Riku on 09 May 2007 11:02 pm
Names Known of the Knights Confirmed!
TheWertle is currently translating an interview found in the Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ Ultimania:
The full translation will come soon, but it has been confirmed that the names of the three Knights in the secret ending are related to elements just like Sora, Kairi, and Riku are, and that two of the knights are indeed Aqua and Ven. Update: We now know the name of the Enigmatic Soldier is Terra thanks to another interview with Nomura! Click the images to enlarge them:
Nomura has also hinted that Ven and Roxas may be related in some way!
Kairi (similar to Umi) means Sea - Aqua means Water
Riku means Land - Terra means Earth
This is the Enigmatic Soldier for those who don’t know already.
on 09 May 2007 at 11:13 pm 1. vinan123
If Ven and Roxas are related, then doesn’t that mean that Ven is also related to Sora?
on 09 May 2007 at 11:17 pm 2. jose
wow i wonder whats the name of the other one maybeits i think his name should be vale,terra,dust,or globe(haha)cause i went in to dictionary.com and they all are synonyms to earth and land. im just saying but vale or dust fit him the most.(haha)
on 09 May 2007 at 11:20 pm 3. Riku
They’re only English synonyms though - I’m guessing it’ll be something else.
Yes it does theoretically mean that, vinan123.
on 09 May 2007 at 11:22 pm 4. sanda
@ vinan123
possibly. I think chasers are the 4th form of existence:
somebodies, nobodies, heartless, chasers.
So if thats true, then yea Ven would be related to Sora
on 09 May 2007 at 11:31 pm 5. Kai
Omg u get it. Ven means Fire… Aqua means Water or ocean and Bald Hair guy proplay we donno his name but maybe means Ice?? ty so mutch
on 09 May 2007 at 11:33 pm 6. Kai
Im opening kh’s site soon
on 09 May 2007 at 11:36 pm 7. vinan123
So if Ven really is related Sora and Roxas, then the next game must take place in the future, which would also explain why Ven looks older than Sora and Roxas.
on 09 May 2007 at 11:54 pm 8. Riku
Kai, Nomura has confirmed that Ven and Aqua mean Wind and Water, and that the third one is related to Earth.
on 10 May 2007 at 12:08 am 9. eric
man that is so confusing!!
so there is chasers?? wot are they? and dude!! wtf are those guys? they are forges? and wot u mean by sora is ven? i think that aqua looks like rikku or kairi
and the guy ??? is maybe rikku am i righT? iamso noob bout that new stuff
on 10 May 2007 at 12:11 am 10. jose
@vinan123 what is that supposed to be yo email?
on 10 May 2007 at 12:13 am 11. jose
dude nomura said they werent sora kairi or riko ,ok
on 10 May 2007 at 12:17 am 12. Riku
None of the characters are Sora, Kairi, or Riku. Two of the characters are Aqua and Ven. Ven may be related to Roxas. Their names are related to elements which are related to eachother. Get it now?
on 10 May 2007 at 1:27 am 13. vinan123
No, thats not my e-mail.
on 10 May 2007 at 2:04 am 14. Dechiet
Wow~ if only we knew the ES’ name. He is my fave after all~ I can’t wait to see the connection to Ven and Roxas.
I wonder why they are so loathe to reveal ES’ name? OwO
on 10 May 2007 at 2:48 am 15. VenFan
How exactly do you find all of this? Like, what websites do you go on? What sources do you use to find all of this? I want to help with discovering new things about the upcmoing Kingdom Hearts games, books, ect.
on 10 May 2007 at 3:09 am 16. you'realldumb
omg you guys are retarded, how can you be that flippin dumb. ven means wind, sora means sky. see the flippin connection morons.??? kairi means sea, aqua means water(duh!). see the connections???
jeeze how could any one be such a moron.
its soo obvious, pull your head out of butt and use common sense
on 10 May 2007 at 5:01 am 17. Ace of Diamonds
I knew that Aqua & Kairi had some connection. If Ven is related to Roxas, he must be related to Sora since Roxas is Sora’s Nobody. I’m counting down the days until they reveal more about the Secret Ending. I do have a small theory. In the scene where Xemnas was talking to the armor on the floor, maybe Aqua was just data that re-materializes into the armor. If not, then maybe Xemnas is just crazy. But if Aqua is still alive then either she was brought back to the present, or the Keyblade War happened in the not to distant past. I think I’ve cracked Mickey’s appearance in the secret ending. I stated elsewhere that during the Keyblade War, and before King Mickey was the “King”, he trained under Yensid. When Yensid learned of this new evil, he trained Mickey in the arts of The Keyblade. When he thought Mickey was ready, he sent him off to battle, so Mickey might’ve gotten his Kingdom Key during his time in the Dark Realm. So, the Legend about one Keyblade weilder saving the world might’ve been Mickey. Now, there’s two Enigmatic Soldiers who both dawn the same armor, but aren’t the same person. They let out Aqua & Ven, but are hell bent on keeping the last one a secret. If it’s that important, he must be a MAJOR character, but he does resemble Xehanort. The Soldier who fought Sora head the same armor, but wasn’t Xehanort. I do hope my reincarnation theory is right. It took a while for me to come up with that.
on 10 May 2007 at 5:58 am 18. Shakespeare
Something that I found in my research of Aqua and Ven’s names:
Ven comes from ‘Ventus’ meaning ‘Wind’, but a root search on just ‘Ven’ reveals the word ‘Venatus’, meaning ‘the chase’. If we take ‘Chaser’ to mean ‘hunter’ rather than a weapon-maker, then his name has two ties. (Terms relating to poison also crop up.)
Also to note: ‘Ventus’ and ‘Venatus’ are masculine words. ‘Aqua’ is feminine. ‘Terra’, the word most directly tied to earth in Latin, is also feminine.
This doesn’t mean that the E.S. is a woman, since he definitely looks like a guy. After all, the words ‘Aquator’ (water-bearer) and ‘Aquaeductus’ (aquaduct) are masculine, though their root is feminine. It’s up to you whether a name like ‘Terrator’ is too far-fetched for the E.S. (I personally think a name like ‘Solum’ is more likely; it’s neuter, but it doesn’t look as odd as ‘Terrator’.)
on 10 May 2007 at 6:13 am 19. TheWertle
Perhaps Terran?
on 10 May 2007 at 6:41 am 20. Shakespeare
I’m trying my best, but the text in the photo is too blurry to read…the only paragraph that I could make out clearly was the part of the last one of the first column:
‘Sou de wa nai desu. O-sama wa genzai. Hikari to yami no dochira no sekai no KIIBUREEDO mo tsukaeru sougu* desu ne.’
‘That’s not it. The king is there. The Light and the Darkness of each world’s Keyblade are both used to find/change foolishness (?), right?’
…Whatever, I’m too tired, and hardly qualified to translate Japanese…I’m only in 4th year, and I’m still in high school.
(* - the kanji combination is too blurry to make out; it appears to be ‘状戇’…the first is read ’sou’ and means ‘look for, seek; make change’, and the second is read ‘gu’/'oroka’ (according to my computer) and means ‘foolish, stupid’.)
on 10 May 2007 at 6:42 am 21. Shakespeare
‘Terran’ could be a possibility; after all, the names don’t have to be perfect Latin or anything.
on 10 May 2007 at 7:31 am 22. tiredofwaiting
Who knows to be sure, this is a major development. Oh and to all those who thought Ven was Roxas, will you FINALLY SHUT UP???!!!
on 10 May 2007 at 11:59 am 23. vinan123
The E.S. isn’t Xehanort, but is obviously connected to him somehow. I think that there is a fourth form of existence just as sanda wrote, but I don’t think that it’s called a chaser. I think it’s called an Endless. My theory is that when a Nobody is destroyed or gives up its existence an Endless is created. They are called Endless because they are immortal. This would explain why Nomura said that Ven had a connection to Roxas, and not Sora. Ven was ‘born’ from Roxas, not Sora.
on 10 May 2007 at 12:47 pm 24. Riku
The theory has been around awhile, only named “Endless” because of the word in Deep Dive, and has also been named “Soulless” because the new immortal being would be born from the soul of a Nobody. (Heartless have hearts and Nobodies are bodies, which would lead us to believe that Soulless have souls.)
However, I don’t see how it would be possible for an Endless/Soulless to take on human form.
on 10 May 2007 at 1:35 pm 25. Shakespeare
I had considered a similar theory (if you can isolate the heart from the body, why not the soul?), but the Secret Ansem reports state that a being cannot exist without a soul (they simply die). Unless the Endless are ghosts and their somebodies/nobodies have died/disappeared, then their existence would break their own canon.
Nomura’s statements in Another Report say that if a Nobody is destroyed and their Heartless had been destroyed prior (like Xehanort), then the heart (waiting in stasis for its body) and the body reunite, and they return to existence. If the Heartless is at large, then they just fade away.
It’s because of this statement, as well as the Secret Ansem Report, that have lead me to believe that there isn’t a fourth form of existence…unless you DO mean a ghost; they would certainly be ‘endless’, because you can’t kill something that’s already dead (except for zombies), but I don’t think the reception would be that great. (Extreme right-wing evangelicals probably already dislike KH for having MAGIC SPELLS in it or being tied to ‘questionable’ Disney movies like Aladdin or something. We’re dealing with the people who protested Pokemon.)
on 10 May 2007 at 6:11 pm 26. Ace of Diamonds
The Enigmatic Soldier in the picture above is Xehanort. The picture looks exactly like him. The E.S. that challenges Sora isn’t Xehanort, but he knows him, and not in a good way. There must be a close connection between him & Xehanort. Maybe a relative we didn’t know about, or maybe in some relation to Sora, or Riku. There has to be more behind this. There’s gotta be a HUGE reason why they’re keeping his name so Top Secret. I think Xehanort has some kinda of power to keep himself alive. If he had the ability to turn himself into a Heartless and a Nobody, surely there’s gotta be some story behind how he’s still alive.
on 10 May 2007 at 6:56 pm 27. Riku
The Enigmatic Soldier in the picture above looks nothing like Xehanort and is the same as the Enigmatic Soldier that challenges Sora. Nomura confirmed all three were brand new characters, and the name Xehanort isn’t connected to elements of some sort as his name only came from rearranging “Another” and “No Heart” adding an “X”.
Whatever the name is, we won’t have heard it yet.
on 10 May 2007 at 7:53 pm 28. eric
can u explain the history about the secret m,ovie?
on 10 May 2007 at 8:18 pm 29. jayme
sense ven is realted to roxas, aqua might be related to namiea (kiaras nobody, sorry i can spelled good) then the third guy could be related to rikus nobody and this nobody will be revleaed in the third kh that is maybe why they are keeping it secert, and i also think that there will be another game in between kh2 and 3 it that is when rikus nobody is created and i think this war is in the distant furture. and i think the secert ending shows how the world will end and in kh3 he has to stop that from happening and i also think that the org. 13 was org. 14 becuase in a video i saw it said something about xeames getting rid of the orginal leader, and the orginal leader was ansem the wise’s nobody. and something went wrong when he was expirment and created a heartless and nobody of him but still was himself. so that is maybe why he started expiementing on his assitances and that is how the rest of the organizations people were created so what im saying is that the old guy in the secert video is ansem the wise’s nobody. or his nobdy could have been created when the machine expoled. so that is what i think about the new people in the secert video are
on 10 May 2007 at 8:43 pm 30. KevKH
All of u finally figured all of dis out….wow
on 10 May 2007 at 8:45 pm 31. Sand Man
I think that ??? looks like Roxes They both have the same hair style.
on 10 May 2007 at 8:48 pm 32. jayme
are you beening sarkastic?
on 10 May 2007 at 8:49 pm 33. jayme
kevKH
on 10 May 2007 at 9:13 pm 34. Riku
Jayme - Riku never became a Heartless and therefore doesn’t have and has never had a Nobody to be related to.
on 10 May 2007 at 9:15 pm 35. jayme
riku- ya but i mean his nobody could be created later and the war is in the future maybe
it is just a theory
i dont know
on 10 May 2007 at 9:29 pm 36. wiinus
omg thats so riku.
on 10 May 2007 at 9:48 pm 37. toni
i think the enigmatic soldier is related to riku….
on 10 May 2007 at 9:59 pm 38. vinan123
I don’t think that Ansem has a Heartless or a Nobody, because he didn’t lose his heart, he was simply killed.
on 10 May 2007 at 11:17 pm 39. Shakespeare
Jayme, what video did you see this in? Because when Organization XIII started, there were only 6 members; the Nobodies of Xehanort (callin himself Ansem), Braig, Dilan, Even, Elaeus, and Ienzo.
Now Xehanort DID get rid of Ansem the Wise, the leader of their research group and the ruler of Radiant Garden, but he wasn’t the leader of Organization XIII. That’s always been Xemnas.
The E.S. doesn’t look /exactly/ like Xehanort…there is a resemblance, but there is a resemblance between a lot of Nomura’s characters, because they’re all drawn by him. Xehanort has white hair and a darker complexion; the E.S. has very pale skin. Yes, the E.S. is related in some way to Riku, at the very least through his name. The relation to Riku is most likely symbolic, though, so don’t read too much into that statement.
on 10 May 2007 at 11:21 pm 40. jayme
Shakespeare-i found out that my theroy is like totaly wrong but i remember a video that showed 2 org. members talking and they said something about axems getting rid of the surpuoir or something like that i dont really remember it, sorry for my spelling
on 11 May 2007 at 1:24 am 41. Kai
I think what ever Riku is true… But I think place were fighting is past.. Look in secret ending we see castle at end… U think thats castle of onlvion.. and thats cross roads. and Bald man element is Thunder or Power. 5 elements Wind Water Earth Fire Thunder one power.. Ever think X means somthing esel like eXperment.. and what if E.S is Ansem rember in first secret ending u see ansem reports.. and Think Knights teach Micky.. Look Kingdom Hearts Blue ??? Is it spoused me Pink ish sever think Kingdom Hearts was destoryed made Heartless… and Blue one is real one.. People plz dont say thats wrong thats so not true rude do it to other people to… who cares Im wrong Im just guessing this what like when saw.. Kingdom hearts 1 secret ending
on 11 May 2007 at 1:26 am 42. Kai
y pointing fingurs at Xehanort… I know looks like him but You think could be Dark Solider..?
on 11 May 2007 at 1:27 am 43. Kai
guys also Ven means Monk… He looks like fighter can tell
on 11 May 2007 at 1:40 am 44. Kai
dude earth japan means Kai my names Kai omg omg lol
on 11 May 2007 at 1:49 am 45. Kai
Yellls Yea
on 11 May 2007 at 1:50 am 46. chukno
Well, i found that Riku translates to land or shore but also can mean agony of seperation whatever that means so think of a name that is related to shore or land. Just a thought =)
on 11 May 2007 at 1:52 am 47. Kai
well I found out Naminé means ocean wave =P
on 11 May 2007 at 1:52 am 48. chukno
oh and tsuchi, yochi, chi, a-su, daichi, koudo all mean earth so..
on 11 May 2007 at 1:53 am 49. Kai
Roxas means Hudge War
on 11 May 2007 at 1:54 am 50. Kai
add me on msn Roxas.Nobody@hotmail.com
on 11 May 2007 at 1:55 am 51. Kai
what does fire mean?
on 11 May 2007 at 1:57 am 52. chukno
fire is kasai, faia, houka, hi, hinote, kaki, gogyou and kaji
on 11 May 2007 at 2:08 am 53. Kai
Theres a lot elements this world. In KHFM2+ secret ending Knights Names are. Roxas Look alike name Ven witch means Wind and Monk. Aqua(Blue Hair person) Means Water Ocean. Guy looks like xehanort is Name Kai witch means Earth.. aka my r\l name is Kai sweet lol. Naminé means whirel wave Sora means sky. Kairi means Wave Roxas means War Riku means land.. No Heart means In Darkness. Another means Look-a-like. need help info -> Roxas.Nobody@hotmail.com
Lol to many posts ahhhhhhhhh
on 11 May 2007 at 2:54 am 54. Shakespeare
Jayme, might you be thinking about when Xehanort got rid of Ansem the Wise? That’s the closest thing I can think of…
Kai, what language does ‘Roxas’ mean ‘Huge War’? And while we’re on it, what language does ‘Ven’ translate to ‘monk’? I’m pretty sure it’s not Japanese in either case. And ‘Kai’ means ‘Sea’ (the onyomi of the kanji for ‘ocean’ is ‘kai’, and the kunyomi is ‘umi’), not land.
Ven - Wind (Latin)
Sora - Sky (Japanese)
Roxas - Sora + X (English)
Aqua - Water (Latin)
Kai (Kairi) - Sea (Japanese)
Nami (Naminé) - Wave (Japanese)
E.S. - Land (Latin?)
Riku - Land/Shore (Japanese)
on 11 May 2007 at 3:46 am 55. jayme
o yea i guess you are right shakespeare
o well it was a guess
on 11 May 2007 at 3:50 am 56. jayme
who created this site
on 11 May 2007 at 4:37 am 57. Shakespeare
It’s OK Jayme…people still correct me when I refer to Xehanort’s Heartless as ‘KH1!Ansem’, as if I didn’t know that the Ansem of KH1 is different than the REAL Ansem of KH2. (I still call him Ansem because it’s shorter, and everyone still knows who I’m talking about.)
on 11 May 2007 at 6:09 am 58. Riku
Roxas doesn’t mean “Huge War” simply because it’s a rearrangement of Sora with an X. That was the point of it.
There’s an outside chance it means something, but I don’t think it does.
on 11 May 2007 at 1:24 pm 59. Sephiroth
Yeah, I checked my online resources, and there was nothing even remotely close to ‘Rokusasu’ that meant ‘war’. (’Roku’ means six, anyway.)
Oh well, yesterday I had someone tell me that he had a pre-release version of KH3. I told him that it must not be very fun to play, since development hasn’t even started yet.
on 11 May 2007 at 2:01 pm 60. Akiko Leonhart
The last guys name with the ??? is named Ais. He’s Saixs’ somebody.
on 11 May 2007 at 2:24 pm 61. vinan123
It would make since for that guy to be Saix’s somebody. They have the same hairstyle, and when ??? sees Kingdom Hearts, his eyes turn the same color as Saix’s.
on 11 May 2007 at 2:43 pm 62. Shakespeare
Pay no attention to the fact that Shakespeare is very tired and put her name as ‘Sephiroth’ in her last post…>.>
on 11 May 2007 at 2:45 pm 63. Shakespeare
They DO look similar, but since you can fight the E.S. in KH2:FM+, it doesn’t make sense for him to also be Saix, since his Nobody is running around in the game. It’s the same issue with it being Xehanort; Saix can’t be in two places at once.
Also, ‘Ais’ isn’t Latin for ‘earth’. It’s not Latin for anything, according to the Notre Dame online dictionary…
on 11 May 2007 at 3:00 pm 64. vinan123
It actually does make sense for both of them to be in two places at once. Remember, Xemnas and Xehanort’s Heartless were both alive at the same time. Oh wait, Xemnas is a Nobody. Never mind…
on 11 May 2007 at 5:18 pm 65. Riku
??? would also be a COMPLETELY NEW CHARACTER as Nomura has stated many a time already (before Final Mix+) - Ais, although not shown in the games, isn’t a completely new character, as his name is mentioned, which means it’s not him or any other previous human forms we could know of.
on 11 May 2007 at 8:03 pm 66. Tami
it’s funny cause aqua and ven are latin. Lea can mean earth in latin (just like Riku is to earth). Doesn’t lea makes one wonder about Axel’s somebody?
on 11 May 2007 at 8:26 pm 67. eric
i tpught it was saix too but since when he is a good guy? he is just a not principal personage, he is only a boss he dont have a history like the others bnobodies of org 13 so mayBE M-A-B-Y-E THey are somebodies of some of the nobodies from org
did u guyz tought bout that?
on 11 May 2007 at 8:50 pm 68. dodo_woa
hey is there maybe a possible way that ven and roxas are twins, i mean it could kind of explain why they look alike, and they were both sent to different palces when they were born out of sora heart one a chaser, one a special nobody, hey and what do you guys mean by somebody????
on 11 May 2007 at 9:10 pm 69. Riku
Somebody as in the original human being (or other form) before becoming Heartless and Nobody.
on 11 May 2007 at 9:20 pm 70. vinan123
eric, I don’t think that these are the Somebodies of some of the Nobodies of Organization 13, because if that was the case, Aqua’s Nobody would be Larxene. That doesn’t really make sense because, Aqua means water, and Larxene controls electricity.
on 11 May 2007 at 10:00 pm 71. Ace of Diamonds
Where did we all come up with the name Ais? If the Enigmatic Soldier isn’t Xehanort, but looks exactly like him, I sure as hell wanna know who it is. This was the same mystery surrounding Ven when the Secret Movie came out. We all thought it was Roxas, but we were proved wrong regardless of the fact that Roxas looked exactly like Ven. This is the same case with Xehanort. The Enigmatic Soldier looks like him, but it isn’t him. So, if it isn’t Xehanort, then who is he, and for that matter, who was the Armored Knight that challenged Sora? It’s gotta be Xehanort. The Dark Keyblade Warrior, the loss of Xehanort’s memories during The Keyblade War, and the fact that he looks like the Enigmatic Soldier. How could it not be him? Xehanort can’t lose memories in a Keyblade War he was never in. Unless The guy I first thought was Xehanort in The Old Man. But I have a feeling that he’e connected to Ansem the Wise. Eye Color, and Ansem The Wise almost gave into Darkness to seek revenge against Xehanort. The Dark Soldier is still an enigma. We can probably come up with theories on how he came to be, but as to who it actually is, still remains a mystery to me. Then Aqua, who was Resuurected/Reincarnated into Kairi. Kairi is a princess after all, so that little fact may come into attention sooner, or later. More than just why she didn’t have a heartless. Then, I already concluded my theory on King Mickey. Before he was King, he was trained under Yensid, who prepared to fight a great evil by teaching him how to use the Keyblade. So, as far as I’m concerned, he didn’t get his Kingdom Key until we saw him in the Dark Realm at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2.
on 11 May 2007 at 10:46 pm 72. Acerbus
This is just all so incredible! IM TOTALLY CONFUSED!
How do u guys know all this stuff? I dont even know what xehanort has to do whith some keyblade war ur talking about… wtf is going on? sqare enix and disney really messed up, how are they gonna relate that secret vid with the beginning of KH3? whoa its outa control! help
on 12 May 2007 at 1:04 am 73. eric
lol anyoner tought that maybe we are gonna play with king mikey in kH3? cuz this act occours in the pasT! it is obivius since he uses a wensid keyblade as Ace of Diamonds so it is simply! maybe we gonna play as mikey in the war or maybethe warriors are resurrection of roxas riku and kairi or they are new characters not related!!
y they have to be related? who is the old guy? and the thing he summons? maybe u can think that the ES hates xehanort and if that happens that emans it is not him and mean xehanort done soemthing bad in the past , in the keyblade war! do u get wot i mean? that guy that appear in secret vid of KH 2 is maybe xehanort cuz it dont look like the old guy or the thing he summon
maybe iam wrong maybe iam right u will say that to me ;D i hope i donht get spanked lol
on 12 May 2007 at 5:12 am 74. jeff
i think that ven looks roxas cause hes related to sora and soras nobody is roxas and are said to look the same and same thing with kairi and riku except they dont look so similar but are related and the bald guy i think is some type of nobody formed from darkness and i think the names are in latin like some type of other language and i saw on a website that the plot is the bald guy they call erol is going back in time with sephiroth somehow to bring back dark hearts from kingdom hearts which would bring the un-evil hearts too but they are trying to win the war from the past and change time.
on 12 May 2007 at 5:52 am 75. bernaporto
ive been getting some theories together and i do think that riku might have a nobody because like sora he was once a heartless but was able to find light and come back. Another thing, Ansem the wise’s machine was supose to extract hearts right? So when it blew up it might have taken Ansem’s heart creating a heartless and a nobody. Also remember how if a nobody is killed after it’s heartless they are said to fuse together again? This wwould mean that Xehanort is still alive as something else. Maybe a Endless/Souless
on 12 May 2007 at 5:54 am 76. bernaporto
my comment was supported by comments around the 30’s. 2nd page
on 12 May 2007 at 6:07 am 77. kdh
i wonder if the last guy is sora hmm mabe u never now
i wondering if you can make your own keyblade man then go online and fight others
on 12 May 2007 at 6:10 am 78. bernaporto
that seem a bit to much don’t you think??
Also, please comment on my theories.
on 12 May 2007 at 6:10 am 79. bernaporto
It would be great though.
on 12 May 2007 at 6:26 am 80. kdh
what’s the connection between ven and roxas.i think the girl is riku’s nobody. but WHO’s ???. it doesn’t make any sence. most importantly wheres Sora?
on 12 May 2007 at 7:32 am 81. Chibi
Now I know for sure that ???’s name is
QUASAR HIS NAME IS QUASARRRR beacuse in japanese
that means earth and just like the other names this
one is QUASAR
on 12 May 2007 at 4:22 pm 82. eric
it isnt quasar , stop guessing
on 12 May 2007 at 6:02 pm 83. Temdev
Well, my theory is: First, ???? looks more like Xehanort, even when his eyes turn yellow, remember that his heartless and nobody had these yellow/orange eyes. Another thing is that maybe Xehanort is not his real name, remember that Ansem found him badly injured and without any memory from his past, except his name “Xehanort”,so that name could belong to the bald man, in the FM+ the ES spoke about his harthred towards Xehanort. That hate he had could be too much that it stayed with him, he took that name, even as a heartless he took the bald man’s outfit to represent his “darkness”.
And about the black/red masked one, maybe the bald man can separate his heartless, in the secret video they used the same keyblade and ice spells.
Well, thats what I think
(sorry if there are some grammar errors, english is not my language)
on 12 May 2007 at 6:14 pm 84. Mike Riku
The E.S is sora
on 12 May 2007 at 7:09 pm 85. Kai
Ok Im back I dont think Ven is related to Sora because Naruma would say so.. And Naruma mostly makes same drawings and remmber nothing do with Sora , Riku, Kairi maybe elements stands for paths look Wind Water Earth and Fire 4 elements 4 paths I ber u there is another E.S
on 12 May 2007 at 8:27 pm 86. OblivionRiku
Ok The E.S is NOT Sora, and is NOT Xehanort..im not going to explain why because i have done so a million times on other topics..only true KH fans would know so that he is not sora or xehanort. Its possible there might be a relation but it is not any of those 2. HE is a new character so stop lableing him as ANY of the orgnaization members. Or any characters in KH for that matter.
on 12 May 2007 at 8:57 pm 87. Riku
lol Kai, it’s Nomura, and he wouldn’t say so because he wants to keep us in suspense.
on 12 May 2007 at 10:44 pm 88. alex
the enigmatic soldier is the same on that fights sora in the japanese version of KH2
on 12 May 2007 at 10:58 pm 89. Bella
uh…hi.
on 13 May 2007 at 1:02 am 90. Kai
Riku I made mistake lol I ment he wont tell us xD dumb typing
on 13 May 2007 at 1:04 am 91. Kai
and Riku could I apply as staff =]
on 13 May 2007 at 3:11 am 92. Riku
You can “Register” in the links at the sides. From there you can post drafts of News Posts and Info Pages, and if good enough will go up on the site. If you do really well, you might become official staff. It’s very rare for that to happen though.
on 13 May 2007 at 3:15 am 93. aaron/NOXRAA
hey kai ‘ and riku
on 13 May 2007 at 4:08 am 94. bernaporto
I would still like to know what you guys thought of my theory.
Check it out on page 3 i really think it might be possible.
on 13 May 2007 at 12:27 pm 95. Riku
Riku was never a Heartless, and therefore doesn’t have a Nobody. Although his heart was inaccessible while under the control of Xehanort’s Heartless, it was still there.
on 13 May 2007 at 4:31 pm 96. Kai
Riku is rite…
on 13 May 2007 at 4:43 pm 97. Shakespeare
Ace - I’ve always liked the name ‘Ïsa’ for Saïx’s Somebody, since the umlaut stays with the I, and from what I understand, it is a Finnish word.
Anyway, about the E.S.: he and the knight who challenged Sora are the same person. It can’t be Xehanort, because Xehanort’s Heartless is gone, and Xehanort’s Nobody is in The World That Never Was. I still think that the Dark Soldier in the KH2:FM+ trailer is Xehanort. He still can’t be in two places at once.
I don’t really have any theories about Aqua, except what I’ve gathered about my Chaser theory; in the KH2 secret trailer, she picks up Mickey’s Kingdom Key (since the E.s. picked up the one with the gold hilt, that must be Sora’s, and Ven picks up Way To The Dawn), so if my theory about the Chasers’ duty being to train the next generation of Keyblade masters, she would have instructed Mickey. (And if we assume that Xehanort was also a Chaser, then that would leave him to train Kairi, if we also assume that Kairi is in fact a Keyblade wielder.)
Jeff - It’s pretty much assumed that no Final Fantasy character will be a main villain in KH; no matter how popular Sephiroth is, he won’t be playing a pivotal role in KH3. (Sad, I know…I’d love for that to happen. Sora v. Safer Sephiroth would be so cool.)
Chibi - A Quasar is a deep space object. It is definitely not Japanese (you can tell simply by the fact that there’s a ‘Q’ in it.) The Japanese word for ‘earth/land’ is ‘Riku’ (陸), hence the name.
Bernaporto - Ansem the Wise’s machine was built to convert Kingdom Hearts into data. In the explosion, he was probably converted into data, as well.
Riku was never a Heartless, as has already been mentioned.
Yes, Xehanort is alive again. His Heartless was destroyed before his Nobody, and thus the two can recombine normally.
on 13 May 2007 at 5:58 pm 98. bernaporto
if Ansem’s hearth turned to data then he must have turnes into a nobody.
Also i’ve checked over and over again and though it is not perfectly clear Riku does become a heartless however just liek sora he was able to keep control of himself for a lilte while (when he stoped Xenahorts heartless from killing kairy). That also explains why he ended up in Kingdom Hearts and closed the door from the inside.
on 13 May 2007 at 6:08 pm 99. bernaporto
look just because the keyblade kairy used was given to her by riku doesn’t mean that is the reason she could use it. If you remember when Leon held the keyblade in the first game and when Jack Sparrow held it in the second game the keyblade disapeared after 2 or 3 seconds. This means that Kairy has to be a Keyblade wielder.
on 13 May 2007 at 8:07 pm 100. Katrina
CAN’T…FLIPPEN…WAIT…FOR…KH3!!!!!
on 13 May 2007 at 10:33 pm 101. Ace of Diamonds
Sorry, Shakespeare, I didn’t know they were talking about Saix, I thought they were guessing the name for the Enigmatic Soldier.
on 13 May 2007 at 10:34 pm 102. Ace of Diamonds
You know, I was viewing a cutscene from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. The scene where Xigbar has a very interesting talk with Zexion. I think Xigbar knew alot more than he was letting on. He was talking about The Room of Sleep. I take it it’s the place in Radiant Garden in that Underground Laboratory. So, all those doors contained further experimentaion on The Heartless and The Darkness in people’s hearts. And the door at the end of the pathway is The Room of Sleep. Xigbar said that Xemnas was supposed to be the only one in The Room of Sleep, yet he always heard Xemnas talking to someone. And, it’s ironic how we saw the remains of Aqua’s armor, and her Keyblade there. He went on about how long ago it was when many Keyblade Weilders fought many battles. With that, Xigbar said something that really caught my attention, “With The Room of Sleep, comes The Room of Awakening.” “That must be where, the other, “friend” is. That was why Xemnas created Castle Oblivion. It teetered on the Brink of Light & Darkness:Twilight. Since Ven looks exactly like Roxas, The Room of Awakening must be where Ven was. That explains why Vexen was so frantic to find Xemnas at the beginning of the scene. Perhaps Ven awoke from his slumber. So, Aqua is in The Room of Sleep, and Ven was in The Room of Awakening. So, then if the E.S. isn’t Xehanort, who could he be? Maybe, there’s more than one form of him out there. The E.S. that fought Sora, the E.S. in the photo above, the relation to Riku, there must be another Xehanort. An Evil Form, and his good form. In the Ansem Reports, he said that, “The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power”. “One Legend says it’s weilder saved, while another said he wrought ruin, and chaos upon it”. How did he know this? “I must know what this Keyblade is.” “A key opens doors” If he knew The Keyblade Legend, why did he have to know what it was all about? It might sound strange, but when Xehanort’s eyes turned yellow, Xehanort split from his original self, and left behind somebody else. There is another Xehanort. That has to be the logical explanation. The E.S. looking like Xehanort, the man in the SAME armor expressing hatred for Xehanort. It’s all gotta make sense.
on 14 May 2007 at 12:40 am 103. Mike Riku
I think E.S is sora because he has the same color hair , eyes, and skin color. And mybe he change eye color because he is change into a form ,he got older , and got a new keyblade.Mybe the new keyblade name is the knignt of hearts.
on 14 May 2007 at 1:42 am 104. Kai
Mike riku thats wrong because rember u fight E.S In Khfm2+ or maybe destory him get his keyblade no thats wrong because You would get in Kh2fm+ mhm I dont think so but maybe =\ Sora means sky thoe But eh donno rember Naruma said so thease new people but dident say about Bald Guy and is other persoon ever think Tht Bald Guy is Xehanort remmber take X means Another No Heart Maybe they = same word Like Another No Heart like example bald guy summons another guy from him mhm I wonder lol well I gtg =] Maybe Mike Riku
Roxas.Nobody@hotmail.com
on 14 May 2007 at 1:45 am 105. Ven
Im Kai my name as known as Ven Now =]
on 14 May 2007 at 1:52 am 106. Ace of Diamonds
So, I guess I was right. Xehanort= No Heart & Another. Another. If you read my previous posts, I mentioned Xehnaort maybe splitting into 2 beings. One with No Heart, and the Other. Xehnaort probably stole the heart from his other form to live functionally. The “other” Xehnaort seeks revenge.
on 14 May 2007 at 2:37 am 107. Knight
u fight E.S but is only a memory
on 14 May 2007 at 3:35 am 108. Shakespeare
Ace - They were saying that Saïx’s Somebody was the E.S…so that’s why I brought him up. XDD
Also, remember that Xigbar is Number II in the Organization; he was one of Ansem the Wise’s apprentices. He definitely knows more than he lets on. Ansem did. Yen Sid probably does, too. (Granted, Zexion’s Somebody was an apprentice, too, but he was the youngest of the apprentices. Xigbar’s Somebody had more time to learn all the inner workings and such. Also, Braig could have been working on that project while Ienzo was off doing something completely unrelated. Plus, Xigbar’s the type who would withhold information just to watch people squirm.)
…I’m not sure how to address your question of ‘I the E.S. isn’t Xehanort, then who is he?’ since he’s a new character that we’ve never met. We don’t know…but his name will be a Latin tie to ‘earth’. And I don’t think there’s more than one of him; in KH1’s Final Mix, the was the Enigmatic Man who wore an Organization cloak. The Enigmatic Man was Xemnas, and there’s not more of HIM running around. (Also, the Organization has a uniform. The Chasers do not; each of their suits of armor is distinct.)
He knows the legend of the Keyblade because Mickey told him, remember? Gimme a minute, and I’ll have the quote for you…* (Note: Found it: Ansem Report 9. It’s at the end for your viewing pleasure.) And he probably looks similar because he’s drawn in a more mature character’s style. Ven and Aqua are younger, and thus looks similar to the younger cast (namely Kairi and Roxas). The E.S. is an older character, so he will share similarities in design to older characters (sharp features, narrower/more angled eyes, etc.)
Bernaporto - I’m not saying that Kairi ISN’T a Keyblade wielder. I’m postulating based on the assumption that she IS (and that Xehanort is, as well).
I didn’t say just his heart; ALL of Ansem the Wise was caught in that explosion, and ALL of him was gone afterward.
I’m pretty sure that Riku wasn’t a Heartless there; he accepted MORE of the Darkness, and a Heartless sort of took up residence inside him (just like Kairi’s heart was inside of Sora, Ansem was inside of Riku), but he didn’t become a Heartless himself. That would kind of be a big plot point to leave out.
(* - Kingdom Hearts 1, Ansem Report #9:
“Simply astonishing! Today I had a guest from another world. He is a king […]
[…] But one story in particular caught my interest: that of a key called the “Keyblade.” The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power.
One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it. […]”)
on 14 May 2007 at 12:32 pm 109. Sora995
I wonder what happened to sora?
on 14 May 2007 at 8:06 pm 110. kdh
who’s terra
on 15 May 2007 at 2:17 am 111. Shakespeare
kdh– Terra is the E.S. His name is confirmed.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:18 am 112. bernaporto
my comments aren’t coming through.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:20 am 113. bernaporto
Shakespear- About Kairy I was just trying to clear that point up.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:20 am 114. bernaporto
And though I understand that All of Ansem was caught in the explosion the machine was only supposed to make hearths into data. But its just an idea.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:21 am 115. bernaporto
I still believe that Riku is an heartless. How else would he end up in Kingdom Hearts.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:21 am 116. bernaporto
Sorry about the split comments but i can’t make a comlpex comment for some reason.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:22 am 117. bernaporto
I also believe that King Mickey turned Riku to normal just like Kairy turned Sora to normal.
on 15 May 2007 at 4:09 am 118. hurricaneivan
actually, i look up the latin word for earth, and i came across terra and gaiya or something and i was like “TAHTS IT, ITS TERRA!!!” haha, but that dudes like xehanort. its gotta be
on 15 May 2007 at 2:07 pm 119. Shakespeare
Well, the machine DID explode…working machines don’t usually explode when they’re working properly. lol
And Mickey was also inside Kingdom Hearts, and he’s no Heartless.
on 15 May 2007 at 4:18 pm 120. Knight
in one of he clips in Kingdom hearts 2 Final mix, it shows that a nobody is old friends with Ven and in the interview it said that it is in the keyblade knights are in the past so did it said in the game
on 15 May 2007 at 9:10 pm 121. bernaporto
mickey was in the realm of light because he was looking for the leader of the organization.
He explains that in Kingdom Hearts 2. It’s a scene in holloohw bastion right after you first visit to space paranoids(tron’s world).
on 15 May 2007 at 9:11 pm 122. bernaporto
sorry realm of darkness or Kingdom Hearts
on 15 May 2007 at 9:28 pm 123. bernaporto
if you look at nomura’s last interview she says that the king can wield keyblades from both realms. Is this supposed to mean that Mickey has a dark side? Probably not.
Also, Nomura also states that there can be as many keyblade wielders as there arepeople with qualified hearts. I’d say that Xehanort’s heart is pretty strong as he was the only person except sora and riku to have control over his heartless.
This supports that Xehanort is a keyblade wielder. And for anyone who thinks he died if anyone remember that his nobody was destroyed after his heartless and they were there fore able to join normaly and bring Xehanort back to life has either a somebody or a Souless/Endless.
on 15 May 2007 at 10:01 pm 124. bernaporto
please ckicl my name. This is not the real cover but it does look nice.
on 15 May 2007 at 10:30 pm 125. bernaporto
i meant click.
on 15 May 2007 at 10:31 pm 126. bernaporto
nice right???
on 16 May 2007 at 1:53 am 127. Shakespeare
I just brought up Mickey to say that it’s not only Heartless inside Kingdom Hearts.
Everything has darkness and light, even Mickey. That’s what makes the Seven Princesses so remarkable; they have absolutely no darkness in their hearts.
And Xehanort is most likely back as a Somebody; Nomura hasn’t indicated that anything odd happens when the heart and body recombine.
on 16 May 2007 at 2:15 am 128. bernaporto
don’t you think it’sweird that after your somebody has been killed and both the nobody and the heartless die you just come back to life?
on 16 May 2007 at 2:15 am 129. bernaporto
Your probably right though.
on 16 May 2007 at 5:19 am 130. Shakespeare
It is weird, but it’s straight from Nomura’s mouth, so I’m gonna say it’s pretty official.
on 16 May 2007 at 11:23 pm 131. bernaporto
i know.
on 17 May 2007 at 2:05 am 132. Shakespeare
Yeah, well, it was straight from Nomura’s mouth that everyone in the secret trailer was new, and people still said that Ven was Roxas. *shrug*
on 17 May 2007 at 2:19 am 133. bernaporto
Some people just can’t take that thought out their head. I don’t even think it owuld make that good a plot if ti was roxas.
on 17 May 2007 at 3:12 am 134. bernaporto
would
on 17 May 2007 at 1:34 pm 135. Shakespeare
Yeah…I suppose that’s why we have the realm of Fan Fiction, ne? So they can attempt to explore those ideas while the rest of us sit back and say ‘Wow…I’m kind of glad that was just a fanfic.’
on 17 May 2007 at 8:51 pm 136. bernaporto
lol yeah
on 18 May 2007 at 12:28 am 137. zexionforever
the new charicters are alternateversions of themselves this is just atheory [ made by me] but mabey the knight known as ven is asouless form of roxas
on 18 May 2007 at 3:40 am 138. Shakespeare
…Alternate versions of themselves. Considering that we don’t know them right now, how would we known anyway?
on 18 May 2007 at 3:46 am 139. aaron/NOXRAA
you all are pests
on 18 May 2007 at 3:48 am 140. aaron/NOXRAA
pests pests pests pests pests pests
on 18 May 2007 at 3:49 am 141. aaron/NOXRAA
ok bye every one see you later!!!!
on 18 May 2007 at 3:55 am 142. Shakespeare
Oho…interesting.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:00 am 143. aaron/NOXRAA
sorry about that i found the story of kh3
on 18 May 2007 at 4:12 am 144. Zen
Aaron? You still on?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:15 am 145. aaron/NOXRAA
hey hey ZEN!!!!!!!?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:16 am 146. Zen
Hi. How are you?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:17 am 147. aaron/NOXRAA
GOOD I JUST FOUND THE STORY FOR KINGDOM HEARTS 3 THE KEY BLADE WARS
on 18 May 2007 at 4:18 am 148. Zen
Tell me.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:19 am 149. aaron/NOXRAA
ok its going to take a wail to right so dont leave
on 18 May 2007 at 4:19 am 150. aaron/NOXRAA
ok?????????????????
on 18 May 2007 at 4:20 am 151. Zen
Okay. I’ll check my email while you write it.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:21 am 152. Shakespeare
This should be interesting.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:22 am 153. Zen
Hello, Shakespeare.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:24 am 154. aaron/NOXRAA
never mind ill give you the web site the kingdom key .com
on 18 May 2007 at 4:25 am 155. aaron/NOXRAA
its THE KINGDOM KEY .COM I THINK
on 18 May 2007 at 4:26 am 156. Shakespeare
Good evening.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:26 am 157. Zen
I’ll try that.
I was reading back. Did you call me a retard on a different page???
on 18 May 2007 at 4:28 am 158. Shakespeare
I just got a redirect to ‘onelineegames.com’…
And I didn’t call you a retard, if that’s what you’re asking. O,o
on 18 May 2007 at 4:29 am 159. aaron/NOXRAA
THE CHASERS ARE GOOD GUYS BUT XENORT CREATED THEM AND THEY HAVE KEYBLADES TO SO DOES XENORT BUT MICKEY TELLS SORA THAT THE CHASERS ARE BAD AND SOME THING ABOUT SORAS NOT HIM SELF AND THE OLEY WAY TO MAKE HIM BETTER IS TO KILL THE REAST OF THE KEYBLADE WELDERS
on 18 May 2007 at 4:31 am 160. Shakespeare
…That’s pretty far-fetched. Sora would have to kill Riku and Kairi for that to work, and he would never do that. Not after the lengths he’s gone to protect them.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:32 am 161. aaron/NOXRAA
AND HE DOES NOT KILL HIS FRIENDS BUT HE KILLS ROXAS
on 18 May 2007 at 4:32 am 162. Zen
Shakespeare, sorry, I was talking to Aaron.
Aaron? Did you call me a retard?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:33 am 163. aaron/NOXRAA
no what are you talking about zen?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:34 am 164. Zen
Yeah, killing them after all that would be a pretty backward thing to do. I would also be really ticked off if he did. I’d probably stop playing. I don’t want him to kill Roxas, either.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:34 am 165. Zen
It was on a different page. I must have misread. Sorry for jumping to conclusions.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:34 am 166. aaron/NOXRAA
sorry but he does
on 18 May 2007 at 4:35 am 167. Zen
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHY? I hate him a bit, now.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:36 am 168. aaron/NOXRAA
and every one with a keyblade
on 18 May 2007 at 4:36 am 169. Shakespeare
How could he kill Roxas? Roxas has returned to him and they’re one being again. That doesn’t make any sense, and therefore, I am going to straight up say this:
There’s no way that’s KH’s future. It’s bull.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:36 am 170. Zen
Gotta go. My mom’s coming. Good night. Talk to you tomorrow.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:37 am 171. aaron/NOXRAA
no its true
on 18 May 2007 at 4:39 am 172. Shakespeare
I see no proof. The page you gave me linked to a page a la ‘information.com’. It has no content. It’s not a real webpage. It’s pretty much the domain registrar’s default page.
Not to mention that your idea makes no sense for reasons that I have already mentioned.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:40 am 173. aaron/NOXRAA
mmmmmmmmm wait a sec let me find that web site
on 18 May 2007 at 4:42 am 174. Shakespeare
Sounds like a plan. I’ll wait.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:46 am 175. aaron/NOXRAA
ok its kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy/kingdomhearts3/story.shtml
on 18 May 2007 at 4:49 am 176. Shakespeare
…That’s not a website, either.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:49 am 177. aaron/NOXRAA
no thats it
on 18 May 2007 at 4:51 am 178. Shakespeare
I tried KingdomHearts.com, RPGPlanet.com, and GameSpy.com, and none of them had matching pages.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:51 am 179. aaron/NOXRAA
what !!!!!!!!!!
on 18 May 2007 at 4:52 am 180. Shakespeare
And it’s not a website if it doesn’t have a .com/.org/some other applicable dot-something ending.
Care to try one more time?
on 18 May 2007 at 4:54 am 181. aaron/NOXRAA
thats what it said i dont know what to tell you then
on 18 May 2007 at 4:56 am 182. Shakespeare
Did you copy and paste it out of the address bar? Because if you did, I’m amazed you got to anywhere other than ‘This Page Cannot Be Displayed’ links.
Besides, Nomura wouldn’t tell the plot of his game. He hasn’t done it for the last three, and he’s not about to start.
on 18 May 2007 at 4:57 am 183. aaron/NOXRAA
whats your email i can email it to you
on 18 May 2007 at 5:00 am 184. Shakespeare
Why can’t you just paste it here?
on 18 May 2007 at 5:01 am 185. aaron/NOXRAA
hello shakespeare
on 18 May 2007 at 5:01 am 186. aaron/NOXRAA
i dont know how
on 18 May 2007 at 5:03 am 187. Shakespeare
You highlight the address of the page, right click it, hit ‘copy’, then right click in the ‘Website’ box (underneath ‘Mail’) and click paste.
on 18 May 2007 at 5:03 am 188. aaron/NOXRAA
ok hang on
on 18 May 2007 at 5:04 am 189. aaron/NOXRAA
on 18 May 2007 at 5:01 am 186. aaron/NOXRAA
on 18 May 2007 at 5:05 am 190. aaron/NOXRAA
ok it worked see if thats it
on 18 May 2007 at 5:07 am 191. Shakespeare
It didn’t work on my end. Your name isn’t a link.
on 18 May 2007 at 5:08 am 192. aaron/NOXRAA
i know it says your comment is waiting
on 18 May 2007 at 5:10 am 193. aaron/NOXRAA
power. He may have had no heart, but he was still complete in being. His body and soul were left as a Nobody, to be called Xemnas. The rest of him became a spirit, roaming the lands looking for a suitable body to inhabit. He was not “part” of the physical world, and therefore didn’t “exist”. But soon he found Riku, who was quite suitable for him to inhabit. He called himself Ansem, stealing the name from Ansem the Wise. Ansem was then able to return to the physical world, using Riku as his vessel.
This was only made possible by the fact that when the Chasers removed his memories, they had to implant them in his Keyblade, which would be returned to him once he returned, but that didn’t happen.
Sora dreams of the battle, and of Xehanort’s outrage against the Chasers. The next day, Sora, Riku, and Kairi receive a letter in the bottle from King Mickey, explaining the rise of a force that could spark a new Keyblade War. But things become confusing for Sora when he learns that these are not the forces of Darkness he is fighting, but the forces of Light. What’s worse is, the only way he knows to oppose them is by fighting to represent Darkness. Sora can’t accept working for them, so the Chasers contact him. They tell him that he doesn’t work for Darkness, but simply of his own devices to keep the balance of the Realms intact.
The Chasers then go on to decide that it is possible to remain objective and neutral even with a heart, as opposed to what they once believed. In light of this, Sora is inducted into the Chasers, in order to fight the forces of Light and restore balance to the Realms.
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on 18 May 2007 at 5:10 am 194. aaron/NOXRAA
ok thats some of it
on 18 May 2007 at 5:12 am 195. Shakespeare
You have to do it like this…if you click on my name, it’ll take you to UnlimitedGamer’s page where all the Secret Ansem Reports are displayed. You can’t just type it in the text box, or it will be counted as spam. You have to put the address in the third box above the text field (the one below ‘Name (required)’ and ‘Mail (will not be published)(required)’).
on 18 May 2007 at 5:13 am 196. Shakespeare
I found the page by google-ing a portion of the report…the title of the page is ‘Kingdom Hearts 3 Story Speculation’.
So you’re still wrong, it’s not the story of KH3.
on 18 May 2007 at 5:16 am 197. aaron/NOXRAA
see if this is it
on 18 May 2007 at 5:18 am 198. Shakespeare
Quote from the page you have provided:
“Kingdom Hearts 3 Story Speculation ::.
This page is not to be considered fact or an official plot summary of any title in the Kingdom Hearts universe.”
This is NOT the story of KH3.
on 18 May 2007 at 5:19 am 199. aaron/NOXRAA
but it makes a lot of sence
on 18 May 2007 at 5:22 am 200. aaron/NOXRAA
crap
on 18 May 2007 at 5:24 am 201. aaron/NOXRAA
hey ill talk to you tommro
on 18 May 2007 at 5:24 am 202. Shakespeare
((Gah, come on WordPress, show my posts!))
Actually, it doesn’t, really. How could Xehanort lose his heart if he didn’t have a heart to begin with? How can you lose something that you don’t have?
And how could a Keyblade, an item that chooses its master based on the strength of the master’s heart, be used by someone who doesn’t have a heart?
Furthermore, how could Ansem have done everything he did BEFORE he met Riku (such as build the Heartless Maker, send Kairi to Destiny Islands, send countless worlds asunder via the darkness, break down the walls surrounding the worlds, etc.) if he had no corporeal body?
It’s a well-written idea, but it doesn’t wash with what we know from the KH series and the KH2:FM+ trailer. Not once does that page mention the bald man, or the fact that the bald man and the warrior in ‘Heartless Armor’ seem to have no trouble taking on the Chasers.
on 18 May 2007 at 5:24 am 203. aaron/NOXRAA
BYE
on 18 May 2007 at 6:09 am 204. tazmanianchocobo
I read that whole KH3 plot and I only have one thing to say, anyone who believe that is how it happens is ignorant. The whole thing is contradicts stuff we already know about KH. First of all you can’t have heartless if you don’t have a heart, in fact your not a complete being if you don’t have a heart. Man whoever wrote that was grasping at straws. Also that was written before KH2: FM+ came out. They haven’t even reported on the KH2: FM+ yet. Their last major news was Kingdom Hearts voted 22nd best RPG on IGN which happened on March 26 of this year. Three days before the release of KH2: FM+. That means that this theory was before the KH2: FM+ was even seen in the US. So I wouldn’t put much weight on what they say, in fact I wouldn’t put any. Next time check and see how update the site is before using it as reliable source of information.
on 18 May 2007 at 12:35 pm 205. bernaporto
they did that to one of my comments to.
on 18 May 2007 at 12:42 pm 206. bernaporto
how does it make sense that Xehanort had no heart but gave it up in search of power.
on 18 May 2007 at 12:46 pm 207. bernaporto
i agree with shakespear and tazmanianchocobo that all of this is bull. But it still doesn’t say anything about Sora having to kill his friends or killing Roxas.
on 18 May 2007 at 1:22 pm 208. Shakespeare
Yeah, one of the first things I do on a source is check the date. (Mainly because in extemp, if I couldn’t find a date on an article, then I pretty much couldn’t use it, because any reliable source will have publishing dates.) But yeah, the fact that there’s a giant disclaimer in bold before the article kind of removes any actual weight it may have. Now, it’s nothing more than the bare bones of a fanfic plot, really…a fanfic that completely disregards canon. If you were to change the names and such, you’d instantly have an original story.
on 19 May 2007 at 8:37 pm 209. britt
does anyone know or have rumors on why Ven looks like Roxas? Why is his name related Sora’s? I’m confused ;P
on 19 May 2007 at 8:39 pm 210. Xogonal
all that it is known is that ven is related to sora (at least in the name) and if ven is related to sora he is also related to Roxas
on 20 May 2007 at 12:40 am 211. Shakespeare
It could just be that they [Ven and Roxas] have the same hair and eye color and similar hairstyles…who knows?
on 22 May 2007 at 11:33 pm 212. icefire5689
could be.
on 23 May 2007 at 1:34 pm 213. Shakespeare
When the camera pulls back and we look down on Aqua and Ven (when the Old Man summons Kingdom Hearts), I thought he looked more like Cloud, really. (But Roxas and Cloud do look very similar…oh well. That was my first thought when I did my analysis on the Keyblades used in the movies.)
on 24 May 2007 at 2:01 am 214. Kira Kira
wow, i just read through all 213 comments, you people have alot to say! and that shakespeare seems to know the most, and also has the most common sense on the subject, so thank you:) if you read through yen sid’s old book in KH2, it seems to secretly hold tons of information, yet to me is still difficult to understand, so message me if you have a myspace if you have trouble, just click my name:D
on 24 May 2007 at 2:02 am 215. Kira Kira
ps: kai [or ven], i hope you make staff;)
on 24 May 2007 at 6:33 am 216. Shakespeare
Thanks for the compliments, Kira.
Agh, your name only reminds me that Death Note Volume 12 doesn’t come out ’til July…grr. XDD
on 26 May 2007 at 5:49 am 217. Kira Kira
no problem:) well i wasn’t exactly aiming for death note volume 12, kira kira is just a nickname, but anyways…did anyone ever realize that mickey’s keyblade is star seeker-the one that sora gets after visiting yen sid?? Mickey was trained in the past by yen sid. so theres another piece of evidence that this cut scene is non-futuristic, just a thought;)
on 27 May 2007 at 7:48 am 218. Shakespeare
Yeah. Yen Sid had to be in possession of Star Seeker for quite some time, if he had time to give it to Mickey, get it BACK from Mickey, and then give it to Sora in KH2.
on 28 May 2007 at 4:52 pm 219. Exdeath64
seems possible, and it could work with the other keyblades, like the ones from Halloween town, or agrabah, they had to come from somewhere
on 29 May 2007 at 8:25 pm 220. jose
I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING KINDA “DUMB” AND KINDA “MAYBE ITS TRUE” WHAT IF VEN IS SORAS AND ROXAS’S CHASER.AND AQUA IS KAIRI’S CHASER,AND TERRA IS RIKU’S CHASER.LIKE ROXAS IS SORAS NOBODY.I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER THEORY SINCE NOBODIES ARE FORMED WHEN HEARTLESS ARE FORMED THEN CHASERS ARE FORMED WHEN A HEARTLESS A NOBODY IS BORNED.BEFORE I SAY THIS OTHER THEORY I GOT A QUESTION TO ASK THAT I KEEP FORGETTING THE ANSWER,IS NAMINE A NOBODY OF KAIRI OR WHAT?IF IT IS THIS IS MY THEORY SORA BECAME A HEARTLESS AND CREATED ROXAS WHICH CREATED VEN.AND THEN AGAIN IM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS BUT SINCE NAMINE IS KAIRIS NOBODY THEN AQUA WAS CREATED.WHEN RIKU BECCAME AND LETTED DARKNESS TAKE HIS BODY HE BECAME A HEARTLESS “ANSEM” WHICH THEN TERRA WAS CREATED.SO MAYBE THATS WHY NOMURA STATED THAT THAT THEY HAVE A CONNECTION BETWEEN EACH OTHER.SO I DONT REALLY KNOW IF ITS TRUE BUT IT DOES SOUND KIND OF REAL.
on 29 May 2007 at 8:33 pm 221. jose
OH MY GOD I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING COOL HOW DID KAIRIS MOM KNOW ABOUT THE KEYBLADE WAR IM THINKING THAT KAIRIS MOM IS AQUA.CUZ I DONT THINK THEY EVER SAID KAIRIS MOM NAME RIGHT? I DONT REALLY KNOW ABOUT VEN AND TERRA BUT YEA I GUESS THATS A GOOD THEORY!
on 29 May 2007 at 11:08 pm 222. Exdeath64
please, i implore you, cut back on the coffee…Please! its a matter of life and death
on 30 May 2007 at 5:32 am 223. yazuki
ive got a feeling bout those kinghts…
maybe the kh3 tells us bout the past before sora’s and might be the very first keybladers joined the keyblade war and secrets of xehanort’s pasts would revealed in it…
and i hope that the ultimate keyblade in the third one maybe the very first one that ven had…
on 30 May 2007 at 2:12 pm 224. Shakespeare
Capslock abuse aside, I’ll respond.
It was Kairi’s grandmother in Hollow Bastion.
Ansem is not Riku’s Heartless. Ansem is Xehanort’s Heartless, and entered his body as a parasite feeding on Riku’s Darkness. Likewise, just because Sora’s heart held Kairi’s heart doesn’t then make Sora Kairi.
Yes, Namine is Kairi’s Nobody. Before anyone asks, not ALL Nobodies have Xs in their names, only those in Organization XIII (hence the X).
on 02 Jun 2007 at 10:20 pm 225. KH Skyks Lord
Does anyone know the name of that keyblade master that the old guy summons? also with jose’s theory i support it, ancestors maybe, maybe related who knows?
on 03 Jun 2007 at 12:58 pm 226. Xack
I have the same theory as Jose but in a different way… there really should be four types of people
half hearted [either a mother or a father passing half of themselves onward to their children or something… ooor basically sora and riku and stuff since a person is made of both light and dark. because darkness does not mean heartless btw. Or it could be the soldiers being half of what the full heart is. or something… meh idk… you figure what im saying lol ]
full hearted - same as above kind of thing…
nobody - shell aka physical
heartless - spiritual i guess…
but anyway what im trying to say is complicated D= so maybe you should ignore it lol.
There are four warriors [well i think]… the dark heartless guy that un-merges with the bald guy as he is walking toward the three soldiers is a soldier… I know this because there are four main elements
fire
water
earth
wind
and each of the soldiers have a Latin name to represent an element.
water being the blue haired chick named Aqua
earth being the brown haired boy named Terra
wind being the blonde haired boy who looks very similar to Roxas (who’s name means war) is Ven
now who is missing?, we all know that the old man is MUCH older than the other soldiers… I believe that the old man has posessed the soldier much like how Ansem posessed Riku. Now what is the Latin word for fire? Ingnis!… I’m not saying this is his name… but if he is indeed a soldier it is going to have to be a latin name… All the soldiers in KH3 have latin names… The Hero’s Sora, Kairi and Riku have names of landscapes representing elements in Japanese.
Riku - Land
Kairi - Sea
Sora - Sky
but since there are only 3 of the elemental japanese names known now in KH2… there must be another closely related to Sora… Who has the name representing either hell heaven lava or volcano… possibly even weather.
You see… the names dont mean they ARE the element… It’s just structure… Because something I noticed about ignis is that he was using ice.
I also believe that the old man is the controller of heartless and that is exactly the reason why the soldiers became aggitated when they saw the dark soldier emerge from the old man.
The soldiers are meant to be the 4 soldiers of heartful in my eyes… dawn daylight dusk night… the four states of the day.
Darkness does not mean evil… Night was made for men to sleep.
nooow…
the different types of people
heartless [taintedest of tainted? =S]
nobody
heartful [purest of pure]
half hearted
… oh you can get the rest yourselves you lazy bums!
on 03 Jun 2007 at 1:45 pm 227. Xack
aaagh
correct me if I’m wrong about ANYTHING… possibly everythig xDDD
but anywhoo
my friend mentioned the name vincent to me… about some soldier being named it
and well Vens name is similar… maybe his full name is vencent.
on 05 Jun 2007 at 1:46 pm 228. Xack
okay nevermind lol!
I really just want someone to blurt out about as much as what i said… so I can catch up or whatever lol.
my friend says he has a relative in square enix and that the old guy is Xenohart and that he is Ansems butler or some babble. He forgets who he is or something and he also said that he is a soldier annd something about oh poo i lost what i was saying
someone write something! =^_^=
on 06 Jun 2007 at 3:54 am 229. Roxas/ven
This is a very weird thought but what if Ven was Sora’s cousin!sora,sky and ven,wind they both have to do with air, maybe the old dude is air!!!
on 06 Jun 2007 at 12:50 pm 230. axellover500
im thinkin u r right
on 06 Jun 2007 at 7:21 pm 231. Shakespeare
I’ve always met with a lot of flak for suggesting that the mysterious soldier’s name might be ‘Ignus’, arguing that, if Ignus is Xehanort, then his name be tied with Darkness, not fire, and completely missing my point. (Besides, Aqua also thunder magic, as well as ice and Reflect. Just because your name is tied to an element doesn’t mean anything.)
Also, regarding the Sora, Riku and Kairi note: The Asian elements are Wood, Fire, Water, Metal and Earth. Since their names are tied to actual Japanese words, if they were meant to have ties to elements of nature rather than landscapes, their names would probably be similar to those listed above.
And if the Dark Knight (’Ignus’) is Xehanort, remember that his name rearranges to ‘Another’, indicating that he is out of place. Sora, Riku and Kairi don’t have ‘another’.
on 06 Jun 2007 at 10:04 pm 232. keymaster
chasers can`t be the fourth stage of a person because I found out Sora,Mickey,Riku,and Kiari are chasers and they are somebodies.
on 06 Jun 2007 at 10:08 pm 233. keymaster
Did anyone see that the bald headed guy`s clothing looks familer?He is wearing the same clothig as Xehanort`s heartless in kingdom hearts 1
on 08 Jun 2007 at 4:05 am 234. Shakespeare
You don’t say. And where did you find out that Sora and company are the Chasers?
on 09 Jun 2007 at 8:25 pm 235. alex
when does kingdon hearts 3 come out
on 09 Jun 2007 at 10:25 pm 236. Shakespeare
We don’t know yet. We’ve gotten no word on it.
on 10 Jun 2007 at 5:49 am 237. uknown???
did you guys no in kh3 (when it comes out:)) that it starts in the past and orginization13 where sombodys untill defeated by some kid i dont know who while yen sing was the first key blade holder it shows the first war between the nobodys(the orginization) and the nobodys that we no now and have defeted already but youre not sora for half of the game now thats all ican tell you know for if i tell you the rest of the game then it wont be any fun for you sincerly king mickey you know the one that owns a computer oh and umm whats all this DUM stuff about aqua and venn you guys are way off track who ever posted those notes is pretty dum no effence but just becouse there names all have to do with latin names for elements doesent mean theres some SECRET UNDER COVER GUY that nobody knows about like guys cmon youre going CrAzY over a game trust me ive played the game and beaten it ill tell you one more thing sora doesnt get any older and the best key blade you get is the darkness blade it kills a boss in about 50 hits and thats onn very hard mode piece out gamers
on 10 Jun 2007 at 7:09 am 238. Shakespeare