Ok, so yeah. I was going to read all the comments, but I stopped at like 147 and I was like whatever. I like hearing other fans theories and stuff , but there are too many
“KH RULEZZ111!”
And stuff, and it’s kinda annoying, although there are a lot of good reasonable theories in there too.
All I know so far for KH3 is this, [and some of you already know it{{maybe}}]
In KH2 FM+ Secret ending “Birth by Sleep”
The Girl, with gray-ish blue hair is named Aqua [This us confirmed by the maker of KH]
The Roxas look a-like is named Ven
[Confirmed by creator]
And the brown haired tall guy, is named Terra.
[When I was looking around a KH site with info on KH2 FM+, it said something about him, so I think the name is also confirmed]
The bald guy, I don’t know but many say it’s Xehanort true self, which has gone old, but I don’t think that is very likely.
And the guy in Riku’s old suit is completely unknown to me.
All the confirmations I found on this information were in KH FM+ Ultima book, I don’t have it, but there was some translations or little captions around when I was looking for scans, I think it’s on the front page of this website, so yeah.
People, please put your theories and stuff, enough with the random
“KH RULEZ”
and
“cake is yummy”
Or something like that.
And if you think that you have a pretty good reasonable theory,
Oh and I’m not sure if I have any theories or anything. I’ll have to think for a while.
P.S. Roxas, Sora, and Axel are the hottest. [Roxas and Sora are reasonable, but Axel is knda like WTF?! But I have a thing for WTF!? Guys =D]
> o
on 28 Jun 2007 at 9:54 pm 569. Alerith
Aye, Riku’s Keyblade is now “The Road to the Dawn”.
Some people may translate “Road” as “Path” or “Way” so it could be “The Path to the Dawn” or “The Way to the Dawn.”
And the old guy is not Ansem. If anyone, its Xehanort now that his Heartless and Nobody have been reunited.
Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem) was defeated first, therefore allowing Xehanort’s Nobody (Xemnas) to reunite with his Heart instead of fading into darkness.
Which brings up my own theory:
Xehanort, now whole again, recovers all his memories and has learned the secret of seperating his Heartless from his main body.
Thus he was able to form that dark knight who bears striking resemblence to Riku in his heartless armor in KH1.
The Story, in my opinion, defenitly takes place AFTER KH2, because I believe that the old man is Xehanort reborn/revived.
And to answer a very common question:
“Why can the bad guys use keyblades?”
The keyblades do not go to “pure” hearts but “Qualified” hearts. So it doesn’t matter if you are good or evil, as long as your heart is qualified for the task of wielding a keyblade.
on 28 Jun 2007 at 8:36 pm 568. ansemriku
ok guys, why do you all think its in the past? Micky could have just changed key chains. also, yall seem to forget, there has NEVER been evidence of mickey having a keyblade before going to the dark realm. oh, and we’ve already seen(in my oppinion) that mickey has lived for a long time, couldn’t it be possible this takes place in the future? Finnaly, just thought id throw this in there, I think the three soldiers are either children of riku, sora, and kairi, or reincarnations. considering the resemblace of their looks and name MEANINGS.
on 28 Jun 2007 at 7:19 pm 567. kingdom
i saw a video and in that video they say that before organistion 13 exist there was an organistion 32. and in another movie riku is being chased by a black headed man of the organisation that say to him : i don’t came here for you but for what you did. and then you see how sora was born. so i think that riku did somthing in the historie and created sora. and that historie of riku will be revealed in kh3
Bunny, You mean soul eater? That was his sword that he used when he gave himself to the darkness. At the end of chain of memories, he changed the name.
That whole Birth by sleep theory makes alot of sense.
on 27 Jun 2007 at 7:34 pm 565. Mamoru23
the old guy is Ansem.
you can tell by his gloves.
on 27 Jun 2007 at 6:21 pm 564. kingdomhearts girl
i just wanna know who the old guy is
on 27 Jun 2007 at 1:25 am 563. KH play bunny
ok can i just say the key blade Riku has, is called “sole eater. sorry but it was bugging me.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:05 pm 562. Thimien
Sorry if i confused anyone but.. its sort of backed up by the simple phase at the end of KH2 video… “all bigan with Birth by sleep” then Birth by sleep came out on KH2 Final mix.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:04 pm 561. Thimien
the 3rd keyblade taht you speak of is, Rikus, “Way to Dawn” and the other 2 are Soras and Mickeys Keyblades.
The only reason why i could possably say its the future.. is because to me Mickey arives at the paces years after that batle and that reunion hpns, as far as i remember, the keyblade taht a caracters receives is like say the default right… the reason why you can get deferent keyblades, is because you connect keychains, and not change keyblades.. so on that last scene Mickey oredy has his dark Keyblade.. he is just using a deferent keychain… probably to let us know he and Yen Cid are still at work who knows.??
apart from that the rest of the 2 videos, are oredy in deferent time lines, KH2 and KH2fm, are 2 deferent videos.. they are not conected one after the other, and the why, is because the FM one, is meant to be the 1st time, and the KH2 one is 2nd in time. “It all began with Birth by Sleep” thats the name of the FM video, so therefore thats the 1st in time.
Besides that. on FM video.. Sora and co keyblades are not in their hands anymore… maybe they dont even exist yet.
So if i was to set time lines… KH2FM comes 1st and is in the past, like a 1st encounter, then KH2 comes 2nd like a sort of reunion in some near future to the present time, then Mickeys aperance at the same place, is the present time.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 1:44 pm 560. Kahou
Well, at least it sounds like it makes sence XD Right?
on 26 Jun 2007 at 12:53 pm 559. Mixup
Finally!
Someone who agrees with me!
on 25 Jun 2007 at 3:32 pm 558. Kahou
Ok, this is my first post here and I wanted to bring up some evidence for the “For the future” idea.
It seems everyone is pretty much settled on it being in the past because of mickeys key.
But the secret ending from KH2 and KH2FM+ is actually two parts of one movie.
In the KH2 secret ending they walk to the center of a graveyard of keyblades where they pick up three keys.
Kingdom key (Sora’s default keyblade in prerendered movies)
The inverse Kindom key (Mickeys keyblade the formal I know not of)
And an unidentified keyblade as far as my knowledge go’s.
The argument for for the past is mickey is weilding the Star seeker and not the Keyblade he got from the realm of darkness. Which would suggest that his keyblade doesn’t even exsist, and yet there it is next to the kindom key.
Also, an speculation as to why those three keyblades are seperate, what’s there signifigance.
Why do Ven aqua and Terra pick them up?
Idea’s?
(Very first anything on KH3.net ^_^)
on 25 Jun 2007 at 6:28 am 557. Mixup
WHAT THE HELL?!?!
I AM TRYING TO POST A COMMENT, AND IT IS NOT SHOWING UP!
WTF IS GOING ON?!?!
on 25 Jun 2007 at 2:32 am 556. valor
we know its in the past coz mickey has star seeker keyblade. its set wen mickeys training with yen sid.
on 25 Jun 2007 at 1:58 am 555. musicfrk12
Mixup, let me just ask you this… How do you know that is Xehanort in the trailer? It could be Sora (I know I know, it’s not and I’m crazy for saying it, but we don’t know now do we?)
HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IT IS SET IN THE PAST??? For all we know it could be a centry into the future…
Oh, one last little think. In one of the interveiws, Nomura said that the trailer was ment to confuse you even more and make it harder to figure. Keep that in mind.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:48 pm 554. Dan the Fan
OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
dats all ive gotta say.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:47 pm 553. Dan the Fan
OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! it mite’iv happind wile Namine was restorin Sora’s memerees, or sumwher els not 2 lon ago.also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
dats all ive gotta say.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:27 pm 552. Khmegafan
yea thats true I aree with the comment before me…becuz i think mickey was training which wud explain y he had the old traiining keyblade…
no, it was set in the past cause mickey didnt have the key of darkness from the dark realm in the video yet, Matek of the Artum. so this story could be taking place in mickeys adventure in the realm of darkness, thats my guess. the first secret ending is probably for the new series.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:16 pm 550. Khmegafan
well…i think riku used to do but….now he doesnt have much interest in her now i guess
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:14 pm 549. jessielinn
ok I have a random question and a totally off the subject thought… but does riku still like Kiri??? Or does he just think of her as a friend now?
What makes you think tha the old guy in the trailer is Xehanort? Because they dress alike? Not a good reason.But, if you think about it. Xehanort likes to mimick those who he admires, he could admire the old man. He admired Ansem and he took his name. HOw can it be an old Xehanort if he died already? When he was young. You think about it mixup. Nomura said himself that the trailer is from the past. Yet also part from the future. Mickeyu’s part is from the future.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 8:21 am 546. Mixup
Xehanort IS the old guy in the trailer.
The old guy (real name is likely Ignis) is the one responsible for the downfall of the Chasers (has not even been confirmed if the Three ARE Chasers) and in KH2FM+ has Terra telling you about how he hates Xehanort.
On top of it all… Ignis summons that Shadow Knight in the same manner that Xehanort’s Heartless summons the Shadow in the final battle in KH1. Another link is the Shadow Knight summoned by Ignis is almost exactly the same as the apperance that Riku takes when he is possessed by Xehanort’s Heartless.
Again, I have to disagree with you about this being in the past. Given what I keep saying, and also what you guys are saying about this being in the past, AND the fact Nomura said this can be considered as being in the past AND future… I have a new theory.
This trailer really is in the future, however, all this has actually before… think of it as KW II (Keyblade War Two)
The Old guy we see in this is Xehanort, or perhaps even going back to my old theory of a Third Element, (another type of Heartless/Nobody creature) once again causing trouble as he has in the past 3 games, and once even before that.
Once again, though… I have to say this.
Even though the Starseeker is not the Keyblade we see Mickey using in the game, it IS still a Keyblade. And Mickey never got his Keyblade till after the start of KH1. This just CAN’T be in the past. Almost everything we see in the trailer is proven to be after the start of the first game.
And, yet again… a simple solution…
Xehanort in games = young
Xehanort in trailer = old
Do the math, guys.
It is obvious that the trailer is from the past, well, most of it anyway. Here’s my theory.
There were four chasers. xehanort, terra, ven, and Aqua. They fought in the Keyblade war of legend, or they came around after the war. Doesn’t matter. Not for the theory anyway. Okay, the old man, corrupted xehanort, or xehanort defected. BUt the moral is that xehanort was possessed like Riku. Hence, the armor, and Xehanort wearing the same clothes as the old man. Now anyway, he works for the old man. The old man may have been one of the enemies during the keyblade wars. Maybe like a main one.
Anyway, the man was wicked strong. And, as we know, Xehanort liked power. he was attracted to it. So, he and the old man became the lost ones. Whatever they did, they all had to meet at “The Gathering”. To finish it all. Then, as you see, they met, fought, lost and Ven was frozen. Not sure if he is dead, his eyes were moving slightly, and his keyblade broke on the rocks(The only time a keyblade with chain has broken) But, its highly likely. Aqua may have died in the fight, because Xenmas is seen talking to her empty armor, but I hope not. Terra is still alive and well(as well as can be said for a loser). And all that Terra has left is his hatred of the one who started the downfall.
Now, as for Mickey having the Starseeker, that means two things. One, that the starseeker once belonged to mickey. And two, that this is set before KH2 and probably KH1. Remember, just because it wasn’t shown, doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. And, mickey wasn’t there for the Keyblade War, he was there just shortly after that. You can tell because the shift in the scene. And the fact that Kingdom Hearts is in the sky. Also, that is where Xemnas got the idea for putting the kingdom hearts moon. He probably knows the chasers.
The only keyblades that have keychains are Mickey’s , the Chasers’, Xehanort’s, and the old man’s. Meaning, that they are probably the only true Keyblades. Seeing as the man could control the other ones like they were nothing. Maybe those are all copies used in the Keyblade War. Remember whenever someone goes to get to Kingdom Hearts, they have that glow on their hand. Think about it.
Now, abbout the knights. Think about it this way.
The names is a dead give away. Sora Kairi Riku. Van Aqua Terra, respectivly. Not decendants, but they are like parallels. Think about it this way. Van/Sora tries to be like Riku/Terra (terra stopped him from chasing after mage) While kairi/Aqua looks on and provide power. I’ll have to write more about this later. Tomorrow.
on 22 Jun 2007 at 12:48 am 544. Mixup
Sorry Roar… just go over the last page before this one. The page where I spend AGES trying to convince people that it is in the future.
on 22 Jun 2007 at 12:45 am 543. Mixup
Shorty has it right.
Xehanort was given his name by Ansem, (rearrange Ansem’s name… you get “Names”, cool huh?) Ignis is Xehanort’s true name. And I also agree with Roar.
If you haven’t already, Roar, go over all the comments in the last 2 pages.
However, looking at EVERYTHING about Xehanort and Terra, and the 2 trailers… this really seems to be both in the past AND future… wait… didn’t Nomura say that in one of his interviews?
on 21 Jun 2007 at 8:10 pm 542. Roar says the cookie
I don’t think that its in the past because Nickey didn’t get his keyblade until he was trapped in the realm of darkness right? And if Ansem gave Xehanort his name and all, then how does the knight know to call him by that if he knew Xehanort when he went by another name?
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on 29 Jun 2007 at 7:27 am 570. Ninja-Fire-Starter Kira
Ok, so yeah. I was going to read all the comments, but I stopped at like 147 and I was like whatever. I like hearing other fans theories and stuff , but there are too many
“KH RULEZZ111!”
And stuff, and it’s kinda annoying, although there are a lot of good reasonable theories in there too.
All I know so far for KH3 is this, [and some of you already know it{{maybe}}]
In KH2 FM+ Secret ending “Birth by Sleep”
The Girl, with gray-ish blue hair is named Aqua [This us confirmed by the maker of KH]
The Roxas look a-like is named Ven
[Confirmed by creator]
And the brown haired tall guy, is named Terra.
[When I was looking around a KH site with info on KH2 FM+, it said something about him, so I think the name is also confirmed]
The bald guy, I don’t know but many say it’s Xehanort true self, which has gone old, but I don’t think that is very likely.
And the guy in Riku’s old suit is completely unknown to me.
All the confirmations I found on this information were in KH FM+ Ultima book, I don’t have it, but there was some translations or little captions around when I was looking for scans, I think it’s on the front page of this website, so yeah.
People, please put your theories and stuff, enough with the random
“KH RULEZ”
and
“cake is yummy”
Or something like that.
And if you think that you have a pretty good reasonable theory,
contact me at my e-mail,
ninja_kat-chan_11@hotmail.com
or comment my profile at myspace
myspace.com/gaaraxhinataxmexd
And yes.
I am a super duper Naruto fan. ;]
Oh and I’m not sure if I have any theories or anything. I’ll have to think for a while.
P.S. Roxas, Sora, and Axel are the hottest. [Roxas and Sora are reasonable, but Axel is knda like WTF?! But I have a thing for WTF!? Guys =D]
> o
on 28 Jun 2007 at 9:54 pm 569. Alerith
Aye, Riku’s Keyblade is now “The Road to the Dawn”.
Some people may translate “Road” as “Path” or “Way” so it could be “The Path to the Dawn” or “The Way to the Dawn.”
And the old guy is not Ansem. If anyone, its Xehanort now that his Heartless and Nobody have been reunited.
Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem) was defeated first, therefore allowing Xehanort’s Nobody (Xemnas) to reunite with his Heart instead of fading into darkness.
Which brings up my own theory:
Xehanort, now whole again, recovers all his memories and has learned the secret of seperating his Heartless from his main body.
Thus he was able to form that dark knight who bears striking resemblence to Riku in his heartless armor in KH1.
The Story, in my opinion, defenitly takes place AFTER KH2, because I believe that the old man is Xehanort reborn/revived.
And to answer a very common question:
“Why can the bad guys use keyblades?”
The keyblades do not go to “pure” hearts but “Qualified” hearts. So it doesn’t matter if you are good or evil, as long as your heart is qualified for the task of wielding a keyblade.
on 28 Jun 2007 at 8:36 pm 568. ansemriku
ok guys, why do you all think its in the past? Micky could have just changed key chains. also, yall seem to forget, there has NEVER been evidence of mickey having a keyblade before going to the dark realm. oh, and we’ve already seen(in my oppinion) that mickey has lived for a long time, couldn’t it be possible this takes place in the future? Finnaly, just thought id throw this in there, I think the three soldiers are either children of riku, sora, and kairi, or reincarnations. considering the resemblace of their looks and name MEANINGS.
on 28 Jun 2007 at 7:19 pm 567. kingdom
i saw a video and in that video they say that before organistion 13 exist there was an organistion 32. and in another movie riku is being chased by a black headed man of the organisation that say to him : i don’t came here for you but for what you did. and then you see how sora was born. so i think that riku did somthing in the historie and created sora. and that historie of riku will be revealed in kh3
on 28 Jun 2007 at 4:59 am 566. Matek of the Artum
Bunny, You mean soul eater? That was his sword that he used when he gave himself to the darkness. At the end of chain of memories, he changed the name.
That whole Birth by sleep theory makes alot of sense.
on 27 Jun 2007 at 7:34 pm 565. Mamoru23
the old guy is Ansem.
you can tell by his gloves.
on 27 Jun 2007 at 6:21 pm 564. kingdomhearts girl
i just wanna know who the old guy is
on 27 Jun 2007 at 1:25 am 563. KH play bunny
ok can i just say the key blade Riku has, is called “sole eater. sorry but it was bugging me.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:05 pm 562. Thimien
Sorry if i confused anyone but.. its sort of backed up by the simple phase at the end of KH2 video… “all bigan with Birth by sleep” then Birth by sleep came out on KH2 Final mix.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 2:04 pm 561. Thimien
the 3rd keyblade taht you speak of is, Rikus, “Way to Dawn” and the other 2 are Soras and Mickeys Keyblades.
The only reason why i could possably say its the future.. is because to me Mickey arives at the paces years after that batle and that reunion hpns, as far as i remember, the keyblade taht a caracters receives is like say the default right… the reason why you can get deferent keyblades, is because you connect keychains, and not change keyblades.. so on that last scene Mickey oredy has his dark Keyblade.. he is just using a deferent keychain… probably to let us know he and Yen Cid are still at work who knows.??
apart from that the rest of the 2 videos, are oredy in deferent time lines, KH2 and KH2fm, are 2 deferent videos.. they are not conected one after the other, and the why, is because the FM one, is meant to be the 1st time, and the KH2 one is 2nd in time. “It all began with Birth by Sleep” thats the name of the FM video, so therefore thats the 1st in time.
Besides that. on FM video.. Sora and co keyblades are not in their hands anymore… maybe they dont even exist yet.
So if i was to set time lines… KH2FM comes 1st and is in the past, like a 1st encounter, then KH2 comes 2nd like a sort of reunion in some near future to the present time, then Mickeys aperance at the same place, is the present time.
on 26 Jun 2007 at 1:44 pm 560. Kahou
Well, at least it sounds like it makes sence XD Right?
on 26 Jun 2007 at 12:53 pm 559. Mixup
Finally!
Someone who agrees with me!
on 25 Jun 2007 at 3:32 pm 558. Kahou
Ok, this is my first post here and I wanted to bring up some evidence for the “For the future” idea.
It seems everyone is pretty much settled on it being in the past because of mickeys key.
But the secret ending from KH2 and KH2FM+ is actually two parts of one movie.
In the KH2 secret ending they walk to the center of a graveyard of keyblades where they pick up three keys.
Kingdom key (Sora’s default keyblade in prerendered movies)
The inverse Kindom key (Mickeys keyblade the formal I know not of)
And an unidentified keyblade as far as my knowledge go’s.
The argument for for the past is mickey is weilding the Star seeker and not the Keyblade he got from the realm of darkness. Which would suggest that his keyblade doesn’t even exsist, and yet there it is next to the kindom key.
Also, an speculation as to why those three keyblades are seperate, what’s there signifigance.
Why do Ven aqua and Terra pick them up?
Idea’s?
(Very first anything on KH3.net ^_^)
on 25 Jun 2007 at 6:28 am 557. Mixup
WHAT THE HELL?!?!
I AM TRYING TO POST A COMMENT, AND IT IS NOT SHOWING UP!
WTF IS GOING ON?!?!
on 25 Jun 2007 at 2:32 am 556. valor
we know its in the past coz mickey has star seeker keyblade. its set wen mickeys training with yen sid.
on 25 Jun 2007 at 1:58 am 555. musicfrk12
Mixup, let me just ask you this… How do you know that is Xehanort in the trailer? It could be Sora (I know I know, it’s not and I’m crazy for saying it, but we don’t know now do we?)
HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IT IS SET IN THE PAST??? For all we know it could be a centry into the future…
Oh, one last little think. In one of the interveiws, Nomura said that the trailer was ment to confuse you even more and make it harder to figure. Keep that in mind.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:48 pm 554. Dan the Fan
OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
dats all ive gotta say.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 9:47 pm 553. Dan the Fan
OK guys, y is it dat u all tink jus cuz it MIGHT b in da past does NOT meen its like 20 yrs ago! it mite’iv happind wile Namine was restorin Sora’s memerees, or sumwher els not 2 lon ago.also, i agree dat reely mite not even BE Xehanort, considrin dat A:Nomura said dat all new ppl hav NEVR bin seen bfor, & B:we actualy DID see Xehanort in KH2 win Mickey sudinly rememberd dat 1 ting, so yeah.
dats all ive gotta say.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:27 pm 552. Khmegafan
yea thats true I aree with the comment before me…becuz i think mickey was training which wud explain y he had the old traiining keyblade…
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:24 pm 551. Vennos(mKh)
no, it was set in the past cause mickey didnt have the key of darkness from the dark realm in the video yet, Matek of the Artum. so this story could be taking place in mickeys adventure in the realm of darkness, thats my guess. the first secret ending is probably for the new series.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:16 pm 550. Khmegafan
well…i think riku used to do but….now he doesnt have much interest in her now i guess
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:14 pm 549. jessielinn
ok I have a random question and a totally off the subject thought… but does riku still like Kiri??? Or does he just think of her as a friend now?
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:02 pm 548. Matek of the Artum
ON the note about Riku, how can you be sure that when ever someone is possessed by s spirirt they don’t don that clothing?
on 24 Jun 2007 at 6:00 pm 547. Matek of the Artum
What makes you think tha the old guy in the trailer is Xehanort? Because they dress alike? Not a good reason.But, if you think about it. Xehanort likes to mimick those who he admires, he could admire the old man. He admired Ansem and he took his name. HOw can it be an old Xehanort if he died already? When he was young. You think about it mixup. Nomura said himself that the trailer is from the past. Yet also part from the future. Mickeyu’s part is from the future.
on 24 Jun 2007 at 8:21 am 546. Mixup
Xehanort IS the old guy in the trailer.
The old guy (real name is likely Ignis) is the one responsible for the downfall of the Chasers (has not even been confirmed if the Three ARE Chasers) and in KH2FM+ has Terra telling you about how he hates Xehanort.
On top of it all… Ignis summons that Shadow Knight in the same manner that Xehanort’s Heartless summons the Shadow in the final battle in KH1. Another link is the Shadow Knight summoned by Ignis is almost exactly the same as the apperance that Riku takes when he is possessed by Xehanort’s Heartless.
Again, I have to disagree with you about this being in the past. Given what I keep saying, and also what you guys are saying about this being in the past, AND the fact Nomura said this can be considered as being in the past AND future… I have a new theory.
This trailer really is in the future, however, all this has actually before… think of it as KW II (Keyblade War Two)
The Old guy we see in this is Xehanort, or perhaps even going back to my old theory of a Third Element, (another type of Heartless/Nobody creature) once again causing trouble as he has in the past 3 games, and once even before that.
Once again, though… I have to say this.
Even though the Starseeker is not the Keyblade we see Mickey using in the game, it IS still a Keyblade. And Mickey never got his Keyblade till after the start of KH1. This just CAN’T be in the past. Almost everything we see in the trailer is proven to be after the start of the first game.
And, yet again… a simple solution…
Xehanort in games = young
Xehanort in trailer = old
Do the math, guys.
on 23 Jun 2007 at 9:29 pm 545. Matek of the Artum
It is obvious that the trailer is from the past, well, most of it anyway. Here’s my theory.
There were four chasers. xehanort, terra, ven, and Aqua. They fought in the Keyblade war of legend, or they came around after the war. Doesn’t matter. Not for the theory anyway. Okay, the old man, corrupted xehanort, or xehanort defected. BUt the moral is that xehanort was possessed like Riku. Hence, the armor, and Xehanort wearing the same clothes as the old man. Now anyway, he works for the old man. The old man may have been one of the enemies during the keyblade wars. Maybe like a main one.
Anyway, the man was wicked strong. And, as we know, Xehanort liked power. he was attracted to it. So, he and the old man became the lost ones. Whatever they did, they all had to meet at “The Gathering”. To finish it all. Then, as you see, they met, fought, lost and Ven was frozen. Not sure if he is dead, his eyes were moving slightly, and his keyblade broke on the rocks(The only time a keyblade with chain has broken) But, its highly likely. Aqua may have died in the fight, because Xenmas is seen talking to her empty armor, but I hope not. Terra is still alive and well(as well as can be said for a loser). And all that Terra has left is his hatred of the one who started the downfall.
Now, as for Mickey having the Starseeker, that means two things. One, that the starseeker once belonged to mickey. And two, that this is set before KH2 and probably KH1. Remember, just because it wasn’t shown, doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. And, mickey wasn’t there for the Keyblade War, he was there just shortly after that. You can tell because the shift in the scene. And the fact that Kingdom Hearts is in the sky. Also, that is where Xemnas got the idea for putting the kingdom hearts moon. He probably knows the chasers.
The only keyblades that have keychains are Mickey’s , the Chasers’, Xehanort’s, and the old man’s. Meaning, that they are probably the only true Keyblades. Seeing as the man could control the other ones like they were nothing. Maybe those are all copies used in the Keyblade War. Remember whenever someone goes to get to Kingdom Hearts, they have that glow on their hand. Think about it.
Now, abbout the knights. Think about it this way.
The names is a dead give away. Sora Kairi Riku. Van Aqua Terra, respectivly. Not decendants, but they are like parallels. Think about it this way. Van/Sora tries to be like Riku/Terra (terra stopped him from chasing after mage) While kairi/Aqua looks on and provide power. I’ll have to write more about this later. Tomorrow.
on 22 Jun 2007 at 12:48 am 544. Mixup
Sorry Roar… just go over the last page before this one. The page where I spend AGES trying to convince people that it is in the future.
on 22 Jun 2007 at 12:45 am 543. Mixup
Shorty has it right.
Xehanort was given his name by Ansem, (rearrange Ansem’s name… you get “Names”, cool huh?) Ignis is Xehanort’s true name. And I also agree with Roar.
If you haven’t already, Roar, go over all the comments in the last 2 pages.
However, looking at EVERYTHING about Xehanort and Terra, and the 2 trailers… this really seems to be both in the past AND future… wait… didn’t Nomura say that in one of his interviews?
on 21 Jun 2007 at 8:10 pm 542. Roar says the cookie
I don’t think that its in the past because Nickey didn’t get his keyblade until he was trapped in the realm of darkness right? And if Ansem gave Xehanort his name and all, then how does the knight know to call him by that if he knew Xehanort when he went by another name?
on 21 Jun 2007 at 7:02 am 541. Shorty
Xehanort, with the ‘x’ taken out and letters rearranged, spells “No heart” or “Another”.
Ignis is the Latin word for fire. Perhaps his real name as you say??
Ven’s full name is Ventus (Latin for wind, but I bet you already knew that). Since Ven is just a nickname. Figured I would throw that in.