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1. on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:24 pm 551. Vennos(mKh)
   

   no, it was set in the past cause mickey didnt have the key of darkness from the dark realm in the video yet, Matek of the Artum. so this story could be taking place in mickeys adventure in the realm of darkness, thats my guess. the first secret ending is probably for the new series.

2. on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:27 pm 552. Khmegafan
   

   yea thats true I aree with the comment before me…becuz i think mickey was training which wud explain y he had the old traiining keyblade…

3. on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:47 pm 553. Dan the Fan
   

   OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! it mite’iv happind wile Namine was restorin Sora’s memerees, or sumwher els not 2 lon ago.also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
   dats all ive gotta say.

4. on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:48 pm 554. Dan the Fan
   

   OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
   dats all ive gotta say.

5. on 25 Jun 2007 at 1:58 am 555. musicfrk12
   

   Mixup, let me just ask you this… How do you know that is Xehanort in the trailer? It could be Sora (I know I know, it’s not and I’m crazy for saying it, but we don’t know now do we?)

   HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IT IS SET IN THE PAST??? For all we know it could be a centry into the future…

   Oh, one last little think. In one of the interveiws, Nomura said that the trailer was ment to confuse you even more and make it harder to figure. Keep that in mind.

6. on 25 Jun 2007 at 2:32 am 556. valor
   

   we know its in the past coz mickey has star seeker keyblade. its set wen mickeys training with yen sid.

7. on 25 Jun 2007 at 6:28 am 557. Mixup
   

   WHAT THE HELL?!?!
   I AM TRYING TO POST A COMMENT, AND IT IS NOT SHOWING UP!
   WTF IS GOING ON?!?!

8. on 25 Jun 2007 at 3:32 pm 558. Kahou
   

   Ok, this is my first post here and I wanted to bring up some evidence for the “For the future” idea.

   It seems everyone is pretty much settled on it being in the past because of mickeys key.

   But the secret ending from KH2 and KH2FM+ is actually two parts of one movie.
   In the KH2 secret ending they walk to the center of a graveyard of keyblades where they pick up three keys.

   Kingdom key (Sora’s default keyblade in prerendered movies)
   The inverse Kindom key (Mickeys keyblade the formal I know not of)
   And an unidentified keyblade as far as my knowledge go’s.

   The argument for for the past is mickey is weilding the Star seeker and not the Keyblade he got from the realm of darkness. Which would suggest that his keyblade doesn’t even exsist, and yet there it is next to the kindom key.

   Also, an speculation as to why those three keyblades are seperate, what’s there signifigance.

   Why do Ven aqua and Terra pick them up?

   Idea’s?

   (Very first anything on KH3.net ^_^)

9. on 26 Jun 2007 at 12:53 pm 559. Mixup
   

   Finally!
   Someone who agrees with me!

10. on 26 Jun 2007 at 1:44 pm 560. Kahou
    

    Well, at least it sounds like it makes sence XD Right?

11. on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:04 pm 561. Thimien
    

    the 3rd keyblade taht you speak of is, Rikus, “Way to Dawn” and the other 2 are Soras and Mickeys Keyblades.

    The only reason why i could possably say its the future.. is because to me Mickey arives at the paces years after that batle and that reunion hpns, as far as i remember, the keyblade taht a caracters receives is like say the default right… the reason why you can get deferent keyblades, is because you connect keychains, and not change keyblades.. so on that last scene Mickey oredy has his dark Keyblade.. he is just using a deferent keychain… probably to let us know he and Yen Cid are still at work who knows.??

    apart from that the rest of the 2 videos, are oredy in deferent time lines, KH2 and KH2fm, are 2 deferent videos.. they are not conected one after the other, and the why, is because the FM one, is meant to be the 1st time, and the KH2 one is 2nd in time. “It all began with Birth by Sleep” thats the name of the FM video, so therefore thats the 1st in time.

    Besides that. on FM video.. Sora and co keyblades are not in their hands anymore… maybe they dont even exist yet.

    So if i was to set time lines… KH2FM comes 1st and is in the past, like a 1st encounter, then KH2 comes 2nd like a sort of reunion in some near future to the present time, then Mickeys aperance at the same place, is the present time.

12. on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:05 pm 562. Thimien
    

    Sorry if i confused anyone but.. its sort of backed up by the simple phase at the end of KH2 video… “all bigan with Birth by sleep” then Birth by sleep came out on KH2 Final mix.

13. on 27 Jun 2007 at 1:25 am 563. KH play bunny
    

    ok can i just say the key blade Riku has, is called “sole eater. sorry but it was bugging me.

14. on 27 Jun 2007 at 6:21 pm 564. kingdomhearts girl
    

    i just wanna know who the old guy is

15. on 27 Jun 2007 at 7:34 pm 565. Mamoru23
    

    the old guy is Ansem.
    you can tell by his gloves.

16. on 28 Jun 2007 at 4:59 am 566. Matek of the Artum
    

    Bunny, You mean soul eater? That was his sword that he used when he gave himself to the darkness. At the end of chain of memories, he changed the name.

    That whole Birth by sleep theory makes alot of sense.

17. on 28 Jun 2007 at 7:19 pm 567. kingdom
    

    i saw a video and in that video they say that before organistion 13 exist there was an organistion 32. and in another movie riku is being chased by a black headed man of the organisation that say to him : i don’t came here for you but for what you did. and then you see how sora was born. so i think that riku did somthing in the historie and created sora. and that historie of riku will be revealed in kh3

18. on 28 Jun 2007 at 8:36 pm 568. ansemriku
    

    ok guys, why do you all think its in the past? Micky could have just changed key chains. also, yall seem to forget, there has NEVER been evidence of mickey having a keyblade before going to the dark realm. oh, and we’ve already seen(in my oppinion) that mickey has lived for a long time, couldn’t it be possible this takes place in the future? Finnaly, just thought id throw this in there, I think the three soldiers are either children of riku, sora, and kairi, or reincarnations. considering the resemblace of their looks and name MEANINGS.

19. on 28 Jun 2007 at 9:54 pm 569. Alerith
    

    Aye, Riku’s Keyblade is now “The Road to the Dawn”.

    Some people may translate “Road” as “Path” or “Way” so it could be “The Path to the Dawn” or “The Way to the Dawn.”

    And the old guy is not Ansem. If anyone, its Xehanort now that his Heartless and Nobody have been reunited.

    Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem) was defeated first, therefore allowing Xehanort’s Nobody (Xemnas) to reunite with his Heart instead of fading into darkness.

    Which brings up my own theory:

    Xehanort, now whole again, recovers all his memories and has learned the secret of seperating his Heartless from his main body.

    Thus he was able to form that dark knight who bears striking resemblence to Riku in his heartless armor in KH1.

    The Story, in my opinion, defenitly takes place AFTER KH2, because I believe that the old man is Xehanort reborn/revived.

    And to answer a very common question:

    “Why can the bad guys use keyblades?”

    The keyblades do not go to “pure” hearts but “Qualified” hearts. So it doesn’t matter if you are good or evil, as long as your heart is qualified for the task of wielding a keyblade.

20. on 29 Jun 2007 at 7:27 am 570. Ninja-Fire-Starter Kira
    

    Ok, so yeah. I was going to read all the comments, but I stopped at like 147 and I was like whatever. I like hearing other fans theories and stuff , but there are too many

    “KH RULEZZ111!”

    And stuff, and it’s kinda annoying, although there are a lot of good reasonable theories in there too.

    All I know so far for KH3 is this, [and some of you already know it{{maybe}}]

    In KH2 FM+ Secret ending “Birth by Sleep”

    The Girl, with gray-ish blue hair is named Aqua [This us confirmed by the maker of KH]

    The Roxas look a-like is named Ven
    [Confirmed by creator]

    And the brown haired tall guy, is named Terra.
    [When I was looking around a KH site with info on KH2 FM+, it said something about him, so I think the name is also confirmed]

    The bald guy, I don’t know but many say it’s Xehanort true self, which has gone old, but I don’t think that is very likely.

    And the guy in Riku’s old suit is completely unknown to me.

    All the confirmations I found on this information were in KH FM+ Ultima book, I don’t have it, but there was some translations or little captions around when I was looking for scans, I think it’s on the front page of this website, so yeah.

    People, please put your theories and stuff, enough with the random

    “KH RULEZ”

    and

    “cake is yummy”

    Or something like that.

    And if you think that you have a pretty good reasonable theory,

    contact me at my e-mail,

    ninja_kat-chan_11@hotmail.com

    or comment my profile at myspace

    myspace.com/gaaraxhinataxmexd

    And yes.

    I am a super duper Naruto fan. ;]

    Oh and I’m not sure if I have any theories or anything. I’ll have to think for a while.

    P.S. Roxas, Sora, and Axel are the hottest. [Roxas and Sora are reasonable, but Axel is knda like WTF?! But I have a thing for WTF!? Guys =D]

    > o

21. on 29 Jun 2007 at 12:56 pm 571. Mixup
    

    It is about time I get more people for my Future theory.
    Just so you guys know… We have sussed out that Xehanorts TRUE name, beofre he was found by Ansem, was Ignis (Latin for Fire, just like Terra means Earth, Ven means Wind, and Aqua means Water)
    Ignis betrayed Terra and the others in the past (that is why Terra hates Xehanort in KH2FM+) and he has now regained his true powers and identity (thank you, Alerith for the good idea about Xehanort becoming whole again)
    I am gonna keep doing my research into this and will come back with new theories at some point…
    One more thing… does ANYONE actually know, for a fact, whether-or-not FM+ is coming to Australia?
    I gotta know! BAD!

22. on 29 Jun 2007 at 1:25 pm 572. Thimien
    

    Starting from all small events in both KH1 and 2 we come to a conclusion that Kingdom Heats is not all what it seams, every one has a story, nearly everyone has crossed roads with a keyblade wielder, meaning there is or has been more than one… and it is led to believe Sora received his keyblade to early in life, yet Nomura stated that Riku was the one who was meant to receive it and not Sora, So Sora is actually the youngest Keyblade User so far.
    But that’s another Story
    OK, we start we a letter that Sora and Co, receive from Mickey, we have no clue what it says yet, but we assume that KH is to continue on…….

    Secret Video 1- 3 armoured Warriors appear on sunset horizon “aka the crossroads” where it is full of keyblades stuck on the floor, they walk towards 3 keyblades in specific and pick the up, these blades being soras blade, Mickey blade and Rikus blade… then on the horizon a man walks toward then.
    Not even talking about all the phrases that show up on screen, we think and later we are positive that this event is on one time line.. Which we don’t know yet.
    Secret Video 2- 3 armoured Warriors are in Sunset Horizons, when a bald ban and his right hand man, ”aka man in Red and black armour” cause havoc on to these 3 knights.. and nearly killing one of them, it is known now that none of them actually died on that battle, but not sure about that yet, but another source “My good friend Tazmaniandevil” thinks the “lost 2” is related to 2 of these 3 Knights. And we believe the bald guy is Xehanort, but in a past way gone.. the tittle birth by sleep is just the name of the trailer.. And is stated on the book released in Japan, therefore giving us more of a certainty that, both secret videos are 2 completely deferent time lines……

    So now.. again from my friend Tazmaniandevil, believes that there will be a Kingdom hearts 3… but not yet.. the new series is in the making…
    “Taz says that new series is going to be a series of side adventures. The first is probably going to be about Xehanort’s past (aka Memories of Xehanort). It going to tie in to Kingdom Hearts 3, The games in the series will probably be about the other missing adventures. Mickey’s journey in the Realm of Darkness looking for the Kingdom Key: Dark Side. Riku’s time in between Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts 2. And Roxas time with the Organization.”(Heartless said all that, and I love the idea)
    Which to me seams like a sort of chain of memories to kingdom hearts 3 if you wana call it that, just to fill us in with more information about how it all started. What are the origins of the keyblade, Taz allso believes that the keyblade wars raged across all worlds that’s why all the Door were set to separate them and block the darkeness from each wold individualy. But to lock and unlock these doors, a key is needed so here we have a keyblade and keyblademaster.

    It is near safe to say that the keyblade and kingdom hearts are 2 separate forces that work together in a mysterious way, since no matter the user.,.. it simply selects the one with a strong heart, the choice to do good or evil depends on that wielder.
    The Nobodies that constitute the organisation 13 have been around for along time, and know more about the whole story, some more then others, petty they nearly all die by Sora’s hand…. Weird how Sora is meant to be the weakest wielder out of the “other” that have existed… but he kicks all theirs asses hahaha. Yet Sora only lacks one thing… he is always the one who is blissfully doing all this for one purpose only, and that is to be with his friends again.. he is the least informed character of the story, has no idea about what’s going on, except what is hpning there and now.. But I guess that is all going to change now…

    From here on Tazmanianchocobo posted all this
    This is to clarify some of the stuff Thim has said.
    The night Sora received the keyblade it was stated by Nomura that was not suppose to receive it, but that it was suppose to be Riku’s. This is also backed in the game with Jiminy’s Journal. If you were to look under Riku in it it says that Riku is the True Keyblade master. Now this is not to say that Sora would not have recieved, but merely to say that at that time he wasn’t suppose to receive it. The reason why Sora did receive it, stated by Nomura, is because at the time Riku had already given himself over to the darkness. Now youir probably asking yourself “what does this have to do with Kingdom Hearts 3 or the new series?” Let me answer that for you. In Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix+ you can battle the tallest knight Terra. Just before the battle he shares some dialog with you. “Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
    Here you learn the name of the other two knights and that Terra chose somebody for something. Now this could possibly mean that Terra chose Riku to originally to receive the Kingdom Key. My guess is that the fact that Riku was suppose to originally receive the keyblade is going to have something to do with Kingdom Hearts 3.

    It is also worthy to the Nobody Xigbar. Because from him you learn an interesting fact. Just before the Sora’s boss fight with Xigbar he says to Sora “That out of all the ones before you, you are the weakest.” Now from this dialog we learn that Xigbar has fought other Keyblade Wielders before. This to has been confirmed by Nomura. Now when using the term weakest Xigbar means that Sora is novice when using a Keyblade. We can see this when we fight Terra. But right now this is a kind of moot point. The point of this entire conversation is that we learn that A) there are other keyblade wielders and B) that Xigbar not only fought them but defeated them as well. So the question remains, who were these other keyblade wielders. Now from the secret videos we learn that there are in fact four or five other keyblade wielders. First there are the three Knights Terra, Aqua, and Ven and the Bald Guy and the Dark Knight (the reason I say four is because it is yet unknown if the Dark Knight is a separate entity or just the heartless/nobody form of the Bald Guy). Now Xigbar could be referring to one or more of these wielders. I should also note that in a scene from Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix + we see Aqua’s armor and Keyblade.

    Now this next post has to deal with the Kingdom Hearts game that will start the new series.
    Now Nomura has stated that the Kingdom Hearts game to come out will be part of a new series. In the Another reports he mentions that there are four missing adventures to the Kingdom Hearts series. Mickey’s time in the Dark Realm seeking: Kingdom Key: Dark Side, Riku’s adventures in between Chain of Memories, Roxas adventure with the Organization, and Xehanort’s Past. Now it was hinted at the next game would be about Xehanort’s past. You can come to reasonable conclusion from the Birth by Sleep video that you will probably be playing with Mickey and that this game is set in the past. Also the case of the videos comes into question here. The first video that you get at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 shows a section of an Ansem report having to deal with the keyblade. Then shows Terra standing on the dragon that Xehanort road on. He then looks around two reveal Aqua and Ven. He jumps off the dragon and the dragon disappears and they walk to Sora’s, Riku’s, and Mickey’s keyblades and they pick them up. then they look into the distance to reveal that a fourth figure is approaching. Then the words Master of Keyblades, the Lost Two, Memory of Xehanort, Chasers, and Keyblade War. Then it says “It all began with…Birth by Sleep.” Now this shows that the Birth by Sleep video happened before the first video. I believe that the first video is in fact meant to be a preview for the Kingdom Hearts 3 game. Now the second video depicts the Knights fighting a Bald Man and a Dark Knight both who wield keyblades. I believe this is meant to be a preview for the in the new series. The first game will probably revolve around Xehanort’s past (aka Memories of Xehanort) and the origins of the keyblade. You will probably playing as Mickey in this one. This will some how tie into Kingdom Hearts 3, much like Sub - Zero and Mortal Kombat 4.

    Now we were given a interesting piece text that gives a little insight in to who the Lost Two are and about who Terra is. This piece of text is “Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.” “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.” Now this is interesting because Terra expresses much hatred for Xehanort after you fight him and in the text before battle if you choose to battle him again. You can reasonably assume that Terra and Xehanort use to be allies and that Xehanort was a good guy. Now someone on here referenced Xehanort to also mean thunder in latin if you rearrange the letters in his name with out the X in it. Now I wouldn’t have used the Power Ranger to connect this, but I have come to find that there is truth in what this person said. By rearranging the letters to form the word thonare, the more common spelling of the word in tonare. Nomura has stated that Xehanort’s becomes Another and No Heart when the X is removed. The point id that we can assume that Xehanort was a good guy a one time, but for whatever reason turned his back on the light and became a bad guy. Now the connection to the Lost Two comes from the second piece of text in which it says that Terra is not awakened and that he is connected to two people. Now the only people we have seen him with are Aqua and Ven. Another interesting piece of information is that you can only fight Terra after you have beat the game. At least ever single guide I have read about the has said that. Anyways, now Aqua and Ven are not present in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix + because, are alluded two just before the fight with Terra, and we see Aqua’s armor and keyblade in the Room of Sleep. So is safe to assume that the Lost Two are Aqua and Ven.

23. on 29 Jun 2007 at 6:51 pm 573. kingdom
    

    i’m a little confused about the movie Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. Because auqa look almost the same as riku. couldn’t it be that aqua is riku? And you see a guy that get frozen by Xehanort and that guy looks accacly like roxas and as you all now roxas is a nobody. and at the end you see Xehanort creating kingdomhearts. and a nobody can become a humain if it is revealed to kingdomhearts they say in kingdomhearts 2

    So if aqua is riku would riku mybe a nobody that turned into a humain because he was revealed to kingdomhearts? and forget his memory. I think it could be posible becase there wasn’t a nobody created when riku was under control of ansem and became a nobody.

    but that leaves one question more that I can’t answer because roxas is sora’s nobody.

24. on 29 Jun 2007 at 10:17 pm 574. jessielinn
    

    ok. Thimien, how did you get all dis information???

25. on 30 Jun 2007 at 3:28 am 575. Mixup
    

    Ok, Kingdom… Aqua is a GIRL! Lol…

    And another little tidbit for my future theory…
    Thimien refers to Terra and the messages “Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.” and “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.”
    If we combine the message of “not yet awakened” and the fact that Terra’s music that plays when you fight him in FM+ (the song is called “Rage Awakened”) You get the impression that Terra is not yet awakened, or something. If he is not yet awakened, how can he be fighting in the past?
    For the most part, I am gonna stick with my theory of the trailers being future-based… but I am gonna change my tune a bit.
    Most of both of the trailers are in the future, with some small cut-outs being in the past (as there is actual evidence of it being in the past)

    Thimien… you say that it shows Mickey in the past, because he does not yet have his Kingdom Key, right? Well… The Starseeker is still a Keyblade, and Mickey never got his Keyblade until after the start of KH1. The Starseeker is made by attaching a new Chain to an existing Keyblade.
    So you see… Mickey needed to have a Keyblade BEFORE it shows him with the Starseeker.
    I have a theory for ya… maybe it shows Mickey with a Starseeker to tell us that the next game will, in fact, have you playing as Mickey and being able to give him new Keyblades in the way you can with Sora in the games we have already played.

26. on 30 Jun 2007 at 3:33 am 576. Mixup
    

    One more thing… “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two” this does not have to be talking about Aqua and Ven. It could be saying that Terra is somehow connected to Sora and Xehanort. As we all know there is some connection between Sora and Xehanort (though I have no idea what just yet)
    Nomura has said that this is more complex then we think and we need to use our imagination, right?
    So… lets start to think outside of the box. Come up with new theories that are not expected, instead of simply looking at what is in plain sight!
    We need to find the Genuine Truth Behind Truths!

27. on 30 Jun 2007 at 6:27 am 577. Matek
    

    You should know if it will come to Austraila after E3.

    Now,as for the whole he has not awakened yet thing. And he is connected to those two. Those two probably mean alot of people. Either Aqua and Ven, or Xehanort and the old man.

    The thing that everyone must remember is this. The title of the movie was “Birth by Sleep”. Just because he hasn’t awakened doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the past. Some of the stuff is in the past, true. Mickey, proabably future. I actually believe the KH2 scene is in the future. While the KH2FM+ Is in the past. The whole “It all started with birth by sleep” thing kinda say that. Because the key chains are what makes the key blade change. Think about it this way, when the Gathering takes place, They are holding two keyblades a piece. The Gathering is after they have all awakened. And, the Shadowed figure walking in the scene isn’t the old man. Its someone else. And They are talking about the new game. That might actually be the new boss. The body shapes don’t even fit.

    And Mixup. Remember this, Nomura stated that Mickey can use Keyblades from both the land of light and of Darkness. He also said that that is important. He also said that Mickey just might be the strongest person in KH. Just because he didn’t have the darkness Kingdom Key that he uses now, (which is apparently stong) doesn’t mean that he didn’t have one from the realm of light. He is mickey after all. But, at least one of the scenes is from the future.

28. on 30 Jun 2007 at 11:35 am 578. Mixup
    

    I think we have already established that the Old Man and Xehanort are the same person…
    Mostly because Terra says he hates Xehanort, and it is clear that he would hate the Old man.
    Another thing… we have figured out that Terra hates Xehanort because he betrayed them. So that means Xehanort was once one of them. And seeing as how Xehanort got his name from Ansem, Xehanort’s true name is a mystery. Until now, anyway…
    Since he was one of the knights, it is safe to say his name followed the same pattern as the others’.
    Ven is Latin for Wind.
    Aqua is Latin for Water.
    Terra is Latin for Earth.
    Therefore, I am certain that Xehanort’s TRUE name is actually Ignis (Latin for Fire)
    Someone pointed out that Xehanort without the “X” and the “H” can be rearranged to mean thunder, but Xehanort is a false name given to him by Ansem, so it does not count.

    Ignis.

29. on 30 Jun 2007 at 11:54 am 579. Mixup
    

    Another link between Xehanort and the Old Man…
    The music that plays when you fight him sitting on his throne when it is just Sora and Riku is extraordinarily similar to the music that plays while you fight Terra in FM+…
    Incidentally… does anyone know what part of the game has the “Fate of the Unknown” music playing? (a question for those who have FM+ soundtrack)
    Cause I can’t place it…

30. on 30 Jun 2007 at 5:26 pm 580. ansemriku
    

    ok, look. Nomura said this video is to confuse you, so I’m going to take a guess that ALL of our theories are wrong. However, I’m still gonna post my theory.

    The keyblade was origginally designed by Xeanort, who was trying to find out about the heart of all worlds. I say this because he would be looking for a way to unlock the keyholes, and as he is a scientist, he was able to build the key. When terra learned of his plan he quite working for xeanort, and stole the keyblade, trying to send it to riku, a entitty from xeanort,(much like xemnas and xeanorts heartless) for riku was the only good copy of xeanort. however it missed and went to Sora. Sora closed the keyholes in kingdom hearts one. To compensate for this, the old man, another entity of xeanort, hired yen sid with mind control, to have sora unlock the keyholes in kingdom hearts two. the reason why Terra fights sora is because he’s just a little angry sora fell into such an obviose trap. Xemnas meanwhile trying to build kingdom hearts, so the old man can destroy the heart of all worlds. The reason xeanorts heartless possesed riku is because if all the entities of someone recombine(like roxas and sora) then they transform into the original self. With this in mind, riku tries to go to the world that never was, so as to fuse with xemnas, however sora showed up.

31. on 30 Jun 2007 at 11:44 pm 581. Alerith
    

    Hmmmm, now that you mention it….

    You know how some games in a series put little features in one game, in order to test them for an upcoming game?

    Well, when you lost to certain bosses in KH2, Mickey would bust in to save your arse.

    What if this was just their way of testing Mickey’s ability to be controlled by the player?

    Its quite clear that “Kingdom Hearts III” is not the last.

    Kingdom Hearts: The search for Darkside (Micky’s Tale)
    Kingdom Hearts: The missing link (Riku’s Tale)
    Kingdom Hearts: Things Forgotten (Roxas’s Tale)
    Kingdom Hearts: Heart of Darkness (Xehanort’s Tale)

    Please keep in mind I just made these titles up because they sound cool. lol.

    But I think that is the layout of how it will be. A game for each story.

32. on 01 Jul 2007 at 1:04 am 582. Mixup
    

    ansemriku… I just wanna point out that Sora was not unlocking the same Keyholes has he sealed up in the first game. In KH2, he is unlocking special connections between worlds that the worlds made themselves. He is not unlocking the Heart of each world, just a door to the next one.
    I am sorry to say that I disagree with you entirely. There is no real link between Riku and Xehanort (apart from when Xehanort’s Heartless possessed Riku)
    I think there is merit in your theory of the Keyblades being originally made by Xehanort, but the way I see it, they were made by Xehanort AND the Three Knights in the past. Xehanort, however, betrayed the Knights for his own selfish ends.

    And, Alerith… A nice idea, and I do agree with you for the most part… and I just wanna help explain the games more specifically…
    also, Riku does not really have much of a story (he is in KH1, then CoM, then he wanders around, then joins Ansem, then becomes Xehanort, and the rest is explained in KH2) so I will just kind of erase him from the list of games.

    First of all… Mickeys story will start in the same manner as KH1. Mickey will get his Kingdom Key right at the start of the game, and the rest of the game revolves around his adventures in the Realm of Darkness, Right up until the point where he helps Sora seal the Door in the end of KH1. I think that maybe he will be on the other side of every Keyhole helping Sora while he was locking the Worlds’ Hearts in the first game. Think of Mickey’s game as an inverse copy of KH1.
    Second game will be Roxas’s story, that will start from the very moment that Sora became a Heartless. You will play as Roxas in Twilight Town, and that area of the game will be JUST like the Destiny Islands in KH1. Right up until Roxas is found. Then the game will revolve around how Roxas was using HIS Keyblades to kill Heartless to make Kingdom Hearts, just like Sora does later. This game will help explain Roxas, but will probably be used more to explain Xehanort and the other members of Organisation XIII, and the game will go right up to the part where Roxas was captured by Riku… Riku being the last boss in the game, and then Roxas is captured in a cinematic of Riku becoming Xehanort.
    And the last game will be used to explain EVERYTHING about Xehanort, but most likely, the main character will be Terra. It will be based in the past, before any of the other games, where Xehanort betrays the Knights and Terra will be the only surviver… then the game will actually have kind of a time-skip after Xehanort is defeated, where the game will jump forward in time while Terra is “asleep” up until he is awakened by Sora in KH2FM+. After that, Terra learns that Xehanort survived and then the game continues with Terra going after Xehanort, who has somehow managed to become whole again after he was defeated by Sora. That is explained by the “Birth by Sleep” and “Not yet awakened” messages we keep bringing up.
    Right at the end of the game, a whole reunion thing will happen, where Xehanort will gain immeasurable powers and can only be defeated by all of the main characters in each of the games.
    You will control Sora for the first part of the battle, then you will control Riku, then the King, then (somehow) Roxas, then Terra. And then some big fancy thing happens involving Sora again, maybe with him realizing his true power and then it is just him and Xehanort in the end.
    I am just guessing ALL of this, but it makes sense… and it sounds freaking awesome!

33. on 01 Jul 2007 at 1:47 pm 583. ansemriku
    

    mixup, I do understand what your saying but I think you slightly disunderstand me. Yen Sid only told them that it unlocked gates, but it still seems suspiciose, why wouldn’t the walls just break so sora can get through? also, as far as we know there is no connection with riku and xeanort, might I point out that besides sephiroth, everyone in kingdom hearts with silver hair is somehow related to xeanort.

    and to add to my theory, Riku covered his eyes not out of fear, but to hide the fact during the fight with roxas that xemnas and riku have the same eyes.

    finnaly, I only came up with that off the top of my head,not through research(though I had just beaten the series after a three day straight play.) oh, and just wanted to know, is it confirmed that kh2fm+ and khcmre will be released in americs this fall?

34. on 02 Jul 2007 at 12:26 am 584. Mixup
    

    The walls wouldn’t just break to allow Sora through, as only the Keybearer was the one supposed to travel to other worlds… the fact that he had to unlock the paths was because that was the worlds defense mechanism. To make sure that only a Keyblade master could get through.
    And, there is no real connection with Xehanort and the others just by hair colour. Take Setzer, for example. And Saix had no REAL connection to Xehanort, besides the fact that they worked together. Because Xehanort and Saix never even new each other until Ansem found Xehanort on his doorstep.

    And again, I am pretty sure you are wrong about Riku’s eyes… First of all, he has not got the same eyes as Xehanort (his eyes are blue-green, Xehanort’s are yellow)
    In the game, when Riku uncovers his eyes, Mickey said he covered them because his eyes couldn’t lie and when Sora asks who Riku was trying to lie to, Riku said “Myself”

    And yes… KH2FM+ and RE:CoM are going to be released in the US.
    I JUST WANNA KNOW IF AND WHEN THEY COME TO AUSTRALIA!

35. on 02 Jul 2007 at 7:26 am 585. Anonymous
    

    Anybody here?

36. on 02 Jul 2007 at 1:34 pm 586. ansemriku
    

    ya, i figured i was wrong with the eyes, and silver hair is a longshot, but I have a new theory, this time about the new enemy.

    I got my research through guessing after reviewing kingdom hearts two’s versoin of sephiroth. When someone with a strong heart of both darkness and light exist, eventually an other is created. Note that the original has not died, the other just appears. This other takes the embodiemt of darkness from the orignial, looking nothing like their former selves.

    If you notice this was basically their definition of sephiroth from kh2, which of course isn’t correct.

37. on 02 Jul 2007 at 1:47 pm 587. ansemriku
    

    oh, forgot in my last post, as for the walls, agreed they wouldn’t break, but take this into consideration. The reason why we traveled freely in kh1 was because all the keyholes were open, thus breaking the walls between worlds. Now say that after kh1 the worlds got smart and selcted the keyholes to be in specified atoms. Only the keyblade could activate these keyholes, correct. Once a keyhole is unlocked for that world the walls would break, thus opening the new path to another world.

38. on 02 Jul 2007 at 1:57 pm 588. Thimien
    

    and if i told you guys, Xehanort was a good man?? and thats its probably not his fault he turned evil, we only know Xehanort from the point that he lost his memories… we have no clue who he was before then… i dont think he made any keyblades, and dont think the knights made keyblades eather… keyblades are not made, they are just give to people with strong hearts, good or Evil.

    See obviasly its a theory, but reallt and Honestly, a nobody like Xemnas, look at the things he says, and may i recall, he is the only one that has Xehanorts memories, but not his heart. Xemnas doesnt look or sound to evil to me. Even Sora trys to remind him what it was like to have a heart right at the end, but he does not remember.. Xemnas whats his heart back not to meantion his memories.. I think theres alot of suprises coming up, and things are not what they seam… The truth will come out soon enough.

39. on 02 Jul 2007 at 6:48 pm 589. flarer39
    

    wow u all type essays.

40. on 03 Jul 2007 at 12:03 am 590. leonheart
    

    people stop making up theories because you are just going to cause massive brain damage

41. on 03 Jul 2007 at 12:04 am 591. ansemriku
    

    agreed

42. on 03 Jul 2007 at 12:51 am 592. ansemriku
    

    Okay, I’ve been looking through the comments( though i just really had to look at what people said in response to me) and i have a request. Its needed to fix obvious problems with theories but actually read the theory a few times, don’t just spout out what you think. also, don’t be so rude, you don’t know the age groups on here so you could make some younger kid go crying to mommy. There is one person in particular I’m speaking to but i won’t say who.

43. on 03 Jul 2007 at 12:53 am 593. KH play bunny
    

    The brain damaged hear, um… so ya I’m lost, I read all the comments But now there all mushy & blindy like. can I get a short refresher corse? ^_^ All so can we pick a diffrent topic then Aqua, ven ect are form the past or like the whole “that guy looks like Riku” thing please? ^_^

44. on 03 Jul 2007 at 1:59 pm 594. ansemriku
    

    ok, this has to do with xeanorts memory. If you go to twilight town, down in the basement where donald and goofys pods are, examine the pod closest to the entrance. it says there’s evidence this was used before, hmm. Now if its used to monitor and make it easier to restore memories, couldn’t it help in taking them away. I believe these pods are our culprit.

45. on 03 Jul 2007 at 2:18 pm 595. kairilover
    

    anyone else notice that kairi is freaking hot in kh2?

46. on 03 Jul 2007 at 2:26 pm 596. Thimien
    

    Xehanort’s age is like something you cant assume… plus he lost his memories.. so even he does not know how old he is..

    honestly the only caracters youl see growing up in this game, will be Sora, Riku and Kairy, the rest will allways stay the same…

    If anything Xehanort was a adult when he was found.. and if he did something bad he lost his memoreis for that reason.

    Let me just say a lil theory i had… nothing special…

    If i had to gess, id say Xehanort was a Nobody when he was found.. not to mention hes name has an X, and name spells “no Heart” and something tells me he was born in similar way Roxas was born. Roxas had no memorie of Sora, Same way Xehanort has no memorie of hes say default self..

    Some how during recheach with Ansem the Wise, he found a way to use the hearts darkness.. to creat his own artificial heart.. and there again plunge into darkness believing somehow would bring back his lost memories.. and creating “Ansem”, and “Xemnas”…. Now Ansem to me represents Xehanorts default self.. or maybe halth of him, because i think Xehanort’s original Self was a good man.. and when he turned into darkess the 1st time round, the Xehanort we know, with no memories was still a good man, so His orginal decided to eraze his nobody from existance, so he would never become a threat in future.. But Xehanort did not die.. and was saved by Ansem the Wise. Xehanort is all better now, with no memories of why he nearly died… or what hpn to him, wouldnt that make you go seaching for the truth.. he doesnt even know hes a nobody..

    Note: all Nobodies have all the memories from their original selfs, but no hearts. Only one who does not have memories is Roxas. But there has beena rumor concedering Roxas to have a heart… Obviasly Roxas aint just a nobody now.. specialy after seeing that secret video with Ventus on it,.. who looks just like Roxas… we know theres a connection, but what could it be..?

    Xehanort… was just searching for everything he forgot.. just like Xemnas was still doing in KH2.. Look at Xemnas, does it really look like he is all bad…?? he even takes Roxas in the organisation knowing that he was Soras nobody…. and its not only Because he could use a keyblade,.. something tells me he was thinking Roxas had a connection with his past, he treats him will.. he even tells Roxas about going to see Sora right at the start of KH2 on the beach.. Roxas and Sora are Unick and Xemnas knows that.

    Another Note: its said a few times in the game, that there was only another person who got his heart back after turning into a heartless.. one more person besides Sora.. Sora Turned, and came back and got his heart back.. yet his nobody Still lives…

    My point is… what makes you guys think… assuming Xehanort is a nobody,.. what makes you think this didnt hpn to Xehanorts original self?? and thar he still lives now in Soras Present… he Went into darkess, betrayed all his friends.. “Terra”, created a nobody “Xehanort” and lives just like “Sora”

    To add to this theory… I think Xehanorts original self, is alive in the present game we play with Sora just watching as everything unfolds… in the secret video we see a bald man, with an armored man… who does that remind you of… ??? Kh1 we only see Ansem right like 90% into the game.. and he controls Riku. who has a similar armor to this armored caracter in the secret video.. Does it not look History repeats itself.. ? But something hpn back then.. i think that bald man was stoped some how.. and since then, everything Else was Xehanorts doing.. So Sora becomes the Keyblade master..

    I think that Xehanorts original self was just in the dark waiting to see if Ansem could pull it off….
    And the hole of KH2, has a completly deferent meaning, to the main Darkness story.. who says Nobodys have to be bad anyways??? do you get my point?

    Now this can possably be the past.. and it probably is.. just for the reason theres alot we dont know yet.. and need to discover.. Sora is Still the must blissfull Hero in KH.. he never knows anything… Thats why he keeps going.. he does it all for his friends, making him a pure hearted Hero. Thats why this next game is sort of like a “Chain of memories” to KH3.

    OK hope you guys like it.

47. on 03 Jul 2007 at 2:27 pm 597. Thimien
    

    Sorry about that.. but in order to b able to xplain the points, and back them up.. i do type a bible lol cause must of the things i post they are not just theorys, they are backed up by analising both KH1 and 2… so when i start xplaining my point i type so much, or il lose the thing i was thinking about lol

48. on 03 Jul 2007 at 2:32 pm 598. Thimien
    

    and to reply to everyone who asks where i get this info, its everywhere.. obviasly you can tell the facts from teh theorys, i just try back them up, i dont post stuff just by posting lol

    See When final Mix 2 came out in japan with the anotehr report book, it has so many hints and info… and thats where i get everything, by playing the games and analysing the reports plus, all the lil meanings and phases that are everywhere in the games. Even caracter discreptions.. i know its hard to trust posts sometimes, but the 2 big posts i posted here, they are all both backed up. Post 572 and 596 are fruit of research of 2 people. Me and tazmanianchocobo.. his usualy in kh2 and kh3 side of this site.

49. on 03 Jul 2007 at 4:01 pm 599. ansemriku
    

    I think your on the spot right there. and you mentioned something I’d like to point out, please post evidence, otherwise we won’t believe you.

    now for a new theory of mine about the realm of darkness.

    “If the world is made of light and darkness, we’ll be the darkness”
    - Riku Kingdom hearts 2

    Okay, that line is important, same with the location when he said it. Have you noticed that world at the end of kh2(deep dive as its known to be called)see how it looks like the realm of darkness at the end of kingdom hearts 1? I believe that every world has a light, twilight, and dark version in and of itself. At the end of KH1 the door to darkness leaded to end of the world’s dark version, not kingdom hearts. In the end of kh2 the final confrontation(the final fight with xemnas) takes place in the world that never was’ twilight world. and after the final confrontation, where sora and riku are at deep dive, thats Destiny Island’s dark realm. However, Twilight Town is unique in that its the only(as far as we know) world that has one realm, the twilight realm(forgive the pun). I’m sorry to say I dont see the significance of that yet but i’ll post if something comes to mind.

    oh, and for those of you mad that you don’t play as sora in the new series, if you recall unknown( the no voice actor voice thing from kh1) told sora he’d open the door to the light, so his quest ended at the end of kh2. personally, I never liked sora anyway.

50. on 03 Jul 2007 at 5:57 pm 600. darkkeeper
    

    we know terra hates xeharanort tell me if im wrong but i think xeharanort is the guy in the black and red suit (old mans friend) because terra, ven and aqua did not move in till they saw the red man

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