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1. on 08 May 2008 at 12:37 pm 17130. Diva19
   

   Now that I think about it Organization 13 never does anything that really states if they’re evil or good, I think that was the idea with it too. King Mickey and Sora & co. represent the good, the heartless represent the evil while the nobodies and organization 13 represent that what’s in between, the neutral in other words. They really doesn’t care for either evil or good they just yearn for their own completion, to be whole. Body, soul and heart. That’s what I think anyway.

2. on 08 May 2008 at 12:22 pm 17129. Diva19
   

   Bah, the picture of Kuja I found wasn’t from KH3, apparently it’s from Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (A PSP game. Among with Kuja Firion(FF2), Zack(FF7)Squall and Ultimecia(FF8) make their appearances. Though Squall( or Leon) have been in the series from the very beginning. I still mean more FF characters should get in the series but still, it’s a start. Queen Brahne would have been the ultimate boss experience, I can see it before me, her ultimate attack could be something like the way sumo-wrestlers slap their thighs before they charge and then she could try sitting on the characters, a battle with her would have been hilarious. And I got a bit dissapointed in KH2, you should be able to fight the entire Organization 13, I mean you actually don’t get to fight even half of them because you fight them in KH: Chain of memories. If you ask me that’s KH’s Achilles heel that shifting between consols and sequels. They should keep it to one consol, at least one consol-type, like Ps2 and Ps3 since that’s what they originally started with. It would have made things easier for the players, I won’t be buying a Psp just to get KH: Birth By Sleep, that’s just silly. But it’s great that they at least uses some more FF characters, especially since FF9 and 8 always end up in the shadows of FF7. FF7 may be a great game but it has it’s flaws just as the others, I wouldn’t name it the best FF even if I got paid to call it that. Personally my vote would go to FF9 (Obviously) but I think FF10 is the one worthy of the title, I don’t think any other, except FF9, has gotten me as emotionally involved as FF10 has, when Auron “dies” that’s just too sad, my bestfriend(Who’s Favorite is Auron) and I almost sat howling. Well that and when the Aeons dissappearing. It’s a rather sad ending. especially if you’ve but much time and effort into training up your Aeons. My Shiva really knew how to kick ass, no wonder since Lulu was my best character, she knew all the -aga’s before mushroomrock, she’s my litle special one. Odd, I suddenly got an urge to play FF10…

3. on 08 May 2008 at 12:08 pm 17128. riku
   

   opps sorry i meant to put *in interveiws* not ansem repots

4. on 08 May 2008 at 12:07 pm 17127. riku
   

   underdog: you are absolutly right. the organization werent nessecerrily bad guys. they had a good reason for everything they did

   groundpounder: r u kidding me? of course the first six members of org 13 are ansems apprentices. nomura stated it at least twenty times in the ansem reports

5. on 08 May 2008 at 11:22 am 17126. Big
   

   I know the commercail for KH3

   THe 3 (SOra, Kairi, and RIku) are at home watching the superbowl their team lost so they got on an angry rage and killed xhenort

6. on 08 May 2008 at 10:47 am 17125. emma brown
   

   i think kingdom hearts 3 i goin to be well cool

7. on 08 May 2008 at 10:17 am 17124. Mano
   

   just finished kingdom hearts 2 madest story and game ever…sumtimes u wish u could be sora and be there it would only be sumthing u can imagin o well …hope kingdom hearts 3 comes out imagine what they can do with da new graphics!!!

8. on 08 May 2008 at 10:07 am 17123. sora
   

   i think i like to come to america. but still i think ide rhather stay here in australia its actuly quite nice here you sould come but i got robbed on christmas eve so sad. but if you are here good luck getting a house ide day its fall 2day. cya!!!!!

9. on 08 May 2008 at 9:36 am 17122. Underdog10
   

   Something I never quite got about the Organization…
   What exactly is it their doing that is so wrong?

   What is so bad about wanting to exist?
   I’m just trying to figure out what horrible thing would have happened if they had succeeded in their plan to become real again.

10. on 08 May 2008 at 7:19 am 17121. neptune
    

    ok shadow15-
    1st of all: when a heart is unlocked or gives into darkness it splits into a heartless and a nobody, nobodys don’t come from the realm of light Diz actualy tells this to roxas ” you reside in darkness” meaning both heartless and nobodys reside in darkness.

    2nd of all: if you actualy listen to the conversations the organization have they say they don’t exist, they have no heart, if you listen to Xaldin he says ” when kingdom hearts is ours we can exist fully and completely”.
    and just before Axel kills Vexen he says ” we don’t even exist” they don’t exist but that dosen’t mean you can’t see them or beat the hell out of them. Anyway thats my proof.

11. on 08 May 2008 at 5:39 am 17120. Underdog10
    

    By the way, I never figured that Roxas was cruel or cold by nature like the rest of Org 13.

    He seemed to have the disposition of Sora most of the time.

12. on 08 May 2008 at 12:48 am 17119. shadow15
    

    Ansem The Wise discovered the goal as Crystal Clear and he thought to himself what if there was an even stronger being giving the orders and in that thought I believe he used his dark powers in somehow transforming into Xehanort for as Ansem Seeker of Darkness and then in doing so the joke was on them and he continued to infiltrate them.
    With a storyline as good as this they should definitely make many games with it.
    I don’t mean just video games but movies and things this stuff is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can’t wait to see how the story is and how gameplay is as well.
    I think that if there is anythings left out that they ought to bring them up some time or another to see how they come out exactly but that’s just me.
    It’s kind of interesting what they could do with FINAL FANTASY and DISNEY combined…

    Anyways, ATW actually seems a bit surprised that the other apprentice heartless have disappeared but it could be very likely that they were taken for further study and cloning and such.
    I mean he does say Xehanort exploited them as a major clue.
    So nobodies are from the realm of light and the heartless are from the dark realm the way I see it Kingdom Hearts is sort of like a combination kind of as where you go when you die in the manner of the game.
    It seems the light of the heart just seperates and the darkness keeps the heart though it is less a heart as a heartless.
    Now these creatures are going around just through everywhere and the heartless are beginning to over populate and keep coming to other realms and trying to take over while the nobodies just search for a heart of any as a regular and it’s somehow that they transform their being whether human or duck for example they become a nobody taking their regular self form into similarity depending on how powerful the heart is.
    The organization is up to a new scheme and looking for more followers so there is something to come in the making especially with this new member the fourteenth.
    So it seems that one half of the organization is or was in Castle Oblivion while the other half were elsewhere carrying out missions and projects and such.
    Castle Oblivion consisting of 12 floors underground and 13 above had 25 floors what exactly did they do in these extra rooms I wonder, It seems Namine was a subject, Could have insight on the fourteenth or Aqua but I don’t know about that.
    Ansem Report 9 explains almost perfectly how Namine was made.(hint)
    And the rest of the reports are regularly understood in plain sight since theories of Roxas and Ven to Sora and so on.
    -

13. on 07 May 2008 at 11:36 pm 17118. shadow15
    

    Big:There were commercials, I think if you looked hard enough on the internet you may be able to find them.
    The side story commercial or commercials should be coming soon.

    I will take a break and tell the rest of my theory later.

14. on 07 May 2008 at 11:34 pm 17117. shadow15
    

    Stephen:I think that it may be quite possible of last names although they might not but I do suggest they reveal some even if they havent thought of any currently and it would be a good idea, also considering quite a few Final Fantasy characters have last names.

    Now, Back to my theory.
    Diz(ATW) goes in search of revenge and somehow transforms over these events during Chain of Memories when as we see that Ansem Seeker of Darkness was not permanently dead and probably could be brought back but as for now I think that Ansem Seeker of Darkness or clone of MX/DS of Terra could still be out there and in some areas of his consistency may he be able to live on but for now I think he’s like a spirit and that the darkness is as well and we will learn more in these future games that will leave huge impacts as we know it…
    I think that Ansem The Wise had went through the same thing as Xehanort and that when he was defeated by Sora he went after him and was defeated as that sort of like with Riku as a smaller being his appearance came different somehow and he overcame it after Sora defeated him and surprisingly didn’t kill him but that’s all the fun in the fighting part it lasts long cause you can’t break their leg after some period of time hitting it with large metallic key that’s used as a blade, lol.
    So it went the same in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories when Riku beat the heck out of them with his way to the dawn and he could use both powers of dark and light and that when he used the powers of darkness he transformed into what looks like Ansem Seeker of Darkness just like with ATW when he meets up at TWTNW he too came out of his new powers of the darkness.
    As they went on these reports had gotten lost through such adventures.
    Said in Ansem Report #5 they could use pure blood heartless in making pure blood heartless as well as artificial.
    It’s actually quite sick when you think about it cause they could make them up of the same pure blood and such.
    “PURE BLOOD OF EMBLEM” The ones that came from the machine would search for a heart to snatch for it’s own ranks and grow and feed off of them and in doing so getting an emblem, Though i’m not sure of these types and that the creature at the beginning of kh1 probably had been sent by Xehanort as we see him in the secret place.
    His heartless guardian I presume maybe even the DS or in good relation, possibly but as so.
    He started out in search of his memory as someone who desperately desires it and it went and backfired to smithereens and continues.
    As these nobodies and heartless search for what their instincts tell them but the nobodies are slightly misunderstood mainly in fact having them destroy many heartless could help and not help it just depends on the situation but at the end of kh 2 that was taken care of but the story is still to continue in an intersting way that will not fully be explained until the game and or games come out.

15. on 07 May 2008 at 11:30 pm 17116. Big
    

    WHy isn’t there commercails for KH1 and 2

16. on 07 May 2008 at 11:01 pm 17115. shadow15
    

    If these seem as spoilers to you and you do not want to have anything spoiled I suggest you don’t read this or stop at a certain point at least considering how long this is anyways.
    Ansem The Wise commenting in the Ansem Reports that the only report he had written was number zero thus proving there exists an Ansem Report number zero.
    I am currently talking of close examination of the Ansem Reports in Kingdom Hearts 2 and will look through Kingdom Hearts 1 Reports next.
    King Mickey appears on Radiant Garden to meet with the ruler to speak and they become friends and as the story goes Mickey had followed and was there for more than chit chat between him and Ansem The Wise but to deal with the problems and about what had been going on during the stories although the only thing he had done was talk to Ansem The Wise or that was all we had gotten to hear at least.
    In the third report he speaks of Xehanorts hypothesis of the door that appears out of darkness in his basement.
    The way I would see this as if not simple fantasy rpg game, Is that when he brings up the heart of a world that he means negative and positive reaction and going so far as to magick and alchemy.
    But otherwise it just works out as Kingdom Hearts or all the hearts of one world as he trys to create Kingdom Hearts but not exactly in the good way under certain circumstances and to harness it’s power for thyself and or thyselves when it comes to Xemnas and the org. it’s probably mainly to just get a heart.
    It may be that of the quote one sky,one destiny, I believe is to the destiny of all in a manner but also that these worlds could have been one and just seperated but i’m not sure, but the seperation isn’t too big of the importance right now.
    So they had searched for ways of making artificial hearts like cloning and such as in creatures against nature in some ways but they can still “be” if they really wanted to it’s just the thing if they are cloned it’s like making one of the same which probably could easily be taken care of.
    For some reason the organization had once moved headquarters to castle oblivion although they had all the capabilities to the lab and the radiant garden castle but instead they went there and it is there where they have the room of sleep,room of awakening and the chamber of rememberance.
    We come to a hall way with many doors with barred windows on each side and could be of interest.
    It seems that those with strong hearts may be able to use the corridors of darkness such as the org. under certain circumstances.
    So how Riku and King Mickey got out of kingdom Hearts after KH1 will be revealed sometime and it may have been either the simple keyblade or a corridor that had been used to go from one to another and we notice that there may be worlds of the same in the dark realm,light realm and inbetween but I think it’s either when the world is consumed by light or darkness to go there and things just simply need to be kept at balance, as said chaos and trouble had been brewing in Hollow Bastion and it had been nearly consumed by the darkness not that there is no light but it’s like they may have used artificial heartless while the regular just remain as is in Kingdom Hearts or just out there…
    As he said the names of his other five apprentices who went along with the darkness and that they have ceased to be human he says “…I too have lost everything.”
    Meaning him as well as someone or more than one have lost everything with him somehow.
    As he is in the realm of nothingness he begins to walk with darkness as a friend in use of it’s powers.
    So Xehanort had been trying to do something with Ansem The Wises existence sort of like what he did with the princesses and Kairi until they were saved and yet the whereabouts of Ansem the Wise remain somewhat unknown.
    Continued in Next Post.

17. on 07 May 2008 at 10:43 pm 17114. Stephen
    

    Does anyone in this whole game have a last name

18. on 07 May 2008 at 10:22 pm 17113. shadow15
    

    Before I continue my theory on the Ansem Reports, I would like to explain the nobody thing a bit better.
    When a person gets a nobody and that nobody as in soul is taken over by the darkness as in taken over by a heartless giving it a heart so that it can keep creating things like heartless and nobodies and may even get stronger over time.
    I believe that is how the Xehanort we see without his memory keeps a heart and has different but similar features of Terra.
    Now to continue about the Ansem Reports.
    We see Ansem Seeker of Darkness in Master Xehanorts clothes has that ever gotten to anybody yet it clearly shows something.
    We see that in the second report Ansem The Wise has a castle has anyone wondered where it’s from, Or why we see Kairi in a castle when she was younger in a flashback and that Ansem The Wise seems to be by himself as a ruler with a castle and is so enlightened about his world, when the darkness took it people had been seperated from the world and later Hollow Bastion is restored back to it’s origianl self as Radiant Garden.
    We also notice that Leon and Yuffie and Merlin and the rest of their supposed team have moved headquarters to Radiant Garden, Maybe something happened at Traverse Town that will need fixing.
    The six apprentices had gotten many test subjects for experimentation so it could be that some of the org. other than just the six apprentices had became nobodies by tests, Also there is something that people have been wondering about before as well and that how is there so many heartless?
    Well Ansem Seeker of Darkness had done some research and invented an artificial heartless machine, How is this possible people keep asking but it is very,very possible so who is to say that you can not do the same with nobodies so for all we know Axel could survive anyhow, but anyways it get’s even more interesting when you can examine the machine in Kingdom Hearts 1 and it says some interesting things about trying to get someone to come back to eternal darkness and so on.
    As Ansem The Wise searched through the basement of the castle he found what was called the “Ansem Reports” and he comments that they bore his name and that the only one he had written was number zero and that he had just continued to pen numbers and had simply written 1-8 himself already, though I don’t really get what he means by pen numbers considering they are just regular numbers what had he been planning to count by.
    The timeline of all this would have to be very near or the exact time of Birth By Sleep which I think will tell us about things further into the past.
    Something had sent Sora to Traverse Town and he was found asleep which was probably how Kairi was found on Destiny Islands when Xehanort sent her away for other reasons and not exactly to help her.
    As depicted in the manga I believe she was found asleep on Destiny Islands when she was ten or so but someone somehow erased her memory of the place.
    Xehanort taking his name during the reports probably may hav thought he was doing him a favor.
    continued in next post.

19. on 07 May 2008 at 9:56 pm 17112. Big
    

    Instead of this game being and RPG it should be a first person shooter

20. on 07 May 2008 at 9:38 pm 17111. shadow15
    

    Groundpounder124 and Neptune:There isn’t much you need to be acknowledged for, I will now explain.
    Okay so all you do is say that since his eyes change color and his hair is similar it must be Terra.
    Well guess what, Those features were obvious and brought up a long time ago, You guys should already know these things and especially after how much Tazimus has told you guys before.
    Duh, All six of Ansems apprentices became nobodies.
    You guys are saying that the nobodies do not exist at all, but they clearly exist and we can see them just fine.
    It was confirmed that the nobody is the body and soul of a person they call them nonexistant but it doesn’t really mean much, which was also confirmed.
    That’s like saying the Roxas theory doesn’t even matter as well, but it does.
    The nobody is an entity just without a heart, it keeps the body and soul while the heartless is just a body of darkness keeping the heart from the body after they are taken over by the darkness.
    It’s sort of like cloning, probably how Roxas was made and Namine too but that doesn’t matter cause they are still as one.
    The nobody feels the same just without the heart and could be cloned to keep a heart I believe.
    So as I said it is like cloning when a nobody gives in to the darkness and the heartless takes over it’s body it can make what is like the ds and make more beings of oneself, It probably can effect memory and such though but that part wouldn’t be too important.
    The reason that Xehanort who was found by Ansem The Wise has brown eyes because it’s just a cloned mixture, This also gives info. to what the meaning of “no heart” and “another” mean, The reason Xehanort is able to keep his body form as a heartless and have a nobody at the same time is because as he gave into darkness his nobody form was taken over by it making a dark xehanort who had changed features to the eyes hair and skin giving him another nobody Xemnas who in which had been created at the same time leaving Xemnas with longer hair similar skin and longer hair as is.
    Taking the name Xemnas from Ansem Seeker of Darkness who had more reason to taking the name than we think.
    He seeked his memory and was a volunteer in Ansem the Wises study and experimentation, So what type of experimentation was this exactly.(hint)
    The Ansem Reports in the first one he says that Radiant Garden had been nurtured by the pure water that is the source of life although we never see any water there at all.
    Xehanort kept learning things on the subject of these studies and soon came deeper and deeper into the darkness when he encounters something that we will probably see in future games.
    As remembered we see him at the secret place in KH1 in his org. coat.
    And we see Ansem the Seeker of darkness who is in Master Xehanorts clothes.
    Continued in next post…

21. on 07 May 2008 at 8:28 pm 17110. Groundpounder124
    

    Okay click on this link, the other was faulty.

22. on 07 May 2008 at 8:23 pm 17109. Groundpounder124
    

    I started that theory Terra becoming Xehanort, who became the fake Ansem. IT WAS ME! Can’t I at least be acknowledged of something.

    Any way click on my link! I found out that ALL SIX of Ansem the Wise’s apprentice’s have nobodies in the Orginization! It’s an official site, I’m pretty sure.

23. on 07 May 2008 at 8:07 pm 17108. KHfan
    

    personally, FFVIII is my favorite. i dont find it boring at all. X is extremely good too. ive only played VII once right at the beginning of the game, so i cant say much about that

    so, i might get some things wrong in this cause i havent played kh in awhile, but didnt ansem find xehanort without any memories of the past? this is kinda goin with what neptune said, but i think that terra took xehanorts name and thats why they have similar hair styles and yellow eyes. if this was stated already, sorry

24. on 07 May 2008 at 7:57 pm 17107. Groundpounder124
    

    Personally, I would like to see even more Final Fantasy VII. But I’m fine with some different characters too, whichever FF they come from.

    Oh and I meant to tell you all before. I won’t be commenting as much as I usually do. My left arm is in a cast so typing is difficult. I can still type okay, but I won’t be stating any thorough theories for a while.

    Oh and guess how I got into the dang cast in the first place? By pounding the ground outside my school! LMAO!

    I’m seriuos, though. That’s how I busted it.

25. on 07 May 2008 at 5:43 pm 17106. Diva19
    

    I saw a picture, an ingame picture, showing Kuja from Final Fantasy 9 while I was surfing around for screenshots of KH3. It’s about bloody time more FF9 characters make their appearances in the KH-series, so far only Vivi have been presented, poor little guy, he must be lonely without any of his original companions. Anyhow I KNOW that picture was from KH3, the graphics, the style, it screamed KH. I say get more FF9 characters in the story, how fun wouldn’t it be to fight Queen Brahne, or fight Beatrix and then get her to fight for you later in the game. It would have made my day, and other FF9-fans’ as well, FF9 is a highly misjudged game, and it’s actually more in tone with the original FF-style than FF7,8 and 10, though they too are great games FF9 have been left out in the shadow of FF7(In which is the FF-game that breaks most with the original style, of course FF 10 too breaks the original style but it’s so wellmade and thought through that it makes up for it. And FF8 was just boring, only cool thing there is Edea). But anyway I say bring more original FF- and Disney-characters in the KH-series and it would become so much better. And KH2 was way too short, too few places to explore.

26. on 07 May 2008 at 1:22 pm 17105. Sora_Darkside
    

    maybe the brain can split from the body, it could be a brainless! lol
    If sora and Kairi hook up, who will riku hook up with? He needs someone too, he went through so much in kh1 and 2 he cant just be lonely.

27. on 07 May 2008 at 11:22 am 17104. Big
    

    It would be funny if terra and xehnort were related

28. on 07 May 2008 at 10:36 am 17103. Groundpounder124
    

    Yes! A supporter of my thesis! It makes sense people.

29. on 07 May 2008 at 5:58 am 17102. neptune
    

    ok anyone who thinks a nobody or a heartless can split further, sorry but you’re wrong. remember people nobodys don’t exist, so if they don’t exist how can they split? and i don’t think a heartless can split further, nothings hinted to lead that on.

    i also think that Terra is Xehanort, his eyes turn yellow and they basicaly have the same hair if you look close (they have them different lenghts though). Terra porbably took master xehanorts name. thats just what i think

30. on 07 May 2008 at 3:07 am 17101. shadow15
    

    Also,Sora and Kairi are gonna hook up and there will be some problems though, not exactly between them but otherwise and so on…

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