Kota on 07 Oct 2007 01:59 am
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
The new installement of the Kingdom Hearts series for the PSP, explaining the deep past of Kingdom Hearts, we are introduced by 3 characters, Ven, Terra and Aqua, Ven has a relation with Sora, Ven means air, as Sora means wind, which are the same; Aqua means water, and Kairi means ocean, which leads the same to water; Terra means earth, as Riku has some relation with earth. The major playable character is Terra, seen in the scans. In the game, the world Hollow Bastion or better known as Radiant Garden will explain himself more. Disney characters will make an appereance here as well. The old man is an older version of Xehanort, the game itslef will show the gamers the Real Keyblade Master, as Tetsuya Nomura (Director) well explained on his interview.
Trailer Descryption:
Scenes of the ending of Kingdom Hearts 1 flash by on the screen, and two phrases are seen clearly onscreen. One reads “Deep Past” and the other “Shut-Eyes gives birth to the concealed fate.”
We are then confronted by a young boy who looks like Roxas conversing with another young boy with black hair. Their surroundings seem to resemble Hallow Bastion (Radiant Garden). The name “Ven” is thrown outward, referring to the boy who looks like Roxas.
The scene change various times before stopping at an iamge of the Old Man from the KH2FM+ secret ending. He is called “Master Xehanort” by Terra. Soon after, Terra summons his keyblade and the screen chandes.
Various worlds are shown, and one of which is familiar to us all. “Olympus Colliseum” is making another comeback, followed by a brand new world, that of which resembles Sleeping Beauty.
The video then changes back to Terra battling against a dark figure, whom you can tell is male. This is the same man from the Secretn Ending of KH2FM+, the one who the Old Man creates. Terra is able to forceably get the man’s helmet off, but his face is concealed.
King Mickey is shown summoning kis keyblde, and then the scene changes very quicly to Terra on a beach. He seems to be watching two boys play in the ocen. After he rests his weapon into the ground, the two boys he was watching are clearer and they look like Sora and Riku. Soon after, Terra says “Please don’t depend on me, just erase me… friend.
Scans:
on 07 Oct 2007 at 6:18 pm 1. misspretty
PSP? Why can’t it just be on PS2?………oh well
on 07 Oct 2007 at 6:43 pm 2. kingdomheartsfan
MAN.. iWANT THIS GAME BUT… U CAN NEVER KNOW IT MIGHT COME IN DIFFERENT SYSTEMS.
on 07 Oct 2007 at 8:54 pm 3. animelover
okay…i dont have a psp why do u change systems so much
(shyly said)
on 07 Oct 2007 at 10:21 pm 4. blahblahblah
I thought Sora meant Sky.
on 08 Oct 2007 at 1:42 am 5. stacy
thats the best thing ever happened all we need to kno is wen it comin out if yall can email the date
on 08 Oct 2007 at 2:16 am 6. purpleemu
when is it coming out?
on 08 Oct 2007 at 2:05 pm 7. riku
crackers
on 08 Oct 2007 at 6:13 pm 8. Diego Gonzalez-keyblade master
Birth by Sleep, ask yourself, when was Roxas born? When Sora slept. Think about it, it’s not a spell or phrase, it’s Roxas’ birth. And 358/2 days, it is based when Roxas entered the Organization, and when he quitted too, and this DS game is occuring in Sora’s slumber, I mean, something had to happen when he slept. So what I don’t understand is why it is called 358/2 days instead of birth by sleep, well, because, the DS game is more based on Roxas entering and quitting the Organization, not in his birth. So another question is, why is the PSP game called Birth by Sleep? What I think, is that Terra, Aqua and Ven were somehow in charge of preventing Roxas from entering the Organization. Now, remember in the Secret Ending? Tetsuya Nomura mentioned Keyblade Wars, Keyblade Master and other phrases, then it said “it all began with… Birth by Sleep”, and if Birth by Sleep is a videogame, and it happened before the Keyblade Wars and the other stuff, then Tetsuya Nomura may have given the names of the upcoming KINGDOM HEARTS GAMES!!!
on 08 Oct 2007 at 6:55 pm 9. Axel4ever
Crap, now I’m gonna have to by a psp… But that game looks so cool….
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:44 pm 10. terra
terra is rikus dad
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:46 pm 11. terra-keyblade master
when is duh game comin out im about to get my PSP
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:47 pm 12. terra-keyblade master
the game is sick
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:48 pm 13. terra-keyblade master
but the game has something to do with riku being the true keyblade master
on 09 Oct 2007 at 6:22 pm 14. nicholas1488
when is it coming out how much will it cost will it be for playstation 2 or 3
on 10 Oct 2007 at 1:27 am 15. #9ansemriku
Diego Gonzalez-keyblade master, your tottally wrong. its been confirmed by tetsuya that it takes place before KH1, not during roxas’ birth
on 10 Oct 2007 at 1:38 am 16. AyuSora
You know. Even though the PSP is Sony’s little black mistake. Birth by Sleep is DEFINITELY enough reason to get one
on 10 Oct 2007 at 7:33 am 17. Lame Loser
Some of you ask the stupidest thing…. How much is it? why PSP? GOD Shut UP for ones damm kids.
on 12 Oct 2007 at 11:19 am 18. sora's darkside
i can’t believe it ITS COMIN OUT 4 PSP WOW!!!!!!!!!!
I’VE GOT 1 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 12 Oct 2007 at 2:11 pm 19. Zana11
I’ll buy one psp. And buy a birth by sleep. WWOOOOOWWW!!!
on 12 Oct 2007 at 2:19 pm 20. Saïx
unfortunately i dnt hav a psp.
on 12 Oct 2007 at 11:45 pm 21. kingdom key
i don’t know anybody
on 13 Oct 2007 at 2:35 am 22. broken
Roxas wasn’t born while sora was sleeping, he was born when sora stabbed himself with riku’s keyblade. Maybe Xemnas found Roxas in The World that never was. There is something tht i dont get. if xemnas spun sora’s name around roxas, then it turned into roxas, then why didnt xemnas just take roxas back to the organization? or did he?
on 13 Oct 2007 at 1:27 pm 23. sora
now im depressed cuz now ill have 2 buy a psp but oh well i will do it for kingdom hearts!
on 14 Oct 2007 at 3:34 pm 24. 13kh3obsessed
is kh bbs goin to be comin out in english or in japanese because i was reading a web page and it said that this game will be in japanese
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:33 pm 25. demonsora
why cant kingdomhearts birth by sleep; 358/2 days and coded be all on PS2 why oh why
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:34 pm 26. demonsora
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on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:35 pm 27. demonsora
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:35 pm 28. demonsora
dose any one know were i can get kindomhearts 2 finall mix?
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:40 pm 29. demonsora
I have a psp
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:41 pm 30. demonsora
i got a mobile phone
on 14 Oct 2007 at 8:41 pm 31. demonsora
but i dont got a DS
on 14 Oct 2007 at 10:40 pm 32. RoxasFTW
LOL im looking forward to 358/2, what does the over 2 mean? But birth by sleep looks good.. lol
Yeaahhh. My ds is pretty effed but im getting a ds lite and i have a psp
Yay?
Oh yeah i was told Sora meant sky as well
on 15 Oct 2007 at 10:57 pm 33. Chris
When is it comin out
on 15 Oct 2007 at 11:20 pm 34. keyblademaster
i heard kh3 is gonna be on p.s.p
on 16 Oct 2007 at 6:54 am 35. #12 KH Gamer
that’s not KH3 KBM, it’s a side story called birth by sleep, just like chain of memories.
on 16 Oct 2007 at 7:54 pm 36. #6 heartwielder
I hate this if theres a kh3 its going 2 b on PS3, and this is on PSP, and 358/2 is on DS. This is retarded, y don’t u have this and 358/2 both on a PSP and kh3 on PS3 cuz I can’t buy all 3
on 16 Oct 2007 at 8:36 pm 37. grimmjow100
damn im goin to get birth by sleep is going to be awsome
on 16 Oct 2007 at 8:43 pm 38. #15 Warrior x
all these consoles for kh is madness i tell you madness!!!!
on 17 Oct 2007 at 7:06 am 39. roxas
please…..,you send to me,games PS3 80GB send to me,please…..,me love kingdomhearts3…hiks hiks hiks
you devil…..,roxas is angel ligth…..
on 18 Oct 2007 at 1:44 am 40. christopher
omg i cant belive it is coming out on psp i think it should come out when the one in japans comes out like on the same date
on 18 Oct 2007 at 4:29 am 41. Young Virus
2 words to describe the game
Awsome….
on 18 Oct 2007 at 5:32 pm 42. BeWilDEreD
well…in my opinion, these games shouldn’t only be exclusive with the PSP, DS, and Cellphones!! They should also be on the PS2 ’cause not all of us have these three altogether, maybe we have 1 or 2 the three gadgets but we still won’t be able to experience all side stories like Chain of Memories, which I was denied of experiencing just because it was only exclusive with GBA (game boy advance). Where’s the JUSTICE in all this huh?!?
on 19 Oct 2007 at 9:30 am 43. Albhedhq
Yay! Thank the lord i still have that old PsP, I have a Rose coloured DS, so thats fine… As for Coded, i’ll just “read” op on that story.
Playing games on my Cellphone, thats a no, no…
PS3, come on guys, there’s the one with lesser GB for 400 Euro’s now… (No idea what prices are in US and GB)
Anyways… Can’t wait to play the DS/PsP Games!
Greetings,
Neela
on 19 Oct 2007 at 10:18 am 44. Saïx
yeah, well i dont have a psp or a ds!! and im not gna get coded 4 my mob
on 20 Oct 2007 at 2:32 am 45. roxas1181
Does anybody know when Birth by Sleep will come out on the PSP?
on 20 Oct 2007 at 11:08 am 46. Nobody Noxin
Hey, how come my classmate already has the Japanese Birth by Sleep in his PSP? It’s not even released yet… Is he lying to me? I’m not sure…
on 20 Oct 2007 at 12:02 pm 47. Tazimus Prime
Yeah he is lying to you.
on 21 Oct 2007 at 12:34 am 48. Kiki_emogurl
r they gonna come out with it for the ps 2 or anything cuz i dont have a psp
on 21 Oct 2007 at 3:55 am 49. Ven
I truly think Ven is Roxas and Aqua is Namine
If you have seen the trailor A person got frozen
He looked much much like roxas.And i think his memory was lost. I also think Sora is Roxas’s nobody. I also think Terra is Rikus nobody and the bald guy is ansem in the past and the red suited guy is Xemnas.
on 21 Oct 2007 at 4:07 am 50. aaronsucks
i think that the scene was in the past and the bald gut is ansem because his suit looks like the suit rikku wears so he could have trained with him in the future. when the guy in the scene was frozen it looked like roxas and he could have forgotten about every thing and that kingdom hearts birth by sleep is roxas’ story during kingdom hearts 1.
on 21 Oct 2007 at 4:09 am 51. Guilhermesmellsbad
YOU SMELL BAD!
on 21 Oct 2007 at 4:11 am 52. aaronsucks
you smell bader hahahahahahahahaha!
on 21 Oct 2007 at 8:45 am 53. bmoss
which aaron r u dissing?
on 21 Oct 2007 at 7:17 pm 54. roxas1181
Ven, Terra, and Aqua are not connected to Sora, Roxas, Namine or whatever.
on 21 Oct 2007 at 8:31 pm 55. demonroxas
i have a psp and ds and cellphone!
on 21 Oct 2007 at 8:31 pm 56. demonroxas
i have a psp and ds and cellphone!
on 21 Oct 2007 at 8:31 pm 57. demonroxas
i have a psp and ds and cellphone!
on 22 Oct 2007 at 1:09 am 58. tsunami
man, i wish i had a psp, oh well, i’ll just borrow a friends….man, ven looks too much like roxas!!!! i read that the voice actors are gonna be the same…..gyaaaaa…i want it…
on 22 Oct 2007 at 3:22 pm 59. Gingergirl89
@roxas1181, isn’t there a connection to riku aswell?
on 22 Oct 2007 at 7:36 pm 60. sora526
kiaris hot!!!!!!!!!!!!but namines butt ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who doesant know that!!!!!!!!
on 22 Oct 2007 at 11:18 pm 61. sorarox99
karis so hot and namine is so ugly i agree with sora526 and i got a ds lite and im getting a psp for christmas but im probably going to get birth by sleep for psp
on 22 Oct 2007 at 11:23 pm 62. sorarox99
ven and roxas have to have a conection to each other they look so alike
on 22 Oct 2007 at 11:33 pm 63. sorarox99
i found out the reason ven and roxas look alike but its a spoiler so im not going to tell you
on 23 Oct 2007 at 1:23 am 64. sorax
tell us please.
on 23 Oct 2007 at 4:41 am 65. roxas1181
yes, please tell us.
on 23 Oct 2007 at 10:48 pm 66. sorarox99
fine its cuz ven and roxas r……………..brothers
on 23 Oct 2007 at 10:49 pm 67. sorarox99
did u guys get that
on 23 Oct 2007 at 10:52 pm 68. sorarox99
i dont know if its true but thats what i saw when i was searching for why they look so alike
on 24 Oct 2007 at 1:26 am 69. #9embrace nothingness
sorarox99, you are so wrong. roxas isnt created until sora “died” in kh1, and birth by sleep takes place BEFORE kh1.
on 24 Oct 2007 at 1:42 am 70. Pgxx
Im so sad now i have to buy a psp but i wont…
WHY THE GAME IS FOR PSP AND NOT FOR PS2!!!
on 24 Oct 2007 at 5:08 pm 71. italianRiku
it’s incredible i’ve just bought a psp hahaha yeaaaa i just wanna know…. is sora deth? (sorry for my english.. i’m italian XD)
on 24 Oct 2007 at 5:09 pm 72. Daleksupreme
You can blow me for all I care BLOW ME!
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:00 pm 73. sorarox99
no cuz ven is roxas brother thats why roxas looks like ven cuz roxas got his memory erased and he took the form of ven his brother
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:27 pm 74. Josh/ViVi
sorarox99: wherever you got that info, stop listenin to it
that is 100% false
Roxas, has no family
he is a nobody
not a really person, they do not have hearts
plus, Ven was before his time
Sora was only like, 8 years old when Terra was at the beach watching them swordfight
then you see Ven at that same beach, seeing how Terra and Ven are from the same time
so Roxas was never made then and so he could have never been his brother
get your facts straight
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:31 pm 75. someone
but i heard that this game will be on ps3.
it would make sense since the ps3 just came out and sony and the game would make loads off of it
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:32 pm 76. Josh/ViVi
we need a new rule, do NOT post a theory until you have read all the interviews of Nomura
do NOT look up theories on google
read the interviews here, and Thekingdomhearts.com
then post them
this will actually give you a good idea of what kh3 is about
so dont waste time with pointless theories
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:33 pm 77. Josh/ViVi
go to the home page someone
then read down til you see the 3 games that are comin out
on 24 Oct 2007 at 8:41 pm 78. Diamond Dust
Josh/ViVi is right. How can Roxas have a brother? He’s a nobody. He was born from Sora’s body and soul. Ven can’t possibly be Roxas’ brother, but he does have a connection to Sora, what it is… I’m not sure yet.
on 25 Oct 2007 at 12:13 am 79. Quazzie1234
I was just reading the paragraph up top explaining the new video and some ideas popped in my head. Now, I odn’t know if this has already been said but the first thought that came into my head by “Deep past” was this new game. It supposedly takes place in the past so, makes sence. Then, “Shut eyes gives birth to a concealed fate”. Well I believe the “shut eyes” is dealing with death. This death is supposed to take place, almost like destiny. For example, Terra must die to save the world in a way, this is Terra’s “concealed fate”. And i think Terra knows about his fate, mainly because he is telling whom ever “Please do not depend on me…”….oh and sorry for the long comment.
on 25 Oct 2007 at 3:16 am 80. Josh/ViVi
hmm……not a bad theory
but i think it would more be so to Ven
he might not have died but we have not seen him
or at least, we saw the scene with him frozen
on 25 Oct 2007 at 4:46 pm 81. devin
hmmm…i lik this theory but still id lik to know more about it. i just hope i dont hav to wait another 2 years for it to come out lol
on 25 Oct 2007 at 6:10 pm 82. Anaraen
Riku means earth, Sora means sky.
on 25 Oct 2007 at 7:39 pm 83. Kingdom Hearts Freak!!!
Did you notice up there they did not say anything about Aqua
on 25 Oct 2007 at 7:44 pm 84. Kingdom Hearts Freak!!!
Is Birth bye sleep going to have Pride Rock in it cos that was a cool world!!!!!!
on 26 Oct 2007 at 5:32 am 85. Taxmt
I am ungodly excited for this game. Going so far as to purchase a DS to play it. If I can’t afford it when “Birth By Sleep” comes out, I will lie, cheat, and steal to get my hands on one.
Possibly, result to murder. How many forumites must die before I get my rightful prize?
on 26 Oct 2007 at 5:32 am 86. Taxmt
I am ungodly excited for this game. Going so far as to purchase a DS to play it. If I can’t afford it when “Birth By Sleep” comes out, I will lie, cheat, and steal to get my hands on one.
Possibly, resort to murder. How many forumites must die before I get my rightful prize?
on 26 Oct 2007 at 8:51 pm 87. soraowns123
Tamxt ur weird
on 27 Oct 2007 at 12:24 am 88. AquaMeria
Teehee, I’m going to murder someone if I dn’t get a PSP or PS3. >
on 27 Oct 2007 at 7:19 am 89. Alaina XD
F***!!!
I want a PSP!!
on 27 Oct 2007 at 2:15 pm 90. kingnobody93
all i kno is this game has got to come out for the ps3 it just has to its ufair for it to come out on the psp (even tho i already have one) it would just be better for the ps3
on 27 Oct 2007 at 2:21 pm 91. kingnobody93
alright alright its time for me to bring up an old conversation. has anyone here let the thought cross there minds of ven maybe being the father of sora maybe.
on 27 Oct 2007 at 3:55 pm 92. sorax
dude i think your right.
on 27 Oct 2007 at 8:05 pm 93. Josh/ViVi
god dammit, if anyone thinks he is the father of sora, get outta here or be quiet!
lol
sorry
its just that you people do not read the interviews and you think your right anyways when your not
Ven and Sora have 1 relation to each other and that is them being Keyblade wielders
nothing else than that
they are not father or son
not brothers, cousins or whatever
niether is Terra or Aqua or Riku or Kairi or Roxas related to anyone
none of these are related in any way
and Kingnobody, you have NO idea how many times people brought that up
only to find out that they were wrong
on 27 Oct 2007 at 8:16 pm 94. Samuel Nevilles
I think there is a father of sora because if you look at the trailer of Kingdom Hearts3 at the end you will see a knight taking off his mask and that roxas was there to maybe roxas followed his father just to probly save the worlds agian and then if you saw every part of it you will see King Mikey seeing the trouble and probly going over to roxas and revie him so thats all I think about this question.
on 27 Oct 2007 at 11:59 pm 95. van/or/sora
do any of you know anything about kh3 because we all know van is not soras dad. if any of yall seen the video on youtube the roxas look alike is actully soras dad.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 12:03 am 96. van/or/sora
samuels a loser everybodys been saying van is not soras dad
on 28 Oct 2007 at 2:32 am 97. oh billy
Actually Nomura himself said there is a connection between the 3 knights and the 3 main characters…
he may not be his father, but there are connected in some way… maybe b4 you blow a lid, you get your facts straight…
on 28 Oct 2007 at 3:35 am 98. Josh/ViVi
well yea Bobby ive been sayin that for a while
the closest connection we can make is that they all have a keyblade
and maybe something more but for now, all we know is that they are chosen keybearers
on 28 Oct 2007 at 3:53 am 99. NeoHeartless
lmfao, i love you guys.
Seeing you having such a deep discussion about the 3 knights and how they are connected to sora, riku, and kiari makes me tearful in some way ;-).
Well anyway, you all have good points and somewhat good theories, but in the end, you must get it through your heads that the three knights are not blood related to the 3 main characters. But here is a clue before you chop off my head. Think only about how they are related by their skill at handling the keyblade. From there, i shall let your minds rack up answers. See you all soon, and if any of you have any questions about kh, please feel free to ask me, i’ll answer it to the best of my abilities.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 6:05 am 100. black heart
that makes sense in a way, but it stil raises many questions, for one thing,Ven looks more like roxas so its possible that they are related by blood, on the other hand roxas was soras nobody so why would soras dad take after him, also sora has brown hair not blonde.
and to get things straight, its not kingdom hearts 3,its kingdom hearts birth by sleep.
to be completely honest, i would believe that Terra is soras pops, and aquas his mom; thats just my personal opinion so dont tear the hell outta it.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 6:08 am 101. black heart
and one more thing, this game takes place 10 years before soras time so the whole father, family, blood relation theory isnt something that should just be thrown out the window.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 7:51 am 102. Tazimus Prime
black heart: Actually it should. See Birth by Sleep takes place ten years before Kingdom Hearts 1, like you said. Now that would make Sora five years old when Birth by Sleep happened. Ok we can throw Ven out being Sora’s since Ven seems roughly the same Sora is in KH1 & KH2. Making him either 15 or 16. Unless they want to go into the whole teenager having a son ordeal then we can scratch him off the list. Now Sora’s mother’s voice makes an appearance in Kingdom Hearts 1, but yet we don’t see her. Now Aqua’s keyblade and armor we know to be in Radiant Garden in Xehanorts secret lab. Yet she is missing. Now from what we have seen in Kingdom Hearts 1 and from a video in the FM we know Sora has a good memory. It think it is odd however that he doesn’t remember his parents carrying keyblades. Hell he doesn’t even know what a keyblade is until Leon explains it to him in Traverse Town. You would think he would at least remember his parents having big keys and suits of full-plate mail in the house. I mean they aren’t something you just hide in a closet and say it’s a Halloween costume. Also I think Terra at some point would have recognized his own son in their fight in KH2 FM. Like Nomura said there is a connection between them, however it’s not blood.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 11:57 am 103. some random prsion
i caint wait for the new psp titel to come out and aother game that i think well probly see earlyr is finale fanticy VII crises core witch looks amazing to.
on 28 Oct 2007 at 10:00 pm 104. black heart
I suppose your right, but one can only come up with answers, but it is possible that Terra never told him, he also might not have had the armor yet, and as far as losing his memories go, it might be similar to what Namine did to sora in chain of memories; and this has been bugging me for some time, terra’s eyes change at the end of bbs, so does it mean he possibly has an anti form?
on 28 Oct 2007 at 10:03 pm 105. black heart
And for the keyblade, it might be possible that Terra never summoned it around anyone on the islands, or tell anyone for that matter, and for sora’s mom, you said we never see her, so it does in a way make sense that aqua could be his mother.
on 29 Oct 2007 at 7:28 am 106. Riku Omnitrix
Sora’s mother appear in KH1 when she says Sora [the dinner..]or something else.. so aqua isn’t sora’s mum
on 29 Oct 2007 at 12:37 pm 107. Ventus
Birth By Sleep takes place 10 years before kh 1 so that means sora will be 4 not 5 and riku would be 5 and kairi would be 4 but probably hasnt even found herself at destiny islands when this takes place
on 29 Oct 2007 at 5:34 pm 108. Black Heart
We only hear his mom, we never see her, so it is highly possible. She only say’s, “Sora, dinner’s ready. Sora?”
on 29 Oct 2007 at 5:40 pm 109. #2 Leader Dragon Rider KH Gamer®
black heart? my revenge will be complete!!!
SUD ATTACK!!
on 29 Oct 2007 at 5:43 pm 110. Black Heart
dude. what the hell?
on 29 Oct 2007 at 5:59 pm 111. Black Heart
Dude, seriously, if you have a problem with me then say so, sitting there at your computer saying random stuff, which pisses me off a bit, wont solve anything.
on 29 Oct 2007 at 8:54 pm 112. monkey d. luffy
aye have u eva thought dat roxas real name is ven? before xemnas gave him a new name?
on 29 Oct 2007 at 9:28 pm 113. Tazimus Prime
monkey d. luffy: A first of Ven is not Ven’s real name. Nomura has said that it is just a nickname. Also Roxas didn’t come into being until Sora got turned back into a human by Kairi in KH1. In KH2 FM you see Xemnas give Roxas his name. The name Sora appears and letters start roatating around him until Xemnas stops them with the X and thus the name is given to him. So Ven and Roxas are not the same person.
on 29 Oct 2007 at 9:32 pm 114. Xemkis
hey khg
on 29 Oct 2007 at 9:35 pm 115. rorono zolo
whats going on everybody?
on 29 Oct 2007 at 9:35 pm 116. xemkis
nothing
on 29 Oct 2007 at 11:40 pm 117. black heart
Monkey D Luffy, how stupid are you, roxas is sora’s nobody, roxas didnt even exist in ven, aqua and terra’s time.
And another theory on Terra’s relation to sora, is terra sora and riku’s guardian?
on 30 Oct 2007 at 12:50 am 118. soraowns123
guys dont call him stupid i think thats a pretty good theory cuz that could have been roxas in a previous life
on 30 Oct 2007 at 4:00 am 119. ultimaoblivion
don’t forget there always has to be a heartless, nobody, chaser, and human keyblade wielder
on 30 Oct 2007 at 1:46 pm 120. black heart
Dude, how can roxas have been ven in a prievious life, roxas was born the moment sora turned into a heartless, and another thing, chasers are more likely something thats new, not something similar to a heartless or nobody.
on 31 Oct 2007 at 11:02 pm 121. bluekingdom
but axel got wiped out in cain of memoris or kingdom hearts final mix and he still came back didnt he.aparntly Aqua is Rikus mother, not shure but still, before king hearts whatwas there, because Master Xehanort seems to be able to split himself at will into his heartless and work with it, witch obouslys tells us he is very powerfull
on 01 Nov 2007 at 2:08 am 122. black heart
say that again more clearly, it’s hard trying to decipher what you said.
on 01 Nov 2007 at 4:25 am 123. Tazimus Prime
bluekingdom: No Axel did not die in Chain of Memories, which is the game you’re thinking of. Aqua is not Riku’s mother.
on 02 Nov 2007 at 2:44 pm 124. Albhedhq
Its funny to read how totally wrong some of you guys are, the most annoying are of course the one’s that post their thoughts without thinking them through, obviously Ven, Aqua and Terra are not who most people say they are…
You’ll be surprised to find out the true story behind Birth By Sleep eventually..
For now, lets all wait and see what the news brings us!
Cheers,
Neela
on 02 Nov 2007 at 6:08 pm 125. black heart
It’s not like you even know the story, none of us do so dont act like your the only one who knows the story.
on 02 Nov 2007 at 11:46 pm 126. kh_ftw?
imma buy a psp for it its 10000% worth it i already have a DS and i gonne get the japanese version even if i dont understand it lol but i buy it whatever console it comes on and imma buy the console with it if i dont have it
on 03 Nov 2007 at 1:33 pm 127. Albhedhq
Dear Blackheart,
Of course i don’t know the story..
I wish i did…
I’m just saying that we’ll all be surprised to find out what the story truly is…
No need to get into defense mode.
Greetings,
Neela
on 05 Nov 2007 at 4:32 am 128. Riku5X5
I can’t wait to find out what the release date on these games are! Birth by sleep looks so awesome.
And Aqua Could totally be Riku’s mother, so don’t act like such a know it all ass, Tazimus Prime
on 05 Nov 2007 at 7:35 am 129. Riku Omnitrix
maybe aqua is the organi. member XIV becouse i read in internet:aqua use the power of darkness how riku. and in a video of KHFinal mix 2 i see aqua’s armor(knight) and another org. member(Xenmas?)
on 05 Nov 2007 at 8:03 am 130. Riku Omnitrix
w lola’Kairi’ and riku i love lor. ber.
on 05 Nov 2007 at 9:02 am 131. Roxas Friend
I think roxas is ven’s soul thats why they have the same shape
on 05 Nov 2007 at 6:28 pm 132. black heart
Roxas cant be ven because roxas was born from sora; again, the moment sora became a heartless, roxas was born. And its cool that some people here think that the new characters are blood related to the originals, but Nomura did in fact say they arent; however, it is the way of some people to give false leads; im not saying he lied im just saying its a possibility.
on 05 Nov 2007 at 11:46 pm 133. bob barton
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on 06 Nov 2007 at 12:44 am 136. ultimaoblivion
Black heart you are right.roxas is a split persom between sora and the nobodies. riku is the darkside of the keyblade while roxas is the twilight. the split person of the older xehonort is equal to the darkside of riku. kairi is the middle of the door to darkness, door to light, kingdom hearts, and the keyblade wielders. when you see the secret ending of kingdom hearts 2 put the phrases backwards and you’ll understand.shut eyes gives birth to concealed fate means the blink of an eye can make a difference. it’s the start of the bridge of evil. but from the beginning of time the evil builds until it collapses.
on 06 Nov 2007 at 7:54 am 137. Albhedhq
Oew, that sounds/sounded so very well thought trough…
But yes, in NO way is Ven directly or indirectly linked to Sora or Roxas as many of us (are lead to) believe..
And, NO, Aqua is not directly or indirectly linked to Kairi or Rikue either, Especially the “She’s Riku’s Mother..” And i’m not even saying this because they obviously lack any visible resemblance at all…
Like Blackheart stated, Square-Enix’ Nomura said they won’t have anything to do with them in that sense…
I’d also like to point out to “Roxas Friend” that, there’s only The Heartless and The Nobody, the Soul is stored inside one’s Nobody… It does not make up a “Species” of its own.
My greetings,
Neela
on 06 Nov 2007 at 10:55 pm 138. Tazimus Prime
Now I know where all of this is coming, but there is no blood relations between the knights and Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Nomura said that the knights have connections to characters in the series. Now had that connection been a blood relationship I’m pretty sure Nomura would have said that the knights are relate to Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Instead he said connection. Now we know that Nomura has hinted that there is a reason why Ven and Roxas look alike, but the odds of Roxas being Ven reincarnated or Sora having Ven’s heart is slim to none. The reasons being that Sora is 4 years old when Birth by Sleep happens. Now we know Ven is short for Ventus which means wind in latin, and Sora is short for sky japanese. So there is a connection there. Of course the same applies for the other knights and characters too. Terra meaning Earth, Riku meaning land, Aqua meaning water, and Kairi meaning Ocean. Now here is something interesting Riku means land and land is where you’ll find earth. Kairi means ocean and the ocean is where you’ll find water. Sora means sky and the sky is where you’ll wind. Also, oddly enough, Aqua’s armor and keyblade are in Radiant Garden which is where Kairi is from. Now there are some problems with the connections. In “The Gathering” Terra picks up Sora’s Keyblade and Ven picks up Riku’s. Aqua picks up King Micky’s too. Now this is explained in Kingdom Hearts 1 and Nomura interviews by the fact that Riku was suppose to receive the the keyblade and not Sora, but Riku gave his heart to darkness the night he would have received it and so it went to Sora instead. Now just before the Terra Boss fight in KH2 FM Terra tells Sora that he (Sora) isn’t the one he (Terra) chose. Thus mistaking Sora for Xehanort and attacking him. Now I believe that Terra was the one that chose Riku to wield the keyblade. Now Nomura has stated that there are more keyblade wielders out there, just that the keylbade requires a particularly strong hearted individual to wield it. We know this is true because of the existence of Master Xehanort and his apprentice and of King Micky. Now I think that the connection between Terra, Ven, and Aqua is that Sora, Riku, and Kairi will replace them has keyblade wielders or something to that effect anyways.
on 07 Nov 2007 at 7:05 am 139. Sora
uhmmm… im getting more and more confused…
what was that again??
on 07 Nov 2007 at 7:10 am 140. Sora
what i know is….
“Sora and Roxas.. are connected….
But they are not one person…”
on 07 Nov 2007 at 6:38 pm 141. black heart
In a sense they are because roxas is “half of sora” as what DIZ said.
on 08 Nov 2007 at 10:00 pm 142. Jeshika
aww..Roxas!! he is my fav.. it is good to see him again >
on 08 Nov 2007 at 10:14 pm 143. ThatNobody
heyy guys cant wait till it comes out… apparently in early 2009 in UK…. ut earlier in Japan and America :O
hate it when evrytings later on in the UK. Story seems interesting….
on 08 Nov 2007 at 10:16 pm 144. ThatNobody
does anyone know WHY all the games are on completely RANDOM consoles….
Weird… but im getting a psp for the game soon… AND a ds…for the other 1
on 08 Nov 2007 at 10:37 pm 145. ThatNobody
plus does anyone know if Jesse still plays Ven?
???!!!??
I know its a random Q….
on 09 Nov 2007 at 2:09 am 146. Oblivion Roxas
i need a psp
does anyone know were i can get one cheap
on 09 Nov 2007 at 5:06 am 147. ultimaoblivion
i don’t need any sytems. i have a playstation 3, nintendo wii, xbox 360,psp,ds,laptop. toobad guys
on 09 Nov 2007 at 7:41 am 148. ThatNobody
aww ultimaoblivion your lucky…
I dno wer you can get it cheap tho… if you find out plz post it
on 09 Nov 2007 at 7:43 am 149. ThatNobody
AND i need a ps3…
but thats later on rite…
on 09 Nov 2007 at 11:01 am 150. ThatNobody
so is roxas a part of ven??
on 09 Nov 2007 at 9:54 pm 151. ThatNobody
not Ven I ment Terra…
Well the one tht looks liek Roxas
on 09 Nov 2007 at 10:53 pm 152. Tazimus Prime
ThatNobody: You had it right the first time. Ven is the one that looks like Roxas. Now we really don’t know the connection between Ven and Roxas yet because that is something that is going to be revealed in the game. We do know that Ven and Roxas are not the same person. Well also know that Ven has never before appeared in any of the KH games. We also know that Roxas is Sora’s nobody, but was created under different circumstances then a normal Nobody.
on 09 Nov 2007 at 11:08 pm 153. ThatNobody
ohhh i see
i thought cos no one replied i got the wrong one….
yeee i jus hope it comes out fast…
on 09 Nov 2007 at 11:15 pm 154. ThatNobody
So MAYBE Ven looking like roxas is just a coincidence?
Or does anyone think theres more to it. It doesnt seem like they would do that randomley…
on 10 Nov 2007 at 3:43 am 155. ultimaoblivion
i am getting a oblivion weapon keyblade. too bad everybody.
on 10 Nov 2007 at 7:26 am 156. Tazimus Prime
ThatNobody: Nomura has hinted that there is more to it, but we can only speculate at this time.
on 10 Nov 2007 at 4:24 pm 157. sora soldier
can someone tell me what bbs coded and 358/2 days is all about im getting lost
on 10 Nov 2007 at 4:28 pm 158. sora soldier
when does brith by sleep comeout come on prime you got to know this please help me Im desprate.
on 10 Nov 2007 at 4:45 pm 159. Tazimus Prime
sora soldier: Birth by Sleep will be released on the PSP. It will be about three apprentice keyblade wielders are sent to retrieve a master keyblade wielder named Master Xehanort and his apprentice who disappearance is said to be a sign of a great disaster. This game will be released after 358/2 Days and Coded. It will probably be about late 2008 or early 2009. That is the best I got right now.
on 10 Nov 2007 at 4:49 pm 160. Tazimus Prime
sora soldier: I completely forgot to mention Coded and 358/2 Days. 358/2 Days is about Roxas’ time with the Organization. Coded is about an event after KH2 in which King Micky digitizes one Jiminy Cricket’s journals and uses a virtual Sora to unlock it’s secrets. During the course of the game you will learn what King Micky was doing in KH1.
on 11 Nov 2007 at 1:42 am 161. ultimaoblivion
i have the kingdom hearts final mix+ on my zune. i can explain it. the secret ending is probably a dream. xehanort splits into nobody and heartless. xehanort and his heartless form try to kill or prolong terra, ven, and aqua. because xehanort after the battle opens kingdom hearts. xehanort and his heartless use air to use the keyblades to srike them. ven and terra have some connection because they always work together. xehanort uses blizzaga on aqua. xehanort grabs and crushes ven and he cries to terra for help. then xehanort aborbs ven’s power darkening him then freezes ven.and terra saves whatsleft of ven. then xehanort takes ven’s power and opens up kingdom hearts. then he rises to it. then aqua’s eyes turn from blue to orange.that’s probably why terra says please dont depend on me just erase me.
on 11 Nov 2007 at 4:51 am 162. SoraXIII
Ven aqua and terra are the heros ven and aqua have something with eachother one or more of the characters will be related also its ten years in the past
on 11 Nov 2007 at 9:52 am 163. Tazimus Prime
ultimaoblivion: You got Terra and Aqua mixed up. Terra is the tall brown haired keyblade wielding male. Aqua is the blue haired female. Also that person with Master Xehanort is his apprentice.
on 11 Nov 2007 at 12:35 pm 164. ThatNobody
awesome.. i havent got FM but i do know what happens(friends got it)
When does the earliest game come out? does anyone have the date or the month?
on 11 Nov 2007 at 1:37 pm 165. Oblivion Roxas
do you need a different ps2 for FM
on 11 Nov 2007 at 4:00 pm 166. ThatNobody
yeh i noo my friend;s brother does summink with the disk so you can play it on a PS2 UK pal…
on 11 Nov 2007 at 4:08 pm 167. sora soldier
Tazimus prime If Aqua,VEN and,TERRA are apprentinces than who is thier master? why are they serching for xahnort , is he evil ? what happend to ven? also why do the aprentinces names refer to a element? why are they in that aromor is some kind of group ? why does ven look like roxas? HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
on 11 Nov 2007 at 6:36 pm 168. sora soldier
TAZIMUS PRIME THAT MAKES A LOT OF SIENCE PLEASE TELL ME WERE YOU GET THIS INFO FROM. I ALMOST FROGOT HAS ANY ONE NOTICED SORA IS IN THE WORD ROXAS.
on 11 Nov 2007 at 6:39 pm 169. sora soldier
Does this mean that kiari will get a keyblde.
on 13 Nov 2007 at 4:47 pm 170. ThatNobody
MAYBE no-one knows for sure….
on 13 Nov 2007 at 11:22 pm 171. king mickey
Tazmius i recall you saying to sora soldier that birth by sleep is coming out late next year well actualy it is coming out in march 2008 but you probably are right cuz kingdom hearts is always delaying there games (lolz) no offense kh. But anyway mif you have io cable or can go to chanel 175 on you tv then watch some g4. Or go to http://www.g4.com
on 13 Nov 2007 at 11:28 pm 172. king mickey
Sora soldier i can answer your question you see actualy tazmius Xenhort is evil don’t you remember mickey jumping toward him in anger after goofy got hit in the head with that rock. Also you said you were wondering why there names represent something the thing is everyone in japans name epresents something. In the hit anime series naruto sauske means ninja warior. Sakura means bloom or something. And well yeah.
on 13 Nov 2007 at 11:31 pm 173. king mickey
And one last thing before i go tazmius how can you say xhenhort is good if venn,terra, and aqua are going to fight him in kh2fm trailer. Unless he’s a phyco training his students. That freezes his student venn and their master wants to take over kingdom hearts. Or maybe they were just playing a dramatic game i dont know lol
on 13 Nov 2007 at 11:32 pm 174. king mickey
And one last thing before i go tazmius how can you say xhenhort is good if venn,terra, and aqua are going to fight him in kh2fm trailer. Unless he’s a phyco training his students. That freezes his student venn and their master wants to take over kingdom hearts. Or maybe they were just playing a dramatic game i dont know lol.
on 14 Nov 2007 at 2:06 am 175. dimand dust xd 2000
I think i know what’s going to happen I say that ven and roxas are the same people think about it when you go into castle oblivion which ven probably did you start losing your memories so while namine started destroying ven’s true identity she started making up roxas so in the first secret trailer about birth by sleep when it says (one legend says the key bearer saved the land another says he brought chaos upon it.) it’s refering to roxas when he started getting hearts for xehenort he was awakening kingdom hearts for a bad cause and the legend is when ven was protecting kingdom hearts.
on 14 Nov 2007 at 2:07 am 176. dimand dust xd 2000
I think i know what’s going to happen I say that ven and roxas are the same people think about it when you go into castle oblivion which ven probably did you start losing your memories so while namine started destroying ven’s true identity she started making up roxas so in the first secret trailer about birth by sleep when it says (one legend says the key bearer saved the land another says he brought chaos upon it.) it’s refering to roxas when he started getting hearts for xehenort he was awakening kingdom hearts for a bad cause and the other legend is when ven was protecting kingdom hearts.
on 14 Nov 2007 at 3:01 am 177. Tazimus Prime
king mickey: When did I say Xehanort was good?
dimand dust xd 2000: First, Nomura has already said specifically that Nomura Roxas wasn’t Ven. Secondly Ven existed ten years before Roxas did. So they aren’t even the same age. Heck Ven existed ten years before Namine. So there is no way that could happen.
on 14 Nov 2007 at 1:47 pm 178. ThatNobody
kwl…
on 14 Nov 2007 at 2:01 pm 179. ThatNobody
i jus realised summink
i read this on a forum: “In KH1 sora has flashbacks of places that hes never seen(before Hollow Bastion)So Roxas and Ven looking liek eachother ISNt a coincidence rite…”
What does any one make of this
on 14 Nov 2007 at 2:02 pm 180. ThatNobody
cos they sed tht roxas WAS ment to be born… something like tht….
on 14 Nov 2007 at 2:03 pm 181. ThatNobody
**Traverse town”
on 14 Nov 2007 at 6:02 pm 182. Tazimus Prime
ThatNobody: Those flash backs in KH1 were from Kairi’s past. He was having them because he had Kairi’ heart.
on 15 Nov 2007 at 1:13 am 183. Sora_lover
Ven, Terra and Aqua,are they nobodys of Sora, Kairi and Riku?this kind of stuff always confuses me.
on 15 Nov 2007 at 1:36 am 184. Tazimus Prime
No they are completely new characters set in game that take place ten years before Kingdom Hearts 1.
on 15 Nov 2007 at 9:09 pm 185. ThatNobody
ohh is see, it was obvious in the game, the perosn who posted it seemed like a bit of a loony…
oh wel..
on 16 Nov 2007 at 3:52 am 186. carlos
disregard this if you want but isnt it supposed to be 14 years because sora was 14yr at kh1???
on 16 Nov 2007 at 2:24 pm 187. black heart
it takes place ten years before sora; also, when Nomura said that the new characters have some relation to eachother,is it possible that Terra,ven and Aqua are Sora, Riku, and Kairi’s guardians or something? Its a possibility thats been going through my head for a while now.
on 16 Nov 2007 at 10:29 pm 188. Sora's friend
HOW ABOUT WE WAIT UNTIL THE GAME OR THE TRUE STORY COMES UOT IN STORES, AND WE’ll
SEE FOR SHURE WHAT REALY HAPPENED AND WHATS REALY GOING ON!
on 16 Nov 2007 at 10:30 pm 189. Sora's friend
HOW ABOUT WE WAIT UNTIL THE GAME OR THE TRUE STORY COMES out IN STORES, AND WE’ll
SEE FOR SHURE WHAT REALY HAPPENED AND WHATS REALY GOING ON!
on 17 Nov 2007 at 6:35 am 190. basileio ths kardias
i hope birth by sleep to come to europe and america(gia na mhn stenoxorieste)
on 17 Nov 2007 at 7:36 pm 191. dimand dust xd 2000
hey tazimus prime thanks for the update but you have to admit that was prtty clever of me.=)
on 17 Nov 2007 at 11:26 pm 192. NeoHeartless
well now, just for you guys amusement, read carefully. In all my years of reading manga, i’ve learned that when one of them is popular, they tend to become an anime series. So boys and girls, it seems now that the KH manga series has become quite popular in japan, it seems they are deciding to make it into a series in a year or two…. to see Kiari in an anime… my dream is gonna come to true.. tears trickling*
on 18 Nov 2007 at 3:17 am 193. kingdom hearts ROX
when does it come out?
on 18 Nov 2007 at 5:56 am 194. Tazimus Prime
There is not going to be a Kingdom Hearts anime. There is only the mange, novels, video games, cards, and soundtracks. There isn’t even talks of an anime series because Disney owns all the character rights. It goes along the lines of what Nomura said about the Kingdom Hearts movie, Disney doesn’t want to do a anime about Kingdom Hearts.
on 18 Nov 2007 at 2:12 pm 195. dimand dust xd 2000
i’m geting extremely mad i don’t understand how roxas and ven cannot be the same people they look way to much alike. PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION
on 18 Nov 2007 at 8:23 pm 196. Tazimus Prime
dimand dust xd 2000: Because the simple fact is Tetsuya Nomura said so. They cannot be the same person because the creator of the games said so. You can’t get a more basic answer then that. Now when the game comes out in Japan I pretty sure after a few days someone will put something on wikipedia and give you a better reason as to why they look alike and are not the same person, but until then that is what we have.
on 18 Nov 2007 at 11:41 pm 197. Your mom
who can give me a PSP????
Send it to … please!!!!
on 19 Nov 2007 at 12:25 am 198. DVDHRNSS
Just to say, you people are stupid in this kingdom hearts buisness! I mean it’s simple! Just get a copy of all 3 games and try to understand.
on 19 Nov 2007 at 12:27 am 199. DVDHRNSS
Sora_Lover, Roxas is Sora’s nobody so Terra, Ven, or Aqua can be Sora’s nobody.
on 19 Nov 2007 at 1:15 am 200. Your mom
Sorry
Send it to juarez city in mexico.
Nearest mexican city to el paso texas.
in the school san patricio
on 19 Nov 2007 at 1:17 am 201. another someone
you are all @#$%&*
on 19 Nov 2007 at 1:21 am 202. another someone
The ones with elemental names are completely new and aren’t nobodies nor heartless.
Simple keyblade aprrentices.
Get it people.
on 20 Nov 2007 at 2:16 am 203. dimand dust xd 2000
lately i’ve been trying to find some more info on the new kh games and one person said on a websie that sora is killed by riku because riku go’s back under cntrol of xenhort sounds stupid dosn’t it’s abunch of bull if you ask me i mean sora die c’mon he’s already given up his hurt and lived through that and the darkness i doubt it highly. anybody agree.
on 20 Nov 2007 at 9:37 pm 204. ThatNobody
EXACTLY!…
on 21 Nov 2007 at 12:24 am 205. DVDHRNSS
It’s obvious that Sora wont die because it will risk the kingdom hearts series
on 21 Nov 2007 at 4:33 am 206. kyle bananas
is birth by sleep only 4 psp?
on 21 Nov 2007 at 5:07 pm 207. Ruri
I heard that it was going to be releasted on multiple systems. Is it true and if it is, will com eout on the PS2?
on 21 Nov 2007 at 8:45 pm 208. just somebody
Uhh….last time I checked, sora meant sky, not air
on 21 Nov 2007 at 9:21 pm 209. dimand dust xd 2000
hey, read this everybody i say aqua and ven are sora’s parents and after what happened to ven (when he get’s crystalizied)she doesn’t want sora to be hurt so she sends sora to destiny islands to be raised by her friend.
on 22 Nov 2007 at 8:59 am 210. Tazimus Prime
dimand dust xd 2000: Yeah got to disagree with you there. Honestly Sora would be 4 years old when this occurs and as we saw in Kingdom Hearts 1 he has a very good memory. Also how would they explain the fact that Ven, who appears to be roughly the same age as Sora is now, is father. Also Aqua being Sora’s mother make absolutely no sense either. Also that would only raise more question has where is Sora truly from and why is Ven, who looks to be 15, having a child with a woman that seems to be older then him.
on 22 Nov 2007 at 12:58 pm 211. dimand dust xd 2000
well tazimus prime i saythis because this explains why roxas and he look so much alike besides we have no age confirmantions quite yet for all we care they could be 20 and besides this could be true nomara said to keep guessing so this is my guess.
on 22 Nov 2007 at 2:29 pm 212. zro #20
Hi all
Wat’s KHFM+?
on 22 Nov 2007 at 9:45 pm 213. Tazimus Prime
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix is a Japan only release of Kingdom Hearts 1 with all the extras the American version got along with a few new cut scenes, two new keyblades, different coloring for enemies, a couple of new enemies, and an extra Boss against the Enigmatic Man which was really Xemnas.
Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix + is Japan only release of Kingdom Hearts 2 with extra cut scenes, new enemies, new Gumi ship missions, new side quest, extra bosses which include every single member of the Organization and the Enigmatic Soldier, and two new keyblades. It also comes with a PS2 version of Chain of Memories which has enhanced graphics and new cut scenes. Once again the English voice acting is present in this game. Alas, unlike the previous Final Mix which included mostly extras we got with our version of Kingdom Hearts 1, our Kingdom Hearts 2 was exactly the same as the Japanese version. So they get the Final Mix version while we sit by and wish they would release it in overseas market.
on 22 Nov 2007 at 11:29 pm 214. Jean-Francois
is it possible that Ven might be Sora’s dad? and Terra Riku’s? because the three of them are together in the game (terra, ven, and aqua) and in the kh 1 & 2 riku,sora, and kairi were just randomly on the island from the start and can use the keyblade
on 23 Nov 2007 at 4:25 pm 215. ThatNobody
?
on 23 Nov 2007 at 4:37 pm 216. Tazimus Prime
Jean-Francois: They are not the parents of Sora and Riku. First Nomura hasn’t explained the fact that Kairi was given a keyblade in Kingdom Hearts 2. Let’s not forget that Kairi is a special case and that she was given the keyblade by Riku instead of it appearing out of nowhere like Riku’s and Sora’s did. Plus it could be just something she can do because she is a Princess of Heart. Second I really don’t think Ven is Sora’s father because Ven seems to be roughly the same age as Sora and Sora is 15. So I don’t think Square or Disney is going to go into why an under age teen in a game gear towards kids is the father of a 4 year old boy at this point in time. Remember Sora and Riku are 4 and 5 at this time. So it would be kind of strange to have underage teens as parents in a Disney game.
on 23 Nov 2007 at 5:02 pm 217. Sora Rules
hello?
on 23 Nov 2007 at 5:40 pm 218. varXtis
Okay, I’m kind of curious where the whole “age” thing comes from. Has there been any indisputable facts regarding the exact time frame the “Birth by Sleep” story takes place? Don’t get me wrong. . . I’m just making sure I didn’t miss a major reference to Sora and Riku’s ages.
on 23 Nov 2007 at 7:43 pm 219. Tazimus Prime
varXtis: Let’s start with the trailer that clearly shows a young Sora and Riku in the background playing on the beach. However they age is not verified by that. However in a Famitsu interview about Birth by Sleep Tetsuya Nomura reveals that it does in fact place ten years in the past. Now if you read the description of Sora in the Kingdom Hearts 1 manual it clearly states he is 14. Then all it is simple math.
14-10=4
So there you go.
on 24 Nov 2007 at 2:19 am 220. Di
Hi, I was just wondering if BECAUSE they say it will be released on PSP, does this mean it is not going to be on PS2 ASWELL? ONLY psp? =[
on 24 Nov 2007 at 4:50 am 221. Tazimus Prime
Only PSP
on 24 Nov 2007 at 8:26 pm 222. Roxaskun
I was wondering if sombody could help me understand somethings like is ven related to sora and is aqau part of the organization and why people have seid aqau passing a keyblade down to micky i dident know you could pass down a key blade so if sombody could help me understands some of these things it would be awsome ^_^
on 24 Nov 2007 at 8:30 pm 223. Roxaskun
or if there is something i can watch on youtube to help me understand
thanks for the help
on 24 Nov 2007 at 11:53 pm 224. BrinKofDawN
I’ve thought about this for a while and after reading alot of people’s opinions about the story for Birth by Sleep it seems pretty obvious that this is meant to really mess with our minds. Anywho I have my own theory. The 3 keyblade wielders Ven, Terra, and Aqua could be the true keyblade masters along with Xehanort and his apprentice, but what if the old guy is the real Xehanort and the Ansem/Xemnas stole his name too because, if you think about it, when Ansem the Wise found him he had no memory but was able to remember Xehanort. What if he stole that name too? Also Ven, the guy that looks like Roxas, most likely is Roxas cus they look too much alike.
on 25 Nov 2007 at 12:21 am 225. BrinKofDawN
I don’t know how Aqua is tied to any of the KH characters (or if she even is) or the tie between Terra and Sora but they do look alot alike. I really think Ven is Roxas but Birth by Sleep took place before the 1st KH. Hmmm……maybe there’s a paradox between Roxas and Ven that ties to Sora.
on 25 Nov 2007 at 6:18 am 226. Ace of Diamonds
The only connection we know as of right now is that Aqua means Water and Kairi means Ocean, so she has some connection Kairi. That’s all we do know anyway.
If anything, I say Terra resembles Sora a little bit.
I think Ven and Roxas are the same, but nothing has been confirmed. We have to wait until the game comes out.
on 25 Nov 2007 at 7:40 pm 227. DVDHRNSS
NO!!! Terra and Riku are conected and Ven and Sora are conected! if you knew the meaning of riku, ven, sora, and terra you would know!
on 25 Nov 2007 at 7:44 pm 228. DVDHRNSS
BrinKofDawN, NO!!!!! Ven isn’t Roxas, its just that he is related to Sora!!!Roxas is Sora’s nobody so he must look like someone or other close to sora! Like Xeohnort, Xemnas, and “Ansem” (Xeohnort’s Heartless).
on 25 Nov 2007 at 7:47 pm 229. DVDHRNSS
Roxaskun, Aqua is NOT part of the Orginization, she is just related to Kairi.
on 25 Nov 2007 at 7:51 pm 230. DVDHRNSS
Tazimus prime, the engimatic soldier ing kh2 final mix is Terra NOT Xemnas, however the misterious enemy i n kh1 fimal mix at hollow bastion IS Xemnas.
on 25 Nov 2007 at 7:58 pm 231. DVDHRNSS
I know everything of the kingdom hearts series exept release dates so ask away!
on 26 Nov 2007 at 4:53 am 232. Rickie
IS A KINGDOM HEARTS MOVIE GOING TO BE MADE?
on 26 Nov 2007 at 6:32 pm 233. Tazimus Prime
DVDHRNSS: I never said the Enigmatic Soldier was Xemnas. I know it’s Terra. I said the Enigmatic Man was Xemnas, which he is.
on 26 Nov 2007 at 6:34 pm 234. Tazimus Prime
Rickie: No the Kingdom Hearts Movie is not going to get made any time soon. See Disney does not want to make a Kingdom Hearts movie at this time. Since Disney owns the rights to all Kingdom Hearts characters, except the ones from the Final Fantasy games, and all the worlds they pretty have say ob what media the series gets released to.
on 26 Nov 2007 at 6:36 pm 235. Tazimus Prime
Rickie: No the Kingdom Hearts Movie is not going to get made any time soon. See Disney does not want to make a Kingdom Hearts movie at this time. Since Disney owns the rights to all Kingdom Hearts characters, except the ones from the Final Fantasy games, and all the worlds they pretty ^much have ^the say *on what media the series gets released to.
(sorry had to correct a few things)
on 26 Nov 2007 at 8:41 pm 236. BrinKofDawN
Okay I see what you’re saying but it doesn’t make sense in Xehanort’s case. Yeah Xemnas and “Ansem” look like Ansem the Wise’s apprentice in KH2 but if the old guy is also Xehanort then isn’t that a bit wierd?
on 26 Nov 2007 at 8:50 pm 237. BrinKofDawN
I also have another idea: Maybe the Xehanort in KH2 and the old guy in the FM2 ending are two different Xehanorts. Maybe the apprentice to Ansem the Wise was once the apprentice to the “Master Xehanort” and, going by what I read above, is the dark figure that Terra battled and he somehow ended up with Ansem the Wise. idk exactly but yeah just a theory^^
on 26 Nov 2007 at 11:01 pm 238. Boss1991
Hey,
I’m not sure how the gameplay is going to work on the PSP, it worked with COM, however I doubt that it will work on PSP, it’s a shame that they decided to do this. The DS KH looks good, however I wish that they had implemented that gameplay on this game.
on 27 Nov 2007 at 11:56 pm 239. Ven
lolz most of you are allllll wrong
terra is not rikus dad… for one
thers no parents in kh
ven-roxas
terra-sora
aqua-???? or its kairi
xenhort or wutever is the bald guy
lolz ace of diamonds your a F@GGOT lolz
ven resembling sora YEAH OK… hes identical to roxas in the face and body but YEP HE RESEMBLES SORA
o yea someone was on WEE-D
on 28 Nov 2007 at 1:02 am 240. Kairi(^-^)
i think that there gonna be interesting games….
on 28 Nov 2007 at 11:57 pm 241. matt
it sounds cool
on 29 Nov 2007 at 5:14 am 242. BrinKofDawN
Same here. I just don’t like how they have to make THREE games on all DIFFERENT systems and only one of them really has to do with the general story to tell how KH3 will start. I guess I’m just afraid if I don’t play BBS that I’ll be lost in the story of KH3 like I was with KH2 cus I never played COM and I didn’t know wtf was going on!^^
on 29 Nov 2007 at 9:40 pm 243. DVDHRNSS
oh, I just misunderstud…
on 29 Nov 2007 at 9:42 pm 244. DVDHRNSS
Brinkofdawn, your right, the two Xeohnorts are not alike or related.
on 29 Nov 2007 at 10:48 pm 245. Bo
BrinkofDawn: you’r right not playing Chain of Memories would have been confusing in Kingdom Hearts 2. I’d definately play this whether i have to buy a PSP or just borrow a friends
on 30 Nov 2007 at 8:12 pm 246. Xela
Just so u Know u get to play as all three chracters in the game Ven, Terra, Aqua
on 30 Nov 2007 at 9:49 pm 247. KH KING
ummmmmmm does anyone hav some sort of a guess of wen this game will be released a year a month idk someone help me
on 30 Nov 2007 at 9:51 pm 248. kh king
does anyone no about this release date if so speak up now!
on 30 Nov 2007 at 9:52 pm 249. kh king
sry i jus uncapitalized my name
on 01 Dec 2007 at 12:10 am 250. Xela
Ok, 1.why did u uncapitalized ur name 2. the game comes out next year
on 02 Dec 2007 at 4:11 am 251. Mr...
i love you
on 02 Dec 2007 at 2:39 pm 252. Xela
Who do u love?
on 02 Dec 2007 at 9:49 pm 253. kh king
i can uncapitalize my name if i want to and thx for the info
on 03 Dec 2007 at 10:57 am 254. A.Dot
Whats godd my fellow gamers..
I just want to say that i think that you all are special in your own way
Even though people might not think that
I LOVEE YOU ALL
You all are my SPECIAL ONES
Take care off your beautiful selves
May god be with you
Peace out
on 03 Dec 2007 at 10:58 am 255. ThatNobody
HAH friends being retarded….soz bout tht…
on 03 Dec 2007 at 8:45 pm 256. BrinKofDawN
I also heard they were bringing the card battle system in COM back to BBS but in a different way. I’ve seen screenshots of the battles and they look pretty sick I just wanna know more of the story. I also have a hunch that we haven’t seen the last of the Organization XIII. Oh yeah in COM how did Zexion die cus I never played it.
on 03 Dec 2007 at 8:58 pm 257. Xela
Ok U can uncapitalized ur name and ur welcome (4 the info that is)
on 04 Dec 2007 at 6:16 am 258. Tazimus Prime
BrinKofDawN: Nomura has said that things have changed with the battle since those screen shots were taken. Also Organization XIII is done for. I mean come on, Sora, Riku, the Riku Replica (on the advice of Axel), and Axel killed every single member of the Organization except for Roxas and Axel. Roxas was reunited with Sora and Axel sacrificed himself. Oh and Zexion is one that the Riku replica kills. The only other member that could be left is the mysterious 14th member. So depending on how 358/2 Days goes depends on the possibility of it, which right now is looking slim to none.
on 04 Dec 2007 at 9:13 pm 259. DVDHRNSS
The 14th member dies in 358/2 Days.
on 04 Dec 2007 at 9:18 pm 260. Tazimus Prime
DVDHRNSS: What makes you think she dies?
on 05 Dec 2007 at 6:10 am 261. Kevin
where are you guys getting all this info? I haven’t even seen anything about the games since kh2 came out. Is Birth by sleep already out? I’m really lost.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 6:12 am 262. Kevin
oh, and how many games are out exactly? I have beaten the 1st and 2nd ones already, haven’t played chain of memories, and waiting on the third. I had no idea of the other titles untill just now.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 6:25 am 263. Tazimus Prime
Kevin: You can get most this info on this site. No Birth by Sleep is not out yet. Currently there is only 3 Kingdom Hearts games, 6 if you count each of the remakes. Birth by Sleep, 358/2 Days, and Coded haven’t been released yet.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 2:20 pm 264. Black Heart
First off…where the hell are you people getting this information? How is it even possible that there are 14 members in organization 13, thus the 13. No really, where do you come up with these theories?
on 05 Dec 2007 at 2:21 pm 265. Black Heart
First off…where the hell are you people getting this information? How is it even possible that there are 14 members in organization 13, thus the 13. No really, where do you come up with these theories? Honestly.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 3:17 pm 266. A.Dot
WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE IGNORING ME
IM SHARING MY FEELING HER!!
WHY DONT YOU CARE!!
I HAVE PROBLEMS AND IF I DONT FEEL.. WANTED
THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT I COULD DO
THIS IS MY LAST CHANCE TO MAKE FRIENDS
on 05 Dec 2007 at 3:27 pm 267. ThatNobody
. . .
on 05 Dec 2007 at 6:49 pm 268. Black Heart
Dude don’t be such a cry baby. And really, if anyone can answer my question, that would be greatly appreciated. If there were 14 members then it would be called organization 14 instead of 13…get it.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 8:42 pm 269. ThatNobody
I think people are just, guessing and if more than one person thinks that way, it sorta becomes bigger… Im really unsure of where this info comes from aswelll =S
But anyway …
on 05 Dec 2007 at 9:25 pm 270. DVDHRNSS
i have sources tazmis, try me!
on 05 Dec 2007 at 9:29 pm 271. DVDHRNSS
Black heart, look at this site!!!!! in the main menu section it has photos plus souces that i cannot reveal.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 9:55 pm 272. darkight654
alsome
on 05 Dec 2007 at 10:35 pm 273. Tazimus Prime
Most of the information comes interviews given by Tetsuya Nomura the director of all the Kingdom Hearts games.
on 06 Dec 2007 at 12:29 am 274. Tazimus Prime
DVDHRNSS: Ok I’ll start you off on an easy question. When are Aqua and Ven first mentioned by name?
on 06 Dec 2007 at 6:58 am 275. Kevin
well, I’m into kingdom hearts but i don’t get a chance to look all of this info up so feel free to give me all the updates you hear tazmis. if you want to, kkacdc9@sbcglobal.net is my email if you want to send it to me.
on 06 Dec 2007 at 1:29 pm 276. dennis
wann kommt das spiel auf playstation2 raus
on 06 Dec 2007 at 1:31 pm 277. dennis
jo wer deutsch ist und weiß wann kingdom hearts 3 für die playstation 2 rauskommt der mailt an dennis.Adamczyk@web.de
on 06 Dec 2007 at 6:43 pm 278. Black Heart
ok, but seriously, how can Aqua be the 14 member of organization 13? I mean, wouldnt it be called organization 14 if she was in it instead of 13? Also, does anyone know when this is coming out?
on 07 Dec 2007 at 3:24 pm 279. Nage
my god u people are just asking the same question over and over… there were 14 members of the organization. WERE! get the hint? she or one of the other people of that organization died. this is coming out for psp because this is not exactly kh3. no you cant play as sora. any other questions just look in the other sections of the comments cause im sure you will find the answer
on 09 Dec 2007 at 12:54 am 280. Angus
honestly,
this one looks like it will be my favorite kingdom heart game thus far
i just hope the battle sytle is different than COM
cuz im confused
i read the interview and they said they changed it
and the picture looks a lot like COM
and i dunno if thats the changed one or not
im just saying that as long at the battle system is different than COM
[cuz i hated the card system so much
it was frikken stupid in my opinion]
this will be my favorite so far
on 09 Dec 2007 at 4:14 am 281. dimand dust xd 2000
tazimus and DVDHRNSS quit fighting wen the game comes out 1 of u will be right so calm down
on 09 Dec 2007 at 10:06 pm 282. DVDHRNSS
Yeh, we should just use our superior kh minds to help the other lesser people.
on 09 Dec 2007 at 10:16 pm 283. Kellllay
Dude, this looks like thee best KH game out of the new 3 ones that are coming out.
I’m just happy that they’re not having any on PS3…wait, are they?
Yeah IDK. But I think one is.But the other two aren’t, and I have a PSP and DS.
Why not PS2? It’s much more convienant.
on 10 Dec 2007 at 6:40 am 284. Tazimus Prime
DVDHRNSS: Well said try me so I gave a question. It really doesn’t matter to me.
on 10 Dec 2007 at 8:54 pm 285. BrinKofDawN
I think it’s awesome how people ask when it comes out or if it’s even out yet^^ (sarcasm) One: if it was out, don’t you think you’d see it on the shelves of game stores. Two: if you’d read the later entries here and not be so damn lazy, maybe you’d figure out that no one knows yet cus it hasen’t been announced. Anywho I never knew there was a 14th member and I think it’s interesting. I wanna know what that old Xehanort’s keyblade is called it looks cool^^
on 11 Dec 2007 at 12:24 am 286. dimand dust xd 2000
thank u DVDHRNSS and tazimus u r both very mature
on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:56 am 287. Virso"the keyblade" master
Tetsuya Nomura is the best
on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:47 pm 288. leo
sora isnt going to die
on 14 Dec 2007 at 3:30 pm 289. Nage
i dont think either of you guys know that much about this game. your just bsing us with what you think the game “should” be like.
on 14 Dec 2007 at 10:19 pm 290. Joe_Keyblade
‘Kingdome Hearts Birth by Sleep.’ Cool! I like the trailer from Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix. Can anyone second the motion?
on 15 Dec 2007 at 1:48 am 291. dimand dust xd 2000
hey what if roxas is still alive because in kh2 he just got knocked out and fell to the ground so he might just be in the virtule twilight town
on 15 Dec 2007 at 3:13 am 292. DVDHRNSS
Roxas is Sora so he is technicly not alive but your statment dooesn’t make sence to me, tazmus do you get what he says?
on 15 Dec 2007 at 3:33 am 293. Tazimus Prime
dimand dust xd 2000: Nomura has commented on that before. When you get done playing as Roxas in Kingdom Hearts 2 he reunites with Sora. However if you remember the part of the ending when Riku and Sora return to Destiny Island you see Sora and Kairi turn into Roxas and Namine for a second. Well Nomura said that means that Roxas and Namine will live on inside Sora and Kairi, and thus not fade away into darkness like most nobodies.
on 15 Dec 2007 at 2:46 pm 294. dimand dust xd 2000
i guess ur right tazmus
on 15 Dec 2007 at 5:11 pm 295. DVDHRNSS
I get it now
on 15 Dec 2007 at 8:34 pm 296. Nage
you guys honestly didnt know that? did you even play the second game?
on 15 Dec 2007 at 11:47 pm 297. Narveid
Just to answer a guy further down, yes there will be a fighting system than CoM, but there will be a cardsystem. More advanced and better. Read Nomura interviews and you would know
on 16 Dec 2007 at 12:01 am 298. Narveid
a different fighting*
on 16 Dec 2007 at 12:14 am 299. Jenaynay
does anyone know where i can watch the video of this or of kingdom hearts 358/2 days?
on 16 Dec 2007 at 5:28 am 300. khULTIMA
hey when is this coming out?
on 16 Dec 2007 at 5:30 am 301. AROSORA
iz any1 thur?
on 16 Dec 2007 at 6:28 pm 302. Troy Hillman
Based on the can, this is my theory. The dude with the Black hair is either Terra, Zack (from Final Fantasy 7), or a young clone (or actual) Xehenort. “Master Xehenort” is actually an older Xehenort who took an older form and is either from a future in which Xehenort did not become a Heartless/Nobody, and Ven is actually Sora’s father, explaining why we see a young Sora and Riku being watched by Terra and Ven’s strong resemblance to Roxas/Sora. Or maybe all of these characters are the new forms that Nomura was talking about besides the Nobodies and Heartless.
on 17 Dec 2007 at 4:38 am 303. BrinKofDawN
I just think that old guy is the real Xehanort and the Xehanort in KH2 was his apprentice who somehow lost his memory but remembered only that name and took it as his own (like his Heartless did with Ansem). That just my theory. Does anyone know where I can find the interview with Nomura?
on 17 Dec 2007 at 4:32 pm 304. ThatNobody
“Or maybe all of these characters are the new forms that Nomura was talking about besides the Nobodies and Heartless.”
Tht seems gd but i doubt it would cos, theres already nobodies AND heartless, what would the other form be called???
on 18 Dec 2007 at 5:15 am 305. Tazimus Prime
Actually Nomura has stated that the enemy for Birth by Sleep will not be Heartless or Nobody. Heartless and Nobodies didn’t exist ten years ago according to him. These are the original enemy, according to Nomura.
on 18 Dec 2007 at 7:50 am 306. King of Hearts
Is anybody on?
on 19 Dec 2007 at 12:54 am 307. voodooabc
i heard the race was called memories there all red
on 19 Dec 2007 at 12:55 am 308. voodooabc
i also heard they are called souless and pureblood and emblems(i bet not)
on 19 Dec 2007 at 12:57 am 309. voodooabc
i bet the old guy is xhenort who else would be so strong
on 19 Dec 2007 at 6:44 am 310. Another LoverOfTheGame
This game needs to come out on PS2 or PS3. Not PSP. I wanna play it so bad but personally the PSP is too small of a console to play such an awesome game. plus i bet the sale would be alot more if it was on PS2 or PS3.
on 19 Dec 2007 at 8:21 am 311. Daylight
i wouldnt mind it coming out on ps2 eather, personaly… i have a psp, and in any case its all just a build up… i hope these 3 new games are good, psp aint small, its got nice lcd sreen on it, and very colorfull… in any case, knowing Square, xpect them to remake all 3 games and shove them on DvDs for your ps2, or BlueRays for your ps3 at some point.
on 20 Dec 2007 at 1:23 am 312. Raxel
Allow me to shed some light.The Three Knights are related to Sora, Riku, and Kairi. The one with the blabk hair is Terra and he is Sora’s older brother. The spiky haired one is Ven and he is Kairi’s brother. The blue haired girl is Aqua and she is Riku’s sister. Master Xehanort is the keyblade master who taught them how to use the keyblade. Then he dissappeared, he is looking for his memories so he can study Sora and his keyblade, to get to Kingdom Hearts. The new enemy is the first enemy before the heartless. Physical attacks don’t work on them. This enemy is fast and is known as the ENDLESS. They are pure beings with hearts. The heartless are half of the Endless,but incomplete. This is all I’m tellin you.
on 20 Dec 2007 at 6:51 am 313. hep88
where can u find the trailer
on 21 Dec 2007 at 12:07 am 314. dimand dust xd 2000
raxel you’re so wrong in so many way’s first off tazimus and i have alredy come to the conclusion of there not being any blood relations to the three characters. beside they are totally new characters we would have heard about them before 2003
on 21 Dec 2007 at 12:39 am 315. xMiracleGirlx
isn’t it coming out on PSP?
It’ll be cool if they put it out on PS2. that’s like all i have T_T
too lazy to buy a PS3.
on 21 Dec 2007 at 10:10 am 316. Tazimus Prime
xMiracleGirlx: Yep only for the PSP.
Raxel: Oh where do I begin with you. Firs there is no blood relation between Terra, Aqua, and Ven and Sora, Riku, and Kairi. There are connections between them, but not blood relations. Second Master Xehanort is not their master. Their Master sent them after Master Xehanort and his apprentice, aka the Dark Knight, because their disappearance foreshadows a great disaster. Third you are right about the new enemy being the original enemy however you are probably wrong about what they are called and you are definatly wrong about their relationship to the heartless. I can actually find evidence that supports the original enemy being known as Endless, but I doubt that that is what they are known as. There relation to heartless are not yet known. The Heartless are beings made from hearts that have been swallowed by darkness. So if they were half of the original enemy then that would that Sora and everyone else is the original enemy.
on 21 Dec 2007 at 10:22 am 317. Daylight
damn this is getting confusing, i like twisted storys, and khs is no simple story i can tell you that, but hoping they dont ruin it eather, taking Sora and Co off the big screen and the game it self, to creat 5 new caracters and put them on psp is a big step, just dont want them to desapoin, one more thing i want, is for this psp game to have just as many worlds as the normal khs have, and make it as big in time wise as normal to.
I hope they give us all the info to, not like KH2 we were missing out in comparacent to kh2 final mix, couse all the videos in FM would make so much sence to us, and into understanding chain of Memos to, since we never had it CoM became a bit weird.
This story better be good
i know it will be but still, its been amazing so far.. its so easy to f it all up.
on 21 Dec 2007 at 11:06 am 318. Daylight
Raxel you have quite the imagination hahah
and yes your wrong…
on 21 Dec 2007 at 11:08 am 319. Daylight
how about if there is no new form of enemy, Nobodies and Heartless are born from Humans, so back then the lets say “old enemy” are just humans lol
on 21 Dec 2007 at 11:09 am 320. Daylight
Humans like all the people we have seen so far, from what i can tell alot of people use to have keyblades… seamed to be comun then lol i know the chasers “Terra, Aqua and Ven” dont carry Keyblades, but they carrie some sort of blade, that looks well enough like a key.
on 21 Dec 2007 at 2:56 pm 321. DVDHRNSS
They are keyblades and sora and riku are in kh birth by sleep but are kids so dont have keyblades yet and cant fight
P.S.
dont bother me about no ‘ and , and ? and other puncuation…
on 21 Dec 2007 at 2:59 pm 322. Daylight
lol fair enough.
on 22 Dec 2007 at 6:54 am 323. Raxel
Ha Ha Ha Daylight you are so wrong. First off The old man’s name is Master Xehanort and he taught them how to use the keyblade. Terra is related to Sora because in one cutscene Terra and Ven are watching Sora and Riku play and Terra says “be safe Sora”. For your info Terra and Ven were the first people to reach Destiny Islands. The new enemy are the Endless just watch Another Side Another Story and pasue at VII and it will show you in capital letters ENDLESS.Plus its not confusing once you put all the facts together,you’ll see what I mean soon enough.
on 22 Dec 2007 at 6:56 am 324. Raxel
See! its stuuf like that that make you so confused.LOL
on 22 Dec 2007 at 8:20 pm 325. voodooabc
is the 14 member aqua
on 23 Dec 2007 at 2:52 am 326. btcm
i liked the part about sora,kairi,and riku meaning elements and ven,aqua,and terra meaning 3 more things that are similar to the elements.
sora-wind
ven-air
kairi-ocean
aqua-water
riku-earth
terra-earth
i know that last on was he same but still that’s it ment in the first paragraph.i never thought that sora,kairi,and riku were elements and ven,aqua,and terra were similar to the other three.
on 23 Dec 2007 at 12:55 pm 327. voodooabc
sora means sky ven means wind and riku means land
on 23 Dec 2007 at 2:18 pm 328. voodooabc
i heard that in kh2 u can fight double sephiroth and fight with cloud
on 23 Dec 2007 at 4:21 pm 329. My Nobody
voodooabc, Aqua isn’t Organization member XIV (14). Nomura said it, but except that, there weren’t Nobodies 10 at the time of Aqua and Organization XIII is formed out of Nobodies. Plus, Aqua doesn’t have an X in her name.
btcm, What you’re saying is right, Sora, Riku and Kairi are Japanese words for Sky, Earth and Ocean, as Ventis, Terra and Aqua are Latin words for Wind, Earth and Water.
on 23 Dec 2007 at 5:11 pm 330. Tyler
Aqua dosn’t have to have an x in her name the 14th member does. Ansem, Braig, Dilan, Even, Aelues, and Ienzo, dosn’t have x’s in there names (I know I misspeled.) But Xemnas, Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion do. also i think if you alredy have an x in your name, you dont need another one like Axel, his name was Alex
on 23 Dec 2007 at 5:59 pm 331. My Nobody
Tyler, you got it wrong, being an Organization member mean that you have an X in your name. Aqua can’t be because she doesn’t have one. To explain, Sora couldn’t be in organization, Roxas could. Match with Aqua now. As I said before, Aqua couldn’t be or couldn’t have a Nobody, because there weren’t Heartless at that time so there weren’t Nobodies.
on 23 Dec 2007 at 7:32 pm 332. Tyler
Everyone says Aqua is the 14th they mean her nobody, dang, gent with the program!!! Quaxa, heh, heh
on 24 Dec 2007 at 5:57 pm 333. Shikama03
-.-; I don’t think you NEED an X in your name or else they won’t recruit you…the creater probably liked putting Xs in people’s names. Btw, Roxas’s name was rearranged in kh2: final mix.
on 24 Dec 2007 at 6:01 pm 334. Shikama03
Also, keep in mind that there’s no X in the japanese language. Japan made these games first.
on 25 Dec 2007 at 4:08 am 335. keyblader
i am a keyblader any keybladers out there want to challenge me
on 25 Dec 2007 at 12:08 pm 336. Reggy Katigbak
OMG.Kingdom hearts is gonna be realeased on 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!It is so cool!!!!I”m a big fan of KingdomHearts!!!I hope I get it on the first of january!!!!!!!!Or a gift on my birthday
on 26 Dec 2007 at 12:19 pm 337. My Nobody
Shikama03 - You’re wrong. Japanese can almost say X. Like on Roxas, it’s “Rokusas” which is said “kus” and it’s like “x” ;). When the Organization was formed, Xehanort’s Nobody probably wasn’t even named Xemnas. He borrowed Ansem’s name, anagrammed it and added an X as to all of the Organization Member when they were recruited. You just see that happen at Roxas’ Situation, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen to all of them. Whenever a Strong Nobody is given birth, it appears in Twilight Town and Organization spots it and recruits it. Roxas joined without a doubt because he didn’t even HAVE a memory of who he is, like a baby which is born. Want to bet the 14th member will have an X in her name?
on 26 Dec 2007 at 12:20 pm 338. My Nobody
Except of course if she doesn’t have one and it’s STATED in the game why she doesn’t.
on 26 Dec 2007 at 5:11 pm 339. Tyler
It’s Ro-ku-sa-su, the u is silent though
on 26 Dec 2007 at 6:10 pm 340. shadow
The fourteenth member isn’t Aqua exactly,it’s a totally new character but i don’t see how they can add an X to Aqua, unless she took a different name…
on 27 Dec 2007 at 3:54 am 341. KH KID>>>
i just rememberd sumthing!
in kingdom hearts 2 there was a cutscene where 2 men meet and one says
“ive been to see him, he looks a lot like you.”
and the other just nods…
but since Ven looks like Roxas mabey the man in black went to see roxas…and the guy in the red armor was that guy… and he was talking to Roxas.
on 27 Dec 2007 at 4:25 am 342. JR
WHEN IS KH3 COMING OUT????????
on 27 Dec 2007 at 4:25 am 343. JR
WHEN IS KH3 COMING OUT
on 27 Dec 2007 at 4:27 am 344. NGK R2D2
KINGDOM HEARTS…..NGK…R2D2 ONE
on 27 Dec 2007 at 4:27 am 345. NGK R2D2
HEY
on 28 Dec 2007 at 1:05 pm 346. Alex
in relation to the “you need a X to be in the organization”, someone said that Xemnas took the name of his original body, Ansem and rearranged it and added the X. Roxas sort of did the same thing as Roxas is an anagram of Sora with an added X.
on 28 Dec 2007 at 2:15 pm 347. Daylight
that starting video was allways a bit wierd to me to. when he says i went to see him, it just ddint make sence… what he went to see Sora asleep? if he is talking to Roxas… than it really makes no sence in my head.. couse while Roxas was in the organisation he didnt know Bout Sora’s existance, only some faint dreams and all.
So to me it cant be Roxas… but probably is… but still makes no sence in my head, couse right after that, Roxas is in Twilight town, and has no memorie of the organisation eather…
So have no clue at what point in time does that starting video belong to.
on 28 Dec 2007 at 2:17 pm 348. Daylight
my only explanation, is that its right after Xemnas fights with Sora in Hollow Bastion. But even so… that wouldnt make sence.. couse Roxas still has no clue about Sora.
Unless Roxas new about Sora before, Sora went into Castle Oblivion… maybe that…
on 28 Dec 2007 at 10:11 pm 349. Tazimus Prime
Actually Roxas knew about Sora according to a video from the Final Mix. The one with Roxas on the Clock Tower talking to Axel. I think Roxas was told about Sora when he met with Xemnas on the beach.
on 28 Dec 2007 at 10:16 pm 350. Tazimus Prime
You are right though it did happen right after Xemnas fight with Sora in Hollow Bastion. Just not immediately afterwards.
on 28 Dec 2007 at 11:45 pm 351. DVDHRNSS
Daylight, in the orginization Roxas did know about Sora but after the fight his memories where erased almost at least
on 29 Dec 2007 at 12:35 am 352. kh veteran
Any bets on that Namine is the 14th member?
on 29 Dec 2007 at 3:38 am 353. storm
Namine isn’t the 14th member, they say she is a totally new character we never met be4
on 29 Dec 2007 at 10:49 pm 354. Tazimus Prime
Besides Nomura has already it is not Namine with out even being asked if it was.
on 29 Dec 2007 at 10:53 pm 355. Tazimus Prime
Roxas didn’t remember Sora from the beginning. The reason Nomura did that is because he didn’t think Roxas would join the Organization if he remembered who was. Now we know at some point after Xemnas battles Sora at Hollow Bastion him and Roxas have that conversation on the beach. I think that is when Roxas finds out who Sora is.
on 30 Dec 2007 at 1:46 am 356. xMiracleGirlx
hey Tazimus, how do you know all of this?
its amazing that you know all this stuff.
on 30 Dec 2007 at 9:16 am 357. Tyler
Why do Xehanort and Xemnas look the same but Roxas and Sora don’t? (hint hint)
on 30 Dec 2007 at 4:40 pm 358. xMiracleGirlx
xehanort and xemnas look alike because xemnas is xehanort’s nobody. Sora and Roxas look alike…somewhat lol
on 31 Dec 2007 at 5:57 am 359. LTN
Personally I think that they do look alike… its just the hair factor. Think Namine and Kairi. Besides the hair, I think they look alike…. In the save screen where you see Sora and Roxas on the file I see it
on 31 Dec 2007 at 12:14 pm 360. Daylight
Taz, theres just one thing here.
As far as i can remember, nobodies normaly have all the memories of who their original selvs were before they became heartless, thats why they pretend to have feelings and hearts they are so attached to thier hearts, so they keep they memories, while heartless just give in to the darkness in their hearts and become totatly deferent people.
So If Roxas is a nobody, and was born on the moment Sora was a heartless in hollow bastion, how can he not remember, the reason i know why he does not remember Sora, is like everybody else doesnt remember Sora, becouse of Castle Oblivion, so as Sora went up the floors lost his memories, and everyone tied to him, lost them to, then id think Roxas was found by Xemnas, becouse he had no recolection of who he actualy was, nor his name, so Xemnas gives him the Name Roxas, anagram of Sora, making him part of the Organasation.
So in my opinion, Roxas New about Sora, them when Sora got to Castle Oblivion, he Forgot about everything including who he was, becouse without Sora he really has no meaning, or past in life right?.. then Joined Orgasation 13 by the hand of Xemnas.
On that beach, i think its Xemnas and Roxas on the few moments after he had just joined organasation 13.
on 31 Dec 2007 at 12:19 pm 361. Daylight
Then i most admit, theres one thing taht keep bugging me lol and its that deep dive video after KH1fm. where they show Roxas fighting Riku, and on the beach, and i keaped thinking its 2 deferent people, becouse the guy on the beach, they make his right eye glow when he shows up lol.
Just makes no sence why they show his hair on the fighting video, and not on the beach, so we have to think they are 2 deferent people lol
on 31 Dec 2007 at 2:15 pm 362. storm
why is roxas wearing a batte armor like terra?
on 31 Dec 2007 at 4:14 pm 363. MasterOfTheKeyBlade
Im not sure if that is roxas
I think it just might be someone who looks like him
on 31 Dec 2007 at 5:41 pm 364. Tazimus Prime
Daylight: Ok, according to the secret Ansem reports Roxas does not remember his past due to Sora short time spent as a heartless and due to the unique way he was created. Because if remember correctly Namine was created using Sora’s body and soul, not Roxas. Roxas was later created using Sora’s heartless as medium.
on 31 Dec 2007 at 5:42 pm 365. Tazimus Prime
storm that is not Roxas, it’s Ven.
on 01 Jan 2008 at 2:42 am 366. storm
you sure tazimus? the hair style and everything belongs to roxas..
on 01 Jan 2008 at 2:43 am 367. storm
the picture of roxas or whoever wearing the battle armor is up there in the scan.
on 01 Jan 2008 at 3:07 am 368. xMiracleGirlx
yep yep
storm, in the scan up there; that’s ven.
y’know, the trio; terra, ven, and aqua.
on 01 Jan 2008 at 11:50 am 369. kid jokar
sora meens sky not air
on 01 Jan 2008 at 1:31 pm 370. storm
wow, they look so alike..
on 01 Jan 2008 at 6:43 pm 371. zain
its coming out in 2009
on 01 Jan 2008 at 7:42 pm 372. Tazimus Prime
strom: that is one of the mysteries behind Birth by Sleep. Alot of people are wanting to know why Ven and Roxas look alike. In the Japanese version they’ll even share the same voice actor.
on 02 Jan 2008 at 4:03 am 373. Virso"the keyblade" master
What do you mean by it’s coming out in 2009 really?!? i Know that FF13 fabula nova Cystrillis thing it coming out in december of 08 but really can some one clearify?!?!
on 02 Jan 2008 at 4:05 am 374. Virso"the keyblade" master
and wouldnt it be cool to have a kingdom hearts movie lol and sora’s voice actor and i have the same birthday it’s luck i tell ya LMAO
on 02 Jan 2008 at 5:23 am 375. storm
what i know is ff 13 will release durin late 2008 in japan. prob will be released durin 2009 in US. but i’m more interested in ff versus 13.lol
on 02 Jan 2008 at 5:39 am 376. storm
but i’m not very sure bout the release date for ff13
on 02 Jan 2008 at 6:10 am 377. ashez
they seriously should put these games on ps2 xD
on 03 Jan 2008 at 3:40 am 378. ShaNayNay
a Kingdom hearts movie would be awesome. KH2 has a lot of scenes and clips. I think a movie would be amazing. Thenm they make another game out of that!
on 03 Jan 2008 at 2:44 pm 379. storm
a kh blu ray dvd movie will be splendid!
on 03 Jan 2008 at 9:41 pm 380. gt
your all retarded
on 03 Jan 2008 at 9:42 pm 381. gt
your all retarded dum dums if a movie made they will not make game on it
on 03 Jan 2008 at 11:15 pm 382. L
oh.my.god. i get it! roxas is sora w/ an x!!
on 04 Jan 2008 at 12:10 am 383. zain
oh and i heard its tight
on 04 Jan 2008 at 6:57 am 384. Tazimus Prime
However much you all would love to see a Kingdom Hearts Movie I do have to say that there isn’t going to be one made anytime soon. As Nomura has said he would love to make a Kingdom Hearts Movie however Disney owns all character rights to the Kingdom Hearts characters, including Sora, Riku and Kairi, but not the FF characters. Disney at this point in time doesn’t want to make a Kingdom Hearts Movie.
on 04 Jan 2008 at 11:07 am 385. storm
too bad i’ll never get to play bbs coz i don own a psp… well i’m not gonna buy one just for it though
on 04 Jan 2008 at 11:14 am 386. Daylight
KHs it self is a movie,a and a playable one to, i think a movie would ruin it.
ok so they did FF7 advent children, but FF7 is game of games lol it has so many deferent caracter storys on it, that khs is only halth the size of FF7 lol
on 04 Jan 2008 at 2:00 pm 387. storm
i noticed something, the x shape on terra’s shirt is similar to the x shape on riku’s
on 04 Jan 2008 at 9:45 pm 388. Virso"the keyblade" master
sora voice actor is April 10th and so is mine lol were only 4 years apart lol hahahaha ,and storm i hope this doent make you mad or anything, but i think that the release date for america ;for FF13 is December 1, 2008. i have the site that says it lol
on 04 Jan 2008 at 9:47 pm 389. Virso"the keyblade" master
and…
on 04 Jan 2008 at 9:51 pm 390. Virso"the keyblade" master
and now days Hollywood is starting to appcite aniem and use in their films so…. who knows i mean that it would be a great idea if disney allowed a KH movie but…IDK
on 05 Jan 2008 at 1:35 am 391. Tyler
Yo. I was looking at the scan, and I see that Terra looks like Xehanort W/O grey hair. Most of us know that Xemnas comes from Ansem, Ansem Comes from Ansem the Wise, whose aprentace was Xeheanort. His name can be Another or No Heart. But In this similarity I found you can get Tera out O XEhAnoRT! I know it’s spelled with 2 r’s but hey. Also Xehenort lost his memory…so…….and the guy in armor might have been Terra, or not. Xemnas kept Aquas Armor Right?
Tyler, OUT!
on 05 Jan 2008 at 3:07 am 392. storm
of coz i wont be mad, besides square enix haven announce the official release date for ff13 yet.
on 05 Jan 2008 at 4:42 am 393. Tazimus Prime
OK I want to get a poll from the group here.
Do you all actually think that they are going to get Haley Joel Osment to voice Sora again?
I think that they will get someone else to voice Sora. He is turing 20 this year and KH3 is not even in production yet. So I’m wondering what you guys think.
on 05 Jan 2008 at 4:44 am 394. storm
is haley joel osment the original voice actor of sora? if so, no way they should change the voice actor!
on 05 Jan 2008 at 6:00 am 395. Tazimus Prime
Yep, he has been voicing Sora since KH1.
on 05 Jan 2008 at 6:04 am 396. Mr.K
I realy wish i had a PS3 anyways i thought ven looked kinda like sorra same with the other three you know how one looked like roxas maybe those three charicters are there nobodys eh who knows it’s just a thought…
on 05 Jan 2008 at 8:25 am 397. Master O.o
Is this “KH: Birth By Sleep” game even coming out?? I have never heard of it but I wouldn’t be surprised if there would be a KH game released for the DS or PSP before KH3 comes out. Square Enix did it with KH: Chains of Memory and that came out before the release of KH2 to fill us in with info we needed while we waited for the release of KH2. And if KH: Birth By Sleep should come out, I believe that the secret tralier for KH2 isn’t meant for KH: Birth By Sleep but for KH3. Look at the secret tralier for KH1 and that was really meant for KH2 not KH: Chain of Memory. If this game will come out, it’ll most likey just fill us in with the info we need to understand what is going on in KH3.
on 05 Jan 2008 at 7:14 pm 398. kh3XIIV
when is kh birth by sleep goin to come out becuase i really want to play it
on 05 Jan 2008 at 10:07 pm 399. Tazimus Prime
Master O.o: Birth by Sleep is the KH coming out for PSP. It will be released later this year. We know 358/2 Days and Coded are suppose to be released sometime during the summer and then Birth by Sleep will be released sometime after them.
on 06 Jan 2008 at 6:03 am 400. KingdomheartsMASTER
its been a while since ive been to this site.
Taz, i have a qeustion for you, and new rumors as to the identity of the 14th organization member
on 06 Jan 2008 at 10:40 pm 401. Virso"the keyblade" master
POWER TO THE ARIES and yes i think they should change the voice actor but then sora may sound strange but i would really hate if Zac Efron was the new voice actor for sora (no offence to troy lovers)
on 07 Jan 2008 at 11:06 pm 402. Yue
doesn’t sora mean sky?not wind?
on 08 Jan 2008 at 3:55 am 403. Virso"the keyblade" master
birth by sleep i thought that was for the PS3 and 358/2 was for the psp
on 08 Jan 2008 at 5:44 am 404. Tazimus Prime
Virso”the keyblade” master: Birth by Sleep is for the PSP, 358/2 Days later is for the DS, and Coded is for mobile phones.
on 08 Jan 2008 at 5:47 am 405. KingdomheartsMASTER
any new rumors to the identity of the 14th organization member: no one say NAMINE pls.
on 08 Jan 2008 at 7:22 am 406. storm
until 358/2 is released i doubt anyone would know who is the 14th member…
on 08 Jan 2008 at 7:06 pm 407. Black Heart
just so everyone knows, Haley Joe Osment is not turning twenty, he’s only like 15 or 16 years old because he was about 8 or 9 when AI came out.
on 08 Jan 2008 at 9:53 pm 408. Mu
you, black heart, should check his profile. He was born in 1988, which means that, yeah, he’s turning 20.
on 09 Jan 2008 at 8:05 am 409. DestinyKey13
Is it just me or does there seem to be older versions of people currently in the KH series e.g Xehanort - Master Xehanort, Sora - Ven, Riku - Terra and Kairi - Aqua? They all seem like past version of them and are obviously related - Maybe literally?
on 09 Jan 2008 at 8:16 am 410. DestinyKey13
W8 a second MAJOR FLAW IN THE ENTIRE STORY!!! How can Roxas be in the picture if he was only created when Sora became a heartless? We all know he became a heartless halfway through KH1 so unless people are lying saying that Birth By Sleep is set before the the events of KH1, Birth By Sleep must at least partially occur during KH1 correct?
on 09 Jan 2008 at 2:41 pm 411. storm
that aint roxas, its ven
on 10 Jan 2008 at 5:10 am 412. roxasblade155
Does anybody have any idea when Birth By Sleep is going to be release? The wait has been killing me ever since it was announced! I even bought a freakin PSP for it!
on 10 Jan 2008 at 11:39 am 413. DestinyKey13
oh ok but that just further contributes to my thaory that roxas and ven may actually be of the same blood…
on 10 Jan 2008 at 9:21 pm 414. Virso"the keyblade" master
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. RAGEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 11 Jan 2008 at 5:51 pm 415. Black Heart
yeah so what, you may be right, I dont really care if im right or wrong unless its for something big. But I’d bet that you anyone here knows who did the voice of Sephiroth in the first game. I know this has nothing to do with the current subject, but most people wouldnt know or remember unless they watched the credits again.
on 11 Jan 2008 at 8:21 pm 416. Tazimus Prime
Black Heart: Lance Bass did Sephiroth’s voice in the first game.
on 11 Jan 2008 at 11:26 pm 417. Samantha
Ummmm, well after playing kingdom hearts 2 again recently, I become to think how can the old man in the sercet ending have a heartless which is persumed to be Ansem and a nobody which is persumed it be Xemnas, ummmm???? As neither of them can reled the keyblade, yet Sora’s nobody Roxas could, as he was Sora’s nobody. So In fact Ansem and Xemnas is not linked to the old man or his apprentice in that fact as both have a key blade!
Please can someone tell me if my theory about this is right or wrong!
on 12 Jan 2008 at 3:58 pm 418. connor cloke
is kingdom hearts 3 out on ps2 yet? (english)
on 12 Jan 2008 at 4:03 pm 419. k h fan 12
is kingdom hearts 3 ps2 out yet? (english)
on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:11 pm 420. Taylor
Does anyone know when kingdom hearts BBS is coming out in USA… I have heard that it may come out in November but… that might of been a guess…
on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:33 pm 421. izychlinski739
around spring or summer.
on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:33 pm 422. izychlinski739
its definently and 2008 though.
on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:34 pm 423. izychlinski739
i meant in not and, srry.
on 14 Jan 2008 at 3:52 pm 424. Kingdom1286
I have a question, I was just wondering how Ven had the same color and same brace on his wrist is exactly like Roxas brace. Does everybody explain to me what’s going on this story? And I don’t think Ve and Roxas had a same blood pressure in body.
on 14 Jan 2008 at 3:53 pm 425. Kingdom1286
Its definitely coming out this summer or late 2008.
on 14 Jan 2008 at 4:04 pm 426. isebella
hello zen? or all my friends r u here
on 17 Jan 2008 at 8:06 pm 427. watever
kingdom hearts three is gonna have chasers who are soras dad,kairis dad,and rikkus mom
on 17 Jan 2008 at 8:08 pm 428. watever
its supposedly going to have some guy named ven right
on 18 Jan 2008 at 3:10 am 429. kh addict
i wish they made it for ps2 or ps3:(
on 18 Jan 2008 at 4:00 am 430. Thor
ok im so confused cause theirs birth by sleep kh3 and 358/2 i need someone to explain my head hurts
ugh ok whats birth by sleep about and same for kh3 and i no what 358/2 is Some one help me
on 18 Jan 2008 at 4:03 am 431. Thor
whats system is each for?
kh3 for
and 358/2 for
and birth by sleep for
on 18 Jan 2008 at 4:05 am 432. Thor
dam i wish i spoke japan
on 18 Jan 2008 at 6:20 am 433. storm
bbs is for psp, 358/2 is for ds, no one knows kh3 is for what system,but we guess is for ps3
on 18 Jan 2008 at 6:20 am 434. storm
anyone knows why riku blindfold his eye in kh2?
on 18 Jan 2008 at 1:44 pm 435. Thor
now isnt 358/2 for psp too cause the other guys are saying it is
on 18 Jan 2008 at 1:46 pm 436. Thor
and riku is blindfolded cause he doesn’t want sora to no that he is riku,cause remember that riku faded into darkness
on 18 Jan 2008 at 1:59 pm 437. Daylight
358/2 is for DS Thor
on 19 Jan 2008 at 2:50 am 438. Mel
What console and when?
on 19 Jan 2008 at 3:25 am 439. Sean
WHO IS PSYKED ABOUT KH3???
ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!!
(and possibly u)
on 19 Jan 2008 at 6:15 pm 440. jmp
No Thor, Riku was blind folded to keep himself from seeing the darkness and falling into it, but he realized to get Sora back to normal, he would have to gain the powers of darkness once again.
on 19 Jan 2008 at 7:22 pm 441. jordi
the birth by sleep is only an explenation wich you don’t realy need.the purpose of it is entertainment.but WHY xemnas???he was destroyed in KH2 right?and if he returns then al the other must have returned.organization 13 ’s n 2 and 3 were tougher then xemnas.make a game,a story,… but make it so that not to many people get confused.
on 19 Jan 2008 at 11:28 pm 442. Samantha
Ummmm, well after playing kingdom hearts 2 again recently, I become to think how can the old man in the sercet ending have a heartless which is persumed to be Ansem and a nobody which is persumed it be Xemnas, ummmm???? As neither of them can reled the keyblade, yet Sora’s nobody Roxas could, as he was Sora’s nobody. So In fact Ansem and Xemnas is not linked to the old man or his apprentice in that fact as both have a key blade!
Please can someone tell me if my theory about this is right or wrong!
on 20 Jan 2008 at 12:05 am 443. xMiracleGirlx
is Birth By Sleep coming out in PS2?
on 20 Jan 2008 at 5:46 am 444. Thesultan
ive had a weird feeling, since the name “ven” is an alias, that his real name IS Xehanort. remeber that the old man wants ven to remember his memory and DIZ said that he found Xehanort without his memory…..
on 20 Jan 2008 at 7:24 am 445. michael saquing
why did ven died?
on 20 Jan 2008 at 7:27 am 446. michelle saquing
in KH 2 ps2 how to defeat sephiroth
on 20 Jan 2008 at 2:36 pm 447. jack
well jmp you might be right but i no that i was right
about my theory of him not wanting to be seen
and howd u find that out??
OH I BEATED SEPHIROTH both games 1 and 2
witht the help of gameshark 3 >.
on 20 Jan 2008 at 8:31 pm 448. Wii Roxas
Ha ha… Thor is confused…..again
on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:17 am 449. rocktheartz
is Terra Sora’s dad?
what is aqua’s role in the game?
and Ven why does he look so much like Roxas?
on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:29 am 450. Keyblade Master
Sora, Roxas, and Ven are all connected. Tetsua Nomura said to think about Sora’s and Roxas’s stories, and you’d figure out who Ven is. I have many theories. In KH2 Final Mix, Axel says, “You really do have a heart…Don’t you?” to Roxas. I’ve heard that there is a new type of enemy confirmed in BBS. My hypothesis is…Ven MIGHT be related to Sora in one way. We know that he has parents. In the BBS trailer, he and Terra are watching Little Sora and Little Riku fight with wooden swords on the beach. Right now, I can’t tell you anymore.
on 21 Jan 2008 at 11:52 pm 451. Keyblade Master
Or!!! Ven could be someone’s nobody, and combined with Sora! But that couldn’t explain KH2 fm+ ending….
on 22 Jan 2008 at 4:56 am 452. Shadowheart
cool
on 22 Jan 2008 at 8:59 pm 453. DVDHRNSS
rocktheartz, Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep is before kh 1 yes but they dont have blood relationships.
on 22 Jan 2008 at 9:00 pm 454. DVDHRNSS
Sora is a kid and is not anywhere in the story idiot…Keyblade Master
on 22 Jan 2008 at 9:48 pm 455. queen_of_hearts
i just want this game to be as good as the others i love kh1,2, chain of memorie and any other games that might come out that have to do with kh i love it its awsome because its difficult but at the same time it gives us our necessary diet of disney that everone needs in their life cuaze i don’t think anyone wants to grow up…lol
on 22 Jan 2008 at 10:40 pm 456. Keyblade Master
Recheck your sources, DVD [A.K.A Weirdie Queen of Hearts from KH1] Ven and terra are watching Sora and Riku fight with wooden swords on the coast. Some KH fan you are. More of a noob really….
on 22 Jan 2008 at 10:41 pm 457. Keyblade Master
If you have anything else cruddy to say then we’ll have to settle this with keyblades…
on 22 Jan 2008 at 10:48 pm 458. Keyblade Master
Check the Birth by Sleep trailer[not the Kh2 fm+] then come bow down!!!!
on 22 Jan 2008 at 10:49 pm 459. Keyblade Master
P.S. Not you, Queen of Hearts, the weird fat 1
on 22 Jan 2008 at 10:49 pm 460. Keyblade Master
P.S. Not you, Queen of Hearts, the weird fat 1 from Wonderland in KH1
on 23 Jan 2008 at 7:04 pm 461. Eribar
listen, theres no telling that ven has no blood relationship to sora, you never see his father and only hear his mothers voice,
but personally i dont think it is a direct relationship…
i definatly dont think ven is a nobody, that merged with sora?
both dvd and keyblade master have good points, stop arguing…
i think ven, terra and aqua are from a demension inside kingdom hearts, and were the generation of keyblade weilders before sora and the others
on 23 Jan 2008 at 9:52 pm 462. DVDHRNSS
first, keyblade master, you have the worst sorce if that is what you think. AND I KNOW ABOUT THE BEACH THING NOOB, but ven only sees sora once at destiny island and plus combining with sora what an idiot you are!
on 23 Jan 2008 at 10:05 pm 463. Tazimus Prime
Eribar: Actually we know enough about Birth by Sleep and Ven to know it is not a blood relationship. First Ven is definitely not Sora’s father. Sora is 4 years old at the time of Birth by Sleep and Ven appears to be 14 or 15. So unless there going to say an 11 year old kid knocked up someone, we can omit Ven being Sora’s father. Also Sora never mentions having a brother or anything like that. You think it would have come up in their discussions in KH1 when they were deciding to leave the Island or somewhere else in the games. The likely hood of a blood relation is not beyond slim.
on 24 Jan 2008 at 12:29 am 464. Keyblade Master
First of all…Ty Prime and Eribar. I’m just trying to figure out why Roxas looks just like Ven… Since YOU (DVD} thinks he’s such a know-it-all… tell us. Unless you are too busy playing Barbies…..
on 24 Jan 2008 at 12:41 am 465. Keyblade Master
Look, can we just call a truce? And I’m sorry about the barbie comment. I went too far. Frends? [Entends a hand of friendship]
on 24 Jan 2008 at 12:44 am 466. Keyblade Master
This is kinda another wacky thought that just came to mind… Riku was possessed by Xehanort’s Heartless… So maybe Ven has something that gave Roxas his shape…
on 25 Jan 2008 at 12:25 am 467. shadow master
terra could be sora’s father
on 25 Jan 2008 at 2:04 am 468. jake
i think it is soras heartless and what is hapanin to him.or roxas goes back in time .or somthin like that.
on 25 Jan 2008 at 3:33 am 469. Tazimus Prime
jake: It’s not Sora’s heartless because we got to play as Sora’s heartless in KH1. Also Nomura has stated flatly that Ven and Roxas are not the same person.
on 26 Jan 2008 at 12:33 am 470. DVDHRNSS
you people need to read the nomara interveiws
on 27 Jan 2008 at 4:13 am 471. jake
thanks man!!!!!!!
on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:45 am 472. jake
not to start any rumors but wasent ven a name used in final fantasee
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:41 pm 473. Susu
hi
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:42 pm 474. Susu
hi every1 …. i’m CONFUSED BIG TIME HELP !!!
Ppl…. ppl …ppl i’m freaking confused i’ve played and won KH nd KH2…. and i have KHFM+ but i can’t play it cuz it’s freakn’ Japenese
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:44 pm 475. Susu
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:45 pm 476. Susu
i’m freaking confused i’ve played and won KH nd KH2…. and i have KHFM+ but i can’t play it cuz it’s freakn’ Japenese
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:46 pm 477. Susu
LONG STORY SHORT ….” Do i have 2 play the game KHFM+ , so i could understand “BIRTH BY SLEEP”
on 27 Jan 2008 at 2:47 pm 478. Susu
Do i have 2 play the game KHFM+ , so i could understand “BIRTH BY SLEEP”
on 27 Jan 2008 at 7:21 pm 479. shadow master
NO u do not have to play khfm+ to understand
birth by sleep
on 27 Jan 2008 at 7:25 pm 480. shadow master
when is it coming out
on 29 Jan 2008 at 5:02 pm 481. Zerokainin
I was just looking around on this site (check in artwork and it was one of those books) and found out kairi was 5 when that old women told her that story thats 10 years before kingdom heats I when birth by sleep was happening!!!
on 29 Jan 2008 at 8:31 pm 482. Tazimus Prime
Actually Kairi is 14 in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 15 in Kingdom Hearts 2. Anyways the story that Kairi’s grandmother told her is nothing more then a children’s bedtime story with maybe a sliver of truth mixed in. That’s what Nomura said on the subjact.
on 30 Jan 2008 at 9:30 am 483. TIT
is this website death or no new NEWS about kingdom hearts birth by sleep
on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:32 pm 484. White fang
.. birth by sleep should be for the ps2 not the psp >:-|
on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:36 pm 485. White Fang
oh and… i need to get KH2FM
-White Fang of Star Tribe
on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:47 pm 486. Nobodieshadow
I was reading the interview with Nomura in Jan. 2008 Column and yes, he did give away names of the KH games to come at the end of each existing KH game. However, the cutscene at the end of the first KH was just for controversy. At the time he hadn’t planned of making a series. After KH turned out to be a HUGE hit, he decided to use that cutscene as a basis for the next games. Even after the second KH he hadn’t planned a third. Oh yeah, someone posted that they thought Sora died in the Birth by Sleep video. Nomura says that it isn’t Sora but he does have a connection to him. Weird… Nomura also mentioned that the other 2 have connections to Riku and Kairi but he didn’t describe the nature of the connection. So… who knows…
on 01 Feb 2008 at 10:19 am 487. jake
is birth by sleep for the ps3
on 01 Feb 2008 at 2:42 pm 488. Ultimate_sora
Is there a new kh3 game for the ps3.
on 02 Feb 2008 at 5:55 am 489. brian
i think there is going to be another game but for the psp only but who knows well jus have to wait…
on 02 Feb 2008 at 9:17 pm 490. monkey
WHY IS IT FOR PSP WHY!!!!AND KINGDOM HEARTS KEYBLADE WARS IS FOR PS3
on 02 Feb 2008 at 9:18 pm 491. monkey
WHITE FANG I SEE WHER YOUR GOING WITH THIS
on 03 Feb 2008 at 8:12 pm 492. Tazimus Prime
monkey: Kingdom Hearts 3 is not called Keyblade Wars. Birth by Sleep is the Kingdom Hearts game that is going to have to do with the Keyblade War. All the Keyblade War covers were fakes. They haven’t even began working on the game.
on 04 Feb 2008 at 12:34 am 493. DVDHRNSS
yeah we can just make real lokking things with computer programs
on 04 Feb 2008 at 12:35 am 494. DVDHRNSS
and the game for the psp is birth by sleep
on 05 Feb 2008 at 12:58 am 495. Zeroux of Nothing
Time for my ideas. Terra, somewhere along the line of BbS loses his memmorys and his hair goes white. He is found by ansem the wise, and calls himself Xehenort, after his estranged Master. He soon turns to the dark and becomes a heartless. As a heartless, he wears clothes similar to those of his master. Also he takes on the name (again) of his new master, Ansem. His nobody, Xemnas is seen talking to Aqua’s armor, calling it an, “old friend” this is also why he is so eager to let Roxas join Org 13. HAHA!
on 05 Feb 2008 at 7:20 am 496. Tazimus Prime
Zeroux of Nothing: Yeah see the only problem with that is that Nomura said that Terra was completely new and outside of KH2FM has never been seen in the games. However Xehanort as a whole person has been seen in the games before in a flashback sequence. So Nomura has basically told us that neither of the Chasers are Xehanort.
on 05 Feb 2008 at 2:43 pm 497. Endles
Could someone tell is birth by sleep coming for psp or ps3? I’d really like to know and everybodys saying different things.
on 05 Feb 2008 at 7:27 pm 498. Zeroux of Nothing
if not, then they look very similar, brothers mabey?
on 06 Feb 2008 at 12:19 am 499. Tazimus Prime
Endles: Birth by Sleep is going to be released on the PSP.
Zeroux of Nothing: It may be possible that they are brothers. However there is no evidence to support it. Just because they look alike doesn’t they are related. Roxas looks like Cloud, but they aren’t related.
on 06 Feb 2008 at 7:43 pm 500. Zeroux of Nothing
True…
*RANDOM* Goofy sounds funny in japanese
on 08 Feb 2008 at 6:35 am 501. Terra's Wrath
Man, I sure am crazy for that game…More than the other two, of course. I am from Brazil [so sorry for the bad speech] and here things are hard, I simply CAN’T have two video games at home [I have a PS2] [except if I, myself, pay it]. So here’s the deal: Square will probably release BBS in the end of the year/beggining of next year[2009]. ‘Til there, I’m almost sure I’ll have the PSP to play this. And, about the game itself, there’s so much to say…but I’ll say only this: BBS will be better tahn KHII, you bet, ’cause the action will be multiplied. Anyway, talk to me by messenger, alright? Thank ya! ^^
on 08 Feb 2008 at 6:36 am 502. Terra's Wrath
Dammit…my messenger is: heitor.pereira@hotmail.com
on 09 Feb 2008 at 5:23 am 503. Allheartsborn
I agree goofy sounds hilarious
on 09 Feb 2008 at 10:51 am 504. Susu
i just wanna thank “shadow master” 4 finally answering my Question ….. nd final mix came out in the JAPAN of course than the middle east nd europe that’s y i have it …lool
on 09 Feb 2008 at 10:54 am 505. Susu
i mean JAPAN
on 09 Feb 2008 at 10:56 am 506. Susu
But btw i returned Final mix …. B/C IT WAS IN Japanese i didn’t understand a word……
on 10 Feb 2008 at 3:26 am 507. Kiori
“…Terra on a beach. He seems to be watching two boys play in the ocean. After he rests his weapon into the ground, the two boys he was watching are clearer and they look like Sora and Riku. Soon after, Terra says “Please don’t depend on me, just erase me… friend.”
First of all, I am a Kingdom Hearts expert. And after three months of research, this seems to fit a few things into place: Terra is either Sora or Riku’s father OR he knows their families.
^^; But why, oh WHY does it have to be on the PSP? Some of us can’t get one, y’know. Thanks, Nomura-dono.
~Kio
on 10 Feb 2008 at 6:52 am 508. Tazimus Prime
Kiori: First that part where it says Terra says “You can’t depend on me… so erase me.” Is a miss print. That is Ven that says that. Also Terra is not Riku or Sora’s father. I doubt he even knows there family.
on 11 Feb 2008 at 12:13 am 509. Keyblade Master
Birth by Sleep is going to be so cool. Nuff said.
on 11 Feb 2008 at 9:54 pm 510. khfinatic
were can i see the trailer for this game
on 11 Feb 2008 at 11:32 pm 511. Keyblade Master
KH2 final mix secret ending hq on youtube
on 14 Feb 2008 at 12:57 am 512. XwingsofaresX from FinalFantasyVersusXIII.net!
i am going to like this! it will be so awesome!
on 14 Feb 2008 at 2:19 am 513. Shadow master
when is it coming out?
on 14 Feb 2008 at 8:25 am 514. DL
I’ts coming out 2009, thats next year!
on 14 Feb 2008 at 8:26 am 515. DL
Is it comin out on PS2 as well?
on 14 Feb 2008 at 8:27 am 516. DL
If it’s not……..AAAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGAAAAAA!
on 14 Feb 2008 at 8:15 pm 517. Samantha
Hay DL,
where did you hear that kingdom hearts brith by sleep will be out 2009? I’ve been told it would be sometime this year!
on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:29 pm 518. Tazimus Prime
It will be out sometime this year in Japan. We here in America probably wont get it until next year.
on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:29 pm 519. Tazimus Prime
DL: It is only for the PSP.
on 15 Feb 2008 at 12:40 pm 520. Samatha
Tazimus Prime:
‘It will be out sometime this year in Japan. We here in America probably wont get it until next year.’
We that go for the UK as well then?
on 15 Feb 2008 at 8:23 pm 521. Tazimus Prime
It will probably be released sometime next year in the UK.
on 16 Feb 2008 at 2:47 am 522. gerardo
didnt riku have a heartless besides turnig into
“ansem” or am i wrong beacuase in kh sora turned int a heartless so what happend to rkus heartless
on 16 Feb 2008 at 4:23 am 523. Tazimus Prime
Riku never turned into a heartless. He was possessed by Xehanort’s heartless.
on 17 Feb 2008 at 5:15 pm 524. DVDHRNSS
Is there a way to order kingdom hearts ll final mix + to the usa?
on 17 Feb 2008 at 6:03 pm 525. xixfalt
nope its not.(square inx said they had a surprise for america.)
on 18 Feb 2008 at 5:40 am 526. Tazimus Prime
DVDHRNSS: You can import from different websites. Just google import japanese games and chose the site best for you. You’re also going to need something like Swap Magic or a mod chip in your PS2.
on 18 Feb 2008 at 7:46 pm 527. Cangrison
hey tazmius… how can you get a hold of a mod chip or a swap magic?
on 18 Feb 2008 at 11:35 pm 528. cloud
hey Tazimus Prime when does kingdomhearts 3 comes out? it haves come out for PS2 and the PS3.
on 19 Feb 2008 at 2:27 am 529. jake
actually its comin in this year like in the second quarter of this summer. i got the info from wikipedia as well as interview with square-enix.
on 19 Feb 2008 at 4:04 am 530. Tazimus Prime
Cangrison: You can get a mod chip from various websites, but the easiest thing would be to get Swap Magic. You can get the latest version from it’s website: swapmagic3.com
cloud: Kingdom Hearts 3 isn’t even in production yet. So my estimation for a release date would somewhere in 2010 or 2011.
jake: Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days for the DS will be released this in Japan, not Kingdom Hearts 3.
on 19 Feb 2008 at 4:59 pm 531. Jak
TERRA ROCKS
on 19 Feb 2008 at 10:02 pm 532. Needsugarkain
Is it possible that not all the worlds are on the same time stream. In the game you can do things out of order and you always got to a world when you needed to so it could be possible that even though birth by sleep is ten years earlier, some worlds might only be a year after right. im just saying this cause i read a post with people talking about what the worlds would be like.
on 19 Feb 2008 at 11:47 pm 533. Tazimus Prime
Needsugarkain: Nomura has stated that the worlds will be designed as if it were ten years before Kingdom Hearts 1. He chose worlds for the game that will depict as such.
on 21 Feb 2008 at 6:19 am 534. needsugarkain
thanks i wasnt sure and it was just a thought i had because of a book im reading.
on 22 Feb 2008 at 10:24 am 535. jackson
ur LL NUBS ITS COMIN OUT THIS YEAR MARCH OR MABEY LATE IN YEAR ND ONLY FOR PSP ND FINAL MIX IS COMEIN TO ND I HAVE THE FIRST EVER ENGLISH EDITION ND IT KIKS BOOTY
on 24 Feb 2008 at 7:38 am 536. Riku
Riku is the coolest.
on 24 Feb 2008 at 7:48 am 537. SY-ICE
i should get my psp back
ha…
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:43 pm 538. king mickey
i cant belive that soras dad is terra
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:44 pm 539. king mickey
terra is way stronger then sora
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:45 pm 540. king mickey
riku is a idiot!!!!!!!!!!
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:45 pm 541. king mickey
sora could fly in kingdom hearts 3
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:47 pm 542. king mickey
mfmfmfmfmfmmfmfmfmfmfmfmfmfmfm
on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:48 pm 543. king mickey
Hi i am yo mama
on 25 Feb 2008 at 1:29 am 544. keyblade holder
yeah ITS ON the PSP
on 25 Feb 2008 at 2:16 am 545. Brandon
I wish there were more info on Aqua.
on 25 Feb 2008 at 11:45 pm 546. DVDHRNSS
King mickey- Terra isn’t Sora’s father and kh3 isn’t in development yet.
on 26 Feb 2008 at 2:00 am 547. Brandon
Nomura said he’d like it to be on something portable, but doesn’t mean it is going to be on PSP yet.
on 26 Feb 2008 at 2:22 am 548. Tazimus Prime
Brandon: Actually Nomura has already confirmed that Birth by Sleep is going to be on PSP.
on 26 Feb 2008 at 1:53 pm 549. yeahMe
umm… where is this trailer? i have never seen that!
on 27 Feb 2008 at 3:49 pm 550. Kingdom1286
Tazimus Prime : Tell me how EXACTLY to get Swap Magic? I really need one to play Final Mix. So please tell me.
on 28 Feb 2008 at 12:09 am 551. Tazimus Prime
Kingdom1286: You can click on my name and buy it from the website. I don’t know any stores that offer it if that is what you’re asking.
on 28 Feb 2008 at 12:12 am 552. Tazimus Prime
Kingdom1286: Oh and depending what kind of PS2 you have depends on the kind you need to get. If you have a slim PS2 get the one with the Flip Top cover. If you have a normal PS2 get the one with a slider.
on 28 Feb 2008 at 3:33 am 553. iliemiaou
Anyone know where I can watch this trailer? I´ve never seen it before!!!
on 28 Feb 2008 at 6:00 pm 554. SATAN
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on 29 Feb 2008 at 1:37 am 555. kh13XIII
xeanort in the alternate ending of kh2fm+ is wearing the suit that ansem wears in kh1 and his clone is wearing the suit that riku wears in kh1 people have probably said this before but i just felt the need to say it
on 02 Mar 2008 at 4:47 pm 556. Musical J
dammit! she stole my freak’n kingdom hearts 1 game. i just felt like playing it again!
on 02 Mar 2008 at 4:50 pm 557. Musical J
iliemiaou, you can find the trailer on Youtube. Watch the high def one. its pretty sweet. almost looks real
on 02 Mar 2008 at 5:55 pm 558. DVDHRNSS
kh13XIII: The “clone” is not a clone it’s the dark soldier it just materialized like that. The suit is simalar to rikus but it is red and doesnt have a heartless symbol. Master Xehonort is wearing a suit similar to ansem(xehonorts heartless but not master xehonorts)but they have no relation.
on 02 Mar 2008 at 10:02 pm 559. kael
I’ve seen the video on youtube of the FM ending and the BBS trailer, but I haven’t seen some of the footage described above. Like the scenes in the look-alike Hollow Bastion, and the stuff on the beach, etc. Where can I find the trailer with those things in it? I really really want to watch it!
on 03 Mar 2008 at 1:00 am 560. S.I
U probably can’t watch it here in JAPAN BUT NOT IN THE USA since JApan knows everything about the game including the other 2!
on 04 Mar 2008 at 5:55 am 561. Tazimus Prime
S.I & kael: The trailer described above were shown in closed Mega Theatres at TGS 07 and Jump Fiesta. They haven’t publicly released the trailer yet. That is why you haven’t seen it.
on 04 Mar 2008 at 8:01 pm 562. SI
THats what I thought since I saw a picture of the OUTSIDE of the theater
on 05 Mar 2008 at 5:53 pm 563. hi pplz
wtf happened to Sora ??????? an wtf is goin on did everythin go back to normal an they just live their happy little lives or wut?????? not to mention.. wut happened to nomine!!!!????? an Roxas???????? an everyone else thats a nobody????? i havnt gotten quite to the end of kh2 cause i wuz playin off some1 elses ps2 but i saw the ending clip an im wondrin.. did sora remember Namine??? and did all da nobodies just dissapear or wat???? im sooooooooooooooooo confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ps is Namine Kairi’s nobody????
on 05 Mar 2008 at 9:10 pm 564. SI
I think so
on 06 Mar 2008 at 3:43 am 565. Tazimus Prime
hi pplz: Ok I’m going to answer all your questions.
1. Sora and Riku ended up back on Destiny Island.
2. Everything seemed to go back to normal, however they end up getting a letter from King Mickey. Now Nomura has stated that he struggled a long time whether or not he should reveal the content of the letter and show them leaving on their next adventure. Meaning that apparently not everything is fine with the worlds.
3. Namine and Roxas reunited with their original selves and are going to live on through them.
4. The rest of the nobodies faded away into darkness and are gone.
5. Yes, Namine is Kairi’s nobody.
on 06 Mar 2008 at 11:39 pm 566. SI
well I guess I was Right
on 07 Mar 2008 at 1:11 pm 567. Dragons2209
How come there hasn’t been no updates lately for kingdom hearts birth by sleep? I hope it comes out soon, I’m fed up of waiting now!
on 07 Mar 2008 at 1:51 pm 568. riku32
tazimus: there’s one thing i still don’t get about the nobodies
if a nobody is created from a strong hearted person that becomes a heartless, and since the heartless aren’t gone, then wouldn’t the nobodies still be around?
on 07 Mar 2008 at 9:22 pm 569. Tazimus Prime
riku32: No one said the nobodies are gone. Organization 13 is gone, but the nobodies are still around. When Kingdom Hearts 3 does come out we will probably be facing nobodies and heartless. However our main antagonist probably wont be a nobody.
on 08 Mar 2008 at 2:21 am 570. S.I
BUt after you defeat Xemnas in KH2 all those nobodies disseapeared or did Riku do that? AHHHHHH!! This is confusing!
on 08 Mar 2008 at 8:45 am 571. Shadow Heart & Kingdom Heart
is this game out???
COZ I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz tell me plz!!!!!
on 09 Mar 2008 at 1:04 am 572. S.I
NO IT IS NOT
on 09 Mar 2008 at 9:25 am 573. Tazimus Prime
S.I: Not all the nobodies disappeared. Sora and the gang got rid of the Organization members which where in control of the nobodies. However there are stil dusk and other low ranking nobodies still around. There are possibly other human nobodies around that were not apart of the Organization. However with the Organization gone these low ranking nobodies have no one to command them. So basically Sora and the gang cut the head off the metaphorical snake.
on 09 Mar 2008 at 8:15 pm 574. kevin olesen
when does it come out?
on 09 Mar 2008 at 9:38 pm 575. S.I.
not for a while okay
on 12 Mar 2008 at 5:06 am 576. Kh.lover
wow i think it comes out may 15 or in the summer but im not sure
on 12 Mar 2008 at 5:56 am 577. Tazimus Prime
Kh.lover: Nope, only 358/2 Days and Coded are slated to come out this summer. We don’t know when Birth by Sleep will be released yet.
on 12 Mar 2008 at 9:45 am 578. Shadow Heart & Kingdom Heart
well Kingdom Heart 3 is out in Japan so it might be coming out in summer soo we just got 2 wait and see!!!!
on 12 Mar 2008 at 1:29 pm 579. Anonymous
the chararictors in the brith by sleep tailors are still to be indentified with the expsion of sora and an must older seaker of darkness any ideas
on 12 Mar 2008 at 1:32 pm 580. the dark
Kari gandmother could be the gril in the brith by sleep taliors
on 12 Mar 2008 at 3:03 pm 581. storm
any news on bbs? is there any final fantasy website similar to this??
on 12 Mar 2008 at 7:38 pm 582. S.I
Probably not
on 12 Mar 2008 at 7:44 pm 583. Tazimus Prime
Shadow Heart & Kingdom Heart: No, it is not out in Japan yet. It takes over a year close to two years to make game generally. Now back in July of 2007 Nomura said that he is not working on Kingdom Hearts 3. SO there is no way that Kingdom Hearts 3 is out in Japan yet.
Anonymous: The characters in Birth by Sleep were identified awhile back. The knights are known as Terra, Aqua, and Ven and the old bald man is Master Xehanort and the Dark Knight is his apprentice.
the dark: No she can’t. Birth by Sleep happens 10 years before Kingdom Hearts 1. This makes Kairi 4 years old at this time. Kairi’s grandmother is already old by the time this occurs.
on 13 Mar 2008 at 1:11 am 584. chris breezy
awww….sora aint there o well i might get dis or kh 2 final remix
on 13 Mar 2008 at 5:45 am 585. Tazimus Prime
chris breezy: I suggest getting Birth by Sleep because honestly they are not going to release Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix in the US, or else for the matter, anytime soon. Birth by Sleep however will be released outside of Japan.
on 13 Mar 2008 at 12:17 pm 586. Shadow Heart & Kingdom Heart
yes but i want 2 no about the UK not the US!
how many Kingdom Heart’s r out in the UK???
on 13 Mar 2008 at 2:02 pm 587. chris breezy
cool but sumthin is in my mind…who are those guys in dah game i never seen them B4
on 13 Mar 2008 at 5:08 pm 588. Any more question?
which game of all are you refering to if you’re talking about the kh2 and kh2fm the those caracters are ven,aqua,terra,master xehanort and his aprentice.
capish
on 13 Mar 2008 at 8:42 pm 589. S.I
Yes but I wonder what keyblades all those people are using and does xenhort have a keyblade?
on 13 Mar 2008 at 9:31 pm 590. sneebazoo
OK….
(just remember that I haven’t played the game or heard much about it)
I THINK I GOTS IT!!!!!
right, Xehanort was found half dead by Ansem?
well, maybe he became so young looking because the Black Knight is the Xehanort from KH1 and 2!, and maybe it’s telling the story of the old Keyblade Masters so that we can understand what will happen to Sora, Riku and Kairi!
Maybe, as I said the black knight is Xehanort from KH1/KH2, maybe he’s Master Xehanort’s son, and Master Xehanot cast him aside for failing him….
just a bit of pondering…
on 14 Mar 2008 at 1:20 am 591. $¤R@_K3¥ßL@D3_W3!LD3R
when is this coming to Frisco?
on 15 Mar 2008 at 7:21 pm 592. Lustig
I’m in germany
and in germANY isn’t it out yet
on 15 Mar 2008 at 8:33 pm 593. zigfril
i bad speak english but when this game out on the shop
on 16 Mar 2008 at 3:28 am 594. cloud
Tazimus Prime: dosnt take every 4 years to make kingdom heaerts?
on 16 Mar 2008 at 11:28 am 595. aqua, ven and terra
its a gd thing there making 3 games then
on 16 Mar 2008 at 8:48 pm 596. SI
Yeah but are u sure the old man is master xehanort
on 17 Mar 2008 at 2:08 am 597. demonlordsora
no the dark night isnt little xhnort…hes probally someones heartless look at his outfit. its the one riku had on in kh1 when he was possised.
on 17 Mar 2008 at 4:58 am 598. Tazimus Prime
demonlordsora: Nope, he is Master Xehanort’s apprentice. Nomura has already said that there are no heartless or nobodies in the time period of Birth by Sleep. It is quite possible that the Dark Knight is in fact the Xehanort from the previous games.
cloud: It doesn’t take four years in a sense that they make the game over the course of four years. See it took close to four years for them to release KH2 after KH1 was released in 2002. You have to remember that they are working on other games in between this time as well. Currently Final Fantasy Versus XIII is what is really holding up production to begin on Kingdom Hearts 3 because Final Fantasy Versus XIII is taking up much of their time. Once it is completed Nomura stated that he is going to dedicate his time solely to Kingdom Hearts Projects. So production on Kingdom Hearts 3 will probably begin once Final Fantasy Versus XIII is completed.
SI: Yes, the old man is Master Xehanort. Nomura has already said that that is his name.
on 17 Mar 2008 at 4:36 pm 599. .:sora's chain:.
wate. Isent xehanort the apprentice of ansem?, so ansems apprentice has an apprentice?
on 17 Mar 2008 at 4:36 pm 600. .:sora's chain:.
wait. Isent xehanort the apprentice of ansem?, so ansems apprentice has an apprentice?
on 17 Mar 2008 at 7:17 pm 601. DVDHRNSS
wrong xeonort.
on 19 Mar 2008 at 12:25 am 602. S.I
Maybe
on 19 Mar 2008 at 3:26 am 603. cloud
Tazimus Prime: does it take every four years to make a kingdomhearts game?
on 19 Mar 2008 at 3:27 am 604. cloud
Tazimus Prime: when will kingdomhearts 3 come out?
on 19 Mar 2008 at 4:38 am 605. moogle
anyone notice that terras eyes where the same color as master xeanoart.plus what is the name of the planet there on?????
on 19 Mar 2008 at 1:49 pm 606. sneebazoo
I only just realised that the apprentice is wielding a keyblade that looks like the photon de-bugger from Tron in KH2, daym, i’m blind
on 19 Mar 2008 at 4:18 pm 607. matthew fletcher
will there be hunchback of notre dame, and when is it coming out
on 19 Mar 2008 at 7:17 pm 608. .:sora's chain:.
i heard that its coming out it 2010. WAY!!!!! too long to wait
on 20 Mar 2008 at 12:10 am 609. Samatha
I’ve just been watching the cutscence from kh2 and from kh final mix and i notice in kh2 the three figers (Terra, Ven, and Aqua) all pick up a second keyblade when they meet but in kh final mix it looks like that they are only carrying 1 and they only fight with 1.
Or am I just missing something?
on 20 Mar 2008 at 6:08 am 610. moose
OK WHEN IS THE NEXT KINGDOM HEARTS GAME COMING OUT????????????????? PLZ RESPOND VIA E-MAIL, Dbackscatcher@aol.com
on 20 Mar 2008 at 6:08 pm 611. .:sora's chain:.
i like the idea of terra’s transforming keyblade but i think having a massive cannon gun thingy on his back is a bit to much
they need to come up with more in-the-box ideas
on 20 Mar 2008 at 11:21 pm 612. DVDHRNSS
.:sora’s chain:.-For one kh3 cant come out in 2010 because it’s not out yet.
Samatha-No your not missing anything in the birth by sleep trailer.
To all of you as a refrence, KH3 ISNT IN DEVELOPMENT YET AND THE TRAILER AFTER KH2FM+ WAS FOR BIRTH BY SLEEP!!! To add to that, THE KEYBLADE WARS ARE IN BIRTH BY SLEEP SO THERE IS NO Kingdom Hearts III: The Keyblade Wars!!! OR LAND OF DISSOULED!!!
on 21 Mar 2008 at 10:06 pm 613. Ven Unvinsible
DVDHRNSS: You are wrong it was meant for KH3! If you don’t think so i’ll tell you how. Sora is not really that inportant in Birth By Sleep Ven,Aqua, and Terra are more inportant in Birth By Sleep. And that note was meant to Sora and Riku. Not Ven,Aqua, and Terra. So there it is not meant for Birth By Sleep it’s for KH3!!!!!!
on 21 Mar 2008 at 10:23 pm 614. Deehizl
ok i need help about everything i mean i beat kh1 and kh2 and kh chain of memories but i need help with the other stuff please
on 22 Mar 2008 at 6:21 am 615. roxas look-a-like
when is kh3 coming out???? and is there 4 xeonorts? The one in the tralier that was fighting ven,terra and aqua and his heart less. then the one in kh2 his the one that shoots the ray gun thingy and the heart shaped moon and then the other guy that worked with the one i was just talking about. am i rite or am i just hearing and seeing things?
on 22 Mar 2008 at 7:09 am 616. Summer
NOBODY KNOWS WHEN KINGDOM HEARTS III IS COMING OUT, MMKAY?! GET A FRICKIN GRIP, YOU GUYS!
on 22 Mar 2008 at 1:32 pm 617. Samatha/Dragons 2209
There are 3 games coming out they are:
Birth by sleep for the PSP, (The game features the events before Sora got the key blade we know this as we see Sora and Riku playing on the beach. The main charters are Terra, Ven and Master Xehanort and his apprentice)
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days for the DS, (The game features Roxas during his time with Organization XIII when Sora is asleep for 1year)
Kingdom Hearts coded for the mobile phone (This is the events after kingdom hearts 2 where King Mickey makes Jiminy Cricket’s journal virtual is some respects, and they create a virtual Sora (the Sora from kingdom hearts 1) to investigate the mysterious message that was left in Jiminy Cricket’s journal ‘We must return to free them from their torment’ so the event must of happened before kingdom hearts 3 so either during kingdom hearts 1 or chain of memories this is unknown)
KINGDOM HEARTS 3 DOES NOT EXIST AT THIS PRESENT TIME AS THE MAKERS HAVE NOT STARTED CREATING IT AS THERE ARE 3 GAMES COMING OUT BEFORE HAND SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PLOT AND HISTORY OF KINGDOM HEARTS 2 AND THERE IS A POSSIBLITY THAT IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN!
So can people please stop talking/asking about Kingdom hearts 3 as it doesn’t exist yet in time and there wont be until the other games have been released!
on 22 Mar 2008 at 3:12 pm 618. firedude7
i’m glad i got a psp for christmas
on 22 Mar 2008 at 4:11 pm 619. Tazimus Prime
Ven Unvinsible: The the secret video at the end of KH2FM+ is for Birth by Sleep. It is actually a scene form the game. I think you are getting the “Birth by Sleep” video that DVDHRNSS is talking about confussed with the video of Sora and them getting the letter from Kingdom Mickey.
DVDHRNSS: Actually it is possible for Kingom Hearts 3 to be released in 2010. It’s only 2008 now, so I imagine that if work begins on the game this year they’ll probably release it in 2010.
roxas look-a-like: There is really only one or two Xehanorts. First there is Master Xehanort the main antagonist of Birth by Sleep. He is the blad man seen the “Birth by Sleep” video from KH2FM+. Now going on the basis that Xehanort, the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 and the Riku’s scenario in Chain of Memories, is a different character from Master Xehanort then there would only be two. Now some people will split hairs and say three, the three being Master Xehanort, Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem from KH1), and Xemnas (Xehanort’s nobody). However the Heartless and Nobody are really just pieces of the same character.
on 22 Mar 2008 at 6:23 pm 620. darky
thats cool
on 22 Mar 2008 at 10:51 pm 621. Samatha/Dragons 2209
Tazimus Prime ‘Now going on the basis that Xehanort, the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 and the Riku’s scenario in Chain of Memories, is a different character from Master Xehanort then there would only be two. Now some people will split hairs and say three, the three being Master Xehanort, Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem from KH1), and Xemnas (Xehanort’s nobody). However the Heartless and Nobody are really just pieces of the same character.’
Please don’t hold this against me later on ok This the thing I’m confused I understand what you are saying about Master Xehanort and his heartless and nobody, but I’m not convince that the heartless and nobody are link to him. My argument is that Roxas (Sora’s nobody) can wield the key blade in that case if Xemnas was Master Xehanort’s nobody then he should of had the power to call the key blade regardless if he had lost his true memories. I think that Master Xehanort is a new villain; well he is anyway in Kingdom hearts birth by sleep, but what if he returns? What if this is what was mentioned in the letter that Sora, Riku and Kairi received from King Mickey? Who knows?
We do know that Master Xehanort is the new villain in Kingdom hearts birth by sleep what we don’t is the battle out come with Terra, Ven and Aqua! We also don’t know if Ansem and Xemas is connected to Master Xehanort, or if there is going to be another Kingdom hearts with Sora, Riku and Kairi (I am referring to kingdom hearts 3 but it doesn’t exist yet nor does the story line/plot as it hasn’t been mention or revealed).
on 22 Mar 2008 at 11:17 pm 622. Kage
From reading the first few lines, I thought it best to correct you. With my knowledge of Japanese, and my study of the language, I thought I should tell you that Sora does not mean wind. Sora means sky. Kaze means wind. ^^ I hope I don’t sound too rude.
on 23 Mar 2008 at 12:30 am 623. BrinkofDawn
Wow, I actually haven’t checked this in a while^^ I’m gonna use quotes to address the different characters I’m about to talk about to avoid confusion.
Anywho, I’m looking at Tazimus Prime’s argument and I agree with it. I had my own theory that the “Xehanort” from KH1 and KH2 and “Master Xehanort” from BBS aren’t the same person at all. In my opinion they could be two entirely different people. As to why they share the same name?…I don’t know.
Personally, I think that “Xehanort” might have some connection with “Master Xehanort’s” apprentice.
If you remember from KH2 Ansem found “Xehanort” whom which couldn’t remember anything. Couldn’t it be possible that “Xehanort” could only remember the name “Xehanort”, and so used it as his own st like how “Xehanort’s Heartless” stole Ansem’s name in KH1?
Where I’m trying to get at is that “Xehanort” could be “Master Xehanort’s” apprentice, but he doesn’t remember.
How does that sound? Any opinions?
on 23 Mar 2008 at 3:17 am 624. Ven Unvinsible
Tazimus Prime: So do you think i will be inportant to buy Birth By Sleep?
on 23 Mar 2008 at 3:18 am 625. Ven Unvinsible
Tazimus Prime: it’s***
on 23 Mar 2008 at 5:22 am 626. Tazimus Prime
Ven Unvinsible: I think it would be good to buy it. Birth by Sleep is going to answer many question associated with Kingdom Hearts, and will reveal a clue as to what will happen in the future of the series.
BrinkofDawn: Well I have always been under the impression that Master Xehanort’s apprentice was Xehanort. Why cover the apprentice’s face in the first place if he isn’t someone important? Also Xehanort stole Ansem’s name, so maybe he also stole Master Xehanort’s name too.
on 23 Mar 2008 at 5:09 pm 627. Ven Unvinsible
Tazimus Prime: Thank you
on 24 Mar 2008 at 5:15 am 628. BrinkofDawn
I’m also suspicious about Terra. I was thinking either “Master Xehanort’s” apprentice could connected to “Xehanort” or Terra could be connected to “Xehanort”. I know Terra is supposed to be connected to Riku but I like how Terra’s hairstyle looks alot like “Xehanort’s” if anyone noticed that. The regular human “Xehanort” I mean^^
on 24 Mar 2008 at 7:41 am 629. Tazimus Prime
BrinkofDawn: Well I think it should be pointed out that that Nomura has said that Terra, Aqua, and Ven have never appeared in the Kingdom Hearts series in any way prior to KH2FM+. Which means that Terra can’t be Xehanort because Xehanort as a whole person appeared in KH2 as a whole person before in a flash back sequence.
on 24 Mar 2008 at 7:25 pm 630. darky
its hard to tell if you are good or bad
on 24 Mar 2008 at 7:27 pm 631. darky
its hard to tell if you are good or bad?
on 24 Mar 2008 at 10:35 pm 632. .:sora's chain:.
Tazimus Prime: im confused!
on 25 Mar 2008 at 1:30 am 633. BrinkofDawn
Tazimus Prime: I was aware of that, I just thought it was funny how their hairstyle looked alike.
That and the fact that Terra’s eyes turned yellow at the end of the secret ending in FM2+ just got me thinking. There are possibilites open regardless of what people say of course. I remember before Zelda Twilight Princess even showed pictures that the game was initially supposed to look like Wind Waker, but then look.
Oh, don’t mind me, just have idea’s going^^
on 25 Mar 2008 at 1:31 am 634. BrinkofDawn
Tazimus Prime: I was aware of that, I just thought it was funny how their hairstyle looked alike.
That and the fact that Terra’s eyes turned yellow at the end of the secret ending in FM2+ just got me thinking. There are possibilites open regardless of what people say of course. I remember before Zelda Twilight Princess even showed pictures that the game was initially supposed to look like Wind Waker, but then look.
Oh, don’t mind me, just have idea’s going^^ Continue…
on 25 Mar 2008 at 7:19 am 635. Tazimus Prime
.:sora’s chain:.: What are you confused about?
on 25 Mar 2008 at 2:44 pm 636. Needsugarkain
BrinkofDawn you brought up a point i saw from a different post. About the person only remembering the name Xehanort and so took it as his own. What we were saying was that Terra could have become so obsessed with destroying master xehanort that it took over his being and in their final battle he could have won but the battle took its tool on him and somehow he ended up in radient garden, where ansem the wise found him. Battle ravaged and with no memoriesd but that of his obsessions name he took it as his own and then again found his way into darkness, the first time being his hatred for MX.
I was also thinking that it could be the xehanort from KH1 and 2 is the apprentice. it seems like it could go either way
on 25 Mar 2008 at 4:13 pm 637. .:sora's chain:.
Tazimus Prime: what u said about terra being
Xehanort or something like that
on 25 Mar 2008 at 9:20 pm 638. Emzii
When is it coming out?!
on 26 Mar 2008 at 12:38 am 639. Tazimus Prime
Needsugarkain: It really can’t go either way. It either going to be Master Xehanort or his apprentice.
.:sora’s chain:.: I was saying that Terra can’t be Xehanort. The reason being because Nomura has already said it isn’t him. However not in the way you think. Nomura said in an interview before KH2FM+ was released and said that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were completely new and never shown up before. This means Terra can’t be Xehanort because we have seen all forms of Xehanort. We’ve seen heartless Xehanort, nobody Xehanort, and complete Xehanort. This practically eliminates Terra from the list of suspects that could be the real Xehanort.
on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:35 pm 640. .:sora's chain:.
Tazimus Prime:…oh ok i get it, thanks!
on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:21 pm 641. Mai
Sora means ‘Sky’, not ‘Wind’ and some people speculate that ‘Ven’ is short for ‘Ventus’ which means ‘Wind’… and Riku means ‘Land’ or ‘Shore’… It’s also noted that Ven looks a lot like Roxas…
on 28 Mar 2008 at 1:01 am 642. yay Orginization XIII!
when’s this game comin out?
on 28 Mar 2008 at 1:08 am 643. yay Orginization XIII!
wait, could terra be riku’s father, ven be sora’s and aqua be kairi’s mother? then they’d all be able to wield the keyblade right?
on 28 Mar 2008 at 6:07 pm 644. .:sora's chain:.
yay Orginization XIII: eh i dont no about that, i mean they dont even look like riku, sora and kairi really
on 28 Mar 2008 at 7:21 pm 645. THE DON
Yo guys remember at the beginning of Kh2 One of the org 13 members where talikning to roxas and asked him if he remembered his true name. What if it wasn’t roxas but ven!! I dunno just a guess…
on 28 Mar 2008 at 7:41 pm 646. yay Orginization XIII!
THE DON: that cant be true.. it looks like ven dies in the birthby sleep trailor and that was 10 years before sora even got the keyblade, let alone turn in to a heartless and back.
on 28 Mar 2008 at 9:40 pm 647. .:sora's chain:.
apparently after ven is frozen u see his eyes move. I cant see it but…
on 29 Mar 2008 at 5:32 pm 648. rikufan456
i can’t wait for this game when is it coming out?
on 29 Mar 2008 at 10:01 pm 649. yay Orginization XIII!
prolly around november roughly
on 30 Mar 2008 at 2:24 am 650. BrinkofDawn
The Don: Ven didn’t die, his eyes were still moving in the trailer. No one knows if he dies or not so I suggest any further reference to anyone dying make a logical point.
Also, I really wish people stop asking when is it coming out. Take the time to read the previous posts please. It hasn’t been confirmed yet so Yay Organization you’re probably wrong.
Tazimus Prime: I do agree with you that Terra is a brand new character never seen in the previous KH or mentioned in any other way and I do believe that he may not be Xehanort nor do I imply that he is. However, there is always that possibility that Terra “could” be Xehanort. It’s only a theory that seems logical. Terra as a character has never appeared in previous KH titles but if he could be portrayed as a different character I do believe that he’s still on the list of suspects worthy of suspicion of being Xehanort. Nomura did say that he’d never shown up before nor has Ven or Aqua, but just note some of the interesting detials they put into the links between characters.
For example, Ven and Roxas are completely different characters, yet Ven has never appeared before in the KH storyline till now and looks alot like Roxas. I’m sure story related events are the answer to that question, but Terra could have that same relationship if he “could” in fact be Xehanort. Terra in a different form. Do you see why I would still suspect him? Just because a character hasn’t shown up before doesn’t mean it’s unlikely they’re part of a deeper character.
Note that I don’t believe that I’m right but the possibility is open. I have a stronger belief that Master Xehanort’s apprentice is in face the Xehanort portrayed in KH2. I just wanted to explain why I still suspect Terra like I do Master Xehanort’s apprentice.
on 30 Mar 2008 at 3:09 pm 651. yay Orginization XIII!
if you think about it terra might be Xehanort, because ansem found Xehanort half dead with no memeory, we never saw the end or the chaisers movie, maybe terra got the crap kicked out of him (and lost his memory) and ended up in radiant gardens. terra might have changed his name ( stealing his X-masters name) to Xehanort. and terra’s eyes turn yellow when kingdom hearts appears, maybe he saw it and got obsessed with trying to obtain its ultimate power (just like Xehanort’s heartless and Xemnas). then he remebered that and tried to obtain it again as Xehanort. then he turns into a heartless and takes his master’s name, ansem, (do you see a pattern?) then as a nobody trys to get kingdom hearts again. then in “the room of sleep” video ,as Xemnas(we think), he lights up the chains and you see aqua’s armor and he says “it’s been a while” meaning HE MUST KNOW AQUA!! and it all adds up!kinda. im prolly wrong so dont flip out.
on 30 Mar 2008 at 3:12 pm 652. yay Orginization XIII!
about my last comment, he says “it’s been a while,” “my friend” so he has to have a connection with aqua
on 30 Mar 2008 at 3:13 pm 653. yay Orginization XIII!
“its been a long time”** my bad. my link kind of explains alittle.
on 30 Mar 2008 at 9:17 pm 654. Skittlez
I was told that the game comes out in three years!
on 31 Mar 2008 at 1:27 am 655. Roxas.X
i cant wate 3 freakin years!!!
on 31 Mar 2008 at 2:41 am 656. BrinkofDawn
Three years maybe, it would seem likely coming from the FF crew, but it might not. Like I said, it hasn’t been confirmed.
on 31 Mar 2008 at 6:00 pm 657. xero345
hope the this game comes out soon….
heres a couple predictions one is that that bald guy is Xehanort and that armored thing he made is the first heartless, im guessing the game is a prequle since sora and riku are shown as younger kids and did
anyone noticed that if take the X out Xehanort like with anyone from the organization and move the reamaing letter you get there orginal name ex: roXas
= sora you get Noheart hmm something to think about
on 31 Mar 2008 at 10:49 pm 658. pat
if u look at Xehanort and take away the x and then u switch the letters around it says “no heart”
on 01 Apr 2008 at 7:19 pm 659. .:sora's chain:.
xero345: that isent the same with kairi and namine though. namine should of been called ikair or something like that lol
on 01 Apr 2008 at 7:45 pm 660. michael t.
i hear the new enemies will be called “chasers”,and be made from people’s minds or souls.ive seen a picture of one too,they look kind of like heartless and nobodies put together but glowing.
on 01 Apr 2008 at 7:45 pm 661. michael t.
i hear the new enemies will be called “chasers”,and be made from people’s minds or souls.ive seen a picture of one too,they look kind of like heartless and nobodies put together but glowing
on 02 Apr 2008 at 12:03 am 662. yay Orginization XIII!
wheres the picture
on 02 Apr 2008 at 12:36 am 663. BrinkofDawn
Yay Organization XIII: look at the scan of BBS at the things Terra is fighting. Those are the new creatures I suppose…
on 02 Apr 2008 at 5:25 pm 664. .:sora's chain:.
u cant really see that well what heres fighting, they just look like the shadow heartless things
on 02 Apr 2008 at 8:50 pm 665. yay Orginization XIII!
i know its been asked 123456789 times but whens this game comin out?
on 02 Apr 2008 at 10:11 pm 666. Roxas.X
Man i have to get a PSP dang i hope i can aford it…when is it comin out?
on 02 Apr 2008 at 10:27 pm 667. Soroxas
Okay, could all the spoiled little kids stop braggin about having a PSP, mobile phone AND PS3! We don’t care! Good for you! Also, Roxas is not related to Ven, so stop implying that or stating that false fact!
on 02 Apr 2008 at 10:29 pm 668. Soroxas
The thing I don’t get is who the bald guy could be? Is that Xehanort, because the rumors say that Ansem the Wise found him in Radiant Garden, so maybe that was after this whole conflict during Birth by Sleep.
on 02 Apr 2008 at 10:59 pm 669. Soroxas
Okay, based on the trailers I’ve watched and rumors I’ve heard, I think I might predict some things about Kingdom Hearts 3 and Birth by Sleep. This is my first theory, so don’t be too harsh.
Before Sora’s lifetime, there was a keyblade war, fought between keyblade wielders. The Chasers are the inventors and masters of the keyblade. The Bald Guy in the trailer is Xehanort, and he fights three of the leaders of the Chasers because they want to stop the war. He needs the war to continue so there will be no keyblade wielder to prevent him from opening Kingdom Hearts. If he succeeded, however, it would destroy the forces of both light and darkness. Terra, one of the chasers, was killed by Xehanort, and he kept her armor (based off a scene I found of an Organization 13 guy near her chaser armor). He eventually was defeated by Ven, Aqua and King Mickey, and the 2 leaders banished him to Radiant Garden, as well as erasing his memory. They hoped that he would learn from trying to destroy the world. Ansem found Xehanort, and trained him until he left. When he left, some his ancient powers came when he became a heartless. His heartless and nobody were defeated by Sora. The letter from King Mickey that Sora received spoke of the forces of light trying to rid the worlds of darkness completely (this is based off the discussion of light and darkness with Xemnas in the World that Never Was in KH2). If this succeeds, the hearts of the world will be unbalanced, and everything may start to fall apart. Because of warriors of light being the new threat, Sora, Riku and Kairi must learn the power of darkness. When they learn this, they set off to fight the new enemies.
This is just a starting theory. Comment and in your opinion, say what changes you think should be made. Sorry for the long comment…
on 02 Apr 2008 at 11:10 pm 670. Soroxas
OKay, I found proof that Xehanort is the bald guy or the man in the mask in the Birth by Sleep trailer. Notice that at the end he looks at Terra’s (or one of the tree armored warriors in the Birth by Sleep trailer’s) armor and he says “It’s been a long time, my friend”. This means that he killed that keyblade weilder, which means he must be the bald guy. He might be the masked guy, but the guy in red and black with teh mask seemed to be a generated heartless that came out of the bald guy or something. Any input on this? I’m not entirely up to date with the 3 main characters in Birth By Sleep.
on 02 Apr 2008 at 11:32 pm 671. Soroxas
Just had another thought. In the extended trailer for Birth By Sleep, a man in red and black armor emerges from the bald guy. This website describes the bald guy as “Master Xehanort” based on what Terra said. So, maybe this red and black armor person is his Nobody. Xehanort may have become a heartless before he met Ansem the Wise. He may have become a heartless before or during the Keyblade War. Also, the trailer mentions the lost two, so maybe his Xemnas, his nobody, was also an associate of Venn, Aqua and Terra. This means that even though they used the power of darkness, they were still associated with those who use light. Light and Darkness could be allies based off the conversation in the World That Never was in KH2 between Riku, Donald, Goofy, Sora, Kairi, Mickey and Xemnas. Riku said they’re only afraid of the darkness because of who lurks inside. Following this philosophy, Xehanort may have become a heartless, but when his memory was erased by the other keyblade masters, he was turned back to the way he previously was. It’s possible to make a heartless human again, based on how Kairi made Sora normal in KH1. So, maybe when he was turned back to normal, he started to grow hair.
This is just a theory.
on 03 Apr 2008 at 4:55 am 672. BrinkofDawn
Soroxas: Roxas and Ven are not related, but they are both related to Sora… so in some sense they are related. Terra is supposed to be related to Riku and Kairi to Aqua.
I like your story, but most of your information is kinda out of wack. The red and black guy isn’t a Nobody because he has a Heartless symbol on him. The most theorized assumption about that particular person is that he is either a Heartless or Master Xehanort’s apprentice.
In the FM+ Xemnas sits in front of Aqua’s armor, not Terra’s.
on 03 Apr 2008 at 7:17 am 673. hippie
dude im so high
on 03 Apr 2008 at 7:17 am 674. hippie
sw
on 03 Apr 2008 at 1:23 pm 675. Soroxas
Brink of Dawn: You’re right, I really am not filled in on too much of this. The only real way that anyone will know exactly what happens is when the game comes out.
on 03 Apr 2008 at 4:45 pm 676. Varxtis
I don’t know if anyone has had the opportunity to play FF VII CC for PSP yet, but I SWEAR that it has increased my anxiousness for Kingdom Hearts BBS. I was originally skeptic of the level of quality that they could achieve with a KH game on the PSP. But CC has reassured me and given me an understanding on what we can look forward to. I’m happy to see that they will be able to incorporate such a high level of graphics and even the amount of fully CG cut scenes. ITS GOING TO BE SOOOO GREAT ^_^
on 03 Apr 2008 at 7:14 pm 677. .:sora's chain:.
ive played ffVII cc…a bit dull
on 03 Apr 2008 at 11:36 pm 678. jasp
hey in birth by sleep video the three guys in the armor they walk over to other keyblades that look some what like the keyblades that riku,sora,and i guess Kairi’s (ive never really seen her’s if she has one)
on 03 Apr 2008 at 11:40 pm 679. jasp
any thoughts on that??
on 04 Apr 2008 at 3:42 am 680. BrinkofDawn
jasp: I don’t know about the significance of those keyblades, but if you compare the secret ending in KH2 and the extended secret ending in FM+, in FM+ they’re no longer holding the keyblades they picked up.
In my opinion, I think drawing the keyblades from the ground was just a form of symbolism. Of what? I don’t know…
on 04 Apr 2008 at 3:43 am 681. BrinkofDawn
Soroxas: It’s cool. If you want to find more detail then read Nomura’s statements and the information at the top about the general story so far^^
on 04 Apr 2008 at 10:00 am 682. Dragons 2209
BrinkofDawn I think the reason that the three figures pull the three keyblades from the ground is because they are all didn’t, that they symbolise that paths that the keyblade wielders have chosen. For example, Sora has choose the road of light, Riku choose darkness but then choose a different road, the road to dawn. This is only my theory. But I have to mention that Kairi also wields a keyblade and so does Mickey but I’m not sure that they are called.
on 04 Apr 2008 at 5:36 pm 683. TheOrganizer
This is just my thinking. I think that King Mickey’s Keyblade is the Twilight Keyblade and Kairi’s Keyblade is the Keyblade of Darkness. I’m not sure.
on 04 Apr 2008 at 8:23 pm 684. .:sora's chain:.
jasp: kairi does have a key blade, its in a cutscene
its got all flowers over it
on 04 Apr 2008 at 8:24 pm 685. .:sora's chain:.
isent mickeys key blade called dark side?
on 05 Apr 2008 at 3:52 pm 686. Dragons 2209
I don’t think Mickey’s key blade called dark side. The reason I think this, is if you look at the keyblade closely it assembles Yen Sid and we know that Mickey was his apprentice before he became king and he gain the gold keyblade. So the keyblade can’t be called dark side because Yen Sid is good not bad or dark, so the name must relate to it’s magical properties. This is only my theory.
on 05 Apr 2008 at 7:44 pm 687. yay Orginization XIII!
uhm, mickeys keyblade is the starseeker.
on 05 Apr 2008 at 9:13 pm 688. yay Orginization XIII!
my links super =D
on 05 Apr 2008 at 9:17 pm 689. Clowde
Wow, So much i now have to cover for you people…Ok lets begin
1. The Three keyblades taken out of the ground by the 3 knights are King Mickeys Keyblade(the Gold one), Riku’s Keyblade and Soras Keyblades.
2. Before King Mickey was a king he was teh apprentice of master Yen Cid and used the keyblade “Star Seeker” That is the keyblade we see King Mickey holding at teh end of the trailer. It is also the keyblade sora gets when he visits master Yen Sid’s Tower. King Mickey Then Gets the keyblade from the “Realm Of Darkness” (thatd be the gold keyblade)thats apperently what he spent most of his time during Kingdom hearts 1.
3. Rikus Keyblade is “The Way To The Dawn and is teh keyblade of twighlight, remember Riku chose the path of darkness AND light, meaning his keyblade is a mixture of both.
4.The Old Bald man has been revealed to be “Master Xehanort” And Apperently is a keyblade master.
on 05 Apr 2008 at 9:26 pm 690. Clowde
Wow, So much i now have to cover for you people…Ok lets begin
1. The Three keyblades taken out of the ground by the 3 knights are King Mickeys Keyblade(the Gold one), Riku’s Keyblade and Soras Keyblades.
2. Before King Mickey was a king he was teh apprentice of master Yen Cid and used the keyblade “Star Seeker” That is the keyblade we see King Mickey holding at teh end of the trailer. It is also the keyblade sora gets when he visits master Yen Sid’s Tower. King Mickey Then Gets the keyblade from the “Realm Of Darkness” (thatd be the gold keyblade)thats apperently what he spent most of his time during Kingdom hearts 1.
3. Rikus Keyblade is “The Way To The Dawn and is teh keyblade of twighlight, remember Riku chose the path of darkness AND light, meaning his keyblade is a mixture of both.
4.The Old Bald man has been revealed to be “Master Xehanort” And Apperently is a keyblade master. And this is a direct quote off of a website
“Birth By Sleep takes place about 10 years before the original Kingdom Hearts. Before Sora wielded the Keyblade, there were other Keyblade masters. One of these masters, Xehanort, disappeared one day along with his apprentice. Another master of the keyblade saw this as a sign of terrible things to come. So he ordered his three apprentices (Terra, Ven and Aqua) to seek out Xehanort and his cohort”
After reading that its easy to see that the 3 knights are Apprentices, ans the old man / Master Xehanort is the Keyblade master they are chasing( this might be why they are called chasers) and the Black suit dude might be the old guys apprentice.
on 05 Apr 2008 at 9:26 pm 691. Clowde
Sorry for teh double post…..i really dont know what happened there
on 05 Apr 2008 at 9:35 pm 692. yay Orginization XIII!
yeah i knew all that…
but my link explains how xemnas/ansem/xehanort is terra. read what xigbar is saying. then look up ” Kingdom hearts III birthby sleep teaser” it’ll explain alot!
on 07 Apr 2008 at 12:18 am 693. missing_link
ok, since we all know all of this backround stuff, lets move on to what birth by sleep is going to be about, lie the main purpose of the game. one of my theories is that the letter we see sora kairi and riku reading is from mickey explaining every thing we see in the trailer, and saying that Xehanort has come back/resurfaced and that he needs to be stopped. now i might be worng, but hen it wiull say something about having more help (meaning ven terra and aqua) and those will be the people we play as. this is just my thinking, feel free to reply what you think.
on 07 Apr 2008 at 4:08 am 694. BrinkofDawn
Clowde: I agree with what you have stated and it is pretty much at sync with what I believe as well.
As for the main storyline of BBS, I believe it explains how Terra is somehow tied to Riku and how Riku came about being controlled by Maleficent. From what screenshots I have seen, Terra and Maleficent are talking to each other in Sleeping Beauty’s world. In my own theory, I think that the reason Terra’s eyes glow yellow at the end of the extended ending may be due to meetings with Maleficent and Terra being drawn into the influence of darkness.
This may be somewhat obvious too. I don’t know if some people are aware of this theory though so I address it now.
Also, has anyone noticed there aren’t any in-game screenshots of Aqua yet?
on 07 Apr 2008 at 9:41 am 695. Dragons 2209
I have my own theory, I agree with what you are saying but I also believe that it will be explained more to why Riku was chosen to have the keyblade instead of Sora. As Terra says to Sora in kingdom hearts final mix, says something like why isn’t it him! We know why Sora was chosen instead because Riku choose darkness, so it would be interseting to why they chose Riku and possible Maleficent heard about him and choose to have him instead.
on 07 Apr 2008 at 10:01 pm 696. sora
hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi peoples whats up
on 08 Apr 2008 at 4:54 pm 697. Insane to the end
When is this game coming out!!!!!!
I am soooo getting it the first day its out!!!!
on 09 Apr 2008 at 9:28 pm 698. RIKU _ WANNABE
BOOOOOOOO YAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH……
I HAVE A PS3
I JUST GOT A PSP
THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT
on 09 Apr 2008 at 9:29 pm 699. RIKU _ WANNABE
BOOYAH
on 13 Apr 2008 at 12:50 am 700. confused
when is the next English version of kingdom hearts II final mix or chain of memories coming out for US please get back….post on here or email at usawrestler02(at)yahoo(dot)com
on 15 Apr 2008 at 12:57 am 701. -KeybladeSleepingLeon- from Youtube
Man, I’m crazy about this game! I can’t wait! There is some rumours that it will come out in USA March 2009. . . . .
Yea!
on 16 Apr 2008 at 5:21 am 702. Axel
Weird this is like http://www.thekingdomhearts.com
on 18 Apr 2008 at 7:05 pm 703. uchiha madara
i wish people would stop posting til they read the things that already have been said so we dont get the same stupid idiotic comments over and over. TERRA VEN AND AQUA HAVE NO BLOOD RELATIONS TO SORA RIKU AND KAIRI!!! ROXAS IS NOT VEN BECAUSE HE IS THE NOBODY OF SORA AND THEREFORE WASNT EVEN CREATED TIL 10 YEARS AFTER BIRTH BY SLEEP TAKES PLACE!!! if people were patient enough to read instead of making opinions based off nothing this frikkin message board would get a lot more done.
ps i dont no if tazimus prime still uses this site but u and blackheart r the only ones that even come close to making sense
on 18 Apr 2008 at 7:08 pm 704. uchiha madara
ps this is wat part of the alphabet would look like if q and r were eliminated lol
on 19 Apr 2008 at 11:39 am 705. fhen heart
i bought all the consoles compatible for playing KH just so i can play it. i sooooo love Kingdom Hearts! oh Tetsuya, you are such a genius!
on 19 Apr 2008 at 7:47 pm 706. Killer Snowman
well dude its awsome to think of the third sequal but in two frakin years i cant wait that long but im sure im not the only one but oh well its worth the wait lol
see me on myspace for kingdom hearts stuff
lol
again
on 20 Apr 2008 at 2:16 am 707. t-mayne
does anybody else get the feeling that Aqua might just be kiri’s (or how ever you spell it) grandma becuase i remember her saying that her grandma knew something about radiant garden and what not and some other stuff i cant remember but it does seem likely
on 20 Apr 2008 at 2:32 am 708. t-mayne
and another thing they are going to start up working on the bbs project since the final fantasy project is done so we should b seeing some new stuff in like 3 months considering the staff are back from their vacations
on 20 Apr 2008 at 9:18 pm 709. Maylantis
BBS is sooow cool! iwant to buy it!
on 20 Apr 2008 at 11:56 pm 710. S.I
Listen people this is going to be cool but without any backround knowlege you r hope less so if you need questions answered contact me at [edited]
on 21 Apr 2008 at 1:43 am 711. Maylantis
let see, the girl have the heir blue of the video of BBS.She is the mother of Sora Riku and Kairi?
on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:31 pm 712. uchiha madara
taz prime: i kno this question never gets answered cuz many people have asked it already, (yes i have read ever single comment) but where do u get your info. i cant find the scene of terra watching sora and riku or a lot of other things talked about. all i know is what i have gathered from the games and the few interviews i have read. speaking of which, if one more person says terra is someones father im gonna frikkin cause a mass genocide to everyone who thinks so lol
on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:46 pm 713. yay Orginization XIII!
okay, im still confused on if terra’s xehanort or not. i know like 123456 people are gunna like out cause they said the chasers are all new. but my like explains out he HAS TO be! terra takes his masters name (xehanort), then as a heartless takes his other masters name (ansem). pattern? lol
on 22 Apr 2008 at 12:40 am 714. sora lol im sora
Please Please I’m Praying That You Make Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep For Nintindo Wii Please Please Please
on 22 Apr 2008 at 1:10 pm 715. Sooner Or Later
Have any trailers or has a release date come out conserning birth by sleep???
on 23 Apr 2008 at 10:41 pm 716. keyblade master
I can’t wait for this game to come out
on 25 Apr 2008 at 3:55 am 717. kvizzle
Bbs is only for PSP
and they said that there will be YOUNG Sora and Riku in BbS. Also young didney characters. the battle system is lik Chain of Memories with the decks.
on 25 Apr 2008 at 9:04 pm 718. Lolzor
lolzor kewl this makes PSP worth having
on 26 Apr 2008 at 12:38 pm 719. Birth by sleep
Does anyone know when birth by sleep will be released?
on 26 Apr 2008 at 2:59 pm 720. Axel8
if u watch the secret ending u see Ven take way to dawn?!
mabye he is connected to riku some how?
on 26 Apr 2008 at 5:35 pm 721. Dokuro
Dosn’t Sora mean sky and riku mean land? O.o
on 27 Apr 2008 at 1:01 am 722. Kairi x Sora
Sora means sky, actually. I thought it would be cool at first, but…It’s all about the Keyblade War, like it says in the alternate ending in KH2.
on 27 Apr 2008 at 4:48 pm 723. Axel8
I FIGURED IT OUT THE CONNECTION BETEWEEN ROXAS, VEN AND SORA!!!
Rember in KH1 in the begining a voice was talking to sora in that dive into heart thing? And remeber riku was orgialnaly the true key bearer but he went to the darkness?
well i think that Terra was goning to give the keyblade to Riku and when Ven said “i hope you don’t need me”(i dont know the exact words)he was reffering to if somthing happned to Riku. So when Riku went to darkness it was Vens job to give the Keyblade to Sora and so Ven went into Soras heart thats why he could talk to him in Dive into heart and give him the keyblade. So when Sora became a heartless it looked simlilar to Ven. Thus explaining Roxas and when Roxas went into Dive into heart the same voice talked to him.
on 27 Apr 2008 at 4:52 pm 724. Axel8
Ok i found out the exact words Ven said “please dont depend on me”
on 27 Apr 2008 at 4:54 pm 725. Axel8
NVM Terra said it damn there went my enitre theroy and the one way to stop this arguing
mabye if we pooled our ideas toghther then we would figure it out?
on 27 Apr 2008 at 5:48 pm 726. Axel8
uchia madra:since taz seems to have left the site i dub thy Uchia Madra Prime
Lolz
on 27 Apr 2008 at 11:36 pm 727. SORAxROXAS 4 ED-ER
I WANT IT NOW 2 COOL!!! I LUV KINGDOM HEARTS!!! U STINK FOR WHO EVER HATES IT!!! >8-@
on 28 Apr 2008 at 1:27 am 728. Charlie
i think it would be neat if we could figure this out lol
on 28 Apr 2008 at 5:54 pm 729. uchiha madara prime
Axel8: thank u i respectfully accept this promotion lol
on 28 Apr 2008 at 9:58 pm 730. soraminson
hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi im im im im im im im im sora sora sora sora
on 28 Apr 2008 at 9:59 pm 731. soraminson
is iny one there
on 28 Apr 2008 at 11:40 pm 732. yay Orginization XIII!
who died and mad that dude king? lol
on 28 Apr 2008 at 11:59 pm 733. Axel8
thats it im going to change my name
on 29 Apr 2008 at 12:00 am 734. Keyblade Knight Terra
my new name
on 29 Apr 2008 at 12:05 am 735. Keyblade Knight Terra
i think that there were like alot of keyblade weilders but the keyblade war started and alot of them were killed.
That explaians why there were all those keyblades in the ground in the trailer.
and why Sora,Riku and Mickey didnt run into anyone that even heard of one when in a trailer Xibar talks to Zexion about how a whole bunch of keyblade weildes came and fought i highly doubt ppl didnt see or hear about the war that no one on those worlds atleast didnt come into contact into one.
on 29 Apr 2008 at 5:43 pm 736. Tazimus Prime
My theory on why Ven and Roxas look alike:
The reason why Roxas and Ven look like because, in a purely physical sense, Sora’s body (and therefore Roxas’) is Ven’s body as well. Now just wait and hear me out. I believe at some point in Ven’s scenario in Birth by Sleep he is going to choose to sacrifice his body and give it Sora in order to save him from dieing. Now my reason for believing this is because of the following reasons:
1) Roxas looks just like Ven (which is the whole point of this theory). Now the reason I bring this up is because out of all the nobodies their are (at least that this can actually apply to which isn’t but two) comparatively Roxas is a drastic change in looks compared to Sora. Now the only other nobody that we know of that this happening to is Namine who was also made from Sora’s body and soul. So because the fact that she was born from Sora’s body and soul (this would explain why she looks like Roxas’ twin sister) means she can’t be used as an example because of that fact. Now we move to the only other Nobody that we can actually compare to and that is Xemnas and Xehanort. Now comparatively Xemnas and Xehanort look basically just like each other. There isn’t much change at all, if any. Which begs the question, why such a change for Sora?
2) Now Nomura said in regards to the connection between Sora and Ven think of how Sora and Roxas are connected. Well Roxas is Sora’s nobody and therefore Sora’s body and soul. That is their connection. So is Nomura saying that Sora’s body and soul belonged to Ven? Now of course this wouldn’t be the first time something like this has happened in the Kingdom Hearts series before. By this I mean another persons heart inhabiting another’s body. In fact two incidents happened in the same game. The game I’m talking about of course is Kingdom Hearts 1, and of course the two incidents are the times when Kairi’s heart went into Sora and when Xehanort’s Heartless took over Riku. Now when Kairi’s heart went into Sora there really wasn’t much of a change in Sora. Granted he started to question his sanity and was able to see flashbacks from her past, but not much of change. Now the Riku/Ansem incident is a different story. Now when Riku opened his heart to darkness Xehanort’s Heartless was able to enter his body and as we all know took over his body and used it as his own. Now when Riku’s will and Ansem will coincided in accomplishing the same goal Riku’s body remained unchanged*. However when Riku and Ansem were no longer of like minds Ansem exerted his will over Riku’s body and took complete control. This is when Riku’s body started to look like Xehanort. Now this shows that the body takes on the form of whoever’s will is stronger when two hearts inhabit the same body (For what is a Heartless other then a heart consumed by darkness). Now to support this part of theory when Riku exerted his will over Xehanort’s Heartless his body started to gain it’s form as Riku and Riku was able to hold Xehanort’s Heartless back and allow Kairi, Donald, and Goofy time to escape. When Xehanort realized that Riku’s will was stronger then his he banished Riku’s heart to the other side of the door to darkness while he was still in control. Thus Riku’s body took on the form of Xehanort permanently until Riku’s heart returned. So if Ven were to give up his body to Sora the body would naturally take the form of Sora because Ven’s heart would be absent from the body and wouldn’t have to contend for control over it.
Now when Sora gave up his heart to release Kairi’s he loses his body and soul which of course became Namine and Roxas. Without the presence Sora’s heart (and most of his memories) the body reverted back to its original form which is that of Ven, but with the little fragments of Sora’s memory that remained with the body they shaped Roxas’ personality thus making him different characteristically from Ven.
on 29 Apr 2008 at 10:47 pm 737. uchiha madara prime
this is the reason that i love u tazimus prime.. no homo lol. thats probably the only theory in this entire 736 comments that even has a possibility of being true. so i gotta question to ask u………will u be my fwieeeeeend lol
on 30 Apr 2008 at 1:39 am 738. Maylantis
I wathch a video and that video said BBS is coming soon?
on 30 Apr 2008 at 9:53 pm 739. Dark keyblade nigga
Is anyone here gonna 2 yrs for this game to come out?
on 01 May 2008 at 12:37 am 740. Keyblade Knight Terra
Taz: no offencie but ur theroy hurts my brain plz break it down and i still think there was a massive slaughter of Keyblade weilders.
I also think that the voice in Dive into Heart is Terra or Ven
P.S good ur back this place has been a mad house 0.o
on 01 May 2008 at 12:40 am 741. Keyblade Knight Terra
Lets pool our ideas together and lets try figuring it out.
on 01 May 2008 at 3:04 am 742. BrinkofDawn
Tazimus Prime: That is an excellent theory, both compelling and convincing.
I would like to ask your theory on the identity of Master Xehanort’s apprentice. Who do you think it is?
on 01 May 2008 at 1:01 pm 743. Keyblade Knight Terra
i think hes the Xeahnort that we all hate and killed.
he pry lost his memory after the fight and was than sent to radeint garden as a second chance.
on 01 May 2008 at 2:48 pm 744. Tazimus Prime
BrinkofDawn: He is probably going to be the Xehanort from KH1 and KH2. There not enough evidence yet for me to make a conclusive and in depth theory yet, but that is who I think it is going to turn out to be.
Keyblade Knight Terra: Ok I’m going to get really basic with this. Alright basically my theory states that Sora’s body use to belong to Ven. This is why Roxas looks like Ven. Now I have supplied evidence as to why this is in my theory. Which basically boils down to that Roxas and Ven looks just like each other and that the Heart influences the way the body looks. Now I can’t explain it better then that with out going into details, but that is a very basic (and I mean basic) explanation of theory.
on 01 May 2008 at 4:10 pm 745. Keyblade Knight Terra
Taz: TY
on 01 May 2008 at 4:19 pm 746. Keyblade Knight Terra
now i would like to bring up the note about how theres a voice in the Dive into Heart thing.
The identity remains unknown as to who or what the voice is so im throwing an idea out that it might be Terra. Or….. Terra,Ven, and Aqua’s master?!
it is possible since no one really brought him up and he could play an important role in the story.
you could comment on it i dont mind if any one says impossible i could think of another idea. Anyone else notice Xeahonrt-X= no heart, another?
on 01 May 2008 at 4:44 pm 747. uchiha madara
im changing my name back since taz came back lol
on 01 May 2008 at 4:53 pm 748. uchiha madara
but in regards to Keyblade Knight Terra’s question: i think that this is a possibility based on tazimus prime’s in depth discription on the heart controlling the physical characteristics of the body. although there is no proof that any of these theories are true i think that maybe there are still remnants of ven’s heart inside of sora. so when it came time to choose a new keyblade wielder it was kind of his job as a previous wielder to help sora along his path.
along with that, i haven’t actually played any of the final mix versions. but from what i hear during the fight with terra he says something about sora not being the one he chose (not exact but just something that i remember being said) that would give proof of it not being his voice. as for aqua there just hasnt been enough information to really prove or disprove her involvment in the dive into the heart intro. so ven seems to be the logical choice so far, but aqua is still a possibility or we could just be completely off and it could have just been some random voice. lol.
thats just my take on it so itd be nice if i could get a little bit of feedback on if it makes sense or not… thanks
on 01 May 2008 at 5:03 pm 749. uchiha madara
o and lastly yes we all already kno about the xehanort no heart/ another thing but nobody knows what it means yet… as far as i kno it could have nothing to do with his name at all. because if you think about a lot of the names didnt ONLY add an x to their names:
i think that bleig, dilin, ienzo, and eleus are meant to be the original names for xigbar xaldin vexen and lexaeus.
some only add an a along with x but some are really different:
how did vexen come out of any of those??? lol (i might be completely off on the name/character association lol but i think those names go together)
again help me out here cuz this site actually helps me to THINK id be stuck without it lol
on 01 May 2008 at 5:06 pm 750. uchiha madara
COMPLETELY disregard my last comment. i did some searching and found most of the names do make sense lol i figured i had it completely wrong. sorry about that guys
on 01 May 2008 at 5:44 pm 751. Tazimus Prime
Keyblade Knight Terra & uchiha madara: It’s just a random voice. The way you know this is because one of the major plot point of Kingdom Hearts 1 was that Sora was not suppose to receive the keyblade that night on Destiny Island. Riku was suppose to receive it. Which, according to one of my theories, is why Terra said you are not the one I chose, and mistakes Sora for Xehanort.
on 01 May 2008 at 7:13 pm 752. Keyblade Knight Terra
hmm…. makes sense but idk what Terra said cause i dont have FM so can u tell me what he said?
on 02 May 2008 at 2:38 am 753. Tazimus Prime
Before the fight with Terra he says this:
“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
on 02 May 2008 at 3:11 am 754. uchiha madara
but because he said that is the exact reason that i think it could ben ven. he could have jus happened to hear ven’s voice because he is a part of ven. i was saying that it definately isnt terra cuz terra didnt expect sora to even HAVE a keyblade. but if it does have to be a random voice i dont really see a reason why it wasn’t ven’s, based on the body usage theory.
on 02 May 2008 at 12:25 pm 755. Xebrem
then what conection has Riku got with every one? and Kairi? and I think the voice that Sora heard in KH1 is Kairi’s
on 02 May 2008 at 1:37 pm 756. Tazimus Prime
Well that fact that Riku was suppose to receive the keyblade throws a wrench into that theory. He was the one chosen not Sora. So if it was Ven’s voice he wouldn’t be talking to Sora in the first place because Sora wasn’t suppose to receive the keyblade. There is also the fact that Heartless are present in this sequence. If this would be Ven teaching Sora the Heartless would not be present because Heartless didn’t exist back when Ven was fighting.
on 02 May 2008 at 4:39 pm 757. uchiha madara
i never thought about the heartless part so that does make sense now. thanks.
so my next question is are there any ideas on who the person was who was talking to aquas armor? there are a lot of theories but none that are actually backed up and i was wondering if someone had some back up on the numerous theories made.
and please dont say its xehanort or terra only because he said its been a while or watever he said give me real proof if there is any
on 02 May 2008 at 6:14 pm 758. Tazimus Prime
uchiha madara: It’s Xemnas talking to Aqua’s armor. You can tell by the voice actor. Plus there is the scene after it were Zexion and Vexen talk in which Zexion says he is in there. The room itself is known as the Room of Sleep.
on 02 May 2008 at 9:30 pm 759. Keyblade Knight Terra
i relized that Terra is only an aprentice and i also saw the fight Terra Vs. Sora on Youtube so if he a aprentice how powerful arre the masters? and what rank does that make sora?
on 02 May 2008 at 11:03 pm 760. Tazimus Prime
Keyblade Knight Terra: Nomura has been quoted as saying that Sora is a Novice with the keyblade.
on 02 May 2008 at 11:37 pm 761. Keyblade Knight Terra
ok i didnt know that ty
i also have a mock theroy it more of a joke this is to ppl who think Terra and Aqua are Sora’s mom and dad and why he never saw there armor or keyblades
Sora:Dad whats whith this armor and werid keys?
Terra:Uhhhhh……those are mommys and daddys special keys uh……
Aqua:Ill handel it, Come on Sora lets go play at that castle over there
Sora:YAY!!
5 minutes later
Sora:what just happned?
Aqua:see now Sora lost all of his memory about keyblades in castle oblivion!!
Terra:who are you
Aqua:Doh!!
on 03 May 2008 at 3:57 am 762. evil indie
what if master xehanort becomes young xehanort at the end of bbs, and thats why xehanort only remembers his name when ansem finds. the same might go for ven and sora, like ven transfers his soul into sora, and thats why his nobody is similar to ven
on 03 May 2008 at 4:26 am 763. secrets to the keyblade
a couple of things i have notices are… -there are no full body shots of aqua meaning there is a big part to her or maybe they havnt made her proply yet…
and even though its sounds true but im pretty sure that the three knights (ven aqua terra) are not the parents of sora riku or kairi…. and a things i might have seen on this site ( i dont remember were i saw it) it says that terra was there wen riku and sora played together. but a clue if you play kh1 listen to soras mums voice and if it sounds like aqaus voice she just might be soras mum (though i dont beleive it) **remember** kairi came to the island a while after sora and riku. soo watch the part in kh1 where kairi is talking to her grandma…. see if aqua and her look alike its heaps of writing but i hope it helps
on 03 May 2008 at 6:15 pm 764. breana plattner
why is kingdom hearts III in robot looking form, why isn’t it in regular form like Kindom hearts I and II????
on 04 May 2008 at 1:32 am 765. missing_link
what about that guardian that is with master xehanort ?? is it sort of like ansem’s guardian, the same one, or something totally different???
also, have we established a any sort of time line for the series yet ? i think it would be beneficial if one was made.
on 04 May 2008 at 11:28 am 766. Dragons 2209
missing_link, birth by sleep is 10years before Sora gets his keyblade in Kingdom hearts 1, I hope this gives you some sort of time line.
on 04 May 2008 at 12:36 pm 767. Xebrem
Ok, this is the time line of the series:
Kingdom Hearts Birth by sleep - Kingdom Hearts - Kingdom Hearts CoM - Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days - Kingdom Hearts II - Kingdom Hearts III (if ever one is made)
on 04 May 2008 at 10:51 pm 768. Ven Unvinsible
Xebrem: There is 99.9% chance there is gonna be KINGDOM HEARTS 3. I think SQUARE ENIX made it clear they are.
on 04 May 2008 at 11:05 pm 769. sora45
what i relly want to know is when the kingdomhearts3 game comes out? im dieing to find out.it looks awesome!!!!!!!
on 05 May 2008 at 11:13 pm 770. Keyblade Knight Terra
sora45: as said many times it isnt even in production yet so we have to wait
on 06 May 2008 at 12:11 pm 771. Xebrem
I know a little bit about the new enemy, Chasers.
these little creatures resemble heartless, but are a deep shade of blue with red eyes. In a way they move like heartless and act like them, their forms are similar, but when injured the reaction is more of a nobody’s than a heartless. Their symbol (if they have one) is yet unknown.
The images I have seen, they come in similar forms of heartless. Most common are the blue ‘Neo Shadow’ look alikes that will most probably take the place of the basic shadow Heartless. Another image shows terra battling a larger Chaser that almost looks like a ‘Round Body’ Heartless except with a more triangular shape. Could these Chasers be the predecessors of Heartless? By the looks of their likeliness to the Heartless we cannot rule out that possibility.
on 07 May 2008 at 2:24 am 772. Keyblade Knight Terra
mabye the word “chasrers” has more meaning than we think and we could all be completely wrong
on 07 May 2008 at 8:14 am 773. Xebrem
Y’know if you look close at Terra’s belt, it’s a heartless symbol, and Ven has one too. I dunno what it means but I think it’s really unusual
on 07 May 2008 at 8:44 am 774. scarhead
the translation from japanese to english for sora is cloud not wind.
on 07 May 2008 at 8:46 am 775. scarhead
one other thing i think that they should make kh3 multi-platform so those of us with a 360 don’t have to dish out 500 dollars to play one of the best games made.
on 07 May 2008 at 11:47 am 776. Xebrem
another thing, on the original KHII secret ending, Terra, Ven and Aqua are in armour. Terra picks up Sora’s Keyblade, Aqua picks up King Mickey’s Keyblade and Ven Picks up Riku’s Keyblade… why? this is a bit messed up! shouldn’t Ven be the one picking up Sora’s Keyblade, not Terra?
on 07 May 2008 at 5:58 pm 777. uchiha madara
Xebrem: i think the reason is because terra’s keyblade was originally meant for riku but sora got it because of riku’s descent into darkness. as far as why ven picks up riku’s im not entirely sure. for all we know everything we’ve been talking about could be the exact opposite of whats really going to happen lol.
also i never noticed his belt but i guess i can take a look at some of the scans again. if its tru we might have a connection between him and khI/khII xehanort. i still think that the new one is the original apprentice there is no real connection between them besides the fight between Terra master xehanort
on 07 May 2008 at 11:20 pm 778. uchiha madara
along with that it could just not have anything to do with it at all because the secret ending of kh 1 wasnt meant for anything but they ended up working it into the story.
maybe that ending was the same because if u think about it in the actual trailer they dont have the three keyblades at all anymore
on 08 May 2008 at 12:20 pm 779. Xebrem
Ven’s heartless thing is harder to spot because it’s a zip not a belt, it wasn’t acctually me who saw it but my freind. Terra’s is real easy to see, it’s gold in colour and right in the middle on his belt
the best place to see these heartless things is in a scrren shot of Terra holding Ven in his arm, ven looks uncontious while Terra is summoning his keyblade. the world their in is Hollow Bastion (Raidiant Garden)
on 08 May 2008 at 11:23 pm 780. Keyblade Knight Terra
things just get more confusing the more we try to figure it out. mabye it wasnt the heartless sign before and Xeahornt is MX’s apperntance and he rember that insigna and thats what he used to lable artifical heartless
on 09 May 2008 at 12:33 am 781. kairi_baby_lol
ok hold up im am so confused whats the diference be tween kh1 kh2 and birth by sleep its so confuseing
on 09 May 2008 at 1:10 am 782. missing_link
could the heartless have stolen the sign from terra and ven, or could these two have been in control of them before…..idk, jsut trying to rant out some ideas….
and wait, i thought that the chasers were terra, aqua and ven ??? maybe im wrong, srry if i am,
on 09 May 2008 at 8:52 am 783. Xebrem
well, we don’t know if the heartless is in birth by sleep yet, they could be or the Lil’ blue chasers could BE them, we realy don’t know
on 09 May 2008 at 9:12 am 784. meeee!
kairi_baby_lol: kh2 is a follow up and birth by sleep is a prequal (before every game) =]
on 09 May 2008 at 9:23 am 785. Xebrem
yeah, you should read my timeline, KH and KH2 are both very different games
on 09 May 2008 at 9:24 am 786. meeee!
lovin it =] =P
on 09 May 2008 at 10:13 am 787. Dragons2209
The heartless are and not in birth by sleep, the enemies that we see Terra, Ven and Aqua fighting are not heartless, as we have been told by Nomura. We get to find out how the heatless becomes into being and who summons them. As for the heartless symbol being on Terra belt and Ven’s zip, this is unknown to why, as we don’t know what the symbol represents, as this is 10years before kingdom hearts 1 and 2, so all we know the symbol could represent the chasers/keyblade wielders and who ever summoned the heatless could either choose to use the symbol that the main charters are wearing or possible the heartless adopted the symbol, we do not know, we would have to wait for more information.
on 09 May 2008 at 11:27 am 788. just a random theory
ok heres wat i fink maybe the “lookalike roxas IS soras dad and when roxas is created in KH1 he is created by his soul that passed down or was preserved in sora or sumfing like that”
DONT go off at me about its a stupid theory its just a possible suggestion and if you think about it it kinda does make sense.
on 09 May 2008 at 12:14 pm 789. Xebrem
just a random theory: no the lookalike Roxas or Ven is not Sora’s dad, sora was four years old then
Dragons2209: I think that Aqua also has a heartless insignia some where, but because there are no screen shots yet we just dont know. and I think it represents the keyblade wielders. Terra/Xehanort just forgot what it meant and used it to label the ‘Emblem heartless’
on 09 May 2008 at 3:51 pm 790. happybunny
i’ll be back on later luv yall!
on 09 May 2008 at 4:45 pm 791. Donald
I’m so upset that Kingdom Hearts 3 (or similar game) won’t be coming out on the PS3 for years! BTW I just bought a PS3 thats why I’m upset.
on 09 May 2008 at 5:32 pm 792. uchiha madara
just a random theory: nomura has already said that there is no blood relation between ven and sora. he also said that you can think of their relationship as similar to that of sora and roxas.
terra aqua and ven have no blood relation to sora riku and kairi. this has been stated numerous times throughout this message board so not to be mean but can people PLEASE read before they jus ask random questions because im really tired of seeing the same questions over and over again
on 10 May 2008 at 12:56 am 793. missing_link
hmm, that still puzzles me that the heartless symbol on ven, aqua and terra….well since we know that there are no heartless in BBS, could the symbol have some meaning behind it ??
are there any other things that anyone has picked out in any new information on BBS??
on 10 May 2008 at 1:20 am 794. Keyblade Knight Terra
Xebrem: why did u say Terra/Xeahort? do u beleve that Terra became him becuaes his eyes turn golden? Ansems eyes are golden too does that make him possed by Xeahornt too? i hate ppl who think that. it cant be Terra cause we fight him in KH2FM so its impposible to be Terra
on 11 May 2008 at 8:57 pm 795. BrinkofDawn
You know what I think would be really awesome? This may sound a little kidish to some people but the whole foundation of Disney was built from one man’s dreams to make people smile. This also may seem corny too, but I think Walt Disney should make an appearance in BBS or any other KH game.
Yeah I know he’s dead but that’s what voice actors are for and I think it’d be an awesome idea for one of the keyblade wielders Terra, Aqua, and Ven in BBS or Sora in another KH game to meet Walt Disney and be given a moving speech of great wisdom and morals that almost makes you want to cry because it sounds so good. What would be even cooler is if Walt Disney was the original king of Disney Castle and he’s the actual voice guiding Sora in the first KH.
Wouldn’t that be cool? Someone please agree with me^^
on 12 May 2008 at 1:53 am 796. Keyblade Knight Terra
BrinkofDawn: no, super fail
on 12 May 2008 at 7:59 am 797. Xebrem
Keyblade Knight Terra: I think that Terra may be Xehanort/Xemnas because the similarities in the face and hair is too much to be a coinincidence. Terra’s hair looks like Xemnas’/Xehanorts’ but brown and shorter, and I find that to be a big coinincidence. also the face as well. I have only played the original KH2, but I have still seen Xehanort (before battle of a 1000 heartless). his facial characteristics are almost identical to Terra
on 12 May 2008 at 6:23 pm 798. uchiha madara
im not going to give my opinion on that subject cuz thats one of those things that im really not sure of. at first i thought the apprentice became xehanort but the more i think about it the less i understand about it lol.
so as for right now dont beat up on xebrem for it… yet lol. cuz there are alot of things that we dont know about these people yet
my only question to xebrem is how can u explain the fact that nomura already said that the three characters havent ever been seen in a kingdom hearts game yet if u can give me a reasonable solution itll make me feel a bit better
on 12 May 2008 at 9:23 pm 799. Keyblade Knight Terra
also if xeahornt was terra how come he didnt use the keyblade a xemnas?
on 12 May 2008 at 9:23 pm 800. Keyblade Knight Terra
meant as not a
on 13 May 2008 at 12:27 am 801. aladdin
come on guys just please give us a sign that your ready to rlease birth by sleep
on 13 May 2008 at 12:56 am 802. BrinkofDawn
Keyblade Knight Terra: huh? What do you mean by that? I think it’d be a good idea.
on 13 May 2008 at 12:10 pm 803. Xebrem
well, even I don’t know If Terra is Xehanort, I am only guessing over images of Terra and compared them with images to Xehanort and Xemnas. I don’t what him to be Terra nor do I want to be wrong so don’t moan at me plaese!
on 13 May 2008 at 4:10 pm 804. BrinkofDawn
Xebrem: It’s alright^^ I theorized Terra might possibly be Xehanort a couple of pages ago even though Nomura said he was a brand new character. I think that just becuase he’s new doesn’t mean he can become someone else in the story. Just look and the Ven-Roxas thing.
Does anyone agree with the Walt Disney idea? I think it’s awesome^^
on 14 May 2008 at 12:15 am 805. Keyblade Knight Terra
no to walt disney they have Yen Sid which is disney backwards and i dont like the disney story to KH thats why i cant wate to get through those worlds to get to cool ones like hallow baston
also if Terra was/is possed Xeahonrtwouldnt he have the same thing Riku had on when he was possed and Riku’s eyes didnt change when he was possed meaning it cant be Terra
on 14 May 2008 at 2:09 am 806. BrinkofDawn
Yeah I know Yen sid is Disney backwards but that doesn’t mean Walt can’t make an appearance plus It’ll make it a real Disney/Final Fantasy crossover if it’d feature him. I think It’d be awesome. It keeps the true spirit of Disney going for those who appreciate the Disney aspect. I personally like it so….yeah^^
It’s a theory and nothing more. I actually believe Master Xehanort’s apprentice is the actual Xehanort seen in KH2’s flashback and he just took his master’s name since it may have been the only thing he could remember (like he did with Ansem). It’s only a theory that Terra could be Xehanort, not a very strong one, but still a theory some people believe. People can argue that it’s not Terra since he was an optional boss in KH2FM+ but that might have been all he was, optional and totally out of place with the story.
on 14 May 2008 at 7:55 am 807. Xebrem
I believe with that Theroy, BrinkofDawn. in finalmix+ I think(even though I have never played it) that Terra was a random, out of story character, a bit like Sephiroth in KHII
on 14 May 2008 at 8:16 am 808. sweetdanger13
i would love to play finalmix because there is loadza different extra battle that you can get and different area you could not go to on the original game =]
and maybe the terra battle was just an extra. =]
on 14 May 2008 at 12:05 pm 809. keyblade_bazooka
hello im new here
on 14 May 2008 at 12:06 pm 810. keyblade_bazooka
aparently theres a kh game on the wii comeing out soon
on 14 May 2008 at 1:02 pm 811. sora final form
sweet!!! its gonna be a really cool game just like the other kingdom hearts games!!!! but when will it be released?
on 14 May 2008 at 2:16 pm 812. Lightner
Hello
on 14 May 2008 at 10:44 pm 813. uchiha madara
there is no wii kingdom hearts game. and can we stop talking about the xehanort terra connection? cuz thats honestly just one of those things that noone will ever know without more info. theres good points going both ways and id rather not even talk about it just yet
on 15 May 2008 at 1:18 am 814. Keyblade Knight Terra
i know uchcia to say to leave it dead but ill just point out one thing
in KHFM we thought that the guy in black robes was optianl and random but we found out it was Xemnas so Terra must mean somthing if hes in KH2FM
on 15 May 2008 at 1:51 pm 815. Xebrem
I agrre with you, Keyblade Knight Terra.
on 15 May 2008 at 5:58 pm 816. uchiha madara
we already know that he IS something tho he is one of the three chasers in birth by sleep that doesnt automatically make him xehanort/xemnas tho
on 16 May 2008 at 1:27 am 817. Keyblade Knight Terra
im not saying that he is xemnas/xeahonrt i say he is not him im saying that in FM they give out a important person in the next game and not a random charter sated b4 by some1 else
on 17 May 2008 at 6:28 am 818. BrinkofDawn
Yeah, kinda like (but not a good example) how Sephiroth was only an optional boss in KH1 but got a bigger role in KH2. Yeah lets drop the Terra to Xehanort thing for a while. Information is usually given through the E3 conventions and Jump Festivals right? Does anyone know when the next E3 is?
on 17 May 2008 at 1:19 pm 819. sora final form
look what i thought! ansem the wise(DIZ) found his apprentice xehanort and made him his assistant with his research…. but xehanort had a blank memory and couldnt remember many things about his past…what i thougt is smth confusing and wierd…
yes….of course kingdom hearts birth by sleep talks about the past of kingdom hearts 10 years ago but…maybe xehanort is terra from the past an has lost his memory after the fight….what i also thought is that ansem the wise has tried to make xehonorts memory come back and may have tried putting him into a virtual reality world based on xehanorts memory…in this world xehanort was terra and maybe after the impact with his master, master xehanort, he lost his memory and got seperated by his other 2 teamates aqua and ventus,after that he was found by DIZ…but if that is true….in kingdom hearts 2 final mix + you can fight with terra by going into a portal….this portal if leads to the pastwhat i thougt is correct but if terra is an other character with some similarities to xemnas the leader of organization XIII then how can you fight terra while you can also fight xemnas?? and a final question…who do u think is the 14th member?
on 17 May 2008 at 6:03 pm 820. Keyblade Knight Terra
sora final form: i think in the secret ansem reports it says that he did do that.But you said in your theroy that we play as him in the vritual wolrd but this takes place b4 Ansem met him and also we play as Aqua and Ven cause the game is spereated into 3 parts Terra’s story,Ven’s story and the one we know least about Aqua’s story. So it couldn’t take part when Ansem is trying to discover Xeahornts memory if it takes place b4 they meet and it is said that Terra,Ven and Aqua only meet in a few parts of each of there storys and he couldnt have memorie of things that Aqua and Ven did.
but we should just leave this topic alone for abit
on 17 May 2008 at 6:53 pm 821. sora final form
yes but the thing is that the heartless and all this evil stuff nobodies and the organization started to pop up in the story because of diz and his research with the heart’s true essence…so by taking into consideration the things that i said b4, ansem and xehonort were met b4 kingdom hearts 1
so i thought that it had a connection with birth by sleep… hey…can u(im talking to all kingdom hearts fans)answer this question? in a secre sceen in kingdom hearts final mix + u see xemnas in hollow bastion leading in a room that in the game is not available,sitting in a chair or smth and looks ahead…,he sees an armor and a keyblade that is liying on the floor… then he says” its nice to see u aigain my old friend”. now the question is what connection xemnas has with the mysterious soldier aqua?because the armor was aqua’s… a second thought i had is that maybe xemnas is master xenahords apprentice from the past….the one with the suit that has some similarities to xehanorts hartless…. im sure u all have seen the part in the secret trailer when master xehanort is doubled and the other part of him that is created is his apprentice…and that the time xehanort was born, he was truly the nobody of master xehanort…he then fought terra,aqua,ventus and after the struggle he may was left confused and far from his master… then i think that was the time when diz found him…and now refering to the part in kingdom hearts final mix+ when he finds the armor…by talking to the owner of the armor as a friend he means it ironically trying to recall the fight with his 3 enemies where aqua was included too.
on 18 May 2008 at 10:27 am 822. sora final form
hey listen!….from what i have heard birth by sleep’s gameplay will be different from all the other kingdom hearts games. its not with cards like chain and re:chain of memories…its has to do something with commands…also there are no keychains for the caracter’s keyblade. u play with the original till u finish the game.rumors are heard to be released at the end of this fall in japan. i havent heard anything for the usa but no worries it is sure that it will also be released there
on 18 May 2008 at 12:16 pm 823. ....................
OMFG
i no wat square enix should do
wen birth by sleep comes out they should make a demo version downloadable on the playstationstore
cause u no its been on ps2 wich doesnt have any ability to go on browser or be able to download games online so wen birth by sleep and kh3 comes out then they should make demos before the release just to give us a little sneak peek and decide if the game is worth it
on 18 May 2008 at 12:28 pm 824. ....................
sora final form, i hav read bbs is goin to be released in 2009 for either jap or us im not sure its just wat i read
but yea kh3 is released 2010
if they are rong dont b**** at me its just dates ive read from many sites stating release so i put them 2gether to get an estimation
on 18 May 2008 at 3:53 pm 825. yay Orginization XIII!
yo does tazmus still go on this one?
on 18 May 2008 at 4:37 pm 826. Keyblade Knight Terra
sora final form: i agree with you about the oart with xeahonrt being the Dark soilder(i heard that was the name of Master X’s apprentcie)being the xeahornt we fight in KH1 and xemnas in KH2 but he isnt a nobody, heartless didnt exist then so nobodies dont ether
on 18 May 2008 at 4:38 pm 827. Keyblade Knight Terra
sora final form: i agree with you about the part with xeahonrt being the Dark soilder(i heard that was the name of Master X’s apprentcie)being the xeahornt we fight in KH1 and xemnas in KH2 but he isnt a nobody, heartless didnt exist then so nobodies dont ether
on 18 May 2008 at 6:31 pm 828. sora final form
hey i have heard smth that xemnas, roxas,and namine
are special nobodies…what about it? i dont know why they call them like that…and smth else…kairi never became a heartless so why namine is her nobody?
on 18 May 2008 at 10:52 pm 829. Keyblade Knight Terra
namine was made from Sora’s soul and Kairi’s heart
on 19 May 2008 at 12:42 am 830. Ven Unvinsible
Every Body: I haven’t been on for along time so I might have missed it but how can the letter that’s been given to Sora at the end of KH2 been for BBS. BBS happened way before Sora was born wasn’t it?
on 19 May 2008 at 1:58 am 831. missing_link
Ven Unvinsible: that brings up a question ive had: what DOES that letter regard exactly ??? that letter must mean that something/someone has resurfaced/been descovered and the dynamic trio must come aid the cause to end it. anybody got any theories ?????
on 19 May 2008 at 8:00 am 832. Xebrem
missing_link: I think that the lil’ blue heartless things you see in BBS have come back and Sora, Riku, Kairi and King Micky have to get rid of them. another theory I heard was that the darkness has grown too weak and that the Light has taken over meaning that there is an unbalence in the world now and that everybody (with a keyblad) has to help put it right. it’s jus’ two theories but anything could be possible!
on 19 May 2008 at 3:21 pm 833. sora final form
we will dont know till we see…so we have to wait for their release. do u have any questions? anything….i will be glad to answer
on 19 May 2008 at 3:28 pm 834. sora final form
hey have u noticed smth funny? in all the kingdom hearts series they call sora the keyblades chosen one but if u take a look at birth by sleep u also see many other caracters with keyblades and also riku and kairi has a keyblade too! is that ironical
on 19 May 2008 at 9:30 pm 835. Keyblade Knight Terra
Xebrem:actualy in KH2 in the begining the say they were going to elemnate all the darkness, so they would porbably get rid of the last of the darkness then try to bring it back
on 20 May 2008 at 6:07 pm 836. sora final form
smth that i have been thinking with my friends and couldnt find an answer is why mikey and riku wear the organization’s outfits? only those who are part of the organization wears them right? i think it wasnt for cover but for smth else…. theres an other explanation to this but what is it? if riku is the 14th member? look in a sceen in kingdom hearts final mix sora fights with roxas….sora refers somehow to his friend riku and instantly roxas answers:rinu….? i defeated a riku once and took his place…. does he mean that riku was the 13th member so long and roxas became the 14th? because in kingdom hearts 358/2 days the game talks about how roxas got into the organization….there will be shown who is the 14th member….but all those things happened when sora was asleep…. how are they all connected?
on 20 May 2008 at 9:49 pm 837. shadow15
In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days for Nintendo DS you will be able to play each character in the org. and i’m not sure about the fourteenth.
Roxas is not the fourteenth member because he is male the fourteenth was announced female, It is not Aqua or Namine but has connections in the storyline to them.
This isn’t a big deal but I suggest that you talk about Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days in the 358/2 days section and talk about Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep in in the Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep section.
on 21 May 2008 at 12:59 am 838. Keyblade Knight Terra
i feel sad uchia madara and taz left this chat for 358/2
on 21 May 2008 at 11:12 am 839. Xebrem
Can’t they do both???
on 21 May 2008 at 5:21 pm 840. uchiha madara
calm down im still here i do both now its just i havent heard anything interesting enough to respond to in a while
on 21 May 2008 at 11:33 pm 841. Keyblade Knight Terra
i think i ate to much dry wall and sugar its a great combination!!!! i made it myself!!!!
on 22 May 2008 at 1:27 am 842. forever war
this will be the best game ever i tell ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =]
on 22 May 2008 at 7:10 am 843. RaFiNhA
today is my birthday, and the best gift i could ever receive, is to know that KH is going to have a continuation, i’m very happy =p
i’m 18 today =p
anda sorry for my english xD
on 22 May 2008 at 12:01 pm 844. Normal Terra
I so exited to release the birth by sleep.
on 22 May 2008 at 3:08 pm 845. Aezuth
Hrmm, just browsing and the whole thing was just bugging me enough that I thought I’d sign up to join in the conversation and try and work this out. I read a few pages back, and noticed there hasn’t been any linking of the third enemy to the Xehanort Issue.
The first Idea that came to my mind is that Master Xehanort is the original, and the double he makes of himself is one of these (chasers?). And because chasers aren’t necessarily the same as Heartless or Nobodies, maybe they can have Heartless or nobodies of their own? So you have the original Human, Master Xehanort, who gives rise to the chaser Xehanort, who is split into Xemnas and Xehanort’s heartless. However, this theory is left with a huge hole when I take into account the end of the trailer where Terra’s eye’s change color and lead me to be more inclined to believe something more like Tazimus’ theory, which seems more solid.
Just thought I’d just offer this forward as a new possible perspective, hope this sparks further discussion, and I’d like to know what other people come up with. I’ll be around.
on 22 May 2008 at 8:15 pm 846. sora final form
hey aezuth: u mean that master xenahort is human right? i’ve been thinking… the name “xenahort” itself if u put the letters in the correct order it makes”no heartX”…so if someone has no heart he is a nobody right? u can prove that master xenahort is a nobody by seeing the sceen when he uncovers kingdom hearts by sending his round maded keyblade to the sky(in the secret trailer)….still the part why terra’s eyes are getting yellow is a mystery….maybe he has a connection to xenahort’s “family” because only their eyes change colour when they see kingdom hearts….
on 22 May 2008 at 10:17 pm 847. Optimus
Master Xehanort is not a nobody because nobodies didn’t exist in the time of BBS. Xehanort’s name also forms “another” (which most people tend to forget about) and Nomura said that both translations are important. However I believe that Master Xehanort is a human.
on 23 May 2008 at 9:25 am 848. Xebrem
I think too that M. Xehanort is human, but I think that somehow, even though I have never seen the secret trailer where Terra’s eyes change colour, that M. Xehanort sort of Posses/takes control of Terra, making his eyes turn Yellow and making him the new Xehanort
on 23 May 2008 at 12:27 pm 849. Keyblade Knight Terra
mabye theres an other reason that we dont know about like mabye yellow eyes dont just belong to heartless. and if Terra was possed his eyes wouldnt change Riku’s eyes didnt
on 23 May 2008 at 4:48 pm 850. uchiha madara
nobodies didnt exist 10 years before kh 1
on 23 May 2008 at 4:54 pm 851. Hannah
how do you know? todays my bday
on 23 May 2008 at 5:07 pm 852. -SORA-
ACTUALLY THEY DO BECAUSE THERE WAS MANY OF KEYBLADEHOLDERS BEFORE KH 1 THATS WAT STARTED THE KEYBLADE WAR BASICALLY DARK VERSES THE LIGHT ALL THAT STUFF AND THATS HOW THE HEARTLSS CAME
on 23 May 2008 at 6:10 pm 853. Optimus
Wrong -SORA-, Heartless came to be because Xehanort created them as shown in the Ansem Reports from Kingdom Hearts 1. That one reason you know heartless and nobodies didn’t exist back then. The other way is because Nomura said so in an interview.
on 24 May 2008 at 1:55 am 854. legend
has anyone noticed tht terra in the birth by sleep video; he has the same hair but shorter as ansem and xeanort and he alos has those yellow eyes?
on 24 May 2008 at 2:45 am 855. keyblademaster
Terra has the blood of Xehanort since like one of you guys said his eyes turn yellow when seeing Kingdom Hearts. Also Terra is like the past of Riku
meaning that, remember Riku’s heart created or reborn Xehanort (no heartX)also meaning that he’s related to Xehanort and Terra. Meaning Terra is related to Xehenort right?
Sorry if this makes no sense
on 24 May 2008 at 9:59 am 856. Xebrem
I have just seen the secret trailer, hoping it would help me answer some questions… but it didn’t now I am more confuzed than ever!!! but the name Birth By Sleep means somthing and what I think it means is when one hero dies (Ven) another is born or comes to light (Sora). also dose anyone know what happend to Aqua after that battle with M. Xehanort?
on 24 May 2008 at 3:36 pm 857. Optimus
Xebrem Birth by Sleep is the name of the second secret movie and the name of the PSP game. As to your theory, Sora is already alive in Birth by Sleep. It only happens ten years before Sora receives the keyblade, not fourteen. Plus Sora wasn’t suppose to receive the keyblade in the first place, Riku was. So there you go.
on 24 May 2008 at 5:11 pm 858. kaeci
I WANT THESE GAMES SO BAD THEY NEED SOME TRAILERS AND RELEASE DATES ALREADY!!!!! ^_^
on 25 May 2008 at 1:39 pm 859. sora final form
there have been 2 trailers that were showing birth by sleep… 1:gathering and 2:birth by sleep
in gathering the 3 knights find 3 keyblades(way to the dawn,sora’s keyblade and mikeys keyblade) the question is… the keyblades they found and took at the wasteland dissapeared in their fight with master xenahort and they were holding their own keyblades….what happened? and another question… king mikey had as a keyblade that was given to him by master yen cid the star seeker… in kingdom hearts he finds in the realm of darkness the golden keyblade the one that terra or ven i dont remember pics at the wasteland…how come the golden keyblade was in the realm of darkness?and what keyblade mikey had before founding the golden one?(maybe he had starseeker but anyway)…
on 26 May 2008 at 6:04 pm 860. Keyblade Knight Terra
hey in the gathering i thought i saw Fenir
on 27 May 2008 at 2:17 am 861. uchiha madara
i kno its been a while but yea hannah: nomura said that neither nobodies nor heartless existed during bbs we will be fighting a new kind of enemyand
Optimus: as far as i kno (and im wrong sometimes) ansem didnt create heartless but he did find them and learn to make more he says in the ansem reports from kh1 that he found a door where the heartless would gather
on 27 May 2008 at 11:03 am 862. sora final form
first of all to settle things right in order not to have a misunderstanding…ansem only wrote one report(ansems report 0) then his apprentice xehanort took his name and his ideas about his research and wrote the other 12. and also heartless existed cause yen sid said that if a single heart exists that has darkness inside it then heartless will continue to exist too… and about the part when xehanort left diz is shown at the end of kingdom hearts 2 when dis is trying to prevent kingdom hearts of being complete and talk for a last time with xemnas(xehanort)
on 27 May 2008 at 4:49 pm 863. uchiha madara
sora final form: when i said ansem reports i meant the ones by xehanort. i am not an idiot so dont treat me like one. and for the record all of the secret ansem reports were written by the real ansem it was just the ansem reports from the first game that were written by xehanort.
HEARTLESS DID NOT EXIST TEN YEARS BEFORE KH1!!!!!!!!! i dont care what you remember yen sid saying, this is straight from the creator, tetsuya nomura’s, mouth. he said that so therefore it has to be true. so please dont talk to me like i am an idiot because i probably know a lot more than you do. when i say im not sure i usually am but i just want to check one more time. it doesnt mean i dont know what im saying.
on 27 May 2008 at 6:32 pm 864. sora final form
i do not treat u like an idiot… it seems i didnt get what u were trying to say…sorry.then if those creatures in birth by sleep are neither nobodies nor heartless… have u heard how they call them?
on 27 May 2008 at 6:37 pm 865. sora final form
and believe me i know everything that has to do with the kingdom hearts games! the thing that i dont know is the interwies that this guy nomura gave about the games…dont criticize somebody if u dont know but anyway no hard feelings this is a fan site that we can discuss things not to argue.
on 28 May 2008 at 12:05 am 866. john
I was reading the ansmen reports and it says that it is three things that makes a living creature a heart with if the creature donesnt have it is a heartless,a body which if the creature donest have one becomes a nobody and a SOUL! what happens with the soul find out in kh3? maybe thats the new creature we face
on 28 May 2008 at 1:59 am 867. gman
when does bbs come out
on 28 May 2008 at 2:04 am 868. gman
come on i want to know when bbs comes out i have psp,and ds and i might get ps3 4 my bday
on 28 May 2008 at 2:49 am 869. missing_link
all this talk of ansem reports made me go back and read them, and i saw this interesting tidbit in Ansem’s report from KH1:
We talked for countless hours but one story in particular caught my interest, that of a key called the “keyblade”. The keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power.
One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says he wrought chaos and ruin upon it. I must know what this keyblade is. A key opens doors. It must be connected to the door that I have opened.
hmm….wonder what all that legend buiness is about ???
on 28 May 2008 at 10:57 am 870. Dragons2209
Ok please don’t anyone shout at me about this ok, this is only my own theory about the whole heartless and nobody theory. I came up with this theory after reading everyone’s comments and Nomura’s interviews, ok here it is, the heartless does exist ten years in the but no-one knows about them as they live beyond the door of darkness, at this point in time we know that master Xehanort and his apprentice has gone missing but why has he gone missing? Is he thinking/trying to open Kingdom Hearts?
This last sentence must be true as we see him summing Kingdom Hearts but we do not know what happened next but he must of succeed opening it as the heatless are beyond the door, but something must of happened as we do not hear anything more about him or his apprentice. This we will find out in the game if it ever comes out. Once the heatless came into being and taking hearts from people and worlds the Nobodies came to exist. Everything that has happened in Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 is the result of the events which has occurred ten years before and during the 10 years the heatless have become stronger and more came into being.
Also what is Maleficent’s connection? She was there 10 years before Kingdom hearts 1 and during Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 she has always been able to control the heartless. Was the events which took place 10 years ago gave her the knowledge and understanding of the heatless and that is why she helped Sora to fight the Nobodies? Who knows, I just thought I should throw this in to the conversation
on 28 May 2008 at 11:59 am 871. Dragons2209
I just want to say sorry about the grammer I know it may sound a bit odd but I hope you understand what I said.
on 28 May 2008 at 4:35 pm 872. uchiha madara
i dont mean to say that the rest of the theory was worthless but the only thing that really caught my attention was the maleficent thing. now that i think about it she really does have somewhat of a major role in all of the kh games and from the screen shots we can see that she will definitely be in kingdom hearts bbs. i think it will be interesting to know how it all plays out and what she really does know as far as everything that is going on in the kh world. it MIGHT just be possible that she is the real major enemy in the game considering that she usually does most of the corrupting but usually stays on the sidelines as far as battles. plus it only seems natural that a disney/square enix series should have at least one game where you find out that a disney character is the main antagonist and not just some random side boss who seems to be pulling the strings from afar but in the end you realize that they were a pawn all along.
wow that was long but comment on it tho cuz it doesnt seem entirely retarded lol
on 28 May 2008 at 6:50 pm 873. sora final form
why bbs’s senario has to do with ven’s identification? what about master xenahorts apprentice? isnt he a mystery too? have u seen a sceen in bbs when ven is standing in front of the beach and he taks with someone that only his shadow can be seen in the sand?(the shadow has similarities to rikus appearence) ven say’s “he is my friend so erase me” who do u think he is talking to?
on 28 May 2008 at 8:53 pm 874. missing_link
going along with the maleficent theory, i think we need to go back to her role in KH 1. We know she was collecting the 7 princesses of heart, and had help from riku, who at this time was becoming corrupted by the darkness (and “ansem”). How did she find out about kingdom hearts, and what wazs her overall purpose ?? To rulethe world, or something greater ???
and if im not mistaken, wasnt “ansem” using maleficent to get to kingdom hearts? how did they meet, and what kind of deal did they make to work together??
just thinking out loud, comment at will =]]
on 29 May 2008 at 8:39 am 875. Aezuth
Now this Maleficent idea sounds interesting. I definitely felt from her roles in KH I and II that she has some greater role in the storyline, but I don’t think that role’s in the past. Perhaps we will find out more about her motives? From the look of it, she’s sitting on the sidelines, waiting for a specific opportunity to do something. Obviously she’s got some overall grand plans for Sora (Hence Helping him with the nobodies). I’d say her fight with him in the first game was likely a test, and now she plans to use Sora for some greater purpose. However, I don’t think this has anything to do directly with BBS.
on 29 May 2008 at 10:44 am 876. Xebrem
the only thing of BBS I saw Melificent in, was a screenshot of her talknig to Terra, but she was at her home world, and it looked like she’d taken control of it already! maybe then she coudn’t tavel freely to other worlds because the Heartless wasn’t around, so she asked Terra somthing or made a deal or proposition, or mabey he’d just defeated her! who really knows! but she was smiling, so maybe that was like a test or somthing, since I think Terra IS Xehanort and thats how they met or somthing…
on 29 May 2008 at 4:32 pm 877. uchiha madara
but the thing is we may be giving maleficent too much credit. she is smart and does manipulate people a lot but i dont think she is using sora because she is still an evil person. and she was dumb/submissive enough to be controlled by ansem. i do think that she has something planned and will hopefully have a better/greater role in the games to come but i just have no idea how it will happen.
on 29 May 2008 at 8:33 pm 878. Dragons2209
Ok, I have found some information which is legit, the real deal, and it’s very interesting, when i read it, a few theories came to mind, but I would like to hear others first before I say my own, if that’s ok. Well here it is and enjoy.
The scene between Terra and Maleficent in the Sleeping Beauty world was said to be hinting towards a connection, but Nomura won’t say what it is. Most likely, this situation will be similar to Riku and Maleficent’s in KH1 where Maleficent was slowly attempting to lure Riku closer to the darkness.
Nomura says that the KH2:FM secret ending is “an image to the end”. This could mean that the scene takes place near the end of the game.
There seems to be something special about the term “friend”. In the TGS and Jump Festa trailers, Terra and Ven usually refer to each other as “friend” (sometimes, the subtitles actually have quotation marks around the word). Plus, in a new scene in KH2:FM, Xemnas refers to Aqua’s armor as “friend”, and finally in another new scene, Xigbar talks about the “Room of Awakening” and about how the “other ‘friend’” might be in it.
on 30 May 2008 at 5:15 am 879. man in bikini
I read that the game takes place 10 years B4 kh1 and the main story is finding Ven’s true identity and that you can play through all three characters (ven terra & aqua) story and thier own vantage point
on 30 May 2008 at 12:00 pm 880. Dragons2209
man in bikini, we know all this already. We also know that you can play all of the three charters, all three has there own story and licks to one anothers. To fully understand the game you have to play each charter, it doesn’t matter which one you start off with either. We know about Ven’s identiy will be answered in the game, but there are bigger qustions which are going to be answered, Such as how the heartless came to exist, who does Answem (the heartless) and Xemnas (the nobody) belong to. Then theres everything that I mention in my last post.
I would like to hear something more about the game, not just about Ven as we wont know till the game is out.
I’m sorry if I’m sounding a bit harsh, but this a discussion has come and gone.
on 30 May 2008 at 11:50 pm 881. missing_link
hmm, the word friend must have some significance then, if Nomura says so. But look at some of the definitions of friend, they are interesting:
–noun
1. a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.
2. a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.
3. a person who is on good terms with another; a person who is not hostile: Who goes there? Friend or foe?
4. a member of the same nation, party, etc.
5. (initial capital letter) a member of the Religious Society of Friends; a Quaker.
–verb (used with object)
6. Rare. to befriend.
—Idiom
2,3, and 4 interst me, they could be the relation between terra, ven, and aqua, like they were part of a group of organization, or even same nation.
just a food for thought =]
*defitnitions thanks to dictionary.com
on 31 May 2008 at 12:24 am 882. Aezuth
In that case doesn’t that add a bit of intrigue in Xemnas referring to Aqua’s armor as “Friend” in final mix? Especially if you’re going by the general idea that the definition of “friend” would be alluding in some way towards an alliance or similar. However we must remember that the game is Japanese! So friend might have completely different connotations than it does in english. This is assuming that Nomura’s interviews were IN Japanese. I haven’t seen them, but I thought I’d bring up the point anyways.
on 31 May 2008 at 12:42 am 883. missing_link
hmm, thats true, i would have to see the sentence its from, because it would be different, depending on the spelling. if you have the interview, put it up and i can look it up
on 31 May 2008 at 9:21 am 884. Xebrem
maybe it’s jus’ something random
on 02 Jun 2008 at 12:33 pm 885. Dragons2209
I have heard that the new monsters are called ‘Others’ is this true? Personally I not 100% sure but I thought I should ask if anybody else have heard these new monsters being called this.
on 02 Jun 2008 at 4:32 pm 886. Maylantis
Hello is any1 here who i can talk….
on 02 Jun 2008 at 4:33 pm 887. Maylantis
Well………………………………………………………………………bye….
on 03 Jun 2008 at 2:33 am 888. Keyblademaster92
Dude this is awsome…….but when is the game suppose to come out is my question. an is it true that its actually before kh1
on 03 Jun 2008 at 2:33 am 889. Keyblademaster92
Dude this is awsome…….but when is the game suppose to come
on 03 Jun 2008 at 2:37 am 890. Keyblademaster92
I guess this is a stupid question but how do you geta dark stone or whatever for the ultimate keyblade in kh2?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 2:42 am 891. Keyblademaster92
Malifecnt is probaly a main bady in the game but then agian i dont see her role in bbs,unless she has something to do with Ven an the others. I mean i hope i dont have to fight her agian .It would b alright but i just dont want tha hassel,u now what i mean.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 2:47 am 892. Keyblademaster92
Have you seen all the old post man alot of us have been posting 4-ever I hope it comes out soon=0
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:41 am 893. Hayden!
Hopefully Axel comes here……
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:44 am 894. Axel the Beaner
I’m here!!!!!!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:45 am 895. Axel
sorry I was on here before and I was doing …, stuff
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:47 am 896. Hayden!
Thats confusing, I mean, instead of the comment going to the bottom, it’s at the top…… *giggles*
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:47 am 897. Axel
Are you still there?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:48 am 898. Hayden!
Stuff?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:48 am 899. Axel
I know its funny
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:49 am 900. Hayden!
There now we have my link to zwink! *winks* Lol it rhymes
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:49 am 901. Axel
I was on the kh2 section
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:50 am 902. Axel
It starts a new page by its self thats what I like about this section
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:51 am 903. Hayden!
Ummmmmm….. Were did they all go?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:51 am 904. Axel
site sorry lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:51 am 905. Hayden!
lol o.k, it freaked me out
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:52 am 906. Hayden!
Oh yeah, btw Do you like “I believe” From the “Honey” movie?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:52 am 907. Axel
They passed the Funk to me (other users of this site) so I’m on everyday when no one is on youtube or tkh
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:53 am 908. Hayden!
Oh so it’s got more people on this one?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:53 am 909. Axel
Hmm never heard of it?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:54 am 910. Axel
well not this section everys on kh2 if we go now there will be people on
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:54 am 911. Hayden!
Serious!!!! Omg!! It’s an amazing song, I can give you a link to it on youube if you want?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:55 am 912. Axel
I was here (kh2) before I read your comment that said you were on
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:55 am 913. Hayden!
Oh, so does that mean there are more people from America?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:56 am 914. Axel
no thanks Because It’ll take forever
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:57 am 915. Axel
Lots there on right now I was talking to them before you
on 03 Jun 2008 at 4:59 am 916. Hayden!
O.k lol, I normally only get up around this time, I dunno whats wrong with me lately, I can’t sleep….
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:00 am 917. Hayden!
Chav
Picture this a young lad about 12 years of age and 4 ½ feet high baseball cap at ninety degrees in a imitation addidas tracksuit, with trouser legs tucked into his socks (of course, is definitely the height of fashion). This lad is strutting around, fag in one hand jewellery al over the over, outside McDonalds acting as if he is 8 foot tall and built like a rugby player, when some poor unsuspecting adult (about 17/18) walks round the corner wanting to go to mcdonalds for his dinner glances at the young lad, the young lad jumps up in complete disgust and says “Whats your problem? Wanna make sommin of it? Bling Bling” when the adult starts to walk towards the young lad, the young lad pisses himself and runs off to either his pregnant 14-year-old girlfriend or his brother in the army crying his eyes out.
As for a chavette it’s just the female version thats quite like a millie…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:00 am 918. Axel
Me neither I can’t sleep its like I forgot how to sleep or something
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:01 am 919. Hayden!
Yeah it’s annoy especially during exam week…..
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:02 am 920. Hayden!
Yeah it’s annoying especially during exam week…..
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:02 am 921. Axel
thats a CHAV? We call that a Pussy .
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:03 am 922. Hayden!
Millies… Girls that hang around in big group, mainly in very loyalist or republican areas of Belfast and in run-down housing estates. Classic Millie icons include tracksuits, (either in brightly coloured vile velour or a rip-off of adidas or other brand name) huge hoop earrings, 4 piercings in each ear, hair tied back very tightly into either a bun with too many ’scrunchies’ to count or in a really high ponytail with 6 bobbles, making it stick up at an angle….Millies add ‘like’ to the end of every other statement….
Millie:’u slabberin ’bout my mate?’
‘if yer slabberin ’bout my mate i’ll get me boyfriend’s cousin’s mate ta knack yer black aff like’
(won’t let other girl get a word in edgeways)
Millie:’ya have a feg? im dyin fer a feg like!’
Spide… a plague upon man. Native to “norn iron” (n.ireland), they speak a corrupted form of english. Kitted out in garish shellsuits, huge medallions and baseball caps, these skinheaded monstrosities venture from their estates in packs to descend upon civilisation, ready to “bate thaw sheet outta wenkers.” Intoxicated by a mixture of “wheet ‘lightnin” cider and trance anthems, they hit dangerous speeds in their souped-up red corsas before comitting minor crimes. They speak a language incomprehensible to normal humans;for example “e waant a makkie dees burger wi’ nay shay” or,in english; “i want a macdonalds burger with no relish please.” It is paradigmatic of all steeks to have mindlessly violent sectarian opinions; the troubles in n. Ireland were caused by spides, and their estates are daubed with paramilitary propaganda such as “red hand commandos” or “up the provos”.English hip-hop hoods think they are tough, but where i’m from, the spides eat Ali G wannabes for breakfast and wash it down with a pint of gravel. beware.
an archetypal spide’s day consists of;
1. Get up. Swear.
2. breakfast; beans in a cup+ cider.
3. Don’t go to work/school. Hang out “with tha lads”
4. watch the footy.
5. Evening at last. Gather your posse and find a student/fruit/hippie/o.a.p and “bate tha fock” out of them.
6. One the crime spree is over, get in souped up corsa , turn on dance music and spit out the window.
7. go home.
(A bit over the top but true)
O.k….. thats about it yeah? Lol, I had them all on my bebo, so I just went andcopyed and pasted, it would take to long to type….
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:03 am 923. Axel
I am taking tests too. I take them until Friday for testing
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:04 am 924. Josh/ViVi
WELCOME HAYDEN!!
I dont know you but THATS OK!!!
I know I seem cheerful but I have to greet people
I’ve been here the longest so far(cept for a guy named Taz)
Anywho, feel free to drop by the kh2 section whenever you want
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:07 am 925. Axel
What weird people LOL wanna know about mine? they aren’t as weird
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:07 am 926. Axel
Hi Josh lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:09 am 927. Hayden!
Well thats what they all are… Millie and Spide are the main ones we use in Northen Ireland…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:09 am 928. Axel
Do you Hayden?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:10 am 929. Josh/ViVi
You callin me weird boy?
lol jk
Weird peole are good
They keep the Earth laughing
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:11 am 930. Hayden!
Ummm Hiya Joshy! Lol. *smiles sweetly* Yeah Axel you go ahead and tell me yours…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:12 am 931. Axel
well we don’t have that kind of people lol we have gangsters, taggers, nerds, dorks, rockers, punkers, gothic, skaters, emo, and ummmm I think thats all
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:14 am 932. Axel
which one first?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:15 am 933. Josh/ViVi
Is Hayden a girl?(no offence if your not)
Cuz only a girl calls me Joshy and smiles sweetly
lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:15 am 934. Axel
my little bro is taking a picture of me right now cuz my hair looks like roxas
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:16 am 935. Hayden!
i know them all except taggers… lol I’m a emo skater, mainly skater, so don’t worry. I hang around with punks, emos, skaters, metallers (rockers, hippies that hate the thought of peace) and goths… also new romantics and randomers.
Axel, you better not have the wrong interpetation of Geeks, Nerds and Dorks…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:16 am 936. #0|The Outsider
she likes chicks man!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:18 am 937. Hayden!
Yes I am a girl… lol But don’t under estimate my intelligence Joshy lol.
Cool Axel! I never knew you had a brother…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:18 am 938. Axel
lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:19 am 939. Josh/ViVi
Ok nvm
I checked her name and she’s a girl
Alright, and here’s a hint
When meeting new people here, mention first that you are a girl(to everybody)
Cuz they will get that confused(trust me)
When I went by ViVi only, they thought I was a girl
lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:19 am 940. Axel
I have 4 I thought I mentioned them before.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:19 am 941. #0|The Outsider
I am ice-cream man.
running over fat kids with my van.
As I ring my bell.
Watch all the fat kids run like hell.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:20 am 942. Axel
Well Hayden I don’t have the wrong interpertation of any of them I’m most of them lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:21 am 943. Hayden!
Random dude like Ron…. and Freeshooter…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:21 am 944. Axel
Most of my friends are Gangsters though lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:21 am 945. Hayden!
Go head tell me your definations of Geek, Nerds and Dorks…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:22 am 946. Axel
Don’t remind me of Ron lol he makes me laugh
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:22 am 947. Josh/ViVi
Hey, yea I know them
I posted a few things on TKH before
But that site was too confusing and no on ewas on
Except when this site would have issues we would go on that one
BRB, gonna get on my psp
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:22 am 948. #0|The Outsider
SILENCE OR I WILL KILL YOU!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:23 am 949. Axel
Well me lol (except I’m a little gangster)
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:23 am 950. Hayden!
We don’t have alot of gansters in my school, nor country, more Polish here, lol (because most gangster people are black, not being racist or anything)
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:25 am 951. Axel
thats not true most gangsters are Mexican
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:26 am 952. Axel
I have proof lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:26 am 953. #0|The Outsider
RACIST BASTARD!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:27 am 954. Axel
Well most gangsters I’ve met or seen are mexican *cough cough* me *cough cough* lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:27 am 955. Hayden!
Ahem…. “Geek: Awkward person: somebody regarded as unattractive, stupid and socially awkward.”
“Nerd: Offensive term: an offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s physical appearance or social skills (slang insult)”
“Dork: an offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s intelligence, physical appearance or social skills (slang insult)”
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:28 am 956. Axel
HEY I’m Mexican and I have proof
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:29 am 957. Hayden!
Well in my country all the gangsters are mainly Black, meaning and ethnic minority group…
Whats wrong outsider dude, or dudette?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:30 am 958. Axel
I don’t really know what I am because I’m mixed with all of them well some of the characteristics
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:31 am 959. Axel
OH taggers are people who do graffiti. I know one
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:31 am 960. Hayden!
Axel, your not stupid, you have friends, your not obnoxious and I am sure your not unattractive.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:33 am 961. Axel
Well I said I have SOME of there characteristics
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:34 am 962. Hayden!
Like what?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:35 am 963. Axel
luckily I don’t have any of what you mentioned except Dumb because I don’t believe I’m smart even though I am for my grade in school
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:35 am 964. Josh/ViVi
Kay I’m back
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:37 am 965. Axel
Well I’m funny, sort of smart FOR MY AGE ONLY , tall, Nice, sweet, and some more
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:38 am 966. Hayden!
AXEL YOU ARE SMART! SMARTER THAN ALOT PEOPLE I KNOW!!!!! I BET YOU GET GREAT GRADES!! You have grades right? I think you do because I get levels… Look people call me those names and all I say back it “Well I didn’t know I was stupid.”
And I am sure your not stupid, nor a low achiever.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:39 am 967. Axel
Wanna Know something Funny? When people see me for the first time they are afraid of me because I’m big and tall so they think I’m a bully even though I’m not
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:40 am 968. Axel
Well I do but since people are afraid of what I might do they don’t make fun of me (only people who don’t me)
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:41 am 969. Axel
bye I g2g to sleep already Bye!!!!!!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:41 am 970. Hayden!
Lol Hello again. Welcome back.
Awwwhh! I know your a sweetie Axel, and i’m sure your much taller than me, everyone in my year is…. Plus you are smart, Pieces (or however it’s spelt) are naturally smart, bet you didn’t know Albert Einstine was the same starsign as you.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:42 am 971. Josh/ViVi
Well I cant say
I just recently met him
POP QUIZ!!!
WHAT IS 17 × 6?(NO CALC)
AND WHO WAS IT THAT SAILED THE DELAWARE?!
lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:43 am 972. Hayden!
Night night, Axel. *blows a kiss* lol hopefully you get that. Sweet dreams. And I will go to school… lol.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:44 am 973. Hayden!
17×6=102, easy.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:44 am 974. Josh/ViVi
Dang, he left
I’m slow on my psp
lol
And I’m an Aries
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:45 am 975. Hayden!
What is deltawear?? I know what a delta is, but nothing else…
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:46 am 976. Hayden!
Really cool, we are o.k together, but we fight sometimes… lol I am a cancer. While Axel and I are perfect together because we are both water signs.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:48 am 977. Josh/ViVi
Its a river(and state?) and it was George Washington
You dont live in the US do you?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:49 am 978. Hayden!
No, I live in Northen Ireland. Lol.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:51 am 979. Josh/ViVi
Woah, you guys are dating?
Well if so then this site is perfect for yall
We have some couples here too
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:52 am 980. Hayden!
Joshy, me and Axel aren’t dating?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:54 am 981. Josh/ViVi
Ah, Ireland, thats new
Usually its America or England around here
And Canada…, ……and Greece
lol
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:56 am 982. Hayden!
Lol, well alot of people on the TKH forum wondered too, because I am just different not many people like Kh in Northen Ireland, they prefer FF, be=ut I like both….
What made you think me and Axel are dating?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 5:57 am 983. Josh/ViVi
Then why did you say you were perfect for each other?
Sorry for the misunderstanding
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:00 am 984. Josh/ViVi
I like both too
God I love this music
I’m listening to Muse
lol
My 2nd fav
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:04 am 985. Hayden!
No I meant our starsigns lol. They are just perfect together, they never fight, and if they have a disagreement, they resolve it through talking to ecahother about their feelings. Lol.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:07 am 986. Josh/ViVi
Oh ok
Sorry, lol
So, you ready for summer?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:09 am 987. Hayden!
I can’t wait for it, but I will have course work to do all over it…. “-.- What about you? ^_^
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:13 am 988. Josh/ViVi
Well, its boring so far
lol
I only get to see my friends on wedsndays cuz they live too far
But I get to see my cousins for 2 weeks on the 15th
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:24 am 989. Hayden!
Cool, well I gtg, I am heading out for school, nice meeting you Joshy. Bye *blows a kiss*
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:27 am 990. Josh
Mkay later
on 03 Jun 2008 at 10:53 am 991. Dragons2209
Sorry to break up this great conversation you lot are having but I thought this website was to discuss about the new Kingdom hearts game Birth by Sleep, not useless and pointless information that you lot are talking about. If you want to chat then do it some where else. Personally I would like to know what’s going on with the game, but I feel that you do not feel the same way, plus to fill 2 and a half pages of nothing but crap is a bit sad considering some of the stuff which has come out.
Sorry if I offended any of you, but like I said I would like to talk about this game!
on 03 Jun 2008 at 12:30 pm 992. Xebrem
Yep, I agree with Dragons2209, before you lot entered, with was a peaceful and knolagable forum. Duscussing nothing but our theories, Ideas and what we know, you on the other hand are using this as a pointless chat room and nothing more, so, if you need to chat, do it in a chat room, not here
no offence intended
on 03 Jun 2008 at 1:25 pm 993. Keyblade Knight Terra
i have a theroy i found it belongs to some1 else but im bring it here for him
TonicShadow:acually have a thoery who the DS is, it is in fact both Terra and Master Xehanort…why you ask, because by wacthing the birth by sllep trailer (KH2FX+) and reading in the scans (which somehow I can’t find) that when DS came out of Master Xehanort in the trailer, everyone thought that it could be his nobody or heartless, and in the scans it says that when Ven saw the figure without his helmet, he was shocked to see him, also there where theroies about Terra being the DS and so on…but nobody ever thought that the DS is a replica like the Riku Replica in Chain of Memories, think about, these new creatures in birth by sleep have the symbol of an ‘M’ and an ‘X’, meaning Master Xehanort has made then like Ansem made the Heartless, so I’m thinking that Master Xehanort made a Terra replica and add a few of his own bits to him, which in turn will become Ansem the Wise’s apprentice…and that’s my theory, any thoughts?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 1:54 pm 994. Xebrem
That would explain why Terra looks like Xehanort in KIngdom hearts 2, and I do agree with that therory, since the Riku replica looks exactly like Riku, and since you could most probally change the replica, you might be able to change the age, making him younger, since in the Secret trailer the apprentice looks younger than Terra
on 03 Jun 2008 at 6:02 pm 995. Keyblademaster92
If the guy thats rikus replc as you said xebrem than wouldnt that mean that the other two are replicsnts of sora and karia. I stillwant to know when we will be able to play this game in the U.S.A:}
on 03 Jun 2008 at 8:31 pm 996. uchiha madara
i guess that makes sense… but i HIGHLY doubt that its true.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 8:34 pm 997. Josh/ViVi
SHUT UP NERDS!!!
lol jk
And I dont need to talk about it, I know enough
And before you noobs got here we already had an agreement about where we can chat, which is mainly the kh2 section
But dont mind the Hayden and Axel people, there new here too so they didnt know
Me, on the other hand, knew but I was on my psp at the time
So yea, there ya go
on 03 Jun 2008 at 8:39 pm 998. Josh/ViVi
And there was no Riku replica, that was just Riku
Riku wasnt made of a replica nor was another one made
He was just a pawn in Ansem’s game
He was being possessed, which explains the dark power he got in kh1 when he had the darkness keyblade
And he still had Ansem inside him when he got to Castle Oblivion so he still had that dark power
on 03 Jun 2008 at 10:38 pm 999. Hayden!
Well I am sorry I offended you guys but to be honest I am not one fro the whole theorys nor being knowledgable because I don’t sit and think about it all the time, but I am not knowledgable because the U.K are always last to get the new KH games, and information. So that’s why, I write more fanfiction, but not on KH, more on FF. So I am sorry, but it my first day here… And this forum is strange compered to TKH forum.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 10:38 pm 1000. Hayden!
for*
on 03 Jun 2008 at 11:47 pm 1001. Keyblademaster92
Im sorry for filling the forum with carp. From now on i will listen and disscuss theories an ideas.
on 03 Jun 2008 at 11:49 pm 1002. Keyblademaster92
Well im glad that we can just talk about this stuff.But i have a question so who was the guy that got frozen in the trailer for kh3 was that terra guy or the other one?
on 03 Jun 2008 at 11:52 pm 1003. #1 DinestyX
the one that got frozen was Ven (the other one)
on 04 Jun 2008 at 12:04 am 1004. Keyblademaster92
Ok I have a real disscusion(you guys can tell me this is a piece of crap)I was watching youtube and I put in kh3 but when I put it in it brought news from E3. Then I put in Organization 13 an it brought up something weird a bunch of people in black coats an they had the hair. But they were making complete discrase of the name organzation 13. They even had someone dress up as Roxas an slander his name too. But this is my opion not yours.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:59 am 1005. Xebrem
Josh/Vivi: there was a Riku replica, in CoM, Vexen made a Riku replica to defeat Sora and take control of Organisation XIII. the Replica even had it’s own heart and Namine’ provided ‘it’ with fake memories like she was doing with Sora.
Keyblademaster92: there never was a replica of Sora and Kairi, only Riku, because Vexen also wanted to prove Axle, Marluxia and Larxene (Also Xemnas) that Riku was the ‘key’ (meaning that he was the one who would weild the keyblade and make them whole again).
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:28 am 1006. cjayy
i like pie…. chicken pie
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:30 am 1007. cjayy
sorry im hyper anyway whats going on?
and if anyone thinks theres gunna be a kh game on wii i think they might be mistaken.. because the maker of kh has clarified the game that will come out soonage
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on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:36 am 1008. Xebrem
cjayy: Kingdom hearts Birth By Sleep won’t come out till next year, maybe erly next year or maybe even thistime next year, we just don’t know. the only one that’ll come outin a couple of months if it isn’t a Japan release only is Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:38 am 1009. cjayy
Xebrem: i know that lol i didnt say when they were coming out either
but yh i saw the box for an apparent game for nintendo wii and it looks rather computerised and fake 
on 04 Jun 2008 at 6:52 pm 1010. uchiha madara
Josh/ViVi: i love how u talk like u kno everything and say that everyone here are noobs and yet u didnt even kno that there WAS a riku replica in chain of memories who was a boss that sora had to fight numerous times in castle oblivion… so ummmm whos the noob here???
on 04 Jun 2008 at 6:54 pm 1011. Josh/ViVi
Sut up!
I never played CoM…………..lol
Or never played the riku one
And I’m not a noob
I’ve been here longer than you at least
on 04 Jun 2008 at 6:57 pm 1012. uchiha madara
and ansem was not inside of him in chain of memories because the heartless that called himself ansem was destroyed. the reason that he was even in the game was because the entire game was about memories so because the memory of ansem was so potent he was an essential part of rikus story line. and as far as tha e dark power goes. he had it even before ansem possesed him because he didnt possess him until the end of kh1 right before he unlocked maleficents dark heart. anyone with a strong heart who gives themselves to darkness can use the power of darkness. the only problem is that it continuously erodes the heart. so watch what you say because it seems to me that you are the TRUE noob
on 04 Jun 2008 at 6:59 pm 1013. Josh/ViVi
Ok, so I made one mistake and someone corrected me
So what?
You can just correct me but you dont have to be an ass about it
I can take being corrected, I’m fine with
Just simply point out my mistake and leave it at that
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:01 pm 1014. uchiha madara
being on the site longer does NOT mean that you aren’t a noob as far as knowledge of the game. along with that i have been here longer than you think i just never saw a reason to post until tazimus prime started talking because he was really the only person had any sense on this frikkin messaeg board and now that hes gone i have nothing to do except correct the mistakes made by people and stop idiots like you from calling people noobs even though u know less about the game than most people here
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:03 pm 1015. uchiha madara
ok now that i’ve got the assholishness out of my system i am sorry that i went off and can we please get back to birth by sleep. thats all i really care about right now… at least until friday when mgs 4 comes out… then you guys might not here from me for a while lol
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:04 pm 1016. Josh/ViVi
I just know enough to understand the whole thing
And you could never be like Taz, he was a lot better
He wasnt a d*ck like you
I know that there is a Kingdom Hearts 3, but it wont be out for a long time
But the side projects come out first
And thats all I need to know
I dont wanna read what’ll be in there
I like to be suprised
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:07 pm 1017. uchiha madara
Josh/ViVi: i honestly dont care anymore. all i really wanna do is get back to the game. so i say drop it and no hard feelings. if you wanna keep up with the rantings then fine but im done now
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:35 pm 1018. missing_link
well, now that thats over, is there anyone out there with some other theories we canall look at ??
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:49 pm 1019. missing_link
It was an awakening that would signal the beginning of the KINGDOM HEARTS saga.
KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep is the tale of a new trio of heroes, told across three scenarios utilizing the groundbreaking technology of the PSP. Exciting new features will be introduced on top of the traditional controls, game system, and visual style of its predecessors.
The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power. One legend says its wielder
saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it.
—from Ansem’s Report (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Long before Sora took up the Keyblade, there were other Keyblade masters. One of these masters, Xehanort, disappeared one day along with his apprentice. This event proved to be a foreshadowing of great disaster to come. Aware of the threat, another master ordered his three apprentices to seek out Xehanort and his cohort.
this is from the square-enix site, just thought it would help get discussion going again. I think we have almost everyone identified in this discription except for the master that sends out ven, terra, and aqua, unless i missed that part of the thread. hope this helps get the ball moving again
on 04 Jun 2008 at 7:56 pm 1020. Key of reason
Greetings. I’ve played all the games, except for the FMs and RE:CoM,but I’ve seen clips so I’m pretty well informed. Im glad to see that the theories are coming up more and thet “tacos rule!!!” is becoming a scarcity(i think i spelled that eight). I’m not here to criticize anyone, only to post a theory I have that culminates all the info and theories that I have gathered. My theory has to do with Terra being the Xehanort, in a sense, but not the usual brainwashing rubbish. in my opinion, in the end of BBS, i believe ven and aqua sacrifice themselves in some final battle. I believe Xehanort, the ORIGINAL Xehanort, not the one who studied under ansem, is destroyed by the combined power of Ven, Terra,and aquas keyblades, or he comes in too close of contact with kingdom hearts. This either destroys his body and leaves his heart, or it turns his evil essence into the realm of darkness, which next to no one has explained. Either Terra, tired from battle, gets his Heart taken by Xehanort and replaced with Xehanorts heart, the combination of a heart and mind not working properly together could cause memory loss, or he could have been contaminated by over exposure to the realm of darkness, the creation of which could have created the first heartless. This would allow the new Xehanort, who remembers only his name, which is what his heart could tell him, to become a heartless and a nobody. It would also mean Terra’s heart had to go somewhere, which is how you fight Terra in KH2FM+. my theory about 358/2 days should be on the appropriate page soon. Also: it has been mentioned that Maleficent was present during all these events, as well as mickey, donald,and goofy. This brings up the question of why Mickey, who was the only one awake during Roxas’s year of life as well as Ven’s life, told nothing to sora.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:12 pm 1021. uchiha madara
i actually kind of like that theory except the whole evil essence turns into the realm of darkness part. the darkness has always been. evil does reside there so i can see where the evil makes the darkness came from, but it has always been because without dark there can be no light. for example riku, being a good guy most of the time, used the power of darkness most of the time he was seen in the game. not all darkness is evil.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:19 pm 1022. Key of reason
AH, well i tried at the very least I feel as though i did well enough to be compmented and actually that just was some vague idea i had
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:19 pm 1023. Key of reason
complimented sorry
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:20 pm 1024. Key of reason
it was just a spin off of the original idea
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:29 pm 1025. Key of reason
More to the point, I just realized that the letter in the end could actually have to do with all the new games, especially about Ven’s connection to Roxas
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:38 pm 1026. Key of reason
also, Xehanort’s heartless, Ansem, is a bit of a mystery to me. How was he able to take over Riku’s body? I know Riku allowed himself to betaken by darkness, but Ansem’s heartless isn’t pure darkness. Also, was his original character’s connection to the keyblade, lets assume its terra, give him intelligence and power over heartless?
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:42 pm 1027. missing_link
maybe in the letter, mickey is telling sora and the gang how the whole buiness from KH 1 came to be, which could explain their expressions when they read the letter….more to think about i guess
on 04 Jun 2008 at 8:48 pm 1028. Key of reason
Who knows, also, I wonder how much time passed between when sora and riku showed up at destiny islands and when the letter came? would that be long enough for the events of coded to happen and mickey discover something?
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:05 pm 1029. missing_link
hmmm…never thought of that, but that does bring up a good point. the way that we are left at the end of KH 2, it seems like it has been a matter of weeks or months, but not years it think
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:09 pm 1030. Key of reason
probably not. anyone else wonder what sora and riku’s parents were doing while KH was happening? I know like everyone else sora was forgotten for a year after CoM, including by his parents, but what about Riku’s parents? and dont tell me they might be orphans, because you clearly hear sora’s mom in KH.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:14 pm 1031. Key of reason
Also, is there something special about Kairi’s family, beyond her being a princess of heart. How could her frandmother know so much about the events of BBS, except for that rubbish about childrejn. which may not be rubbish but the thing itself raises many questions.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:17 pm 1032. Key of reason
speaking of which, although im getting a little sidetracked, sorry about that Ill be serious in my next comment, who did ansem have roxas stay with in twilight town? It’s not like he could live by himself at around age 15
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:24 pm 1033. missing_link
i know for roxas, DiZ could have made someone or something for him to live with, and as for sora and riku, i think the main island where they lived is different than that of destiney islands (they have to take boats out there), so maybe they thought they were out there or wutevs
as for kairi, we know that there was a cutscene of kairi in radient garde/hollow bastion where she was in the library with an older woman, her grandmother, so maybe her family has a bit of a connection more than that of other people’s parents.
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:28 pm 1034. Key of reason
would you think your kid is chilling on another island FOR OVER A YEAR? but i suppose that bit about kairi is good enough for me
on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:30 pm 1035. Key of reason
but again, more seriously, does anyone have a guess why aqua has only been shown in the traillers from KH2 and FM+ and not in the E3 or whatever trailer?
on 05 Jun 2008 at 2:26 am 1036. missing_link
her parts of the game havent been completed, she’s not as important, or they just want to keep us on our toes maybe…idk
on 05 Jun 2008 at 3:18 am 1037. Keyblade Knight Terra
hey read the trailer descriptions and it says somthing about Terra! Terra says he doesnt want to be a master. does that mean he was going to be a fully Keyblade master until the BBS insident?!
on 05 Jun 2008 at 12:35 pm 1038. Dragons2209
I have found another video of the trailer with subtleties and this is what being said:
Scene 1
Xehanort: I believed you’d find your way by now
Cross the wall between light and darkness to me
I am tired of waiting for you, Terra
Terra: I have a “friend”
Answer me Xehanort what have you done with his heart?
Scene 2
Ven: Who are you? As for having met you . . .
Xehanort: Seems that you are losing it
However, you have not lost it permanently
In order to obtain it, give up
Now recover everything, and discover the truth
To me what Xehanort is saying to Ven, I thought was similar to what Organization 13 was saying to Sora in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, Sora had to loose all his memories to find out the truth about Castle Oblivion, Organization 13, Naminé, also to gain his original memories.
Scene 3
Xehanort: Those who submit to Darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade
Xehanort referring to? This scene is where Ven and Xehanort’s apprentice are fighing, I think he’s referring to Ven but I’m not 100% sure
Scene 4
Xehanort: Already that man is a monster infused with darkness
Defeat the darkness and correct my mistake
This scene is the same scene as scene 1 where Xehanort and Terra are talking, at this point I think they are either referring to Ven or somebody else, but I have a feeling that it could be Ven for some reason.
Scence 5:
Terra: I don’t care about becoming a master
This power I use for my friends
Why doesn’t Terra what to become a master? This is where Terra is carrying Ven, are the events which occurs in Kingdom Hearts having something to do with protecting Ven in the past, but something happens and he doesn’t exist or dies? Or does Terra have to do something which he doesn’t want to do?
Scence 6:
Ven: We’re friend, therefore I want to ask you something
Erase me
This I thought was quite strange, why does Ven want to be erase? And what does he mean by erase? Does that mean he’s not a really person, but a creation? If so who’s creation? Xehanort’s?
This is only my personal views, but to me from the trailer there are more questions than answers. Also why isn’t Aqua in any of the scenes or even mention?
on 05 Jun 2008 at 2:43 pm 1039. Xebrem
Key of reason: Thankyou for agreeing with me that Terra is somehow Xehanort, ’till you came, I was the only one who acctually beleived this Terra-Xehanort thing.
and… nice theroy! I totally agree with it, not only does that explain why Xehanort can remeber only his name but how the first heartless came into existance, and also, I think that M. Xehanort WAS the first heartless. jus’ think, he looked ‘evil’ and like he had also of darkness hidden in his heart. how did you work it all out? please let me know!
on 05 Jun 2008 at 2:53 pm 1040. Xebrem
Dragons2209: I think that Ven WAS M.Xehanot’s creation, and somehow wilded a keyblade and had his own heart, but, it got infused with darkness, so M.Xehanort is either trying to kill him by using that other ‘apprentice’.
also I think that Ven doesn’t know that her was a creation, and when he finds out, he asks Terra (or Aqua) to erase him from the world that he does not belong to… but I don’t know, thats only a guess
on 05 Jun 2008 at 3:06 pm 1041. missing_link
that scene 5 part about him not caring about becoming a master reminds me of how riku wanted to use the darkness to help sora / find kair in KH 1.
also, what do you think the “mistake” is that Xehonart is about ? Ven maybe?
on 05 Jun 2008 at 5:47 pm 1042. Key of reason
Xebrem: not a problem. I’ve been thinking it for a while, and its just good to explain my beliefs, but i must also agree with uchiha madara, i now realize darkness has been around always. I think the original heart switch idea works. it probably just opened the door to the realm of darkness, not created it.
missing_link: it might be. This may be part of my theory of how vem amd aua are killed or erased, so this fits nicely into it.
also, has anyone looked at my theory on the 358/2 days page?
on 05 Jun 2008 at 5:50 pm 1043. Key of reason
ven and aqua sorry
on 05 Jun 2008 at 6:11 pm 1044. Key of reason
Xebrem: i figured all this