Riku on 14 May 2007 03:13 am

Scenario Mysteries Interview

TheWertle has struck again! This time with an excellent interview with Tetsuya Nomura from Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ Ultimania called “Scenario Mysteries”, in which he confirms the Enigmatic Soldier’s name as Terra!

In Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+, many mysteries are answered but many new mysteries are also born.

In this version, things relating to additional scenes are included, but during the story there are some questions that pop up, so we’ll see if Nomura can point us in the right direction.

Question: In the original Kingdom Hearts, the King searches for a Keyblade in the Realm of Darkness, but when he meets Ansem the Wise, is the Realm of Light Keyblade he has the one that Sora is currently using?

Nomura: No. The King has the ability to use Keyblades from both the Realms of Darkness and of Light. This is an important point - There isn’t just one Keyblade from each world, but just as many as there are people with qualified hearts.

Question: During the meetings, the members of Organization XIII are sitting in chairs. Is the height of these chairs determined by things like their skills and abilities?

Nomura: No. The height of the chairs is not fixated - They move. That is to say that the height is up to each person. The leader, Xemnas, is always the highest, and to be at the same height as him would give that member a pretty bad feeling, so the other members wouldn’t do that. *Laughs*

Question: At the end of Sora and Riku’s stories in Re: Chain of Memories, Roxas looks back while Hayner and the rest are walking and eating ice-cream, and without seeming to care, Hayner and the others continue walking. Is this because they can’t see Roxas?

Nomura: Well it’s just because they don’t know Roxas that they don’t notice him, not because they can’t see him. At that time, right after Xemnas explains Roxas’ name, Axel says to leave things to him. Then, Roxas seems jealous of how Hayner and the others are enjoying themselves while eating ice-cream, and Axel interprets this as him wanting some ice-cream, so he is obliged to go buy him some.

Question: In the real Twilight Town, didn’t Roxas cross paths with Hayner and the others and make aquaintances with them?

Nomura: I suppose. You can think whatever you want about that.

Question: What triggered Roxas’ separation from the Organization?

Nomura: As he kept having recurring dreams of Sora, someone he didn’t know, he felt he needed to leave the Organization to find out who these people he didn’t know were. As Axel didn’t want him to go, he didn’t tell Sora about Roxas in Castle Oblivion, did he?

Question: In Riku’s ending in Re: Chain of Memories, could you tell us the meaning of the scene where the King and Riku are walking together and Riku suddenly plops down.

Nomura: That’s because Riku realized he couldn’t completely get rid of the Darkness inside of him. The King mentioned in Kingdom Hearts II that as Riku held Xehanort’s Heartless in his heart, he disappeared from the King’s sight. It’s a sort of foreshadowing. In this scene, the King’s face looks worried for a moment because he felt that Riku might eventually no longer be there. Riku headed towards DiZ in order to restore Sora’s memories to normal, but in the end, his departure from the King was so that he wouldn’t show his preparations to use the Darkness.

Question: Could you tell us at what point Riku covered his eyes?

Nomura: When he departed from the King. You don’t know after the scene, but in Riku’s ending in Re: Chain of Memories, when he comes to wherever DiZ is, he’s already covered his eyes.

Question: Please confirm some things about Castle Oblivion. In the additional event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, you can gather from Xigbar and Zexion’s conversation that Castle Oblivion existed in the Inbetween Realm before the birth of the Organization. The Organization then found it and used it for experiments about memories and to look for the Chamber of Awakening, right?

Nomura: Yes. Since their conversation was about Marluxia’s entry, they discovered the Castle before that. In fact, its use, according to Secret Ansem Report 7, was for only 13 Organization Members. Naminé awoke in Castle Oblivion, but as she and Roxas were born at the same time, half of the Organization moved to the Castle.

Question: In the additional event “To Put an End to Everything”, Sora says “It should have been easy to say thanks to Naminé, but I couldn’t say it”. At this point in time, does Sora remember the things that happened with Naminé?

Nomura: If he remembers, it’s because Naminé’s existence was made possible by Sora, and when Naminé and Roxas return to Kairi and Sora, many things were connected. Since Sora never got to say thanks to Naminé, please think of that as a hint.

Question: In the additional event “Farewell to a Friend”, there’s a scene where Axel tells Roxas “You really do have a heart, don’t you”. What is the actual case here?

Nomura: In this scene, it ends bringing up more mysteries about Roxas, so for the answer, maybe take care to follow your hunches well. It’s also related to Xehanort’s memories, but I can’t give any specifics now.

Question: We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?

Nomura: Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.

Question: The Lingering Sentiment (Enigmatic Soldier) is the same as the armored youth in the movie, but when he fights Sora he mentions “Aqua” and “Ven”. Are those the names of the other 2?

Nomura: Yes, the blue haired girl is Aqua.

Question: What is the armored youth’s name?

Nomura: His name appeared once in code in the 2006 Tokyo Game Show Promotional Video. Also, Ven is actually a nickname, but his real name is a little bit longer. Sora, Riku, and Kairi’s names can be seen as “Sky, Land, and Sea” respectively. The 3 armored people’s names take the shape of different properties of the world, “Water, Wind, and Earth”.

Statement: Ven looks an awful lot like Roxas…

Nomura: I can’t give any specifics about that. He may just resemble him, and if there is a connection, Sora may be related too. What I can say right now is that these mysteries are all connected to the story.

Question: In the beginning, the armored youth’s eyes are blue, but at the end they change to gold. Is this revealing a change in him?

Nomura: I can’t give specifics about this either… I think everyone’s imaginations are pretty capable so please try and anticipate a lot of things.

Translated by TheWertle. I edited and corrected spelling and grammar.

• In the photo below, it shows a screenshot of the code that flowed across the screen for a moment during the Promotional Video at the Tokyo Game Show 2006. It has been decoded as:

“Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.”

“Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.”

Terra
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1,666 Responses to “Scenario Mysteries Interview”

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1. on 25 Jul 2007 at 7:48 am 1201. Daylight
   

   yeah over the egde, over doing, its these cararters that are so new, and we only know their names.. im just suprised you guys came up with so much.

2. on 25 Jul 2007 at 7:53 am 1202. Daylight
   

   i gess its lucky i dont live with my perants anymore lol so i play all i want. if i didnt have to work, id be chilling out playing Khs at home right now.
   as of now all i am is annoyed with the fact, this video with the 3 knights is meant to a side story, sent to come out on the psp or DS, and i really didnt want that, it just looked ot good for them to do that.

   if it is a side story, make it a proper game, for ps3, if they gona make it for psp, may as well releace it for ps2 then.

   like they made CoM for SP or whatever that crapy gameboy was, then they decided lets remake for ps2, and lets not releace it in USA/EU/Australia… how much more torture can i take!?

3. on 25 Jul 2007 at 7:57 am 1203. Shadow
   

   Well it seems that all we have done on here is tried to figure out the connection and make theories on the game and it leads to more of the storyline it seems.
   I wouldnt say videogames are a waste of time they are quite fun i wouldnt say educating very much with videogames but hey i would suppose educations important it depends if you play them too long it may seem over the edge and mean you should take a break if you play them too long.

4. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:04 am 1204. Shadow
   

   I would highly suggest they at least put a side story of it for PSP though i dont have one i hear they are pretty good like playstation 2 but portable is what i heard but a lot of people really want the 3rd game for ps2 they should at least put the side story on ps2 and Wii so Nintendo gets fair business.

5. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:05 am 1205. Daylight
   

   aparantly it has come out to the public that video games are beeing used to educate children, to rdy them for future life xperience, since RPGs actualy put you in some sort of state of emotion, since your making the story hpn.

   Like when Sora sacrifises him self for Kairis heart, ok, not the best example, but… the good intention.

6. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:07 am 1206. Daylight
   

   yeah side story all good… but Kh3 best be on its way to PS3 lol after i saw does secret videos, i was like wow. So im xpecting something amazing… and i come to hear about portable side story… i think they could do better.

7. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:09 am 1207. Shadow
   

   Well i would seem to have thought that a long time ago but wasnt very sure i thought that if the story is so good its educating and speculating on the game especially as much as i have would be educating i have looked in the dictionary a lot and online dictionaryies and such and seem to be learning other words too.

8. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:19 am 1208. Daylight
   

   all i want is to see.. kingdom Hearts with PS3 graphicks and colours. il be stuck to my HD tv.

   KH2 was really good.. music and image.. very viewable. After does 2 secret Videos came out i was well happy.

   Same for FF13, you have one look at it.. and you know they putting efort in to it. Looks amazing, just like FFx when it 1st came out.

   I just want Square to make ne proud lol

9. on 25 Jul 2007 at 8:46 am 1209. Ace of Diamonds
   

   Well, Daylight, I’m not holding any offense to you. Your entitled to your opinion. It doesn’t hurt to come on this board and make theories about what the next game is about. Shadow and I are on here literally all the time making new theories. Besides, there are more to know about the new characters than you think.

   Now, I think Kairi was supposed to get the Keyblade. Remember, Terra, Aqua, and Ven have a connection element wise with Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Sora means Sky, Ven means Wind. Kairi means Sea, Aqua means Water. Terra means Land, Riku means Earth. They each passed on their Keyblades to Sora, Riku, and Kairi specifically. The Kingdom Key was meant to go to Riku, but at that time, Riku had given in to Darkness and Kairi had already lost her heart. So, Sora’s Heart was the strongest at the time, and received The Kingdom Key. Now, what Riku went through was supposed to be Sora’s Adventure, but Riku going to the Dark Side made him lose sight of his Light, but he eventually found a way to turn Darkness into his own weapon, and began to weild The Way to Dawn. Kairi was supposed to receive the Inverse Kingdom Key, but since she lost her heart, and didn’t gain consciousness until the game’s Climax, she never had a chance to get her own Keyblade. Why she would weild the Dark Realm’s Keyblade and is a Princess of Heart is a mystery.

   Yeah, so, I’m big on the Side-Story getting released on the PSP. I don’t really want to but a PSP just for that game, same way I didn’t want to buy a Game Boy Advance just to get Chain of Memories. I’ll tell you, they better lower the price of this PS3 to about 2-300. By the time Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out, It’ll be around 200. I’m defintely getting Final Fantasy XIII. That game looks so wicked awesome.

10. on 25 Jul 2007 at 5:32 pm 1210. Shadow
    

    I would say the reason kairi would get it is because she is a princess of heart and you know how Riku and Sora can already wield the dark and light well maybe since her spirit was passed on to kairi it did not happen because shes of pure light but Aqua is not but it still went to the next best thing king mickey when he found it in the realm of darkness.

    Well xehanort lost his heart in the realm of darkness meaning his heart could have been seperated to Roxas and Riku took his form so then after Ansem the wise used that machine to get all the hearts out it blew up and Riku got his original form back so i think that it is unknown where Ansem the Wise is but i know that he could have just been a computer simulation because remember in twilight town when there was all these Vivi clones well they were able to attack and most likely touch and move things too,So what if Ansem the Wise is still at the org. headquarters where he had been undercover for revenge when he had taken Ansems form and so maybe he was in the realm of darkness and also took Ansems form and was then unable to once you notice Riku taking the different form so then that may have something to do with how Ven got his heart back so When Ansem the Wise was able to take his form back for some unknown reason Riku formed back.So did Riku take Ansem form or was it just Xemnas.As we all know they are one and the same.
    So then Mickey found the keyblade and opened the door to the light so thats possibly how he got out but he had to have taken someones form cause he had the org. coat what if Mickey got a nobody,I dunnoe.
    So Aqua had her heart somewhere else and she had her spirit passed to kairi but wheres her heartless now?

11. on 26 Jul 2007 at 4:52 am 1211. Shadow
    

    Hey maybe kh3 is going to be out quite a few months after summer in 08 because in an interview it seemed like he meant he was going to say the name of the side story at the end of summer so maybe the side story will come out and there will also be a lot of information of kh3 at tgs.

12. on 26 Jul 2007 at 4:59 am 1212. Ace of Diamonds
    

    All those ViVi clones were created by Ansem the Wise. Remember, the Twilight Town Roxas was living in was a Data Version of the real town created just for him to live out his days until Sora regained all his memories and woke up from his deep slumber. The Ansem the Wise that was in The World That Never Was couldn’t have been a Data Version. Remember? He was attacked by all those Nobodies, and King Mickey had to save him. They would’ve just gone through him if he was a Hologram like when Roxas tried to attack Ansem the Wise knowing he was being watched and that the life he had wasn’t real and the Keyblade Attacks went right through him. I don’t know but I just don’t think Ansem the Wise is dead. He was far too important of a character to be killed off so early. I don’t know how, but he’s still alive.

    King Mickey and Riku had The Organization Coats to infiltrate their compound and take down their leader after what they did to his friend Ansem the Wise. King Mickey and Ansem had to have met before all this. In that flashback, Xehanort was still his normal self. I guess after Ansem told him to cease his experiments, his heart slowly began to regain the Darkness within causing all the events so far, so the next time King Mickey actually Ansem the Wise was in the Dark Realm, and with the Coats, King Mickey and Riku were able to infiltrate their compound. With King Mickey busy trying to find Xehanort, Riku fought Roxas in order to bring him to Ansem the Wise to help Sora wake up. I still would also like to know what happened after Kingdom Hearts 1 with Mickey and Riku. We never really saw how they escaped the Realm of Darkness.

13. on 26 Jul 2007 at 5:01 am 1213. Ace of Diamonds
    

    I’m thinking the Side Story will be out by Next Summer and I read in an interview a long time ago that a Kingdom Hearts 3 release won’t be until late 2009, or something. PS3 is a different console than the PS2 Graphic Wise. The Game Creaters need to learn about the PS3 and get used to its graphics and establish a new Battle System. It could take a while for KH3 to come out.

14. on 26 Jul 2007 at 6:11 am 1214. Daylight
    

    i still say that in order to get that dark realm Kingdom key, you would need to go thru some quest, see if your looking at the secret video and assuming that video is the past, and a past before Sora ever got his own keyblade, Mikey oredy is wielding one by then, this case the “star seeker” So it would not be that he was choisen to have a keyblade, since he oredy had one,.. i think he had to willingly want it. Whos to say that a dark keyblade wount have influence in one’s heart, and pull it to darkness? Has for the light KB, it had to be “given” to someone pure of heart, imagine if Sora ended up with the dark realm KB to start with, and he a boy of 15 had to do Mickeys journey instead? what ever it may have been, but i hope what they have to show us is dark

15. on 26 Jul 2007 at 6:12 am 1215. Daylight
    

    i hope they dont change the batle system to much, just make it smoother, like more real time movements, leading to proper fantasy style batle.. where ever like 3 mnts you go ” woooooo that looked amazing”

16. on 26 Jul 2007 at 5:14 pm 1216. Shadow
    

    Ace,Well how exactly was it that Ansem the Wise was banished there?
    If you remember what interview was it that said it wouldnt come out till 09?
    So i wonder if the tokyo game show will have big news on the side story or kh3 or both.
    Well i guess they are either really busy and kh3 would have to be really really good to take that long to make cause they have made a few ps3 games already but i dont think square enix has have they?
    cause you know it didnt take other game makers that long to figure it out.

    Well,Why was the Diz name made by Darkness in Zero,So i would suppose he was banished to the dark realm,so he only wrote report zero,now really think about this one if Xehanort(ansem) only wrote 1-8 how did he write twelve?

17. on 26 Jul 2007 at 5:29 pm 1217. Shadow
    

    Hey i think they have dropped 100$ off the ps3 cause i found one for $500.
    In final mix secret ending it seems like the bald guy is taller than the dark soldier.
    So the bald guys heartless wielded a keyblade so that means the bald guy must have had two hearts in use to do that.

18. on 26 Jul 2007 at 5:52 pm 1218. Shadow
    

    Xigbar is the oldest of the org. isnt he then what if he was the first apprentice of Ansem the Wise so we notice that the first six of the org. were his apprentices,so there must be a way to figure out what order it went in maybe braig was the first and then it was xehanort and then the other 4 what i am wondering is how Axel was found i mean wheres he from i wonder.

19. on 26 Jul 2007 at 9:36 pm 1219. Ace of Diamonds
    

    Shadow, it also says in Ansem the Wise’s Reports that he spent a long time after being banished in the Realm of Nothingness. I’m gonna hint that Xehanort changed his apprentices and since he knew Ansem the Wise would cause problems, he banished him away to the Realm of Darkness. At least, that’s my opinion.

    Diz chose the name Darkness in Zero because he was trapped in the Realm of Darkness, here’s a quote from his reports, “Here, in the realm of nothingness to which I have been relegated. Darkness in the midst of nothing. “Darkness in Zero.” Thus I shall be known as DiZ. Discarding the stolen name “Ansem”! And going in search of revenge.”

    Xigbar is the eldest of the Organization. I would say it goes in age group, but besides Xigbar, Zexion, Demyx, Axel, and Luxord, it’s hard to tell how old everybody else is.

    I would say it’d take a while to make because since PS3 is a Next-Gen console, they want to make the graphics Pixel Perfect. They want to tuse the PS3 to it’s full extent. KH3 won’t let us down. I just can’t wait until September to know more info on this game. About that interview on when the game comes out, I couldn’t find it, click my name. It’ll take to the site where I found it. Don’t bother with the info, it’s all OLD stuff that we already know.

20. on 26 Jul 2007 at 11:36 pm 1220. Shadow
    

    Ace,Was it said by Nomura that it may not be til 2009?

21. on 27 Jul 2007 at 12:00 am 1221. Shadow
    

    Ace,Hey well Xehanort was just said his name but we dont know if its an anagram of thonare or not its an anagram of X and no heart and another and if he is another and no heart he would be a nobody now what if the no heart thing meant his heartless but the bald guy seemed to already have a heartless and then was reborn through terra now what if that bald guy was reborn Xehanort from the future and just did that to change time cause if there was a kingdom hearts then how did he come to get a machine that creates them i dont think you can make artificial heartless cause then it would be a fake kingdom hearts.
    Im not sure about this.

22. on 27 Jul 2007 at 12:30 am 1222. Shadow
    

    Well it seems interesting that Kairi seems to be from Radiant Garden and her grandmother speaks of a story of the keyblade war i mean how would she know it seems to me that when heartless came to attack Radiant Garden they were somehow sent to that island it seems that when that happened it was changed to Hollow Bastion and also Merlin was from Traverse Town his house was there but hwos to say it was originally his he could have been originally from the sword in the stone world Merlin said how the world got that dreadful name he will never now.
    When Sora was put to sleep everyone forgot about him maybe there was some unknown effect cause you know how certain characters such as Sora and Roxas and Xehanort had lost their memory.
    I believe heartless had appeared and for some reason Xehanort ended up there now it could still be that hes a new form of some bald guy through Terra that ended up there you notice that when Terra fought Sora it seemed like he was just waking up he may not have aged either had he?
    Cause that would seem quite odd and also if the bald guy did go back in time that might be how his heartless held a keyblade such as the bald guy.The dark soldier had a helmet and supposedly armor now it just might be that it was Axel heartless instead because i believe Axels original self was the fourth knight and eventually the heartless was defeated and also somehow made Axel hwo was supposedly still in his Armor and when Axel was found he may have been in the place of the gathering or some other unknown place.
    Well were not for sure if the dark soldier is dead either.
    In that image i found with the reflection of a hwole different knight the head part seemed similar to that of knight Xemnas.
    So this is quite confusing.

23. on 27 Jul 2007 at 12:41 am 1223. Shadow
    

    Xemnas did not remember what it was like to have a heart well that seems strange cause he cannot be a nobody of Ansem when he had no heart so i would say he is the nobody of Xehanort because Xehanort just lost his heart and then if Xemnas is the nobody of Xehanort then Xemnas is the body of Xehanort and not Ansem but now that Xemnas was the form of Xehanort hwo lost his heart that means that since Xehanort was supposed to be a nobody the heart went to an unknown place such as Ven or something so that means Xemnas would be Ansems body but what of Xehanorts heart which wasnt his to begin with maybe it was passed on to Riku and Riku got the keyblade for his path and so on.
    Any thoughts i am starting to get confused.

24. on 27 Jul 2007 at 12:46 am 1224. Ace of Diamonds
    

    I just heard about it as a rumor. I don’t when it’ll actually be out. I just read on that site about a few months after Kingdom Hearts 2 came out.

    In the fake Ansem Reports, he talked about creating a machine that creates Artificial Heartless. He said that he picked one out for observation. I found the report that explains it better:

    “There is no doubt that the Heartless are deeply connected to the people’s hearts. Further study may unravel both their motivations and the mysteries shrouding the heart. As a start, I have built a device that artificially creates Heartless.

    By recreating the conditions that spawn the Heartless naturally, I should be able to produce them artificially. This device is the culmination of all my research thus far. The machine’s test run successfully created a Heartless. This may be a step toward creating a heart from nothing.

    The artificially and naturally created Heartless showed nearly identical traits. But the two types remain distinct for the purpose of the experiment. So, I will mark the ones that are created artificially.”

25. on 27 Jul 2007 at 1:02 am 1225. Ace of Diamonds
    

    Hold Up, I just found something. The quote above,”Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra. Not yet awakened, his connected to those two, translated in Latin means this:

    “Vinco Xehanort’s Vindex , suus nomen est Atrox. Nondum suscitatio , sit iunctus illis duos.”

    And when it’s translated back. Even this freaked me out.

    “Conquer Xehanort’s Avenger , his name is Savage. Not yet rekindling , he is united by these two.”

    I looked up Terra in Latin and it means “Atrox”, or Cruel, Savage, Horrible, etc. Take that for what it’s worth.

    Allright, before I get to Shadow, I got a question. If anybody played Kingdom Hearts 1 on Expert Mode, I heard from a friend that if you play Expert Mode and beat 999 of ALL Heartless, you get a 10 Minute Secret Ending. Is that true? He’s just now telling me this, and he mentioned something about “The Key of Light”. A Keyblade you get after you synthesize all items 30 Times and restores your HP when ever you get hit. I don’t know whether or not to believe because this is the same friend that told me that his japenese friend already played KH3 and beat in One Day.

    Ok, Shadow. I’m not too high on Xehanort as a Nobody. The “X” in his name is mere coincidence. Namine has killed the notion of Nobodies only having X’s in their names. Besides, if Xehanort was a Nobody, how could he produce Xemnas? You need a Heart to do that. When Ansem was destroyed, I guess his heart returned to Xehanort’s Body. If the Nobody is destroyed before the Heartless, then that person’s life ceases to be. Because the heart taken from a Heartless could be returned to its owner, not if there’s no body for the Heart to return to. Unlike Xehanort, the other founding members of the Organization couldn’t retain Human Form after becoming Nobodies. According to Nomura, Kairi’s Grandmother’s Story was a Bedtime Story and nothing more.

26. on 27 Jul 2007 at 2:46 am 1226. Shadow
    

    Ace,I think hwoever told you about that is true.
    So if Terra is Atrox then it must mean he is supposedly savage.
    cause Atrox means terrible,cruel and horror like you said,so i think it means to conquer master Xehanort and i would suppose it means terra is terrible,but i am not sure about that one i mean he is expected to be a good guy and all he did wield kingdom key of light.
    Also the no heart without the X thing what would that mean Xemnas didnt remember what it was like to have one?
    Well also if Xehanort was a nobody he would be able to make Xemnas because Xehanort obviously had a heart to begin with but then when he went in the realm of darkness he became a heartless then Ansem was defeated and Xemnas was also made somehow…

27. on 27 Jul 2007 at 4:23 am 1227. Ace of Diamonds
    

    Shadow, I think you misunderstood. He said it was just a Blade of Pure Light. It has no shape, it’s just Light, and it restores your HP whenever you get hit. Has anybody even heard of that kind of keyblade? I don’t even think a 10 Minute Secret Ending even exists in any of the Kingdom Hearts games that have been released. If anybody has info let me know because I don’t believe it.

    Anyway, Xemnas had to have been made after Ansem was, if not at the same time. If Xemnas was created after Ansem, the heart that was set free had to have gone back to Xehanort/Xemnas’ Vacant Body. Xehanort never mentioned going to the Realm of Darkness. Oh! Remember, Xehanort cast his body away into Darkness in order to find Sora and turned himself into a Heartless. His body was too fragile so he needed a Human Vessel while he could regain his strength, and Riku was the perfect substitute. Nobodies don’t have Hearts, yet Axel had feelings of sadness knowing he’d never see Roxas again. Roxas is another story entirely. Without the the bodies, when the Nobodies Heartless’ were defeated, that’d be it for them. Yet, we don’t know where their Heartless are. My guess is that they’re in that Underground Lab in Radiant Garden. I just looked that stuff about Terra on curiousity. His transformation when his eyes turned yellow/orange made him evil under the powers of Darkness. Then again, that’s just my opinion. I gotta sleep on this and give it some more time.

28. on 27 Jul 2007 at 6:33 am 1228. Shadow
    

    Ace,Yes i guess i did misunderstand and well i agree with the Xehanort and Xemnas thing but i was told that Xehanort would become the nobody and yes i see he did but they seem to each be different and what i meant with Xemnas and no heart is that he did not have one and couldnt remember what it was like to have one because maybe the heart went somewhere else.
    So he chose Riku but eventually failed and was defeated and that had supposedly passed on the Way to The Dawn but what of Roxas he got soras keyblade though he may not have a heart?
    Well it seems that each former self character such as Roxas and Namine have the same meaning to their names so since Terra goes with Riku then that could mean Xehanort.
    So anyways Kairi may be from Radiant Garden but we dont know much about her parents did she say anything about memory of them or anything,okay so everyone forgot about Sora when he went to sleep right what if Kairi is princess of radiant garden you notice that Ansem the Wise was known as the Ruler of that place which seems interesting.

    Why was Saix treated like #2 in the crew you know Xigbar is.

    Xemnas had been wondering of Xehanort it seems in an old friend scene why was he talking to Ansem if he is the leader they are one and the same Xemnas called him Master Ansem but what would his real name have been it seems he did not want the name Xehanort any longer.

    I think that the heartless of Xehanort had not had a heartless still with a heart cause in order to be reborn through Terra he needed to rid of his own heart and get a new one such as his own heartless heart but you know that he used Vens instead and then he took Xehanort as a name for an unknown reason its the only thing he remembered and then dark got to him once again and he had used the heartless form to take control over Riku which had passed the Way to The Dawn to him and Terra was passed on to Sora which had went to Ven and then his heart had returned but the keyblade was already passed to Riku.

    Hey when you beat Saix in TWTNW doesnt Riku in the other form say something like you dont need my Soul Eater YET?Or something like that.

29. on 27 Jul 2007 at 6:44 am 1229. Daylight
    

    Another thing you guys…

    I think that the red armored guy that fights beside the bald old dude in the secret video, is not the old man’s Heartless. Mainly for the fact that he does wield a keyblade, since in all khs history so far, everyone who wields a keyblade is in some way special, or has a strong heart, they are not just gona give a keyblade to a heartless.

    That Red armored fellow has alot of resemblance to Rikus armor in KH1, and no im not saying its Riku, but the reason he has a Helmet is because they just dont want to show us his face, I could bet money that he is a new caracter like the 3 armored people. He might look like someone to, just like Venton and Roxas. And for some reason, Nomura has not touched eather the old man or the red armored man, he wants to keep it a secret, because we see him form asside the old man, does not mean he is part of him.

30. on 28 Jul 2007 at 1:50 am 1230. Jonathan060512
    

    ok wen u become a heartless somtimes a nobodies is born rite but wat if somtin else is born a chaser so that guy dat looks like sora n roxas might b der CHASER give me feedback on dis JONATHAN060512@Hotmail.Com

31. on 28 Jul 2007 at 1:52 am 1231. Coldmurdermachine
    

    I think, and this is my opinion, that the older bald man is Ansem the Wiseand that the man beside him is Xigabr. Because xigbar was a discipline of Ansem the Wise and witnessed the 3 knights.

32. on 28 Jul 2007 at 8:17 am 1232. Ace of Diamonds
    

    Coldmurdermachine, I was like you a while ago. I tried to compare similartities between Ansem the Wise and The Old Man. I at one point thought The Old Man was Ansem the Wise, but remember around this Keyblade War, Ansem was ruler over Radiant Garden, he found Xehanort after the Keyblade War was over. Xigbar was nothing more than a disciple to Ansem the Wise. He witnessed the Knights, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he fought them. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but that’s my opinion on the matter. I just think that before Xehanort brainwashed him and the other founding members of the Organization, The Old Man made numerous attacks on his city to steal his people’s hearts, but the 3 Knights protected the city, while Xigbar watched them in action.

    Daylight, I have that same feeling too that The Dark Knight is going to resemble somebody we know. His face had to be covered by a Helmet for some reason. If he looks like Sora, or Riku, that would change alot, or maybe what everyone is saying is true, maybe he is Xehanort, but I strongly disagree with that.

    Shadow, I’m with you on Kairi being a Princess, but if I remember, isn’t it Xehanort that sent her to Destiny Islands to see if The Princess of Heart could react and share a bond of love with The Chosen Keyblade Weilder? Kairi, I believe is from Radiant Garden, but how can she have no memory? Unless when Xehanort took over and banished Ansem, he erased any memory she had of living there. I think it sounds logical.

33. on 28 Jul 2007 at 5:42 pm 1233. Shadow
    

    Ace,Why would Xehanort have done that she showed up at destiny islands probably around when she was 8 years old or something so it seems to me that since she is a princess of heart and is from Radiant garden it really makes me wonder.
    Radiant Garden was called hollow bastion it did not become radiant garden again until kh2.
    Anyways,Maybe Ansem the Wise ended up in the computer at the study because thats the one Xehanort used isnt it cause i am not very sure if i could say kh in kh1 and 2 was fake cause wasnt it just Ansem that sent all those artificial heartless to other worlds?
    I think that as Roxas and Xehanort and the ones such as Ansem you know i think they could somewhat be a new form made through others and so on.I am not very sure about that last sentence.

    Kairi was told a story of some kind of keyblade war from her grandmother right,Well does anyone know where i can find the scene of when that happened?
    You know i found some of the characters names in japanese but it was something said that they were known as and i dont remember which member of the organizations name it was i will try to find it and tell more about it in my next comment but it seems that he was known as a father.

34. on 28 Jul 2007 at 6:26 pm 1234. Shadow
    

    Hey in Xemnas’s name it says Nazo no Otoko,and then on Xigbar its Madan no Shashu,then Xaldin is Senpu no Rokuso,on Axels it is Oduru Hi no Kaze,Demyx is Yaso no Shirabe,Larxene is Hijo no Yoki,and Roxas just seems to be Meguriau Kaji,Now not all of the org. names had no in the middle of their names but most of them the ones that i listed did but not Roxas which seems interesting to me,Well you know how i have said that Terra is Terra no Xehanort well thats because i found proof somewhere that he is known as that but it was a long time ago before i even knew about the secret ending and it talked about what happened with Terra,Aqua and Ven but i can hardly remember what it said their names were but i mostly remember Terra no Xehanort cause that really confused me.
    I dont remember what it said happened and it also had the hwole story after it and it was so freakin long but i went to go back to it and it wouldnt let me in it seems that a hacker posted that link, but i guess it would have been sick to have just told everyone the hwole story like that.
    The guy that put it on there said his name was hacker dog or something like that.

    Anyways,It has no between all those names,In Japanese no means possessive particle or field they probably just take it as possessive.
    On Axel it says Odoru Hi no Kaze wouldnt that mean possessed of wind because Kaze means Wind?
    That makes me think that Kaze is a part of Vens name.
    I found another name Roxas is said known as and it is Nazo no Shonen.
    It also seems that each no in their names are not capitolized.
    Xaldins name Senpu means deceased father,former husband or late husband,hehe thats really wierd.

    It seems that i cant find all the words meanings they would need to be translated or something some of them have like these lines above them that i dont even know what the heck theyre for but anyways where i am looking for the meanings of those words i cant find them or the english word.

    Nazo is in Roxas name and Xemnas it seems interesting.

    It seems they each have a connection and they seem to be trained in fighting and so on.

35. on 28 Jul 2007 at 6:38 pm 1235. Shadow
    

    The Terra fight was said reached through a portal in the Hall of cornerstone what portal was it because if the place of the gathering is the crossroads with all the grass then that means it may have been in the past.

36. on 28 Jul 2007 at 6:45 pm 1236. Shadow
    

    Does anyone know what Shonen means?

37. on 28 Jul 2007 at 7:33 pm 1237. Ace of Diamonds
    

    When Ansem ruled over Radiant Garden, it wasn’t called Hollow Bastion until Maleficent ruled over it. It’s Kingdom Hearts 2 when it got its name back as Radiant Garden. Remember, everyone began to remember the town’s true name. Anyway, Nomura said The story Kairi’s Grandmother told her was only a Fairy Tale, but it would make some sense to the Keyblade War and how Xigbar witnessed the Knights. Maybe The Old Man and Ansem the Wise once ruled together, and when everyone wanted the Power of Light to themselves, it drove The Old Man mad with Greed. Remember the Door Xehanort opened that broke down the barriers between the worlds? Maybe the Knights protected it from The Old Man. If The Old Man got to that Heart, there was no telling what he’d do with it. So, he brainwashed Xehanort, Terra’s Best Friend, and used him as bait to lure them into the Final Battle. The Dark Soldier is still a Mystery. There are so many signs of him being Xehanort. Weilding a Keyblade, the hatred he had for Xehanort, but then again if he was Xehanort, he would’ve played a more prominent role in the Birth By Sleep Video. Shadow, click my name to see Kairi’s Grandmother’s Story. It maybe a Fairy Tale, but it has to tie into the story somehow.

38. on 29 Jul 2007 at 12:58 am 1238. Shadow
    

    Ace,Well if no in japanese means possess then if no is in the org. japanese descriptions i found it could be that they were possessed in some sort of way such as Xemnas was Nazo no Otoko and Roxas was Nazo no Shonen now if i could only find what Shonen means.
    It seems that if there was a no which is not capitolized between each of their names then they are possessed by someone or something like that.

    Well i think the Bald guy was older than Ansem the Wise and it would make much sense if they knew eachother i am guessing they did but just as Ansem seemed to use Ansem the Wise then i see that may be what baldy did.

    It just seems like it would have been all the others that passed their spirit on to Braig and them that are asleep in the room of sleep instead of their heartless or something like that.

    Does anyone know where the scene where the granny told the story was at?

    That room looks familiar like the place where you get the oblivion key in the first game it looks like that one library but i dont remember what that place was called do you?
    On the sides of those book cases it even had the arrow signs and such.

39. on 29 Jul 2007 at 2:09 am 1239. Shadow
    

    Wait i think i know why Roxas ended up in TWTNW it was after he had awakened Sora where ever he went his heart returned just like what happened to Terra maybe.
    So Roxas had fought Riku and he also had oathkeeper and oblivion so when he regained Soras memories he had still forgotten of his past just the same way as Xehanort forgot his past and Xehanort had his heart due to the fact that the bald guy must have used a keyblade to open the door because it wasnt destroyed and when Sora opened it he had to use the key.
    So when Riku was defeated by Roxas he had somehow tooken that form and Terra still passed his spirit to Riku due to him getting the nobody hwom his form took and so then when Roxas took Soras form he got oathkeeper through that and then when he took Rikus form he got oblivion.
    So where did Kairi get oathkeeper in the first place she can probably wield it too.

    If the dark soldier could wield a totally different keyblade than the others hwos form did he take,it could have been Axel.
    He said each of the characters were new so what if the dark soldier was wearing armor but it could still mean he was Xehanort because he used that heartless to become a new form through Terra and then he had turned Terra into a nobody but after the first two games he became hwole again cause they were each defeated and Xemnas is said an enigma possessed by Otoko which is man so that means Xemnas was Xehanort and was then defeated so Then Terra showed up because he became hwole again.

    So maybe Riku got Way to The Dawn for a different reason after all cause if i remember right he got the Way to The Dawn once he went back to normal and Soul eater was a fake keyblade.

40. on 29 Jul 2007 at 7:23 am 1240. Ace of Diamonds
    

    The story with Kairi’s GrandMother was in Radiant Garden before it was Hollow Bastion, but you could pretty much say it was in the same place. Soul Eater was a Keyblade at one point in time in my opinion, but the weapon Soul Eater itself isn’t a Keyblade. Riku had to bring Roxas to Ansem the Wise in order for Sora to wake up and regain his memories. I’m too entirely sure Terra passed his spirit onto anybody. He’s known as The Lingering Spirit in Final Mix, so I guess Sora fights the Human Form of his spirit, or something. When Roxas beat Riku the first time, Riku took the power of Darkness in his heart and turned into Ansem and used all he had to beat Roxas. So, I guess turning into Ansem is like his Final Form of Darkness, his full power so to speak. Kinda like with Terra. Maybe Xehanort was a part of his being, and since Xehanort was a creature born of Darkness, when Terra’s eyes changed colors, he was transforming into Xehanort and his full power, until the Darkness drove him mad and caused him to attack his friends, and that time, Xehanort split from Terra. Unlike Riku though, Terra couldn’t fully control the Darkness within. Then again, that’s just my opinion.

41. on 29 Jul 2007 at 3:53 pm 1241. Shadow
    

    Yeah but somehow Vens soul was passed on to Riku so he would get the Way to The Dawn and then somehow Terras soul was passed on to Roxas for some reason,maybe its because Xehanort used his heartless,maybe to make it so he had a heart i guess i shouldnt have said Xehanort more like the bald man.Then when the heart released from him for some reason it went to Roxas and so if Xehanort was made a nobody through Terra and just took his heart then wouldnt that have made Xehanort Terras body and so then that would make Sora a new form of himself cause when Roxas came he was made as his nobody spirit so then he got released and Sora didnt have anything more than his real spirit and soul within youd think his heartless would be controlled more of darkness other than finding Kairi and so on,cause you know that would be like giving some of her spirit to him practically.
    Anyways what was that library called that they were at in Radiant garden.

    It seems that each of the org. was possessed as in by no as a field or possess,maybe through some of the org. they had the keyblade passed on that way but for some unknown reason was no longer able to wield them such as them losing their hearts to something making them just have spirit without their keyblades because their heartless are still asleep and seems they may not be able to take back their hwole form i think Axel might i am not sure with the others.

    Axel obviously at one time had a keyblade it was bond of flame so its likely the others had their own uniqe keyblades.

    Well is Kairis grandmas whereabouts unknown i mean she said a bedtime story of a keyblade war but hwo the heck are her parents?

42. on 29 Jul 2007 at 10:40 pm 1242. Shadow
    

    Ace,I think that youre right with Terra having Xehanort within him with the transformation and such,So thats what it means with the possessive thing and so on but i think something like that somehow happened between Ven and Axel before Roxas showed up.

43. on 30 Jul 2007 at 6:23 am 1243. Daylight
    

    But maybe thats what they wanted us to see… if he does not play a big role, you wount be looking at him much, so to us, and alot of people he only looks like his the old mas assistance, or protecting the old man.

    I dont know if it is Xehanort, but it wouldnt be a bad idea. For all we know he could of betrayed the old man?.. I dont think he will look like Riku or Sora, but i think he will look like someone we know, couse his helmet never comes off, so we are made to focus on the old man more than the red armoured knight.

    Remember like Cloud in FF7, when he cant remember what hpn to him in his past, and he thinks he is did all the things we see Zack do, in the end he was the soldier beside him… your meant never to look at the soldier, when i 1st found out , i was like “wowowow cool Story”

44. on 30 Jul 2007 at 6:24 am 1244. Daylight
    

    Another thing, i think if we had played Final MIx 2 in english, we would have a better view of things.

45. on 30 Jul 2007 at 10:13 am 1245. Maybe
    

    Maybe these points im about to make could bring new questions, so ( please point out if im pointing out old info), The three soldiers possesed the ability to carry key blades because of their hearts, when ven was abliterated by that oldie ;terras heart changed with hatred toward the senior guy(hence the eyes). In the final battle old man dies due to terra, who also loses his heart. Two things come of this : Xehanort and Xemnas. Xehanort(no heart, heartless!) could not remember his past, because heartless cant remember their past lifes (with the exception of sora). And it seems like Xemnas could because he searched for the remains of aqua and ven in the chambers of awakening and sleep. Maybe hoping that kingdom hearts would bring them back.

46. on 30 Jul 2007 at 6:33 pm 1246. Shadow
    

    I think kingdom hearts played a part in how Roxas was made and got a heart to wield the keyblade it is also connected with the story of how Xehanort and Xemnas and Ansem was made,It seems like Xemnas is no heart and Ansem is heartless but the bald guy used someone elses heart to pass through the door to darkness and anyways he had darkness overcome his new self also just what happened to baldy i believe darkness overcame him or he was just possessed by Xehanort which had happened with Terra too.
    So i believe the Xehanort name originally came from a nobodys name and i believe the original name of him was Thonare and notice the bald guy uses a powerful thunder attack on Terra.
    Thonare is thunder in latin.
    So i think that the heartless dark soldier is the bald mans heartless because it was just baldy in that form and in control farther back in the past something similar may have happened too such as the bald guy and heartless having different keyblades the keyblade the heartless was wielding or the bald guy was either Thonares original or someones keyblade thats totally unknown.

47. on 30 Jul 2007 at 6:54 pm 1247. Sora Rules
    

    hello.

48. on 31 Jul 2007 at 4:47 am 1248. DiZ
    

    Hey guys, haven’t been on in a long while. My computer got busted

    Got a new one though…so cool!

    but it seems oyu guys have been discussing a lot, i just couldn’t keep up, lol. Oh well, now I’m ready to see what other things you guys can deliver.

    I’m back! ^_^

49. on 31 Jul 2007 at 6:18 am 1249. Daylight
    

    hmm idk if a heartless would be given a keyblade tho? becouse they have no heart to begin with, he has to be a full on caracter, to justify him having a keyblade. Or it would really banish the idea that only special people or chosen people carry keyblades, it sort of loses the special factor of this person beeing able to carry a keyblade. So he cant just be the old mans Heartless, he has to be a proper caracter.

50. on 31 Jul 2007 at 6:19 am 1250. Shadow
    

    Hello Diz

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