Class and a general of the army, Cloud failed to get in to SOLDIER and was a grunt in Shinra’s army); number two, Cloud’s strength is the result of an experiment where he was infused with Jenova cells (Jenova, of course, being Sephiroth’s mother and the source of his incredible strength), meaning that he falls under Sephiroth’s direct sphere of influence since Cloud has part of Sephiroth himself inside him; and number three, Sephiroth has a firm understanding of his foes. Cloud can’t even FIND Sephiroth without sending Sora off to sniff him out. Sephiroth, however, not only knows where Cloud is during the 1000 Heartless War, but he takes out the whole lot of them surrounding Cloud pretty much just by appearing there.
Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts is more than just a heart consumed by darkness, he IS Darkness. My theory is that he only has a form BECAUSE of Cloud’s memories of him (explaining the many quotes from Sephiroth, including his command in KH:FM for Cloud to embrace the Darkness, as well as the quote from KH2 where Sephiroth states that ‘No matter how many times I fall, your Darkness keeps calling me back.’ It’s the IMAGE that gets called back; and Sephiroth only needs one memory from one person to return.)
But alas, it’s 2:00 AM and I’m rambling. (And yes, I am a Sephiroth fan, which is why I was willing to dedicate so much of my sleeping time to typing this.) Time to sleep now.
on 02 May 2007 at 6:34 pm 151. Butch
does any one else agree that the guy that took his helmate off at the end of the vid looks a little similar to Axel , in a way?