Sora on 08 Feb 2006 01:37 pm
Rumours
Kingdom Hearts 3 rumours (that is just rumors for you American readers) and speculation are found here. Please note this is not factual information, but purely guess-work. We have no way of knowing whether or not this is true yet.
By forum user Mr. Tinkerbell & Locke:
WHAT WE KNOW
The three armored characters that are shown in the “Sunset Horizons/The Gathering” and “Birth by Sleep” secret trailers ARE NOT Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Similarly, the bald man is not Ansem/Xehanort or his Nobody/Heartless.
The names of the armoured characters are: Ven, the Roxas-like character who is frozen; Aqua, the knight with blue hair; and Terra, the largest of the knights and the one who’s face is revealed at the very end.
The Enigmatic Solider is, in fact, Terra, and is hinted to have some connection with Xehanort, though what that connection is, is current unknown. An interesting trend between them now is that they both look similar, and are ‘Enigmatic’ secret bosses.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
DENIED RUMORS
As hinted by Nomura, the story WILL NOT revolve around Sora, as he wants to leave Sora ‘on a break’ for now.
THERE HAS BEEN NO CONFIRMED BOX ART. The box art you see online bearing the name “Kingdom Hearts III” is not the real box art, as there are several flaws - there is no subtitle for Kingdom Hearts III and the side of the box actually has “Kingdom Hearts II” as it’s logo.
The next game will not be titled Kingdom Hearts 3.
The next game will not be on the Playstation 2, as Nomura has stated his last game for the PS2 was Final Mix +.
WHAT WE DON’T KNOW
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by “birth by sleep”.
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like “Finding Nemo” and “Toy Story” were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story - “Andy and/or Sid’s Room”
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles - “Nomanisan Island”
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn’t be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
“100 Acre Wood”
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it’s likely it will come back once again.
“Olympus Colisseum”
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World - “Sand World”
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
“Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden”
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it’s quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
“Destiny Islands”
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it’s almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it’s an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
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on 09 May 2008 at 8:17 am 17160. neptune
shadow15- ok i may have overexagerated with the no existing thing but you did say in 1 of your Theories “nobodys are from the realm of light” on the last page.
anyway any theories on the “chamber of sleep”?
and with the organizations real names i think saix’s origional name was “ais”
on 09 May 2008 at 3:11 am 17159. shadow15
Shadow:Could you give us a link to that video,please?
Just put the web address under website.
on 09 May 2008 at 2:45 am 17158. Shadow
I must say, I am finding much interest in this. By what i’ve seen, I cannot tell if it is true or not but its on Youtube (Search: Terra’s Final Form) That the level Disney castle is included and the 3 are actually the enemies of the game, which in the trailer would make the wizard the good guy. Most likely Merlin if you were to think on that scale but thats only a guess. Though some of it doesn’t make sense and thats a Japanese version. Was the Japaense version ever released?
Thats a bit fishy, but if that video proves to be true then thats some evidence from KH3.
And yes, it is based on the keyblade war which takes place later on from KH2.
on 09 May 2008 at 2:36 am 17157. shadow15
I’m going to answer your question, The organization names haven’t been brought up too often.All the names have been confirmed, You can find the six apprentice names of the org. in the ansem reports except they might have misspelled Xigbars name because they put bleig when there is no L,No E.
Axels real name is Ale which is Renos favorite drink considering they based Axel on Reno as confirmed in interviews.
Xehanorts name is a mystery and his nobody used the anagram of the name Ansem to be Xemnas.
Xehanort has been confirmed in a way to be “no heart” and “another.”
As for the others I don’t really remember.
on 09 May 2008 at 1:09 am 17156. Underdog10
How come we know the true names of some of the Organization, but not all of them?
on 09 May 2008 at 12:21 am 17155. shadow15
KHFan:That is an interesting topic to look on, but I thought the emblem just symbolized the power of the heartless, I also find it interesting that in some parts of these games we see hearts with x’s on them, It seems that it has been found on the heartless symbol before and i’m still not sure about the nobody symbol.Maybe it has to do with the whole x anagram thing cause there isn’t really much of a reason to change your name but as to some heartless don’t have any symbol and some do but just as nobodies some do and don’t as well.Regular nobodies must be the body left behind after a weaker hearted person it’s sort of weird cause it’s like an offspring with nobodies there are just similarities to them when they had a heartless, It changes their features just a little bit.When a heartless grows and get’s stronger I wonder if it keeps the others heart taken by darkness leaving their nobody so as the heartless keeps the heart until it is defeated by the keyblade may darkness and light seperate, I guess it’s sort of like going to heaven in a way except it’s like Kingdom Hearts.
on 09 May 2008 at 12:13 am 17154. Hannah
ah ok
on 09 May 2008 at 12:08 am 17153. Sam's Life Sux | L.o.D-TW Knight | Grim Reaper | Flaming Wolf Demon Assassin | Fire Dragon | Dead.
Hey Hannah, mostly people post on here to talk about KH.
on 09 May 2008 at 12:07 am 17152. KHfan
hey, i found a comment on youtube that pointed this out to me. i dont know if anyone else noticed this, cause i havent heard anything on it yet, but it looks like terra has the heartless symbol on his belt. its kinda hard to tell because the pictures are all kinda small, but if you look closely, it does look like the heartless symbol. just another thing to point towrds terra being xehanort
on 09 May 2008 at 12:06 am 17151. Hannah
isnt any1 here?
on 08 May 2008 at 11:59 pm 17150. Hannah
wow you guys post a lot lol
on 08 May 2008 at 11:19 pm 17149. Big
sorry for the duplicate
on 08 May 2008 at 11:18 pm 17148. Big
This is not an ANsem Report*
Big report:I am BIG.I have known info on the heartless. they are black . I think they don’t have a heart, why are these creatures living. Once Upon a time there were 3 lil’ pigs they went to the dollar store to buy a straw, sticks, and drugs. One pig made a house out of Straw, One pig made a house out of sticks, and one made a house of drugs. The BIg bad wolf came to town he went to the house of straw and blew the house down and killed the pig. The wolf went into the house of sticks, and the pig went into the basement of the house of sticks, pulled out a T-money gun shot the wolf open, the pig with the o=house of drug injected himself with too much herioen and died. SO the pig with the HOuse of sticks turned evil. He got too fat and the thing died so a Person Named Big fried it into porkchops and ate it while Typing this .
That is how heartless are first made
on 08 May 2008 at 11:17 pm 17147. Big
This is not an ANsem Report*
Big report:I am BIG.I have known info on the heartless. they are black . I think they don’t have a heart, why are these creatures living. Once Upon a time there were 3 lil’ pigs they went to the dollar store to buy a straw, sticks, and drugs. One pig made a house out of Straw, One pig made a house out of sticks, and one made a house of drugs. The BIg bad wolf came to town he went to the house of straw and blew the house down and killed the pig. The wolf went into the house of sticks, and the pig went into the basement of the house of sticks, pulled out a T-money gun shot the wolf open, the pig with the o=house of drug injected himself with too much herioen and died. SO the pig with the HOuse of sticks turned evil. He got too fat and the thing died so a Person Named Big fried it into porkchops and ate it while Typing this
on 08 May 2008 at 10:44 pm 17146. shadow15
When I said but otherwise some people may be able to understand it I meant that they might be able to understand it better the way it currently is now.
on 08 May 2008 at 10:42 pm 17145. shadow15
Groundpounder124:I wouldn’t cuss you out for that and I will admit I really need to work on my grammar but if you focused enough over it and maybe look at the kh2 reports and such as you go you may start to understand it better that was a theory I made over analyzing the reports, So as I was doing that I was to look over the reports once in a while on tabs.I might even be able to write it better later if needed but otherwise some people might be able to understand it. The enter thing after every sentence is just what i’m used to because it never really bothered me but I can fix that later and so on…And it’s okay to just let me know about that, I was just trying let people know as well and if they wanted to they could correct me if needed and so on…It’s basic conversation on these boards. Sorry I didn’t get this in my last post but I just started at Neptune and went from that comment to the other as they went when I was gone. I will discuss more with you guys later.
on 08 May 2008 at 10:27 pm 17144. shadow15
Ok Neptune:
You have no proof whatsoever and you misunderstood my theory.
First of all, I never said nobodies are from the realm of light.
It doesn’t really matter that Diz tells Roxas he resides in darkness or not, Roxas was created of Sora as well as Kairi and Namine is from the realm of light as clearly said by Ansem The Wise in his reports.
Just because Roxas may reside in darkness doesn’t mean anything and at that time Diz was out for revenge.
In their conversations when they say they don’t exist means nothing, like I said it was confirmed in an interview, If they don’t exist they would never be, You would not see them they wouldn’t be solid, That’s like saying they are imaginary in a way, Which I doubt.
What you’re saying is like saying the body and soul of the nobodies complete self never existed because the nobody is the body and soul of a person.
When a heart is unlocked the body,soul and heart seperate as in a heartless is created and keeps the heart while the nobody keeps the body and the soul making it clear that the nobody exists but they have no heart, When Xaldin says when Kingdom Hearts is ours we can live fully and completely he means to get a heart so they can be complete so what he was saying when he talked about fully existing was to get a heart, the fact that he says in benefit of kingdom hearts he would “exist fully” meaning they do exist but not completely which means they are probably trying to save their butts as nobodies to get a heart and become fully living.
Although it wouldn’t matter that much since for some reason they were able to keep their human bodies as nobodies but they can still feel and remember what it was like to feel when they had a heart but that doesn’t mean they have one as body and soul, the soul would pertain to the heart as the brain holds memory and control over the body meaning the heart just seperated when the darkness took it and made a being their heartless as their heartless have the urge to get more hearts and become stronger.
So basically if a nobody is obviously residing in darkness and has no heart, if they got a heart from a heartless which kingdom hearts is made up of they may get a heart and split further like the ds.
It goes like how Xehanort was created keeping his body as a heartless making Xemnas another of him because he wasn’t taken by the light or in between but a darker power making him like a heartless rather than staying as a whole person made up of light and darkness or made up of light more like Kairi and Namine and the similarities between Terra and Xehanort have shown through Xehanort to Xemnas clearly showing proof to my theory as it corrects what you just said.
Namine is different she can control the memories of the people she is in relation to and came from the realm of light because Kairi is a princess of heart and is of pure light, but who knows maybe there is a being of pure darkness of the heart for the dark realm entirely.
The nobody is the inbetween being meaning they aren’t good and they aren’t bad.
It’s like resurrecting and in some cases cloning under some parts of the story.
When Xehanort was taken by the darkness he had a nobody created at the same time and it was Xemnas Xemnas is the body soul of Master Xehanort and Terra combined but it’s not like they actually conjoined but they created another person and discovered a way to give him a heart of someone, I believe it was Master Xehanorts and he as well had a strong heart, The keychain to the keyblade shows and symbolizes importance to this part considering a keyblade without it’s keychain is just a weapon.
Sora used the darkness to unlock his heart to let Kairi out and thus over Soras free will was able to keep his free will and at the same time create Roxas who is another of Ven sort of like with Xehanort except I don’t really think Roxas had a heart but didn’t see it as a big deal because he is Sora and has his memory and everything, Roxas could weild a keyblade because he was a chosen one like Ven, but from Vens past i’m not sure how he obtained the keyblade because the keyblade is just a weapon/key made for use of the keychain to unlock such things as said almost anything, like I said it’s a science except in an rpg fantasy, negative is like darkness and positive is like light and we need both.
Also, If the org. is so hard on the fact that they don’t exist they could just be artificial nobodies given feelings so it’s like when they die they’ll just go back and be normal nobodies or something, cause it’s just as well possible to create artificial heartless of their hearts as it is to make artificial and pureblood nobodies.
The heartless are mindless due to the brain going to the nobody and just seek what their instincts tell them to, Within darkness there is a light.
When an artificial heartless is made has anyone ever thought that a nobody would be made again as well because in order for that there has to be a heart they can’t just make them fake and pure blood like that without the correct experiments and such.
In real life they have discovered ways to clone people and animals and living things like that but i’m pretty sure on a scientific scale they would need some sort of dna.
It’s very interesting and there’s probably so much to say on thy subject but i’ll just leave it at this explaining and correcting you, although I did add a little to the explanation but that also goes down in my theory.
And so on…
Any questions, please ask.
on 08 May 2008 at 10:18 pm 17143. Groundpounder124
You know, I wish they would release a game that was like KH, but only with FF and new characters. Not I hate Disney or anything, but it could be the KH for he older croud of fans. What’s partly made KH famous is its every age friendliness and it’s still a great game! But it would be awesome if they made one for the older age group like us teens alone. I think that would be a nice, enjoyable game for the older fans.
As for the whole Kairi and Sora thing, it would be… entertaining.
Lol. What can I say? I like a little, not too much, romance in a story.
And shadow15: I really have difficulty reading your posts. You use too many pronouns(I AM NOT A GRAMMAR PERFECTIONIST) so that I can’t understand who you’re talking about. Also please stop pressing enter after each sentence is done. It’s hard to follow the sentences. I’m sorry, and if you want to go ahead and cuss me out. I was just letting you know.
on 08 May 2008 at 8:55 pm 17142. KHfan
and no i didnt get to zanarkand yet. im not very far in X haha. i actually forget where i am, i havent played it in awhile
on 08 May 2008 at 8:53 pm 17141. KHfan
diva, i actually did suspect he died because of kh2. haha, i just wasnt sure. its ok, this isnt the first time this has happened to me ^_^
on 08 May 2008 at 8:29 pm 17140. Big
It would be funny if SOra was going out with Kairi then SOra was cheating on her then SOra broke up with her like 1 hour after they were goin out. Then Kairi Ran over so in the Tron level
on 08 May 2008 at 8:26 pm 17139. Big
In Chian of Memories we tak out like half of the Organization so in KH2 we have half of the work cut out for us which i think is nessecarily a bad thing because of less boss fights.
Tazimus Where are you
on 08 May 2008 at 8:13 pm 17138. Diva19
A little hint KHfan, in KH2 why do you think Auron was in the underworld, the mother of all bad guys, what better way to tell the world Auron’s coming. Auron’s the best, well after Lulu. Lulu’s tragic past really explains that hard shell she closes herself in, though she opens up more throughout the game, actually all FF10 characters have traits that anyone can relate to, a wondrous game.
on 08 May 2008 at 8:09 pm 17137. Diva19
Awww, sorry about that KHfan. But you’ll see when you get to Zanarkand. You gotten to Mt.Gagazet yet? Seymoure was wicked fun to beat, though you get a bit tired of it after the first two times…sorry if I said to much.
I agree about organization 13, they do tend to sanctify their means of getting it their way. And that was in the end what destroyed them. That constant powerhunger within the organization itself.
on 08 May 2008 at 8:00 pm 17136. KHfan
DIVA!!! did you have to say auron died in FFX? I DIDNT FINISH THE GAME YET!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! PLEASE DONT SAY ANYTHING ELSE!!!!
on 08 May 2008 at 7:28 pm 17135. Underdog10
Well, now that I think about it though, the Organization DOES do evil things in order to get what they want. True, their ending desire is not bad, but they were causing chaos in the other worlds.
Things like trying to turn Beast into a Heartless and steal his rose.
So, no their goal was not evil, but they had to DO evil in order to achieve it.
on 08 May 2008 at 7:16 pm 17134. pizzanerd
will kingdom hearts 3 be on the 360 as well?
on 08 May 2008 at 5:57 pm 17133. happybunny
have i talked to u before?
on 08 May 2008 at 5:56 pm 17132. happybunny
hi jose
on 08 May 2008 at 5:03 pm 17131. jose
hi!