Sora on 08 Feb 2006 01:37 pm
Rumours
Kingdom Hearts 3 rumours (that is just rumors for you American readers) and speculation are found here. Please note this is not factual information, but purely guess-work. We have no way of knowing whether or not this is true yet.
By forum user Mr. Tinkerbell & Locke:
WHAT WE KNOW
The three armored characters that are shown in the “Sunset Horizons/The Gathering” and “Birth by Sleep” secret trailers ARE NOT Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Similarly, the bald man is not Ansem/Xehanort or his Nobody/Heartless.
The names of the armoured characters are: Ven, the Roxas-like character who is frozen; Aqua, the knight with blue hair; and Terra, the largest of the knights and the one who’s face is revealed at the very end.
The Enigmatic Solider is, in fact, Terra, and is hinted to have some connection with Xehanort, though what that connection is, is current unknown. An interesting trend between them now is that they both look similar, and are ‘Enigmatic’ secret bosses.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
DENIED RUMORS
As hinted by Nomura, the story WILL NOT revolve around Sora, as he wants to leave Sora ‘on a break’ for now.
THERE HAS BEEN NO CONFIRMED BOX ART. The box art you see online bearing the name “Kingdom Hearts III” is not the real box art, as there are several flaws - there is no subtitle for Kingdom Hearts III and the side of the box actually has “Kingdom Hearts II” as it’s logo.
The next game will not be titled Kingdom Hearts 3.
The next game will not be on the Playstation 2, as Nomura has stated his last game for the PS2 was Final Mix +.
WHAT WE DON’T KNOW
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by “birth by sleep”.
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like “Finding Nemo” and “Toy Story” were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story - “Andy and/or Sid’s Room”
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles - “Nomanisan Island”
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn’t be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
“100 Acre Wood”
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it’s likely it will come back once again.
“Olympus Colisseum”
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World - “Sand World”
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
“Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden”
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it’s quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
“Destiny Islands”
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it’s almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it’s an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
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on 04 May 2008 at 8:06 pm 17040. riku
big : no one knows. my guess is that they will be there but not the main characters
on 04 May 2008 at 6:37 pm 17039. KHfan
underdog volume 2 of the manga is coming out in may. its like may 18th or someting like that
on 04 May 2008 at 6:06 pm 17038. Big
so in Kh3 is terra, aqua, and ven still alive
on 04 May 2008 at 5:46 pm 17037. riku
groundpouder: interesting but aquas death is unlikly
on 04 May 2008 at 4:46 pm 17036. shadow15
Oh, I almost forgot Master Xehanort has yellow eyes but I have no idea about the ds and why Xehanort has a few different characteristics.
on 04 May 2008 at 4:44 pm 17035. shadow15
Hmm, interesting theory.
There’s a problem I need to bring up about your theory, Terra has blue eyes in the secret ending they turn yellow but when we see Xehanort his eyes are a brownish red color and when he becomes a heartless along with him taking his new masters name Ansem has yellow eyes and so does his nobody Xemnas who was created at the same time.
Quite interesting, it should be looked into more.
on 04 May 2008 at 3:20 pm 17034. Groundpounder124
I’ve been throwing this around in my head for a couple of days now:
What IF Terra is the younger self of Xehanort. Now please hear me out. Please read Ansem Report #1 from KH2:
As noted in my earlier reports, I must solve the mystery of this “darkness of the heart.” This paradise(Radiant Garden) depends on it.
I shall perform an experiment to probe the depth’s of a person’s heart. One of my own apprentices, Xehanort, has volunteered to be a subject.
The young man has served me ever since I nursed him back from death’s door some years ago.
He had lost all of his memories at the time , but showed remarkable intellectual curiosity and readily absorbed my teachings, gaining deep wisdom. Any mental immaturity is surely due to his young age.
If I explore Xehanort’s heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within. My apprentice, Even, has also shown great interest in Xehanort’s memories.
But is he really the right subject?
Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents…
Too extraordinary…
Perhaps they are even superhuman.
(End report)
Alright then, here’s how it happened. Ven has already given up his body to Sora and Aqua has been killed by Master Xehanort. Terra, out of anger and a want to finish things up, decides to kill Master Xehanort. He goes to battle Master Xehanort in Radiant Garden and defeats him, but is grieviously wounded in battle. During the whole battle, Terra has the need and want for the death of Aqua and self-sacrifice of Ven to have never occurred. So when Ansem the Wise found Terra at his door and asked him his name, Terra had two things on his mind. That Ven, Aqua and himself never existed(basicly he’s in self denial because of the emotional pain he is facing), and that for some reason, he killed a man named Xehanort. So in a way he made himself forget those memories, only remembering one singal word:
Xehanort.
Ansem, of course, thinks that it’s Terra’s name, because he has just asked the question. So henceforth, Terra was known as Xehanort. Xehanort begins to take in information so that he can fill up his “empty” mind. About ten years pass and by that time, there’s not a single notion of Terra, Aqua, and Ven of ever existing in Xehanort’s mind and Xehanort is older and has dyed his hair a different color. That’s when Ansem the Wise begins to perform tests on Xehanort. The “extraordinary talents” that Xehanort posses are obviuously there because of his past skills with the Keyblade.
Now when Xehanort becomes a Heartless he takes up the name of Ansem after his teacher. His subconcious is probably saying to him, “What’s in a name anyways?” So therefore, Xemnas is also created from Xehanort’s body and soul. Now I quote Saix from Sora’s second visit to Twilight Town, “True we don’t have hearts, but we can remember what it was like. That, is what makes us special.”
So Xemnas, who is suddenly born from Xehanort’s Heartless, can remember emotions. So he can also remember that his former self was originally named Terra, and that he had two friends named Aqua and Ven. That is why Xemnas says, “Hello my old friend.” to Aqua’s armour in KH2 Final Mix.
And that is why I believe Terra is the younger self of Xehanort. Hope this make an impression on you all.
on 04 May 2008 at 2:19 pm 17033. shadow15
With FF characters they are likely to add those characters to the story so it’s like when FF and Disney combines it’s stories and characters it makes Kingdom Hearts so I expect more in the story of ff characters in the coming games.
on 04 May 2008 at 2:17 pm 17032. shadow15
Hey, Wait a second if Namine was a Nobody of Kairi and Sora and came out as a blonde witch where does she get all of her memory?It’s like cloning someone,So she’s blonde and Kairi and sora are red haired while Sora is brown So wouldn’t that make Namine’s connection closer to Roxas as to Ven?
It’s just this question here,They were entities before the ending of Kingdom Hearts two so how did they become spirit like people at the end of Kingdom Hearts two.
Also, as we can see Sora can remember before Kairi came to Destiny Islands, So wouldn’t Namine be able to remember as far as Birth By Sleep also?
Also if Terra,Aqua and Ven each became nobodies and all I think that Aqua was the last to go.
Also, The Oathkeeper was given by Kairi so wouldn’t that be like Kairi created her own keyblade or did she just get it from somewhere herself?
If the new org. member is not Aqua and it’s not Namine, I think that it is someone created through Kairi but not Namine, You guys remember how Xemnas and Roxas were made right, well Kairi is a princess of heart and can weild the keyblade,Namine was made from both Sora and Kairi so that is to making “another” one of each other, So I see it as something like this that each of their hearts are connected from Ven to Aqua and so on.
Where ever Vens body is it is asleep until Roxas returned to Soras entity as well as Namine.
I think that they have awakened and that MX and his little dark companion is somewhereelse and still out there.
I think Coded will have more to do with retrieving Ansem The Wise who I believe could overcome the darkness like Riku in a way.
From KH1 we see it like ATW was banished and then Sora defeated the entity of Xehanort and left the other, Xemnas left.
I think it’s basically possession that brought Xehanort to be but the heart is where i’m confused here, How did he keep it.
Xehanort is as said an anagram of No heart and another so there is another somewhere and his heart is ???
I think the heart he kept went from darkness to less darkness and then back and I see it as Xemnas just wanted his body back and all but you know they were seperate beings.
When one is taken by the darkness or defeated by a heartless I thought that that was when the person taken can only become a heartless, In order to be one you have to be taken by darkness otherwise you’re just gone to kh.I see it that they know how to make clones in the org. for example the dark riku.
I think that the fourteenth is created through someoneelse, but made from Terra to Aqua or Ven to Aqua sort of like Namine and that Aqua is also a princess of heart or one or the other is a prince of heart.
The code Xemnas had to use was all the org. names so they could be resting in there as well as aqua and such.
I really just don’t know, I might be thinking too hard, but I hope this still brought up some thoughts.
on 04 May 2008 at 1:44 pm 17031. shadow15
Well I always thought that in the Chamber of Sleep was a Chamber for sleeping and the Chamber of Awakening was for Awakening, So who exactly is sleeping and awakening?
Who knows it probably will hint in birth by sleep and other kh games what they are exactly used for.
I think that Aquas armor was left in that room as the other two’s armor is somewhere near there as well.
I notice that there’s a world in birth by sleep which is Sleeping Beauty, But what i’m wondering is what the story line will be in that world and from what it said during Kingdom Hearts 1 quite a few of these world were taken by the darkness.
So could it be that there are some keyblades left out there and that the keyblade is just a weapon used as something to go one place from another to a chosen person, But the question is how?
I think that they are just chosen weilders or apparent weilders seeing as Sora can weild many keyblades like other characters.
I think there are some left with keychains and that otherwise they are just weapons and today they are used as some sort of symbolism and are talked about in legend and talks about heros from the past of the keyblade it’s basically legend if you ask me but where are all these weapons that were lying in the ground coming from?
They are keys to hearts and worlds and such and I see it that without the keychain they are just keys used as weapons.
So somehow Aquas keyblade was just a weapon in the first place as well as Terras and Vens other than the Way to The Dawn,Dark keyblade,and Sora’s Kingdom Key.
I think that the chamber of sleep was used to put some people asleep and that it was used to transfer data and such, Things like memory and making heartless and things like that, as said they did do experiments over time.
So a lot of these heartless could be fakes as in against nature or cloned perhaps as seen all the weilders were gone in the secret ending.
In KH3 I expect big crowds in these worlds not like three people in each world.
I’ll continue this later.
on 04 May 2008 at 1:25 pm 17030. shadow15
Well the girl above Donald is Namine, Either you suspected it was her or thought it was her and still brought it up but it’s not a big deal.
Yeah, It’s Namine you can tell better once you get a good look it’s just how they drew her on the cover.
I havent played kingdom hearts for so long now,I forgot, How exactly do you go Antiform?
I always figured since it’s like practically called against form and he kept his body form like a heartless.
But his eyes glow like Roxas’ from a scene on destiny islands when it was covered in darkness.
It seems there had to be some reason that those characters were on the island in that scene.
on 04 May 2008 at 11:58 am 17029. neptune
oh and the “chamber of awakening” if any1 knows any info about that.
on 04 May 2008 at 11:57 am 17028. neptune
hey does any1 know anything about “the chamber of sleep” that zexion and xigbar were talking about? cause that was the place where Aquas armour was and xemnas was talking to someone isn’t it? and will xigbar get his scars in BBs or 358/2 days. i think BBs, just cause theirs a war involved in BBs, maybe he fought in it?
and also namine shows alot of emotion in COM for a nobody, the orgnization members show emotion to, but she was practicaly crying over messing with sora’s memories.
on 04 May 2008 at 4:30 am 17027. Underdog10
Its finally coming out!
Alright! Its been forever since they did volume 1!
As for that girl, I have no idea who it is.
Do you know when the volume will be released?
on 04 May 2008 at 4:11 am 17026. KHfan
speaking of anti form, is there really a meaning to it, or is it just kind of to show that sora was a heartless? or is it just there because it looks cool?
off subject here, but click on the link in my name, and you will see the cover of the upcoming kh2 volume 2 manga. who the heck is the girl on sora’s left side? right above donald? is that supposed to be namine?? it looks nothing like her, but who else would it be??
on 04 May 2008 at 3:51 am 17025. shadow15
Hey, You know how Sora can go antiform and he pretty much doesn’t use his keyblade in that form, why is it his eyes glow if that reminds anyone of a certain scene and it’s not the kh2 secret ending?
Also,Since it’s called antiform wouldn’t that mean against form?
When he turns into that it’s kind of interesting cause it reminds you of a heartless that can keep his regular form sort of, something like that.
on 04 May 2008 at 3:28 am 17024. Underdog10
*sighs*
WHO KNOWS!
Chances are probly not, but the game has NOT EVEN BEGUN DEVELOPMENT.
They seriously need to update this page so people will stop asking stuff like that.
But anyways, chances are it will be on PS3, since its the only system that has enough power to run it.
on 04 May 2008 at 2:41 am 17023. Sambo
Will the game come out on PS2?
on 04 May 2008 at 1:40 am 17022. Underdog10
ME!!
on 04 May 2008 at 12:58 am 17021. Hannah
hey any1 here????
on 04 May 2008 at 12:54 am 17020. Underdog10
See what I think happened is kinda,
Namine is Kairi’s Nobody through and through,
its just Sora kinda of altered her a little bit.
Changed her. And her reaction to him made her very special.
So she reacted to Sora, but she is still Kairi’s Nobody.
on 04 May 2008 at 12:33 am 17019. KHfan
seriuosly big. lol. i dont think namine has any boyish features to get confused about.
on 04 May 2008 at 12:28 am 17018. riku
big: were u just joking or r u sereusly thinking namine was a boy
on 03 May 2008 at 11:41 pm 17017. Groundpounder124
The armoured figures are Terra, Aqua and Ven. Terra is the biggest, Aqua is the girl, and the one who looks like Roxas is Ven. And before you assume they’re not in KH3. They’re in KH Birth By Sleep. IF you don’t know what that is then please visit this site’s page on the game.
KH3 isn’t even in development yet. The release date estimations range from late 2009 to even 2011. We don’t know. We can only hope it comes out before we get into college and lose time to play it or become workaholics. *shivers*
on 03 May 2008 at 11:11 pm 17016. sarah
does anyone know when its coming out??
on 03 May 2008 at 8:13 pm 17015. keybladero4
does any one know who the armored guys are?
on 03 May 2008 at 7:59 pm 17014. shadow15
Big:Namine is a Girl and Roxas is a boy.
Now,Namine has to be somebodies body and soul otherwise Roxas would have Soras soul and Namine would have Kairis soul.
So where did their bodies come from?
Kairi and Namine meet as whole beings just like Sora and Roxas.
So Namine may have came from more than one soul and instead took pieces of souls, possibly.
So there is Sora,Kairi and Aqua and maybe someoneelse that made Namine except I think they are seperate bodies.
It’s just like with Xehanort, It goes from Master Xehanort to Xehanort then Xehanort transforms and takes the name Ansem while another being Xemnas is created at the same time.
Where does the extra body come from, Though I guess you can say if they have taken the memory of another and the soul somehow leaving the others memory and soul somewhereelse as in switching back and forth maybe.
???
Also, Since Kairi entered through Sora who does have some darkness in him may leave darkness in Kairi, maybe.
As to Xehanort i’m not sure him as well as Sora could keep their free will as heartless so it could have just been a guide or something, Kairi was awakened when Sora turned back to normal so where exactly does the nobody appear, and honestly how does Roxas weild a keyblade when the thing is he is a nobody just as strong as the org. or Namine.
Kairi could weild the keyblade as well and Riku can keep control under the powers of darkness as others just turn into heartless, So when the darkness of possibly the ds that entered him leaving making another, I’m really confused.
It’s also interesting that since Xemnas is the nobody of Xehanort in which I think they are each fairly different says to Aquas armor “old friend” while her keyblade is left there meaning maybe she is unable to weild it and she was used for another or something.
on 03 May 2008 at 6:22 pm 17013. Big
So is namine a boy or a girl
on 03 May 2008 at 5:49 pm 17012. riku
tazimus its true that namine was formed from soras body and soul when kairi’s heart was inside him but she is still kairi’s nobody
gk: i think he should wear his hood when it is cold outside and yur right anti form is preety sweet but u havent seen nothing till u have seen final form
on 03 May 2008 at 3:59 pm 17011. Tazimus Prime
GK: No that doesn’t make sense. The reason being the Namine first of all is Kairi’s true Nobody and reunited with her at the end of KH2. The other reason is because Kairi can’t have a Nobody in normal since, she can’t even become a Heartless. The reason being because Nobodies and Heartless are manifestations of darkness. Being that Kairi has no darkness in her heart she can’t have a Heartless let alone the corresponding Nobody. The only way for Namine to come into being would have been to use someone else’s body and soul.