Riku on 14 May 2007 03:13 am
Scenario Mysteries Interview
TheWertle has struck again! This time with an excellent interview with Tetsuya Nomura from Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ Ultimania called “Scenario Mysteries”, in which he confirms the Enigmatic Soldier’s name as Terra!
In Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+, many mysteries are answered but many new mysteries are also born.
In this version, things relating to additional scenes are included, but during the story there are some questions that pop up, so we’ll see if Nomura can point us in the right direction.
Question: In the original Kingdom Hearts, the King searches for a Keyblade in the Realm of Darkness, but when he meets Ansem the Wise, is the Realm of Light Keyblade he has the one that Sora is currently using?
Nomura: No. The King has the ability to use Keyblades from both the Realms of Darkness and of Light. This is an important point - There isn’t just one Keyblade from each world, but just as many as there are people with qualified hearts.
Question: During the meetings, the members of Organization XIII are sitting in chairs. Is the height of these chairs determined by things like their skills and abilities?
Nomura: No. The height of the chairs is not fixated - They move. That is to say that the height is up to each person. The leader, Xemnas, is always the highest, and to be at the same height as him would give that member a pretty bad feeling, so the other members wouldn’t do that. *Laughs*
Question: At the end of Sora and Riku’s stories in Re: Chain of Memories, Roxas looks back while Hayner and the rest are walking and eating ice-cream, and without seeming to care, Hayner and the others continue walking. Is this because they can’t see Roxas?
Nomura: Well it’s just because they don’t know Roxas that they don’t notice him, not because they can’t see him. At that time, right after Xemnas explains Roxas’ name, Axel says to leave things to him. Then, Roxas seems jealous of how Hayner and the others are enjoying themselves while eating ice-cream, and Axel interprets this as him wanting some ice-cream, so he is obliged to go buy him some.
Question: In the real Twilight Town, didn’t Roxas cross paths with Hayner and the others and make aquaintances with them?
Nomura: I suppose. You can think whatever you want about that.
Question: What triggered Roxas’ separation from the Organization?
Nomura: As he kept having recurring dreams of Sora, someone he didn’t know, he felt he needed to leave the Organization to find out who these people he didn’t know were. As Axel didn’t want him to go, he didn’t tell Sora about Roxas in Castle Oblivion, did he?
Question: In Riku’s ending in Re: Chain of Memories, could you tell us the meaning of the scene where the King and Riku are walking together and Riku suddenly plops down.
Nomura: That’s because Riku realized he couldn’t completely get rid of the Darkness inside of him. The King mentioned in Kingdom Hearts II that as Riku held Xehanort’s Heartless in his heart, he disappeared from the King’s sight. It’s a sort of foreshadowing. In this scene, the King’s face looks worried for a moment because he felt that Riku might eventually no longer be there. Riku headed towards DiZ in order to restore Sora’s memories to normal, but in the end, his departure from the King was so that he wouldn’t show his preparations to use the Darkness.
Question: Could you tell us at what point Riku covered his eyes?
Nomura: When he departed from the King. You don’t know after the scene, but in Riku’s ending in Re: Chain of Memories, when he comes to wherever DiZ is, he’s already covered his eyes.
Question: Please confirm some things about Castle Oblivion. In the additional event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, you can gather from Xigbar and Zexion’s conversation that Castle Oblivion existed in the Inbetween Realm before the birth of the Organization. The Organization then found it and used it for experiments about memories and to look for the Chamber of Awakening, right?
Nomura: Yes. Since their conversation was about Marluxia’s entry, they discovered the Castle before that. In fact, its use, according to Secret Ansem Report 7, was for only 13 Organization Members. Naminé awoke in Castle Oblivion, but as she and Roxas were born at the same time, half of the Organization moved to the Castle.
Question: In the additional event “To Put an End to Everything”, Sora says “It should have been easy to say thanks to Naminé, but I couldn’t say it”. At this point in time, does Sora remember the things that happened with Naminé?
Nomura: If he remembers, it’s because Naminé’s existence was made possible by Sora, and when Naminé and Roxas return to Kairi and Sora, many things were connected. Since Sora never got to say thanks to Naminé, please think of that as a hint.
Question: In the additional event “Farewell to a Friend”, there’s a scene where Axel tells Roxas “You really do have a heart, don’t you”. What is the actual case here?
Nomura: In this scene, it ends bringing up more mysteries about Roxas, so for the answer, maybe take care to follow your hunches well. It’s also related to Xehanort’s memories, but I can’t give any specifics now.
Question: We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?
Nomura: Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.
Question: The Lingering Sentiment (Enigmatic Soldier) is the same as the armored youth in the movie, but when he fights Sora he mentions “Aqua” and “Ven”. Are those the names of the other 2?
Nomura: Yes, the blue haired girl is Aqua.
Question: What is the armored youth’s name?
Nomura: His name appeared once in code in the 2006 Tokyo Game Show Promotional Video. Also, Ven is actually a nickname, but his real name is a little bit longer. Sora, Riku, and Kairi’s names can be seen as “Sky, Land, and Sea” respectively. The 3 armored people’s names take the shape of different properties of the world, “Water, Wind, and Earth”.
Statement: Ven looks an awful lot like Roxas…
Nomura: I can’t give any specifics about that. He may just resemble him, and if there is a connection, Sora may be related too. What I can say right now is that these mysteries are all connected to the story.
Question: In the beginning, the armored youth’s eyes are blue, but at the end they change to gold. Is this revealing a change in him?
Nomura: I can’t give specifics about this either… I think everyone’s imaginations are pretty capable so please try and anticipate a lot of things.
Translated by TheWertle. I edited and corrected spelling and grammar.
- In the photo below, it shows a screenshot of the code that flowed across the screen for a moment during the Promotional Video at the Tokyo Game Show 2006. It has been decoded as:
“Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.”
“Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.”
Terra
Click to enlarge
on 14 May 2007 at 3:37 am 1. Dechiet
OMG! WE KNOW HIS NAME! THANK YOU THANK YO THANK YOU!!
Oh wow, this is a real treasure mine right here! *squeal*
I wonder why he is not yet awakened~ Ooooh! So exciting! XD yays!
Yay for TheWertle and Riku!
on 14 May 2007 at 3:38 am 2. OblivionRiku
YES! ITS ABOUT TIME NOW PEOPLE CAN STOP THEIR THEYORIES ABOUT HIM BEING SORA OR XEHANORT! TY TY TY! I was getting tired of explaining to people why it couldnt be them. Great job guys! These interveiws get us closer and closer to unwravling this mysterie about these 3 knights!
on 14 May 2007 at 3:48 am 3. Shakespeare
XDDD As was I! Finally, the debates come to a close!
However, I wonder…was the code in that picture a code that you had to decode into Japanese and then translate to English? Because it doesn’t look like it works out otherwise. I’m curious about the decoding process on that.
on 14 May 2007 at 4:27 am 4. TheWertle
the part in the caption in quotes is what the message decoded to. I’m pretty sure its a substitution code where each letter represents a syllable. I’ll work it out in a second.
on 14 May 2007 at 4:40 am 5. TheWertle
j-ma
r-su
q-ta
\ -
p-.
@-ze
3-a
k-no
\ -
s-to
0-wo
4-u
z-tsu
m-mo
k-no
t-ka
k-no
u-na
f-ha
w-te
o-ra
e-i
j-ma
q-da
@/-me
x-za
@/-me
1-nu
t-ka
;-re
s-to
c-so
k-no
2-fu
q-ta
l-ri
^-he
z-tsu
u-na
t-ga
@.-ru
Some of those make sense, like ^ for he and e for i but i’m not sure about others…
on 14 May 2007 at 6:37 am 6. Naminé
finally, I know the knights name. I also thought ven was a little weird, but now that he mentioned that its a short version of his real name, then that makes sense.
I knew it, Roxas will be mentioned in KH3 or something like that. It has to do with Xehanorts memories, am I wrong?
I’ve heard that the real Keyblader was supposed to be RIKU, but since he’s given into the darkness, it chose Sora. Soo… that’s why in here, Terra is the main weilder, who is supposed to be like a Riku?
OH and since Kairi now has a keyblade from KH2, does that mean in kh3, she will FINALLY fight?
on 14 May 2007 at 6:47 am 7. Naminé
Wait WTF? “Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.” and “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.” MEANING? someone please explain.
He was Xehanorts avenger? and connected to who two? what? lol after reading those two sayings… i got so lost…
on 14 May 2007 at 8:39 am 8. tazmanianchocobo
It probably has something to do with the lost two, which I’m starting to think is Aqua and Ven.
on 14 May 2007 at 8:46 am 9. I Love Sora
ignore me y dont u
on 14 May 2007 at 9:59 am 10. Riku
I’m just going to clarify the difference between “Avenge” and “Revenge”. Here’s Dictionary.com’s point:
“Avenge” and “Revenge” both imply to inflict pain or harm in return for pain or harm inflicted on oneself or those persons or causes to which one feels loyalty. The two words were formerly interchangeable, but have been differentiated until they now convey widely diverse ideas. “Avenge” is now restricted to inflicting punishment as an act of retributive justice or as a vindication of propriety - For example, “to avenge a murder by bringing the criminal to trial”. “Revenge” implies inflicting pain or harm to retaliate for real or fancied wrongs; a reflexive pronoun is often used with this verb - For example, “Iago wished to revenge himself upon Othello”.
Now this would suggest that at SOME point, Terra and Xehanort were friends, and that he would want to “avenge” something that Xehanort has had done to him. However, in Final Mix+ we see him portraying his hatred for Xehanort. Either that or he was battling Sora to avenge Xehanort’s separation to Heartless and Nobody, or to avenge Xehanort’s Heartless’ death. He could also have been out to get Ansem the Wise.
He did seem to be suggesting that he thought Sora was Xehanort though, which would mean that possibly he avenged something that happened to Xehanort in the past, but then wanted to take revenge on him for something.
It would kind of explain about Xehanort (if it was him) saying “It’s been awhile, my friend” to whichever of the armored knights it was on that basement floor.
Joy of joys. Many more new mysteries that won’t be answered for ages.
Edit: Apparently “Ven” would have to be short for “Ventus” which means “Wind” in Latin. This is just speculation and not confirmation.
on 14 May 2007 at 12:45 pm 11. Sora995
You know I think Ven Is Sora. SO I think in kh3 U play as Terra as the main character? Ven Does Have the personality of Sora including Roxas. And Terra has the personality of Riku. And Aqua has the personality Of Kairi. So those 3 are in there. Sora,Kairi,and Riku. we have no idea what the letter said. Is it in the future? I bet it is. XD XD XD XD XD
on 14 May 2007 at 1:17 pm 12. Shakespeare
Yeah, I tried working out the code last night, but I was really tired…lol
on 14 May 2007 at 1:41 pm 13. Ace of Diamonds
Whoa! Soembody on this board(I can’t remember who) said that the Enigmatic Soldier’s Name was Terra. I thought he was nuts, but he was right. Well, we now know the E.S. name. Riku is right. By Avenger, he means to take vengeance, or exact satisfaction for. I’m gonna guess that Xehanort & Terra lived together with Ven & Aqua. But like Kairi’s Grandmother’s story said, Light was precious to all in the city, and Xehanort became driven with Greed over the power of Light. With Greed, comes Darkness. Xehanort was overcome by Darkness. He tempted Terra since the two were so close, and became the Keyblade Weilders of Darkness. But, Aqua & Ven’s hearts had a light too powerful to be pierced by Darkness. Xehanort & Terra extracted the Hearts of those who lived into their Kingdom Hearts. Terra realized his wrongdoings, and left Xehanort, following The Way to Dawn back Aqua & Ven. Kinda explains the connection with Riku. So, I guess Either Xehanort was the Old Man, or The Dark Soldier, or maybe he sent them to do away with Terra, Aqua, & Ven. “Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.” “Master”, I guess Xehanort was a ruler, and Terra was his apprentice, or something. So, I just wanna know, how is that Terra looks EXACTLY like Xehanort. There’s gotta be a connection. “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.” By those Two, he’s gotta mean Aqua & Ven, and I guess since we saw Terra, he’s already “Awakened.”
on 14 May 2007 at 1:41 pm 14. Shakespeare
Sora995– Ven can’t be Sora. Ven is a new character. Sora is an established character if there ever was one. And we really don’t know anything about any of their personalities…except MAYBE Terra, but we only know what he’s like right before a fight, really.
(Interesting to note (and sudden epiphany) for the people who mentioned that Chaser means ‘one who engraves metal/makes weapons’: Terra says (in this site’s translation): ‘Will you allow me to engrave that into your heart?’)
TheWertle– The slash also makes sense for the extended vowel sound notation…that was the first thing I thought when I compared the translation to the code.
Riku– I would interpret ‘Master Xehanort’s Avenger’ as someone in service to Xehanort, seeking revenge for a wrong comitted against Xehanort. In a moment of drama, you wouldn’t say ‘I am my father’s avenger’ to your enemy if you meant that you wanted to avenge something that your father had done. When I first read it, I perceived it as someone talking to someone else about Terra, like he was giving a report. It felt like ‘Master Xehanort’s Avenger’ was being addressed by the writer, rather than identified as the subject of the sentence.
Granted, when I first looked at it, I was really tired, and I’m not fluent enough in Japanese to know if the original text carries a connotation that infers that ‘ka no na wa TERA’ is ‘Maasuta Zeanooto wo utsumono’, but it just seems like if it was, then it would refer to him more directly (’your name’, rather than ‘his name’). I’d ask my sensei, but she’s on maternity leave, and the guy who babysits our class right now doesn’t have as much experience as she does… ^^;
on 14 May 2007 at 1:43 pm 15. Shakespeare
Yeah, I sneak on here during my first block class between working on projects. XDD
on 14 May 2007 at 5:27 pm 16. Ven
Omg I was rite
on 14 May 2007 at 7:03 pm 17. Roxasfangirl
yea we have his name !! o^0^o
on 14 May 2007 at 7:28 pm 18. britt
in that last picture he really looks like Sora.
on 14 May 2007 at 8:39 pm 19. Riku
Bear in mind that the last picture was only an idea of how Terra would look from Nomura in mid-2006. The final actual look of Terra was seen in the Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ Secret Ending “Birth By Sleep”, which is where the images from the top are from.
How he looked in 2006 bears no relation anymore. I consider it a blessing as I’ve been saying for the past 5 months that it’s not Sora and that Nomura confirmed it not to be. This is further confirmation still, and hopefully people will actually pay attention now.
on 14 May 2007 at 9:34 pm 20. dodo_woa
whao this is awsome, i can’t wait till the next game, but i really hope that they add max to the storyline, by the way max is goofys’ son, beacause i mean somebody had to keep things at order at disney castle while goofy was gone right? i mean he could be second in command, i know i don’t know as much as you guys do but i still hope they add max to the storyline.
by the way i wanna know ven full name, ventos, vientos
thosea re just somes guesses, beacuse vientos means winds so you never know, please somebody leave a response to my comment thank you
on 14 May 2007 at 10:02 pm 21. Ace of Diamonds
But, Shakespeare, why would Terra seek revenge for a wrong made against Xehanort? We saw in the cutscene with Sora, that Terra expressed a great deal of Hatred for Xehanort. I can’t see how can defend somenone you hate. Terra said that he didn’t choose Xehanort. Terra’s Keyblade was passed onto Sora. Riku gave in to the Darkness, and I guess the Keybalde was essentially suposed to be given to Xehanort. Maybe Terra would hope to fight him one last time. Like I mentioned in my theory. When Xehanort gave into Greed, his heart was overcome by Darkness, and it chnaged him. Kinda like how Peter’s Attitude changed in the Spider-Man movie. He had a new look, and acted differently. Xehanort must’ve pushed awsy his friends, and focused on taking the hearts of the people in the city, and make the Kingdom Hearts we saw in the Secret Ending.
on 14 May 2007 at 10:28 pm 22. vinan123
Terra kinda sounds like a girl’s name to me. Same thing with Sora’s name.
on 14 May 2007 at 10:32 pm 23. OblivionRiku
Ace. You are very right. i was waiting for someone to post this. But yeah. In the cutscene b4 you fight Terra. and even afterwards. What he says shows that he has GREAT hatred towards him. That doesnt mean once they were friends. They could have always been enimies. Ven, Terra and Aqua may be like best friends like, Sora, Riku, And Kairi. Now i belive this whole cutscene was in the past. If i remember correctly. In the KH2 Final Mix+ Trailer *the video that was released in japan showing both CoM RE: and KH2 FM+. At the very end it shows one of the organization members *i beilive was Xemnas* Sitting down in this chair in the room of sleep and awakening. The whole room lit up and it showed a body on the floor. * i beilive…well im almost postive after looking at it carefully a billion times. that the body laying on the floor was one of the Knights.* Now im not sure if this cutscene was b4 you fight Terra or afterward. But im sure the one that was awaken was Terra. but why..if im correct. Would Xemnas bring him back? if we are almost sure that this Bald Man has a connection to Xehanort then. Why? Hmm.
on 14 May 2007 at 10:39 pm 24. OblivionRiku
Also. Adding on to my last message. When Xemnas *or whoever it was that sat down in the chair* when he sat down and the room lit up. He said something like. If i can remember correctly. “It’s been a while. My friend”
Maybe The organization created these knights? or maybe they were real people b4. And they had Namine erase their memories with her power. So maybe the could use them? But then.. why would Terra hate Xehanort so? Maybe they had namine put his memories back that way?
Who knows why they would make him hate Xehanort but maybe thats part of their plan.
on 14 May 2007 at 10:41 pm 25. OblivionRiku
That would explain the whole
“Birth by sleep”
“Not yet awakened, he is connected to those tw”o
on 14 May 2007 at 10:44 pm 26. OblivionRiku
i just hope this game turns out alright. Now that Sora’s Saga is over. i wonder how the games gonna turn out. cuz if this is supposed to be a whole new series. will they even keep the Final Fantasy Characters and the Disney characters? maybe they will only keep like..Donald, Goofy and king mickey. and maybe they will get rid of all the disney worlds. see look at it this way..
Kingdom Hearts Chars:(They were made for the game)
Final Fantasy Chars:(Were added in by Square Enix)
Disney Chars:(Pretty much the whole point of kingdom hearts. Also you play in only disney worlds)
but see. sora, kairi, riku, ansem, xehanort, the organization, roxas, namine ECT. Are KH characters. Not disney or FF. So will the new game be more focused on the KH chars?
on 14 May 2007 at 10:58 pm 27. vinan123
Sora’s story can’t be over. Maleficent and Pete are still out there.
on 14 May 2007 at 11:09 pm 28. Terra
I see… it all makes sense now, besides the code. I mean, only TheWertle could find something like that.
on 14 May 2007 at 11:18 pm 29. Ven
Riku… Rember told you on msn his name is going be Terra like no wouldent be girls name should be Terrn I was rite in ur face XD
I hope we play as Him ty so mutch for interveiw =]
Im Kai this my new name Ven xD
on 14 May 2007 at 11:27 pm 30. Mohrphorm
Ventus, Aqua, and Terra. I had believed the rumors about their names, and they ended up being true. Cool =P
Sora’s story cannot be over. Nomura has made it clear the KH is Sora’s story, and no one else’s.
Take a moment and compare “ASAS: Deep Dive” to “Birth By Sleep.” Just because Sora isn’t shown, doesn’t mean that he won’t be in the 3rd game. And also consider that just because the secret video takes place in the past, doesn’t neccessarily mean that the game will as well. If the video was really anything like “Deep Dive,” then it is merely pressing upon us an event that will be critical in the next installment, be it a prequel or sequel.
on 14 May 2007 at 11:38 pm 31. Xolus
Sora’s story isn’t over, the next game isn’t KH3 it’s a sidestory, and there will still be a Kh3 but it won’t be the next game.
on 15 May 2007 at 12:57 am 32. vinan123
But Xolus, Nomura said that he would be making a completely new series.
on 15 May 2007 at 1:42 am 33. confuzedblad3R
k so whats it all about, why is terra avenging xehanort isnt he the bad guy, and who are the other keybladers, what happened to sora, kairi, and riku what side story are they going to be in?
on 15 May 2007 at 1:47 am 34. Mohrphorm
I personally think that Nomura is gonna pull a BHK on us. After “Deep Dive,” swarms of people thought that the game would involve bouncing back and forth between Sora and the “Blond Haired Kid.” But then again, #31 Xolus may be correct. But I have my doubts - Nomura stated that the game wouldn’t abridge KH2 and 3 like CoM did. I just think that he figured that “Kingdom Hearts 3″ is a little bland for a title =P
on 15 May 2007 at 2:09 am 35. Shakespeare
Ace, I’m not saying that Terra is seeking vengeance on behalf of Xehanort; I’m saying that Terra is the target of the avenger. (Not to use a Harry Potter example or anything, but like Wormtail saying to Voldemort ‘Master, his name is Harry Potter’. His master’s name isn’t Harry Potter, but he’s addressing his master.)
OblivionRiku, it was Aqua’s armor on the floor in the Room of Sleep. And since Terra is an optional fight, it doesn’t necessarily have a place in the game’s continuity, just like the Sephiroth fight.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:18 am 36. Jeff
terra and xehanort kind of look similar possibly brothers but im not sure i think the knights names are in latin i looked it up on ES and it said terra but i wasnt sure cause it sounded like a girls name i heard somewhere that the bald guys name is erol.i saw their full names on a link posted on a site that i cant find or get into for that matter it was like a long time ago(possibly 5-7 months ago)and it said pretty much everything that was going to be in kh3.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:22 am 37. Ven
Ace of Diamonds I love ur idia because rember Riku did same thing left friends for darkness\power and Xehanort Riku have connection there both darkness and Xehanort can mean Another he has 2 lol see xehanort and riku have bond =]
on 15 May 2007 at 2:34 am 38. Zen
Ven? Are you part of Xonofirm?
on 15 May 2007 at 2:35 am 39. Zen
Are you still on, Ven?
on 15 May 2007 at 2:43 am 40. Lover
I love You TheWertle
on 15 May 2007 at 2:44 am 41. Zen
Who’s the Wertle?
on 15 May 2007 at 2:45 am 42. OblivionRiku
wtf my comment wont show up
on 15 May 2007 at 2:46 am 43. OblivionRiku
Jeff, no website would have the acuall names of the people. The only ones we know FOR SURE are Terra, Aqua and Ven. If another website has a name for the bald guy, or the knight who fights besides the bald guy, they are obviously just guessing. The only one who knows the names is Tetsuya nomura. And he has only CONFIRMED Aqua’s name. But obviously using common sense we know the roxas look-alike is ven, and decoding this pick we got the E.S name..Terra. And Terra does make sense. Because Terra means earth. and also if anyone watched teen titans *lol* the blonde haired girl was named Terra. And she could move the earth.*who knows what that has to do with KH lol*
And shakespear.how would we know if the knight in the room of sleep is AQua? it doesnt even give us a good body shot to know if its even a knight. i dont see why it would be aqua. Imm sure we wont see anything about ven and aqua untill the next KH.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:47 am 44. OblivionRiku
((Continuing from my last comment))
And see. Even though its an optional fight doesnt mean it doesnt belong in the community. I mean cmon. Yeah Sephiroth has nothing to do with the storyline but then again. When has any Final Fantasy char had anything to do with the MAJOR storyline? IT doesnt matter if Terras an obtional fight. The only reason why its optional is Tetsuya Nomura wanted to show us Terras power. He didnt want to put Terra in the game MAKING you HAVE to fight him to continue on, cuz that would be a big road block in the game.
on 15 May 2007 at 2:52 am 45. OblivionRiku
And wow i have got to say. You guys are amazing! lol. working for this website would be so cool…
But i work for unlimitedgamer.net lol.
Kevin promised me he would make a KH3 section on the website. Since mainly thats what i always write about.
So anyway if u want a place to talk about this game, check in every once and a while and we might have a forum set up by them. or at least..somthing
*click on my name to go to unlimitedgamer.net*
on 15 May 2007 at 4:29 am 46. Jeff
OblivionRiku,okay first of all it was not really a site it was off a link on a site that had info about it was kind of something that a hacker posted but im not sure it may have been just something that just leaked out in the corner it said square enix and a bunch of numbers i mean i read about the erol guy on a different website anyways and i never said i was FOR SURE ON whether erol was his real name i just heard that somewhere and you do have some good points i mean i know the only ones we know for sure are aqua,ven and terra and yeah how would we know if the knight in room of sleep is aqua besides that i knew the roxas look alike is VEN duh and yes terra means earth but it does sound like a girls name supposedly like teen titans but thats NOT SUCH a big deal and ace has some good points too and shakespeare has a few.Things like that
on 15 May 2007 at 4:51 am 47. Shakespeare
OblivionRiku: Check out the KH2FM+ video before Xigbar and Zexion are talking about the two rooms. After Xemnas speaks, the camera shows his POV, and we clearly see the armor for about five seconds. When you compare to still shots of the three knights from the first KH trailer, it is clearly Aqua’s (empty) armor. It is blue, and the knee joint of the armor matches hers (Ven’s armor’s joints are spikier, so it can’t be his) and has the same silver designs as hers do. (The men’s armor has chunkier objects wrapping around the outside of their leg armor, whereas Aqua has a more geometric ‘thunderbolt’ sort of design without large chunks of silver.)
I’ll find you the video so you can see for yourself…(Over on KH-Vids.net, check out the KH2:FM+ Cutscene titled ‘An Old Friend’. It will be in the last 30 seconds of the video, after you’ve sat through watching Xemnas walk around for about three and a half minutes.)
Also, in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix, there is an optional fight with Xemnas that you can access in Hollow Bastion. Since it was added later, it obviously doesn’t have a major impact on THAT game’s continuity. It hints at the NEXT game, but it doesn’t have any impact on the story of KH1. But what I meant was in reference to your question about where the video falls; you can’t unlock the Terra fight until after this video…don’t you have to beat the game to unlock him, anyway?
on 15 May 2007 at 4:55 am 48. Shakespeare
If you would like to see the still that I used for reference for my previous post, click my name. Aqua’s armor is shown very clearly due to the angle of the light.
on 15 May 2007 at 6:57 am 49. OblivionRiku
Alright alright ig to urguys point. lol guess ya kinda proved me wrong but that just helps me for my future theories.
ty Jeff and Shakespear. and ill check out that vid
on 15 May 2007 at 7:07 am 50. OblivionRiku
Wow i stand corrected. Thank you shakespear. it would have helped if i had saw that whole video rather then just that clip on the trailer. Tyvm. But that makes me wonder.. When he was walking it had voiceovers of Ansem and Xehanort. Xehnort wanted to continue with an “expirement” yet ansem told him “no” i remember reading something about this in the Secret ansem reports..i cant remember exactly what it was..maybe Ansem knew something about these knights. had some connection. but where did they come from? are they memories of people created into something? or are they acuall people…Aquas armor was empty…So could that battle on the secret ending have happened in the past? if so then whos the bald person? could that have been Xehanort? Hmmm..i must watch some of these videos. and refer back to the Secret ansem reports to see if i ave missed something
Dead Shakespear i thank you oh so much. This helps me alot! ^_^
on 15 May 2007 at 7:28 am 51. OblivionRiku
HOLY CRAP! i just watched the cutscene with Xigbar and Zekxion and HOLY CRAP EVERYTHINGS COMMING TOGETHER!!!. First of all. Xemnas is hiding something. A secret like they said. Xigbar said he heard him talking to someone down there..in the room of sleep..That must have been aqua! See the video did happen in the past because Xigbar said and i quote.
“Xigbar:How many years ago was it? People with the Blade of Keys started to appear…and fought great battles. When they were gone a man who has lost his memories had appeared. Xemnas..no. Xehanort was taken in by ansem at the time, was he not?”
That makes Sense! I read in the secret ansem report, that Ansem has taken in a man who had forgoteen all of his memories..that was Xehanort. Xeigbar said Many years ago the people with the blade of keys *Terra, Ven, Aqua* started to appear. They fought great battles *like the one in the final mix ending* when they were gone a man who lost his memories had appeared. *Xehanort* That was probably the bald man! Yes this all makes sense!!!
In the secret ansem reports it talked about Ansem having not only 1 aprrentince but a few..those of which who i think are. Xehanort. Zexion. Xigbar. there was a few more aprrentinces but these ones i know for sure are at least 3 of them.
Xigbar also talks about the “Room of sleep” *which holds Aqua* “The Room of Awakening” *which holds either ven or terra* And, “The room of sleep and awakening” *which holds terra or ven* We know there is a knight in each room because of the fact that Xigbar said AND i quote.
“With the Room of sleep..Comes the room of awakening. The other place. That is what he is seeking. That room which was not made by Xemnas. Perhaps that is where…The other…”Friend” is”
*End of Video*
Remember Xehanort adressed to Aqua as his “Friend”? Xigbar is obviously talking about another knight in the other room. 3 rooms. 3 knights. Makes sense..right?
The knights in each room are just empty bodies. and Xemnas is usually in those rooms. Like Vexen said. If Xehanort is the bald guy…Then why would he be friends with these knights. in the video they were fighting right?
on 15 May 2007 at 7:33 am 52. OblivionRiku
Dead Shakespear i thank you oh so much. This helps me alot! ^_^
Meant to say “Dear” lol.
on 15 May 2007 at 7:35 am 53. Axel50
interesting…
anyway the 6 apprentinces were the 6 members of organization 13-Xemnas(Xehanort), Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Laxeus(or somethin) and Zexion.
Just thought id mention that.
on 15 May 2007 at 7:39 am 54. OblivionRiku
Ah that makes sense now. I knew we had Xehanort. Zexion. And Xigbar. i was pretty sure about Vexen. and Now that u mention it. Xaldin and LExeaus makes sense. They were also mentioned in that vid.
ty
on 15 May 2007 at 7:45 am 55. OblivionRiku
Does my theory make sence at all lol? Do you find any fault with it? Feedback would be great. always trying to fix my errors. im writing everything that comes to mind about KH3 in a Document. This way i can look over everything and peice it together. Ha u can say im obsessed ^_^.
i put in the document All my theories. ALL things that make sense. Quotes from vids. And Secrect Ansem reports. And from other people. I plan on unwravling this game b4 it comes out lol. well not really. i just have to know.. XD Tell me if theres sumthing wrong with it./
on 15 May 2007 at 8:16 am 56. OblivionRiku
Hmm something i just realized…
Even, Ienzo, Braig, Dilan, and Elaeus
5 out of 6 of Ansems Aprentinces…
The last one is Xehanort.
now we can tell which Organization members these are.
Just take out the X in each name and mix around the words. *i already knew about this. its just like Sora and Roxas.*
But the point is!
Even: Vexen.
Ienzo: Zexion
Dilan: Xaldin
Braig: Xigbar
Elaeus: Lexeaus
Xehanort: “No Heart?”
What is Xehanorts REAL name? This really makes me think..Who was Xehanort? All the organization members took their names…mixed them around. and added an X somewhere…Except Xehanort.. He took Ansems name and added an X… X.E.M.N.A.S= Ansem.
You would have thought he would have mixed around Xehanort.. but see..Xehanort is kinda like the whole..mix ur name around and add an X. but that was his real name right?
WHO IS XEHANORT!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH.
lol
OO THATS FUN IMA MAKE AN ORGANIZATION NAME!!
Raxistnt haha CAN U GUESS MY REAL NAME?!?! *lol*
on 15 May 2007 at 8:31 am 57. OblivionRiku
Question: We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?
Nomura: Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.
So.. Even, Ienzo, Braig, Dilan, and Elaeus, Xehanort and Ansem..their “Expirement” has to do with the knights…correct? In the secret ansem report Ansem talks about them using Xehanorts memories and an expirement..im my theyory i said Xehanort is the bald man. who fought the keyblade weilders and then was found by Ansem. Who took him in. At the time he had forgoten most of his memories. Yet he agreed to be an expirement for ansem. They played with his memories. And obvioulsy found out about these knights..They might have done something..and tried to bring the knights back..for what reason? i dont know. in the secret reports it said.
If I explore Xehanort’s heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within. My apprentice Even has also shown great interest in Xehanort’s memories. But is he really the right subject? Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents… Too extraordinary… Perhaps they are even superhuman.
in the secret ending it said “Memory of Xehanort” across the screen…He has to do with the bringing back of the knights…Eventually Ansem forced them all to cease from their operation. but they continued… AH i cant think straight its 1:30..im going to bed trying to get my mind of this topic xD *NOT FINISHED WITH THIS POST*
on 15 May 2007 at 3:33 pm 58. Josh
This is some what confusing now:
“Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra.”
and when you fight him he say’s:
“Let me engrave my hatred for Xehanort into your heart”
I’m confused now, so does he like xehanort or not?
on 15 May 2007 at 7:22 pm 59. Mohrphorm
Hmmm… this is all very interesting. But I have a theory of my own:
Ven(tus), Aqua, and Terra were friends, akin to Sora, Kairi, and Riku (though they have mixed-up keyblades, so it makes me wonder…). Personally, I think BOG (Bald Old Guy, don’t like calling him “Elder Mage”) is Xehanort. Now apparently, there was no love lost between the three friends and BOG, so they battled. All four of them were Chasers (I think this is a term referring to anyone who inherits a Keyblade from another, Terra>Sora etc.). There used to be more, but BOG got greedy… he started to kill them off. Terra was attacked by one of BOG’s giant creature things, but he managed to kill it. He joins back up with Ven and Aqua, and retrieves their second Keyblades (they don’t use them in the fight, so I amk confused, any ideas?). And so, They fought. And fought. And fought some more (the entire plot of the next game? =P). But, BOG overwhelmed them and managed to kill Ven and Aqua(not shown in the video, purely speculation). And so, a pissed off Terra does the unthinkable - he surrenders his heart to darkness (hence the “nothing but hate for Xehanort” thing). He is the Avenger of Xehanort, meaning that BOG (theoretically) is the target of his veangeance. With his power he kill Xehanort, and then fades away into the darkness, filled with guilt and hatred, his heart as barren as their battleground (poetic, isn’t it?)….
Skip ahead an unknown number of years ahead. Ven and Aqua are reborn as Sora and Kairi, and Xehanort appears mysteriously in Radiant Garden, with his youth restored and his memories all gone (memories remain in the heart, remember?). And hence, “Birth by Sleep” as in death. Blah, blah, blah… Xehanort’s memories gradually return to him, and his craze for power begins again. THE END
on 15 May 2007 at 7:29 pm 60. Saturna
I’m pretty neutral about this, but I know ‘Terra’ as a character in FF6 and Terra was a she. Just thought you’d like to notice that.
on 15 May 2007 at 7:39 pm 61. Mohrphorm
Hmmm… I hope the Final Mix version comes out of Japan. Maybe they’ll fix some of the translation errors (Its supposed to be Aeleus, not Eleus, and Dalin instead of Dilin). Along with the edited rifles-to-crossbows in Port Royale, and how Xigbar fuses his guns together to make a sniper rifle in the Japanese version.
on 15 May 2007 at 8:21 pm 62. eric
hi can riku add me in msn? as well anyone that know alot of thing bout KH? my msn is eric_francislopes@hotmail.com
on 15 May 2007 at 10:32 pm 63. Ace of Diamonds
Mohrphorm makes a good point. The Old Man has to be Xehanort. After all, he does dawn Ansem’s Clothes. It’s all gotta tie in somewhere. Terra, the Keyblade wielder if Earth, Aqua, The Keyblade Weilder of Water, and Ven, the Keyblade Weilder of Wind. Maybe when Xehanort’s heart changed him because of the Darkness within, and wen on that killing spree, he took the hearts of many people. Look at the Kingdom Hearts at the end of the Secret Movie. He had to have collected alot of Hearts to make the Kingdom Hearts that big. In the Teaser, at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2, Terra was waiting for Aqua & Ven. they all came from separate crossroads. If they all lived together, they wouldn’t have arrived separately. Terra follows the path of Dawn(I’m not sure now because he pickes up the Kingdom Key which represents Light.), Ven follows Twilight(also not sure of this because Ven picks up the Way to Dawn Keyblade.), and Aqua picks King Mickey’s Keyblade and represents Light. The survivors of Xehanort’s attack, them being Terra, Aqua, & Ven, joined together to stop Xehanort once and for all. This might sound stupid, but at the end of Kingdom Hearts, the figure walking toward the knights looked to have long hair, but in this new secret ending, he was totally bald, and isn’t funny that they each had two Keyblades, and they vanished in the new ending. Maybe, the Secret Ending at the end of Kingdom Hearts took place in the future, but this one took place in the past. If the thing Terra is standing looked like the Nobody Dragon, how could it exist if Xemnas wasn’t created yet? And I still would like to know what Riku’s Keyblade was there if he himself created the Keyblade. Just some thoughts, I know it sounds stupid. One last thing, who do guys think that Dark Soldier that came out of the Old Man is?
on 15 May 2007 at 10:48 pm 64. eric
i agree with aces of diamonds
on 15 May 2007 at 11:25 pm 65. jeff
well you guys have some great theories but the only thing i cant figure out is how could the bald guy be xehanort when xehanorts his real name wouldnt it be like he looks the same as in the other games as xehanort besides his nobody and possibly other nobody or heartless or whatever cause if it took place in the past how could xehanort be older unless it took place in the future unless that room with aquas armor was shown in the present i think the bald guy is possibly a nobody formed by the darkness in which he had made a heartless but if a nobodys the same thing as a heartless how could a nobody heartless not have a heart if they make a heartless take axel for example and roxas they cared for their supposedly friends and things like that and they are said nobodies and anyways doesnt anyone possibly see a resemblence between terra and xehanort possibly brothers and again im wondering if terra or xehanort which one could maybe be his uncle and any ways that bald guy may have went back in time to get into kingdom hearts and get the nobodies heartless???and others etc. and things like that for another war or something for some reason and nomura hinted that ven has a relation with roxas somehow maybe meaning ven is related to sora and soras nobody is roxas anyways im gettin confused if this sounds confusing i am and its possibly false but possibly could work.I think the bald guy has somethin to do with when mickey and riku were in the realm of darkness.
on 16 May 2007 at 12:02 am 66. Mohrphorm
Ace presents some good points as well. I think that shadow was something similar to the guardian that followed “Ansem” (Xehanort’s Heartless). Keybladers have to have powerful hearts. It would explain why they’re all gone, and how he was able to summon Kingdom Hearts. Remember Xemnas’ armored form? I think that and the dragon were derived from Xehanort’s original abilities, as well as the “guardian.”
on 16 May 2007 at 12:31 am 67. vinan123
Ace, there’s really no telling you what the Dark Soldier might be. It can’t be a Heartless or a Nobody, because if that was the case, then the old guy would have disappeared. Maybe he can make the Darkness in his heart become human or something…
on 16 May 2007 at 1:10 am 68. Shakespeare
For some reason, my posts aren’t showing up.
on 16 May 2007 at 1:48 am 69. Shakespeare
((Well, WordPress says my comment went through, but I still don’t see it…so if this is a double post, gomen.))
Exactly. I think there’s only two rooms, though (Sleep and Awakening), and I still think that Xemnas’s greeting is sarcastic. It sounds to me as if he’s scoffing at Aqua. (Just like the one in Advent Children; Sephiroth gives an equally sarcastic, and almost identical greeting to Cloud.)
And yes, the 6 apprentices were Xehanort, Braig, Dilan, Even, Elaeus and Ienzo. Their names all appear in Secret Ansem Report #3, but several of the names are misspelled. (The fact that you can rearrange the letters and see that they were mistranslated is rather obvious. Xigbar does not have an L in it.)
To post 56 (lol, you post more than I do!): Xehanort also rearranges to ‘Another X’, as in ‘another unknown variable’. Since he had lost all his memories, presumably including his name, his name would be ‘another X’. Also, Xehanort had abandoned that name and was working in secret under the name ‘Ansem’ with the other apprentices. After all, he wrote most of the Ansem Reports from the first game.
Now, for a real name…if we assume that there were 4 Chasers, we have Wind, Water and Earth names already. Perhaps Xehanort’s real name is associated with fire? Ignus? Mulciber? Ignifer? (The last one would be interesting, for the -ifer connection to evil in the West, but the first seems most likely.)
I might also add…we see in Mickey’s flashback and in the portrait in Ansem’s study that Xehanort is a good-looking young man with a full head of hair, not at all like the Bald Man. I think it’s more likely that Xehanort was the man in the Heartless Armor…but it is possible that, if the crossroads are in a world separated from time, that the Old Man could be a Xehanort from the future, seeking more power by affecting his actions in the past (but his meddling very well could have eliminated his own existence, resulting in the one Xehanort we all know and love).
on 16 May 2007 at 1:49 am 70. Josh
Maybe the Bald man has the ability to spilt his body into a heartless and nobody at will.
on 16 May 2007 at 1:53 am 71. jose
i told ya that his name was either terra or dust and i was right. i was the first one to say his name so dont ya try to take my idea because i was like the second one to write on the “number
responses place”when his name was still unknown,
oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
on 16 May 2007 at 2:32 am 72. Riku
Jose, people have been thinking his name was Terra ever since the cutscene with the Enigmatic Soldier (Secret Boss) battle was shown. If you don’t believe me you can go to the videos section and see the comments on that battle.
I admit I myself thought the name would be something other than Terra because Terra is a girl’s name, but it’s the name anyway.
on 16 May 2007 at 4:37 am 73. gamegirl244
Oy, guys, me and a friend just made a breakthrough in the names thingy…kinda. With Sora, Riku, and Kairi, they’re names are Japanese for ‘Sky, Land, and Sea’, which we all know. Well, me and a friend were thinking how the names are connected, and I thought ‘Hey, Aqua means ‘Water’ in Italian’…and then, it clicked. Terra’s also Italian, meaning ‘Earth’. So we looked up ‘Wind’ and, turns out, there’s a word for it: Vento. I know it may not be much, but it clears up what Nomura said when he mentioned that Ven’s name was longer…it’s a possibility Ven’s full name is Vento
on 16 May 2007 at 5:17 am 74. Shakespeare
Yeah, since Italian is derived from Latin, the words Aqua, Terra and Ventus (or as you say in modern Italian, ‘Vento’) would logically appear. The words are probably similar in other languages derived from Latin, such as Spanish and French. However, I don’t speak either of those languages, so I can’t verify that. (I only speak English, Japanese and German.)
on 16 May 2007 at 6:28 am 75. kuyo
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but the names are directly connected to each other:
Sora (Sky) ~ Ven (Wind)
Riku (Land) ~ Terra (Earth)
Kairi (Sea) ~ Aqua (Water)
And that corresponds with the similarities in the character design…hmmm.
on 16 May 2007 at 7:38 am 76. Hearts of Darkness
I still think that the black/red armored dude has a lot more to this story. Also, how does a really old guy loose fifty or sixty years of age and grow a whole mess of hair. Really guy, even a video game has to have some reality to it.
Maybe the red/black guy is xahanort and is a servent of baldy (that yes lives in side of him). But thats kind of makes sence. Like when xahanort controlled riku, they fused and then spilt for a little. Just like these two. the reason Terra hates xahanort so much might be because he destroyed his home like how Riku destroyed the island. Maybe we see Dark Side again in the next game.
I’m just putting out another idea.
on 16 May 2007 at 10:01 am 77. Riku
kuyo, not only did gamegirl244 mention it two messages before yours, but it was in This News Post awhile ago - Nomura even pointed it out himself in this interview!
Riku didn’t intentionally destroy the island. He gave in to the Darkness, which is different, and the same could theoretically apply to Xehanort.
on 16 May 2007 at 1:24 pm 78. Shakespeare
I think that idea is very likely. Plus, it makes for a more compelling story if the hero and the villain were once best friends. That was what made the whole Riku dynamic interesting in the first place.
on 16 May 2007 at 2:16 pm 79. Josh
In reply to Riku
what are you talking about, almost every person on this site said his name was going to Aero
on 16 May 2007 at 5:18 pm 80. vinan123
I wonder if the Chasers were the ones who made the Keyblades? They never explained how they were made, or where they go when its wielder makes it disappear. Or how a Keyblade chooses its master. Maybe Keyblades have hearts themselves…
on 16 May 2007 at 6:25 pm 81. gamegirl244
In reply to vinan123’s post, I HAVE heard something interesting (most likely everyone else heard it too…): if you look up ‘Chaser’ in the dictionary, you also get the following response:
One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.
So yes, theologically, it would be reasonable that ‘Chasers’ are the people who made the Keyblades.
ALSO, my friend made another breakthrough; connecting with what Shakespeare said about how Xehanort can spell out to be ‘Another X’and that since Aqua, Ven, and Terra are representing Wind, Water, and Earth, the most logical element missing is Fire. My friend, being the analytical one of us, figured that the ‘X’ is a missing factor, and perhaps the missing ‘factor’ is the Fire Element that Xehanort (probably under some name that means Fire, but abandoned it since he went down the path of darkness, or forgot it when he lost his memories) previously controlled.
Also, We made another discovery; people say that Terra comes down from the Road of Light? I don’t think so. When his eyes glow yellow at the end, perhaps he’s tapping into some inner, possibly dark power. Perhaps it was Terra who went with Xehanort down the path of Darkness, but returned through Dawn? This would make sense, explaining why, during the fight in FM+, he turns hostle when he mentions Xehanort’s name, and why he held back Ven in the video, only to rush in himself. Ne?
on 16 May 2007 at 7:26 pm 82. Mohrphorm
Ven, Aqua, and Terra correspond to Sora, Kairi, and Riku. It would make no sense if there was a fire one - the former three were intentionally made to correspond to the latter. Xehanort IS his real name. “No heart” and “Another.” Somebody pointed out that a Latin word for thunder can also derive from the anagram. My guess is that the concept of anagram names for Nobodies came from Xehanort’s name (in game).
on 16 May 2007 at 9:19 pm 83. jeff
im just saying that the bald guy obviously cant be xehanort cause xehanort means no heart and the ones with strong hearts are supposed to weild the keyblade.
on 16 May 2007 at 10:18 pm 84. Ace of Diamonds
What about Riku? His heart gave in to Darkness easily, but Sora’s heart had the inner light within therefore couldn’t succomb to the Darkness as easy. Riku was still able to weild The Keyblade. It doesn’t matter if there’s Light, or Darkness in a person’s heart, they can still weild the Keyblade. Xehanort can weild the Keyblade because he knows how to control the power of Darkness within him. BTW, for those who say that the dark Soldier has a Heartless Emblem on his chest, I think that’s just a feature of the outfit he’s wearing, whoever he is. I wanna know who that Dark Soldier is. I already think Xehanort is the Old Man, after all he did weild a Keyblade, and if Xehanort is the Dark Soldier, why didn’t he have a bigger role in the Secret Ending. I mean, he should’ve been the one to go after Terra. Notice how Terra showed no remorse to charging at The Old Man in the Secret Ending. He held Ven back, and prtty much didn’t care what happened to himself, as long as he took down The Old Man. He already expressed a hatred for Xehanort. Unless, Xehanort does arrange to “No Heart” and “Another”. Maybe Xehanort was conducting an experiment, and something went terribly wrong, and split Xehanort into 2 beings. Just stick with me. You can make fun of my theory later, but for now hear me out. The Evil Xehanort was “Another” form of him, yet had No Heart, and could conduct merciless acts without any feeling of regret, no emotion at all. The Good Xehanort, Master Xehanort fell into a deep sleep, and was believed to be dead. Terra was enraged,a nd joined forces with Aqua & Ven to represent the Kingdoms of Water, Wind, & Earth to defeat the Darkness. “Not yet awakened, he is connected to those two.” “Master Xehanort’s Avenger, his name is Terra”. Yeah, it sounds dumb, but It’s all I got right now.
on 16 May 2007 at 11:18 pm 85. Shakespeare
GameGirl244, I agree, and if Xehanort IS tied to fire, then his true name (if Xehanort isn’t his true name) is probably ‘Ignus’, since that’s the most direct translation into Latin for the word ‘Fire’. (A few other possibilities that I found when looking through the dictionary I use were ‘Mulciber’, the surname to Vulcan, and Ignifer, ‘bearer of fire’.)
Of course, the fact that Terra calls Xehanort by the name ‘Xehanort’ certainly implies that it is his true name…but what about the possibility that ‘Aqua’, ‘Ven’ and ‘Terra’ are titles/code names? If that is the case, then ‘Ignus’ could be his name as well as ‘Xehanort’ (but don’t count on this; it was a sudden, not planned out thought. Stream of conscious sort of thing…).
Mohrphorm, I’m trying to find what the Latin word for thunder is, and everything I’ve turned up has been related to the word ‘tono’ or ‘tonitrus’. None of the words that came up for my search had the letter ‘H’ in them. Either my search isn’t broad enough, or there just isn’t an applicable Latin word.
I think the arrangement to ‘Another’ (whether ‘another X’ or not) is the most likely; Sora, Riku and Kairi make up a group. Sora, Donald and Goofy are a group. Aqua, Ven and Terra make up a group, but there is ‘another’ to them…Xehanort. Kingdom Hearts (and really, most Square games) are obsessed with the three member party. (I can only think of one FF game off the top of my head (that I’ve played) that allows for more than 3 people in your party, and that’s FFIX. That’s probably just because it allows for two players, though.)
on 16 May 2007 at 11:55 pm 86. Mohrphorm
They can’t be codenames, for primarily one reason. Nomura said “Ven” is short for his real name, which we could assume is Ventus, being Latin for wind. Typically, shortening someone’s name like that is common among friends. I don’t think they would do that to a codename.
I honestly don’t think Xehanort has an element to his name. I’m not saying its impossible, but thinking of a name like “Xehanort” as an anagram for “no heart,” “another,” AND a possible word in Latin is pretty damn genius. I still think its his real name.
Like I said before, I think that the Dark Knight was just a manifestation of his power, just like the thing Xehanort’s Heartless had. I am sure that the powers of one’s various incarnations revolve around the original’s aspects. I think the dragon thing was summoned by Xehanort later resurfaced as Xemnas’ dragon form, as well as his armored core form. Same thing with “Ansem’s” guardian.
As for the keyblade - anybody can wield one, just as long as they have a heart. Dark, light, twilight - they can all manifest.
on 16 May 2007 at 11:55 pm 87. way to dawn
I knew those two guys’ names were Aqua and Ven, for all of those who say my comments at the battle with Terra(Enigmatic Soldier).
on 17 May 2007 at 12:12 am 88. vinan123
I guess Nomura got the name ‘Ventus’ from vent, which blows air.
on 17 May 2007 at 1:29 am 89. Ven
Guys were forgetting one more element Fire? Maybe Xehanort true name is is somthing to do with fire or maybe doffrent E.S sorri cant get a lot info school
on 17 May 2007 at 1:37 am 90. khfan
hi ven
on 17 May 2007 at 1:54 am 91. vinan123
I think that everybody is over doing it with the whole ‘being named after the elements’ thing. For all we know, Xehanort’s real name could be John Doe.
on 17 May 2007 at 2:03 am 92. Shakespeare
((Gah, if this shows up twice for you all, sorry…but it hasn’t shown up at all for me.))
I don’t think that ‘Xehanort’ is an anagram for anything in Latin…unless we actually find a relevant word, I’m going to say that it’s not. (Any suggestions on words?)
And like I said, it was an idea that randomly came to me. I was trying to find a way that Xehanort could not only be tied to an element, but still have Xehanort be his real name, and that was the best I could come up with. (Since Xehanort /must/ be his real name, since Terra uses it when you meet him…)
I think the fact that ‘Another’ rearranges to ‘No Heart’ is a really cool coincidence, since in the video ‘An Old Friend’ (KH-Vids.net), Xemnas types in ‘Another’ as the password on the computer in Hollow Bastion. I think that if ‘No Heart’ was intended, and if Xehanort had lost his heart before Ansem the Wise found him, Ansem would have noticed that his apprentice was lacking a heart, especially considering all the research they did on him.
(Besides, there’s plenty of other stuff that ‘ehanort’ can rearrange into. ‘Not Hear’, ‘No Earth’ (? Hm…), ‘Nor Heat’…uh…’Earthon’…I’m bad at word jumbles and stuff.)
on 17 May 2007 at 2:22 am 93. Cloud
i think xahanort is an anagram for no heart or another with an x, similar to the organization 13. Also, i think that the old guy is xahanort and that the xahanort from KH 1 + CoM is a younger version of him. Remember not much is known about his past, a possible theory is that xahanort was once good and was taken over by darkness or heartless, hence terra being master xahanorts avenger, hes avenging his takeover from the darkness/heartless which transformed him, so in essence, the evil xahanort wouldnt be the true xahanort. he may have fought terra earlier before the events of KH 1 and lost his memory and decreased in age or somthing until he was a boy (i think), and showed up at Radiant Gardens possibly in a similar fashion to how ora showed up at traverse town. This is just a simple theory and is not a main theory of mine, remebr that there is no real story yet so well just have to wait and see… more theories to come!!!
on 17 May 2007 at 2:22 am 94. bernaporto
i’m still not convinced that Xehanort would be Xehanort’s real name but it does make sense and i see no reason why not.
on 17 May 2007 at 2:25 am 95. bernaporto
it really got me confused that Terra both hated Xehanort and was his avenger but though that seems to explain it it seems a bit far fetched
on 17 May 2007 at 2:32 am 96. Shakespeare
I still don’t think that the phrasing implies that Terra is the avenger…I think he is the target of the vengeance (what with him turning evil and betraying his allies and such).
But hey, I could be wrong.
on 17 May 2007 at 2:35 am 97. bernaporto
so you think that terra is the target of the vegeance because he turns evil when is eyes become golden??
on 17 May 2007 at 6:29 am 98. OblivionRiku
Lol im the first to bring up the whole Xehanort = No Heart. and now everyones making it seemlike its a breakthru that they just discovered lol. And it also meaning “Another” really makes me wonder. Was that really wat he typed in the computer? i couldnt make out the letters.
im acually starting to rethink something in one my my theyories. I think Xehanort is the Red/Black knight (chaser) i mean think about it. b4 i said. i thought iut was the old man who ended up getting defeated by the chasers and forgot his memories so ansem took him in and got his memories back. now im starting to think that really it was the other person..Think about this. Xehanort means No Heart like i stated before. the red and black armor resembles sorta of a dark heartless armor..(NO HEART) Heartless! lol and also his name meaning another could explain when the bald guys splits into two..summoning ANOTHER person next to him. The red/black chaser who i now beilive is Xehanort…hell for all we know..They both could be Xehanort!!!
on 17 May 2007 at 6:30 am 99. Shakespeare
No, I think he’s the target of vengeance because he’s an enemy of Xehanort. (When I said ‘him’, I meant Xehanort…should have made that clearer, but they both want revenge…it’s just that Terra probably has a real reason to want revenge, that being Xehanort turning against his former allies.)
on 17 May 2007 at 6:31 am 100. OblivionRiku
Check post #56, talks more about my Anagram theory.
Read some of my theories. they might make sence, all of them are on page 2.
on 17 May 2007 at 6:34 am 101. Shakespeare
OblivionRiku, people have known the ‘No Heart’ thing ever since we knew Xehanort’s name. And he does type ‘Another’…it’s in blocky letters, but if you pause it and look, you can make it out.
And I have been saying for a while that the man in the ‘Heartless Armor’ is Xehanort…but the old man could quite possibly be Xehanort from the future, corrupting his past self in some sort of strange cycle and/or a bid for power in the future that he knows (by changing the past, he would alter his presence, just like Maleficent and Pete did in the Hall of the Cornerstone by getting into Timeless River). As I’ve been saying, the realm where the battle in the KH2:FM+ video takes place might be completely separate from time, so such a thing could be possible.
on 17 May 2007 at 6:40 am 102. Shakespeare
Oblivion, I finally got around to answering your posts in Post 69…I hope I don’t need to reiterate. (It’s on page 3, btw.) But yeah, the names and the anagrams have been known for a while, it’s been on the internet for, like, 2 years now…and the game gives you the tools to figure it out for yourself by showing you what the apprentices names were in one of the Secret Ansem Reports, and by showing you that Roxas is Sora’s Nobody.
Nomura likes to make us figure things out on our own…lol
on 17 May 2007 at 12:02 pm 103. vinan123
So if Ansem only started out with six apprentices, where did the rest of Organization 13 (besides Roxas) come from?
on 17 May 2007 at 12:31 pm 104. Ace of Diamonds
Organization XIII is made up of Nobodies. The leader being Xehanort’s Nobody, Xemnas. We all know that Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Zexion, & Lexeaus, aren’t their real names. It’s Braig, Dilan, Ienzo, Even, & Eleaus. I believe Xigbar & Lexeaus were suppoed to be scouting new members, and when they did, they conducted the same experiments on themselves to turn themselves into Nobodies. Oblivion Riku, I don’t mean to sound like a jackass, but like I said in my previous post, I think the design on the Dark Soldier’s chest is just part of the costume. It does resemble a Heartless symbol, but I don’t think it connects that much to the story. I’m starting to believe that Xehanort is a character not yet to be seen. We obviously saw him for a brief moment in Kingdom Hearts 2, but who knew what he looked like in the past. The Keyblade War may have happened in the past, but not that far back into the past. I already stated this, but I wanna ensure it. Isn’t it strange how that in the 2 separate Secret Endings, the shadowy figure looked to have long hair, but now is just bald? What happened to the Keyblade the Armored Knights picked up? The Kingdom Key, The Way to Dawn, and Mickey’s Keyblade. Notice how, each of the Armored Soldiers used the Keyblade they marched into battle with. Because, I don’t think they would’ve been beaten the way they were if they fought with 2 Keyblades. The figure in both Secret Endings has to be Xehanort. The last time we saw the Old Man, he was rising up into the Blue Kingdom Hearts. Later, in the future, Ansem the Wise found him as a youthful man. Maybe Kingdom Hearts has more power to it.
on 17 May 2007 at 1:03 pm 105. Riku
“Another with No Heart” has been around since Nomura himself said it in mid-2006 in an interview:
on 17 May 2007 at 1:32 pm 106. Shakespeare
Yeah, the other members came after the six apprentices formed the group. The neophytes don’t get much love from the older members, though…there’s a lot of resentment in the top 6 towards the younger members, like Marluxia.
on 17 May 2007 at 2:58 pm 107. Tami
man, Terra sounds so strange to me cause in my language (portuguese) it means earth… and ven’s a nick? Maybe to ventilus and it could be something like wind in latin ^^’
on 17 May 2007 at 3:09 pm 108. Ven
Yeh riku I think rite to like U know Bald guy part were summons another guy from Him Look another aka Xehanort and look No Heart rite maybe can make people with No Hearts like made nobodys nah thats stupid But Im sure Bald Guy is Xehanort and He summons another or maybe Xehanort not real name who ever knows =] rember I think That Xehanort made Org 13 then desract Sora from finding him what he’s up to guyys still dont know really stuff about Ansem to… sorri not good at spelling =P
on 17 May 2007 at 5:57 pm 109. Riku
Tami, my advice would be to actually read the interview you’re posting on:
The 3 armored people’s names take the shape of different properties of the world, “Water, Wind, and Earth”.
on 17 May 2007 at 9:36 pm 110. heartlessxxx[cole]
they look like the bad guys in power rangers…
on 17 May 2007 at 9:37 pm 111. heartlessxxx[cole]
….is anyone there………………………..
on 17 May 2007 at 9:40 pm 112. heartlessxxx[cole]
i enlarged the pitrue and i think,just maybe ..
on 17 May 2007 at 9:42 pm 113. heartlessxxx[cole]
u know how roxis is a half of sora ..ven might be a part of sora
on 17 May 2007 at 9:51 pm 114. heartlessxxx[cole]
u~know how that guy can split his body into
think about re’q ……….his body looked
like…bald headed guys split
on 17 May 2007 at 10:27 pm 115. jose
man ireally wish they could make an artwork of ven aqua and terra.
on 17 May 2007 at 10:27 pm 116. Hearts of Darkness
Hey guy! ready for me to make a Naruto (the anime) refrence? Sasuka wanted to kill his older bother because his brother killed Sasuke’s whole family (and everyone around him for that matter). After that, he called himself Itachi’s, or his older bothers, avenger. this totally supports my idea that Xahanort and the three knights were all friends at one point. But then Xahanort could have destroyed the island when he was overcome by darkness and now Terra just wants to kill him.
Is this any good? P.S., sorry for the Naruto refrence.
on 17 May 2007 at 10:29 pm 117. Dinnomicx
come to rumors please and don’t ask why…
on 17 May 2007 at 11:19 pm 118. Shakespeare
I don’t read Naruto (I stopped buying Shonen Jump around the Chunin exams), but that phrasing still strikes me as odd, since (to me, anyway) it implies that Sasuke is seeking vengeance on his [Itachi’s] behalf, and thus ‘avenging’ him. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying it doesn’t sound right to me according to my interpretation of the word ‘avenger’.
on 18 May 2007 at 1:00 am 119. Hi
theory:i think that terra can have a relation with the bald guy but im not sure with riku i thought i saw a resemblence between xehanort and terra you see the bald guys eyes turn yellow and terras also i hear and so i think that if the bald guy is xehanort and without the x means no heart and if terras someway related to riku in someway possibly having something to do with rikus nobody like ven having relation with roxas so maybe terra is somehow xehanort like he somehow got to become one of ansems apprentices in a time when he got a little older and his hair turned white or grey or whatever it is and eventually in the future he found a way to go back in time for some reason and xehanort is terras nobody like his darkside cause you see riku gave in to the darkness like his darkside having no heart and though if the bald guy is xehanort meaning no heart than how does he make a heartless and if you need a heart to weild a keyblade how does he unless he still does maybe and makes a heartless but his heartless may be able to hold a keyblade because its terras nobody and he could hold a keyblade and it was different because its a keyblade of the dark maybe having something to do with when mickey and riku were in the dark realm and terra is the side of light when it comes to xehanort or something so he held a different keyblade and you see that he holds rikus way to the dawn keyblade also besides the one we saw him holding in final mix and things like that
on 18 May 2007 at 1:26 am 120. vinan123
Hearts of Darkness, I think you got confused. Sasuke is trying to avenge his clan not Itachi. On a similar subject, have you noticed that Sasuke is a lot like Riku? Both of them have been blinded by something that caused they wanted, causing them to become evil. Also, both of them got their asses kicked by their best friends. The only difference is that Sasuke is STILL evil. By the way, if Terra is a good guy and hates Xehanort then why did he fight Sora?
on 18 May 2007 at 2:15 am 121. Shakespeare
About Terra fighting Sora…either he was blinded by his rage against Xehanort, or it was a test of sorts. I mean, Sephiroth has no reason to fight Sora…he’s just minding his own business on a cliff, waiting for Cloud to blunder by.
But yeah, not everyone that you fight in KH is hostile to Sora. Hercules certainly isn’t, for instance.
on 18 May 2007 at 3:01 am 122. Ace of Diamonds
But, when he fought Sora, he mentioned that he didn’t choose him to weild The Keyblade. Who did he choose? Then, he repeatedly said Xehanort. He must’ve wanted Xehanort to weild The Keyblade to take his heart the same way he took the hearts of the people of his world long ago. I still am not convinced that The Dark Soldier was Xehanort. I’m sure his appearance is important to the story, but he was just there.
on 18 May 2007 at 3:39 am 123. Shakespeare
I think that Xehanort /was/ the one he chose, but he went down the path of Darkness, and that’s probably one of the reasons that Terra has such a vendetta against Xehanort.
It’s very much like Anakin Skywalker…he was the Chosen One, but he turned to the dark side. (If you don’t like the Star Wars comparison, Riku is exactly the same. He was chosen to wield the Keyblade, but he accepted Darkness.)
on 18 May 2007 at 8:55 pm 124. Tami
I READ, Riku. I just said that it seems odd that it is in my language and I’m used to seeing Japanese names or english not a name that actually means an “object” in my own mother language!
on 18 May 2007 at 9:10 pm 125. vinan123
Shakespeare, I know that people like Hercules and Leon aren’t evil but it’s a different case for them they were fighting in a tournament. As for Sephiroth, he actually did have a reason for fighting Sora. He didn’t exactly say it out loud, but he wanted to kill Sora to get the Keyblade.
I wonder if Xehanort is Sora’s father? That would explain why Terra wanted to fight Sora, and why he kept saying Xehanort’s name over and over again. Maybe they both look alike in some sort of way.
on 18 May 2007 at 10:00 pm 126. Shakespeare
Leon attacked Sora at the beginning of KH before they knew each other…his reason pertained to the Keyblade as well. Pretty much everything in KH happens because of the Keyblade, not because people don’t like Sora or something. (He’s a pretty likable kid, anyway, so that’s not the problem.)
And I don’t know that Xehanort would be old enough to have kids…realistically, anyway, and considering that this game is a joint project with DISNEY. Ansem the Wise made mention that if Xehanort acted immature in any way, it was because he was so young. He was probably a teenager when Ansem the Wise found him (as Terra appears to be the oldest of the Chasers), and that doesn’t seem old enough to have kids. (I know that it’s possible, but we’re talking about a Disney game. They would NOT let that fly.)
on 18 May 2007 at 10:05 pm 127. Shakespeare
Tami, what are the words for ‘wind’ and ‘water’ in Portuguese? Portuguese is Latin based, so it makes sense that it would show up. (I believe ‘Terra’ is French for ‘earth’, as well. A lot of southern European languages have Latin roots.)
Names in German wouldn’t be so mysterious…hm, I wonder what element ‘Wasser’ and ‘Erde’ are tied to…? (And let’s not forget my favorite…’Wind’.)
on 18 May 2007 at 10:55 pm 128. Mohrphorm
Latin is the root of all Romance languages - I don’t beleive any of its descendant languages would be used.
As for the dark knight being Xehanort, that isn’t a Heartless symbol on its chest. But think of this: There are two types of Heartless - Pureblood and Emblem. IF Xehanort is the Dark Knight, and he just lost his memories, maybe his memories gradually returned to him, and he saw himself, and was inspired to create the emblem’s design. The “Another” and “No Heart” concept go well with him - I never thought of it before it was mentioned by someone else. However, if the Dark Knight is Xehanort, then who is the old guy? Terra absolutely hates Xehanort for something he did. Seeing that the Dark Knight was just summoned, I still firmly believe that the old guy reincarnates as Xehanort, despite what I afforementioned.
on 18 May 2007 at 11:21 pm 129. Hearts of Darkness
To vinan123/post #120: yes I have. amine usually have the same type of characters in all of them. Like a hothead, or an Emo kid or the avenger. But I wasn’t confused. I know Sasuke is trying to avenge his clan, but he does call him itachi’s avenger. that’s why I think Terra might have the same background as Sasuke, like how Sasuke’s older bother destroyed Sasuke’s clan. Maybe Terra must avenge that of which Xahanort destroyed too, becoming Xahanort’s ‘avenger’. I’m just sayin’.
Again vinan123/post #125: WHAAAAAAAAT????? No way can Xahanort be Sora’s father! If that was ture than that means that Sora killed his father twice! Yeah really father/son love right there.
on 18 May 2007 at 11:32 pm 130. Mohrphorm
To #129: No, it just means that he killed two insane incarnations of his father, who if he is Xehanort, would probably be alot crazier than the fakes.
on 19 May 2007 at 2:09 am 131. Shakespeare
Well, Luke Skywalker tried to kill his father without knowing it was his father…but Sora lived with his parents on Destiny Islands. I doubt that Xehanort is his father.
And I have suggested that it’s possible that both the old man and the knight in ‘Heartless Armor’ (I only call it that because there’s nothing else to call it, really…there isn’t a Heartless Emblem on it, but it certainly has the color theme) are Xehanort. Ansem was a magic user, so it stands to reason that Xehanort had some pretty powerful magic behind him (perhaps that’s what Ansem the Wise meant when he said that Xehanort had extraordinary, superhuman power?), so a future Xehanort with even more power could find a way into the realm where the crossroads are. I mean, Sora and company went into the past, too, why can’t Xehanort?
on 19 May 2007 at 3:24 am 132. Mohrphorm
Hmmm… this is all very possible. As of KH2, no incarnation of Xehanort exists any longer, unless ANOTHER bad guy is revealed. The only mechanic left is the soul, but I won’t get into that… too much speculation.
Like I have said before - the knight is akin to “Ansem’s” guardian. The two of them are one and the same, it just makes him all the more dangerous. Mickey isn’t cartoony like he is in Steamboat Willie, so that may imply that this isn’t as far back as we think it is. Now that I think about it, Nomura mentioned that one of the stories that remain is what Mickey did in the realm of darkness. Is it possible that these events took place? In FM+, the portal to the Terra fight is in the keystone room. Maybe this implies that we need to shift our focus over to Mickey…
on 19 May 2007 at 6:06 am 133. Shakespeare
I already posted a lengthy reply regarding the soul in Nomura games any why it’s not a third ‘form’ (along with Heartless and Nobodies)…
And there are no incarnations left, but since the two that existed were destroyed in the proper order, Xehanort has returned to life, most likely somewhere in Radiant Garden.
on 19 May 2007 at 2:42 pm 134. Mohrphorm
I see how that can work, but the only surviving parts of him left is the heart and soul. Unlike those two (I’m assuming with the soul), the body is destroyed completely. It doesn’t return to anywhere. Rather, a new body is formed. This how I beleive old Xehanort (assumed) became young Xehanort - the classical cycle of rebirth. I assume the same happened for Aqua and Ven.
I have no doubt that the soul will have an important role in the next game. Maybe not as a new set of enemies, but something else. Judging by the fact that Nobodies are supposedly destined to fade into darkness, despite not having a heart, perhaps it is the soul that govern’s life’s balance between light and darkness.
on 19 May 2007 at 3:38 pm 135. Shakespeare
But the body DOES return somewhere. If you defeat a Nobody after you’ve defeated it’s corresponding Heartless, then the heart and the body recombine. Nomura says so in Another Report (Pages 29 and 30).
“In the case of a Nobody being defeated, it’s a little more complicated. If the above mentioned hearts are liberated, they return to their original form.”
(Note how he always uses the word ‘defeated’, not ‘destroyed’.)
When you beat a Nobody, they disappear into Darkness. But the same happens when you defeat a Heartless, and you certainly aren’t destroying that heart…it just goes somewhere else, waiting to reunite with its missing body.
Anyway, old Xehanort and young Xehanort…I think they’re two separate entities, but still the same person, very much like Timeless River Pete and Main Storyline Pete existing together in the game (and even meeting and fighting one another).
on 19 May 2007 at 3:52 pm 136. Mohrphorm
Hmmm… I see what you mean now. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nomura used the time travel concept again. Nomura did make a cryptic statement when asked about whether the ending movie took place in the past or future… Maybe, Xehanort was changing the past in the video.
on 19 May 2007 at 4:25 pm 137. bernaporto
Shakespear- In portuguese wind is Vento and Water is Agua. almost the same as Latin erth is Terra exactly the same.
Also i would like to say that though i don’t believe that any of the know characters are Soras father weve never seen his parents, he’s never talked about them. All we did as hear his moms voice the day he disapeared on the islands.
on 19 May 2007 at 4:37 pm 138. Ace of Diamonds
Now, the story says that before Radiant Garden was turned into Maleficent’s Hollow Bastion, Ansem the Wise found Xehanort, near death with absolutely no recollection of his past life. Under the guidance of Ansem the Wise, Xehanort began to learn at an alarming rate, even Ansem said he possessed SuperHuman abilities. Xehanort began to grow more interested, particularly of the heart, and how powerful it is. He offered to be a test subject to try and gain his memories back. But Ansem could see that Xehanort grew into Darkness. Xehanort, along with Zexion, Lexaeus, Xigbar, Vexen, and Dilan left Ansem the Wise, and like Xehanort, abandoned their bodies to Darkness. Now, I’m not sure what caused Ansem to leave Radiant Garden, and have Maleficent turn it into what she did, but I guess Xehanort, well Xemnas & The Organization were after him seemingly because Ansem might know a bit about Xehanort. Here’s where it gets confusing. Ansem found Xehanort long before Sora’s adventure began. This leads me to believe that Xehanort had to grow up to become as youthful as he looks in the photos. Terra relates to Riku, Ven relates to Sora & Roxas, and Aqua relates to Kairi. So, either something happened to turn Xehanort younger, Xehanort was none of the characters in the ending, but was hurt during the war, or maybe(don’t bash me), Ven could be Xehanort. I mean, Ven was frozen after all. He lost ALL his memories including his name. Xehanort could’ve been the only name he remembered. If all this happened before Sora’s adventure, Xehanot had to be at a young age when he was found.
on 19 May 2007 at 4:43 pm 139. Ace of Diamonds
I had to repost this because I got the “your comment is awaiting moderation” and thought nobody saw it.
From where I left off, remember when The Old Man froze Ven. You saw a portion of Darkness within that sequence. Since The Old Man knew he wouldn’t be alive forever, he must’ve taken his heart, or soul for that matter, and left Ven with nothing, but his body. The Old Man must’ve used the heart he stole and invade Ansem the Wise much like Ansem invaded Riku’s body. I know it might sound like a stupid theory, but I did think alot about this.
on 19 May 2007 at 5:31 pm 140. Ven
Hey guys ever think that E.S bad guys? like really maybe there savers of darkness rember Kingdom Hearts 2 Riku says if this place what really is lets be darkness then sora replys Yh Light side is done now… Im just saying maybe guys talking about Bad people, and isnt werid thats were not asking ? about Bald guy and is another and notice Bald guy has key chain? Like we still foucesing on Xehanort we dont even know thts real name possbly is because Naurma said so? we should be foucesing where they at there backgrounds and Bald guy and Kingdom Hearts Org 13 because we really donno Know what Kingdom Hearts is we know it gives invisble power we donno who made it? (maybe bald guy) seruisly we donno mutch about Riku like what has he be doing thease kh games when playing as sora
we donno who this glowing eye person is click on my name to see well thats all I got Im just saying lets drop with E.S and Sora ok
on 19 May 2007 at 6:58 pm 141. SoraQueenKH#1 fan
sorry this is out of no where but does Ven like die???? hhaaa. sry. that was sad to watch. anywayy I dont understand either how Terra could be Sora’s father. by the way Aqua looks like Kairi so i think they could be related also. shes pretty.
on 19 May 2007 at 7:30 pm 142. jeff
hey go to www.kingdom hearts 3.us/ it shows an example of a resemblence between xehanort and terra saying they are possibly brothers or something and has some pretty good points to prove that they maybe are and a ton of other stuff.
on 19 May 2007 at 7:33 pm 143. jeff
sorry about that go: www.kingdomhearts3.us/
on 19 May 2007 at 7:54 pm 144. Mohrphorm
Basing everything of of appearance isn’t very accurate, especially since IM, they look only vaguely alike. Ven/Sora and Aqua/Kairi have a more comparable appearance. Only thing is, why is Terra pertaining to Riku?
on 19 May 2007 at 8:16 pm 145. vinan123