Sora on 08 Feb 2006 01:37 pm
Rumours
Kingdom Hearts 3 rumours (that is just rumors for you American readers) and speculation are found here. Please note this is not factual information, but purely guess-work. We have no way of knowing whether or not this is true yet.
By forum user Mr. Tinkerbell & Locke:
WHAT WE KNOW
The three armored characters that are shown in the “Sunset Horizons/The Gathering” and “Birth by Sleep” secret trailers ARE NOT Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Similarly, the bald man is not Ansem/Xehanort or his Nobody/Heartless.
The names of the armoured characters are: Ven, the Roxas-like character who is frozen; Aqua, the knight with blue hair; and Terra, the largest of the knights and the one who’s face is revealed at the very end.
The Enigmatic Solider is, in fact, Terra, and is hinted to have some connection with Xehanort, though what that connection is, is current unknown. An interesting trend between them now is that they both look similar, and are ‘Enigmatic’ secret bosses.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
DENIED RUMORS
As hinted by Nomura, the story WILL NOT revolve around Sora, as he wants to leave Sora ‘on a break’ for now.
THERE HAS BEEN NO CONFIRMED BOX ART. The box art you see online bearing the name “Kingdom Hearts III” is not the real box art, as there are several flaws – there is no subtitle for Kingdom Hearts III and the side of the box actually has “Kingdom Hearts II” as it’s logo.
The next game will not be titled Kingdom Hearts 3.
The next game will not be on the Playstation 2, as Nomura has stated his last game for the PS2 was Final Mix +.
WHAT WE DON’T KNOW
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by “birth by sleep”.
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like “Finding Nemo” and “Toy Story” were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story – “Andy and/or Sid’s Room”
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles – “Nomanisan Island”
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn’t be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
“100 Acre Wood”
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it’s likely it will come back once again.
“Olympus Colisseum”
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World – “Sand World”
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
“Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden”
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it’s quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
“Destiny Islands”
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it’s almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it’s an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:29 pm 401. Drake
I ARGEE WITH YOU KH GOD!!!!!! It should stay on playstation systems!!!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:33 pm 402. Drake
Or maybe the surprise was Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII. Like we didn’t know about it. Cause it coming out August-December.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:35 pm 403. Drake
In case you guys forgot something SORA DONALD AND GOOFY HAVEN”T GOTTON THERE TRUE HERO WINGS YET!!! (if sora shows up in kh3).
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:37 pm 404. Thimien
Honestly not that i dont like the guys that got a WII, BUT COMON, Blue Ray on PS3 is Allowing them to go way be on PS2, and to be PS2 is better the Xbox and WII, PS2 still suprises me, i think its only gona come out on PS3, just because if it has to come out on PS2, they will have to put it on 3 CDs lol idk what size WII games come out on, but obviasly not going to be biger than Blue Ray… Square are gona xplore to the max Blue Ray, and use it to make KH3 look like hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 2:16 pm 405. curious kh fan
regarding the “true hero wings” if you read the journal after sora, donald and goofy appear in the sky by the contellation of stars, jimminy says that at that moment they became true heros. im out
on 02 Apr 2007 at 2:28 pm 406. thomas murray
what i think is that since xarnaut goes to get mellicifients help to get his memories back that something might happen that fuses nobodys and heartless together to create mindless which is probably that last symbal that roxas draws on that paper and it would make sense because it would get boring just doing the same stuff over again defeating heartless and nobodys defeating bosses saving kingdome hearts etc… so why not create a new enemy an enemy more powerful than heartless and nobodys the mindless beings who fear the keyblade above nothingelse going from world to world searching for minds to make themselves whole
on 02 Apr 2007 at 2:43 pm 407. Oblivion
my guess is that the 2nd secret ending is in the past and that the brown haired dude is ansem and he starts studying the heart t try to save roxas(maybe his son)but while studying roxas was reborn as sora and lives in sora as soras heartless and is part of him.
after that the story picks up where we left off on KH2
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:05 pm 408. Yue_Kitsune
jeez are we back to the console thing? it’ll be years before it’s out. plenty of time for the ps3 prices to drop.
anyway, responding to 375 and 376 by Supreme Lindsey:
i’ll agree that maybe not everyone was “reincarnated” (not even sure thats the right word in this case, re-made maybe). i’m thinking the last knight shown, the one with the eye’s changing, is either xemnas, or saix in the past. this being before they became heartless – most likely xemnas as it mentions his lost memories. the Roxas look alike is not the reincarnation of sora, but rather who sora was remade from, that could explain why roxas doesn’t really look like sora. i think the chasers will be neutral if they play an active part in the story. they could all be dead and just be metioned, or not take sides and try to stop everyone. i’m guessing the chasers come from a world similar to were the nobodies come from – useing roxas’ look alike, and the fact that roxas is a nobody to support that.
i don’t think the old man is xemnas’ master, more like subconsios role model – he loses his memories, probably has flashbacks relating to the bald guy and figures hell i might as well be evil like him – also only heartless ansem dress like the old guy.
on a side note, the old guy clearly uses an earth spell to rase the ground, the girl would be a healer because she cast protect, and because they split the dark keyblade wielder can probably use the same spells as the old guy
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:08 pm 409. Yue_Kitsune
i agree with oblivion, the eye changing knight could also be ansem the wise
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:10 pm 410. Yue_Kitsune
we need to decid on names for these people, didn’t someone mentioned their names before
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:12 pm 411. Yue_Kitsune
hear we go post 377
The three Knight holding the Keyblades are Hiro,Ata,and Helio.
at least we have something to call them.
now we just have to figure out who’s who
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:17 pm 412. Oblivion
thanx Yue_Kitsune i’m just tryna kill time til the game comes out
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:19 pm 413. Yue_Kitsune
i think you’ll need something besides this forum to that
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:19 pm 414. Oblivion
thanx Yue_Kitsune i’m just tryna kill time til the game comes out and wanna know how i kno 4 sure that that was ansem look at the grey haired ansem from kh1 and then the brown haired ansem
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:26 pm 415. Yue_Kitsune
Wait what?
ansem the wise is dirty blond with long hair,
heartless ansem had silver hair( i think )
on 02 Apr 2007 at 3:35 pm 416. Oblivion
yea heartless ansem and tha guy with brown hair had the same eyes
on 02 Apr 2007 at 4:28 pm 417. Yuri
Hello.
Actually the armored people were revealed in a Kingdom Hearts special PSM (Playstaion magazine.). The people there are the judges from Final Fantasy 12. This is *not* a rumor.
And as for the console thing, why in the world would it come in wii? Sony and Nintendo are competetors, no way are they going to pass one of their best selling series to Nintendo!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 4:32 pm 418. King of Fire
I think that the whole kingdom hearts 3 is just about sora’s dreams. “Birth by Sleep” that could mean that Sora is creating all this in his dreams. Maybe he has some bond with that world and that whole world depends on him. So i belive that Sora is creating all this by his dreams and somehow the darkness inside him is starting to take over. Because Mickey probably went into Sora’s dreams to help save him and or the Universe. That is my statement. Correcvt me if you think im wrong.
{*} King of Fire~
on 02 Apr 2007 at 5:47 pm 419. Oblivion
i think Pj on comment 127 is very close in fact i think hes right because if u read the interviews they tell u the clip is from the past
on 02 Apr 2007 at 5:58 pm 420. Oblivion
some of the ppl on the pther comments think that tha blue-haired chick is a boy look at the way she walks retards
on 02 Apr 2007 at 6:15 pm 421. kaoru lover
i believe that the frozen knight was Roxas…and the other knight looked like Riku…which means that it could be his nobody, because his heart was strong enough for him to get Sora’s keyblade before…so his heart would be strong enough to make a nobody…whoever the old man was…he had the ability to move the rocks…and the taller knight held the smaller one from fighting…so they must have a good connection…like Sora and Kairi do….
on 02 Apr 2007 at 6:17 pm 422. Yue_Kitsune
also the armour is clearly feminen
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:02 pm 423. Reaper
This is my theory. I have gotten many facts by searching the net for hours. First though I would like to say THERE ARE NOT TWO EVIL PEOPLE!!! Xehanort makes a copy of himself, not two diffrent people.
Now then on with the theory….
Its in the future
The evil person in the movie, Is what happens when Xemnas (nobody) and Fake Ansem(Heartless) combine.
If you remember they where both “lost” in the darkness. It would be easy if they lived (Which they did) to come back together. In the darkness its like “Sleeping” and when the two combine Its a new person, Or an new person is being born “Birth” again.
I think this is in the future, the tallest knight is Sora, Everyone saying the Kid looks like Roxas, but Roxas is just a copy of Sora with diffrent cloths and blond hair. I think they are Soras kids. Plus if you look the girl with Gray/Silver hair looks shockingly like *hint*hint* Kairi.
Looks like someone got lucky.
All the worlds have fallin into chaos, because they where conected. remember it said in the first one all the worlds where diffrent? and all had to not know about other worlds? Atleast one person on each world knows about it from Sora.
The would fall into chaos Explaining that Sora saved all those places, but brought them Chaos.
If you look, when Sora goes into Darkness form, (like proud form, or wisdom form) his eyes turn Yellow like that and His skin turns black.
Xehanort Is there at the cross-roads of all worlds to try once again to control Kingdom hearts, it even shines directly on that world (he just splits the clouds for you to see it).
They are there to stop him as a last resort. Sora may be turning “Heartless” because of all the rage of failing and All the worlds fell to chaos because of him.
I think this is right and I don’t really want to hear you yell at me, but positive feed back would be welcomed.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:18 pm 424. Thimien
Not saying its wrong, but its not right eather, but you do have a lot of imagination lol
I think its something even biger and better, the fact is, square would not bring a video out giving out that much info, or it would be to easy, theres more, i think SORA aint on that video, but Roxas is, i think Roxas is gona be a key caracter in next KH, but in the end it will all come to Sora, Kairi, and Riku, it has to.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:29 pm 425. Sammy
I think kingdom hearts should continue on ps2 cause puttin it on WII or ps3 is just silly if they started it on ps2 then they should finish it on ps2 simple as dat cause the people who like kingdom hearts like the ps2 and dont want to b buyin a new console just to carry on there favourite game. and the graohics would be better for the combat than the WII the be honest. If people want kingdom hearts 3 then they should buy a ps3 or ps cause i think WII r rubbish there not a proper console there like eye toy but with remotes not a camera. I think alot of people agree with me who have ps and just want it stat as ps cause some of us can’t afford a ps3 or any other console or cause were young like ME!!!!! Loads of people r just like to agree wiv me and KINGDOM HEARTS SHOULD STAY ON PS2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FOR CRIST SAKE PS2 IF U WANT KINGDOM HEARTS GET A PS2 OR PS3 U LAZY BUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:51 pm 426. the thinker
anyone there?
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:54 pm 427. the thinker
wow…i just read reapers comment,(theroie)i like agree on that completely (the realllllly long comment ontop of this like 3 or 4 up) lol
on 02 Apr 2007 at 7:58 pm 428. the thinker
sick-0 dont write that sutff on this web….sick-0 ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:06 pm 429. the thinker
omg…..the word c `h `a` `t `r`o o` `m is banned from the thing…if u use it then it tells u that your message is in “moderation”
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:09 pm 430. Lorii
Anyone think that the song Passion (Sanctuary) as a lil answer?
“My hearts a battle ground.”
Kingdom herats and those keys wich represent the war.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:12 pm 431. Lorii
That song was before all this..TEH FREAKEH
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:32 pm 432. samalama41
K. I am so frikin confuesed!!! 1st, KH3 should be on a PS type system not WII. I totally agree wit Sammy. And by “Bith by sleep” I think wat they mean is While Sora and friends were relaxing or sleeping- all this happened; the war, chasers-by the way what are they?etc. Please- i need an explenation to that trailer!! Something must of happened to Sora cause in the video something happen to roxas-i think. Maybe the kid with the short bluuish hair was..I got it!!! In the video @ the end ( u need to read it) it says “There is no such thing as a coincedence in fate.” then the guy with the wierd eyes shows up and they show Kingdom Hearts and it says “All fates have been set” then Mickey (in a new outfit)holding the keyblade that his master person gave him stares @ it and then it says “After a long time each fate….will await the awakening of a new tale..” The people we see in the video must me the new Sora, Roxas, kairi, Riku and Mickey + evil dudes. So its a “new tale”
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:36 pm 433. OriaDonata
on 31 Mar 2007 at 6:45 am 34.Foxmc said …
I will like Kingdom hearts 3 on ps2…..I dont know why but everyone has got a ps2 and the fans that cant afford a ps3 or simply a wii will be Dissapointed…What do you think
I agree. I ujst told my mother that I will be saving up for a new console. I think if they make games they should make a version for EVERY console.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:38 pm 434. Toni
you guys i think i know. i didn’t read all the comments but i read that some of you think that its sora and roxas and riku and kairi and namine or a combination or whatever in the mix secret ending. IT IS NOT ANY OF THEM! did u even read the rumor page? it says it clearly that it’s not them and they’re new introduced characters. the mix secret ending probably takes place before or after kingdom hearts 1.
woo i just had to get this out. sorry guys
and read the reapers theory it sounds pretty cool :]
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:40 pm 435. Toni
and when i say after kingdom hearts i mean like 20 years after when they’re all grown up.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 8:49 pm 436. samalama41
OMG! Reaper- u could be onto something!! (LOL on that “lucky” thing ^^)The video is probaly of the future and the song “saunturay” or “passion” whatever kinda gives u a hint to the 3rd the lyrics-’my heart is a battlefield’ and ‘melt away’ well, the kid froze… this is so confuesing yet, so addicting! i wonder wat happen 2 Donald and Goofy. And the helmets tell if its a boy or a girl: the one in the beging that pushed the smaller one outta the way and charged the bald dude was a boy cause the helmet-the antena/horn things were facing forward and the smaller dude(dudett)was facing back
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:11 pm 437. Draven
Alright, I know this has been said often but KH3 should be released for all the three systemes. They would make all KH fans happy and plsu making alot more money as well. And another thing, Dustin… You’re teory makes so much sense I swear you were fired from Square Enix XD. After watching the trailor the first time I thought it might have something to do with Kairi,Sora and Riku’s parent’s but then after a while it laked a few things. Even if the silver haired female resembles Riky, the brunette Male resembles Kairi and the male that looked like Roxas odbiously resembles Sora.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:24 pm 438. Axel
Reaper you’ve got a great hteory as well. It could be possible, extremly possible. But there’s more to it, there’s got to be a twist somewhere knowing Square. They always have something unexpected and completly intersting add in to all there games.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:33 pm 439. Yue_Kitsune
I like reapers theory, but i don’t think any of the original cast – aside from mickey and possibly xemnas – are in the video. the hair of the big knight is nothing like Sora’s, and the only way Roxas could be in it is if Sora got turned into a heartless again – that’s what happens with the dark drive form thing, all his evil comes out temporiarily turning him into a heartless, since his heart is so strong he changes back which is why his eyes turn yellow.
didn’t Ansem the wise have yellow eyes though? does that mean that he was a heartless – at one time or another? If so then where’s his nobody?
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:52 pm 440. curious kh fan
that makes alot of sense actually… ansem the wise did have those bright yellow eyes and he did perish in KH2. so whenansem the wise died a heartless was created (which could be the old guy in the secret ending) ans his nobody could be the brown haired “chaser”
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:57 pm 441. curious kh fan
i just watched the video again and the old bald guy also has yellow-ish eyes like ansem the wise
on 02 Apr 2007 at 9:59 pm 442. Remyx
riku_rules…i got it from this guy on youtube
he also had this…
Information on Kingdom Hearts III
Sora has to be the main character of Kingdom Hearts 3. Without Sora, * 1) it’s not Kingdom Hearts, seeing as creator Tetsuya Nomura said himself, “Kingdom Hearts is Sora’s story. * 2) Because the franchise would take serious financial losses, for the upsetting of many, many fans of the series. Unlike Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts is an on-going story and each title does not stand alone. * The 3 armored people in Sunset Horizons are new characters. They are not anyone we’ve seen before, including Sora, Riku, or Kairi. Nomura said so himself. However, they are related to people that were already in the game. This is not to say that they are related by blood. Also, this does not apply to the blurry figure on the horizon in the secret trailer, as far as we know. * The line from Sunset Horizons, “It all began with birth by sleep”, does NOT apply to Roxas’ creation. Yes, in the KHII intro, Roxas comes out of Sora’s sleeping body. However, Roxas was not born then. He was created the exact second Sora turned into a Heartless during Kingdom Hearts I, which was well before Sora went to sleep. * The soul does not turn into a “Souless” when one goes Heartless. The Heart turns into a Heartless, and the body and soul remain behind, making a Nobody. So the soul is part of a Nobody. * The third icon that Roxas draws on the table in the Twilight Town Mansion is the Kingdom Crown, the crown that Sora wears around his neck. It’s not some mystery symbol. You can see it clearly from the right angle. * Roxas and Namine are most likely not the “lost two”. They are very much found, and now reside in Sora and Kairi respectively. Roxas’s and Namine’s roles in the KH story are pretty much over, and the slightest chance they would appear in KH3 would be for flashbacks. If, in an extreme scenario, they do appear, it would be to aid Sora and Kairi with whatever they need help with, but as it stands now, they are fused with original selves now and most likely will not appear anyway.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:12 pm 443. curious kh fan
i have finally found a trailer that has the ending with mickey holding his keyblade in english… the words that appear at the end are mostly likly in chineese or something on the version you have watched, but thie english one i found has the words translated and the last statement of the trailer is “A New Story Awaits The Awakening” does anyone understand what this is trying to say or hint towards. if so, post your theories.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:16 pm 444. Ashley
I think that it sucks that the main characters aren’t going to be Sora, Kairi, and Riku. I LOVE Kingdom Hearts and it wouldn’t be the same without them. I just had to say that!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:18 pm 445. joe sumbody
new theory. kingdom hearts was made as a safe to keep xenorts thoughts and memory and strenth locked up. i think this because in kh1 u see two giant shadow things and pods. the pods are the memories and strenth and the shadows r the gardians. i thinck this be cause why would the heart of all world witch is supposed to be light have hartless in it? o yeah, xenort wanted to be taken by the hartless. that way he could use the heartless to recover the strenth and the nobody to get the memories. that explains why his heartless is so hostile and why the nobody is calim and wise. that explains why he was so determined to get kingdom hearts.
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on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:28 pm 446. joe sumbody
i just read reapers theory. i like it. e mail me and we can discuse our theories. two heads r better than one ^_^
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:58 pm 447. KingdomHeart
LOOK AT MY IMPORTANT KINGDOM HEARTS THEORY BELOW.
THIS THEORY IS SUPPORTED BY THE ANSEM REPORTS AND THE SECRET ANSEM REPORTS SHOWN IN BOTH GAMES.
Ansem is the Brown haired dude with the yellow eyes by the way. Ansem is kairis father for kairi is the princess of Radiant Garden. The girl with the blue hair who resembles kairi is in fact kairis mother. The yellow hair guy is Ansem’s other son ROXAS. Roxas is frozen to death. Ansem in trying to save him so he studies the two or three parts that which are the heart(heartless),body(nobody), maybe the mind(chasers). In trying to save his son’s life he creates sora. That is the main connection between sora and roxas. The bald guy is undoubtedly Xehanort but I have a feeling that the doppelganger may be riku. There may be an unknown connnection between Riku and Xehanort. They may be the same person(2% chance).
PLEASE COMMENT> YOUR COMMENTS BENEFIT ME AND EVERYONE INTO FIGURING OUT THE STORYLINE FOR KH3.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 11:00 pm 448. charlie
sora’s anti form had yellow eyes. if kh3 is coming out in 4 terribly long years there will probably be a new system out by then. i think it would be cool if kairi was the key to kh. i want kairi hair!!!!!!
on 02 Apr 2007 at 11:02 pm 449. KingdomHeartMASTER
The above comment is mine and I forgot to type my name Master at the end of it. Please believe me for if anyone poses to be KingdomHeart then ask them what happened at April 1 3:17 Am. If they are incorrect then they are lying .
CHeck rumors for the answer.
on 02 Apr 2007 at 11:08 pm 450. KingdomHeartMASTER
COmment and theory 447 is mine . I typed it .