Riku on 01 Apr 2007 06:58 pm
FM: Enigmatic Soldier Battle
“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
Thanks to Xevorili.
Final Mix: Secret Boss (Enigmatic Soldier) Defeated! (Aftermath)
Enigmatic Soldier: I see. Your strength is… What I sensed in you is…
(When returning for a rematch:)
Enigmatic Soldier: So you have returned, young Keyblade user. I have no further power to give you. All I have is my hatred towards Xehanort. Will you allow me to engrave that into your heart?
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on 18 Apr 2007 at 7:37 pm 101. The OathKeeper
One more thing…lol that fight you had must have been veryyyyy frustanting…You took him down to 1 hp and then he beat you…Happenned to me once too
on 18 Apr 2007 at 8:31 pm 102. DarkWielder33
I also have a question about a few things number 2 never explained but were never or hardly brought up.
Why do Kairi and Riku get a keyblade?
Why are both Riku and King Mickey wearing Organization XIII cloakswhen they first appear in KHII?
and Why do some Nobodies (Organization XIII) have a human form and some just have a form sort of like a heartless?
If you find out the answers to these questions tell me?
thirtythree792@aim.com
on 18 Apr 2007 at 9:50 pm 103. A Chosen Keyblade Master
darkwielder33:
1. read haiku’s long post and then donovon’s
2. riku and king mickey were undercover….sorta…
3. i kinda forget this but it was explained in the game. it was like if they are stronger then they have a stronger form, more humanistic…
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:15 am 104. Reese
I wonder what that message was from the king at the end of numbuh II
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:21 am 105. Reese
I’ve got a question, why does the one knight hate Xeanort so much?
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:24 am 106. KevKH
becuz hes Aero…. the tall knoght in the secrwet movies…..hes mad becuz they got beaten by him
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:29 am 107. Reese
Thanks, so that tall knight’s name is aero
on 19 Apr 2007 at 3:04 am 108. Sora210
i think that the ps3’s gonna bomb and KH3 is gonna be on the 360
on 19 Apr 2007 at 3:05 am 109. Sora210
and whoes Aero
on 19 Apr 2007 at 10:35 am 110. Sephiroth
In reply to comment 67 ETC:
The bald guy is obviously related to Xhenorat one way or another considering that in the final battle wen u vs Him he can split in 2 while he owns sora his other Copy or w/e is owning riku(playing as u)So the bald guy may just b a noobody and he created a concentrated Heartless form of himself
on 19 Apr 2007 at 10:36 am 111. Sephiroth
In reply to comment 87 (woops ETC:
The bald guy is obviously related to Xhenorat one way or another considering that in the final battle wen u vs Him he can split in 2 while he owns sora his other Copy or w/e is owning riku(playing as u)So the bald guy may just b a noobody and he created a concentrated Heartless form of himself
on 19 Apr 2007 at 11:08 am 112. Thimien
ok theres no prof that the bald guy is Xehanort, if thers one thing that KH are good for, is xplanations:
the basics: a mans life is taken a keyblade or another hearless, what hpns next.
The heart goes to Kingdom Hearts, and a another heartless is born, leaving the sould and the body = nobody.
If the heart was a strong one, then the heartless and the nobody can still retain human form, not yet xplained why.
So does are the 2 forms that are left behind, and Sora had killed both of Xehanorts forms…
Only 2 people have had their hearts returned in the game, and does are Sora and Kairi, but still the nobodys stayed separate, dont know why, so they are the only 2 that met their own nobodys in the game.
So with both Xehanorts forms dead, how can it be him again? these are facts xplain within the games, wich would prove not to be him, obviasly they can come up with a story line that can make this possible, but it better be a good damn story!!! >
on 19 Apr 2007 at 7:47 pm 113. sorasbestfriend
well actually yea itd b stupid to put kh3 on ps3 its a load of crap and 2 it wont b on the 360. mayb they will still keep it on the PS2 cuz its not really last-gen its morw 2day-gen lol
on 20 Apr 2007 at 2:44 am 114. way to dawn
I believe Donovan’s idea and I think that the old man
is Xehanort with his memories and powers restored. For the people who played Kingdom Hearts, where was “Ansem”, Xehanort’s Heartless, defeated? In Kingdom Hearts (or near Kingdom Hearts). Where was Xemnas defeated? In Kingdom Hearts. So, since they were both defeated in Kingdom Hearts, I think that they weren’t killed (being defeated and being killed aren’t the same thing) and somehow met and fused to being a whole Xehanort with his memories. Or something along those lines.
on 20 Apr 2007 at 2:57 am 115. way to dawn
Oh yeah, I also think that the Nobody and the Heartless can separate at will or something like that. Remember, Xemnas can create a clone of himself? Well maybe that’s just a weaker version of Xehanort’s power. Oh before I forget, take a look at the translation of what the “Chaser” or Knight said when you first fight him. Notice that the first 2 words he says are both capitalized and look like names. I believe that Aqua is the girl with the blue hair and Ven is the guy that everyone says that he’s Roxas or looks like Roxas.
on 20 Apr 2007 at 11:32 pm 116. DarkWielder33
Does anyone know who the three armored soldiers are?
on 21 Apr 2007 at 1:56 am 117. ChainWielder33
this is darkwielder juz in case, is the secret ending in kingdom hearts 2 a preview of final mix or kingdom hearts 3
on 21 Apr 2007 at 2:42 am 118. way to dawn
Everyone go to the Another Report page and go to pages 26 & 27. It has an interview and explains some unexplained details.
on 21 Apr 2007 at 3:45 am 119. Shakespeare
Interesting theory, Donovan, but I think a lot of people have the potential to be Wielders. That’s why there can be Dark Wielders in the first place; it’s just that they have to find their own Keyblade. Besides, it’s painfully obvious that there isn’t only 1 Keyblade or something, since one, tons of people have them (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Mickey, the knights, the old man, the old man’s accomplice…perhaps there’s a Wielder for every Keyblade?) and two, there’s tons of them in both the KH2 secret videos.
The reason that no one could use Sora’s Keyblade was because it chose him. (I use a similar concept when describing Masamune; Cloud himself said that only Sephiroth could use it, and in legend, Masamune is a holy sword. Therefore, it’s not so much that Sephiroth is the only one capable of using a 7-10 foot sword, it’s that no one else can use THAT 7-10 foot sword.)
To 116 (DarkWielder33):
The girl is named ‘Aqua’, the frozen guy who looks like Roxas is ‘Ven’, and the third one is the Enigmatic Soldier from KH2FM+. I’ve postulated in the past that the E.S.’s name is a masculine Latin form of ‘earth’. (Since Sora is Japanese for ’sky’ and Ven is Latin for ‘air/wind’, Kairi is Japanese for ‘ocean’ and Aqua is Latin for ‘water’, and Riku is Japanese for ‘land/shore’, it follows the pattern. Xehanort’s name fits in with the 4 Chasers in that, if you remove the X, his name can be rearranged to spell ‘Another’. Then, for when he loses his memory, his becomes an unknown, ‘Another X’.)
And the videos are previews of ‘KH3′, just as ‘Another Side, Another Story’ and ‘Another Side, Another Story (Deep Dive)’ were previews for KH2.
on 22 Apr 2007 at 12:39 am 120. tkirkjr
okay, the girl soldier is aqua, the soldier who looks like roxas is ven, the taller soldier is unknown.
theory 1:i believe that since xehanort is the same spelled Another, he may be the old man AND the dark soldier. heartless and there nobodies can be together even though they don’t have a heart. so he was once a soldier who gave his heart to darkness who created a nobody(old man) and a heartless(dark soldier who comes out of old man). the taller soldier can not be xehanort because when you fight him, he says he hates xehanort.
theory 2: Xehanort is the taller soldier because his nobody(xemnas) went into castle oblivion holds the room of sleeping, where either aqua or ven are located. he feels a bond in them because he once fought with them. when the old man opened kingdom hearts, you can see the tall soldier’s eyes turn hazel, which might mean he gave all his heart into sealing for his 2 companions. his heart given to the darkness to seal the deep darkness of kingdom hearts. The main evil guy of kingdom hearts 3 would be the old man and his accomplice the dark knight who want to try again to open kingdom hearts.
any comments?
on 22 Apr 2007 at 3:56 am 121. ryan
ok. You guys have some valid points. But I’m here to state the obvious. First, the crossroads. Southwest Asia is also considered a crossroads. Second, keyblade war. Asia? War in Iraq anyone. My third reason is the lost two. Well one of them is obviously Osama. That’s all I have now but I’ll keep you updated!
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:04 pm 122. sorasbestfriend
wow ryan ur pathetic
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:07 pm 123. mKh
ryan is an idiot
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:07 pm 124. sorasbestfriend
Donovan u copy-cat! ppl ive seen that thing 1,000 times on other sites he didnt make that up and we can tell the chasers r good KH2FM+ ending ppl gosh
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:09 pm 125. sorasbestfriend
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ryan. srry ppl for double posting its so funny Osama in KH! LOL omg - dies on laughter -
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:15 pm 126. crystal
the final mix when you fight the soldier is the place going to be the same when kh3 comes out
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:16 pm 127. mKh
hey crystal
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:21 pm 128. crystal
hey mkh
on 22 Apr 2007 at 9:19 pm 129. sorasbestfriend
JD yours is pretty good it makes it sound awesome mine is ok but i think yours or mine have a chance
on 23 Apr 2007 at 11:09 pm 130. Shakespeare
Yay, time to chip in my theory!
I still think that the old man is sort of like Darth Sidious (Emperor Palpatine), and Xehanort (the man in the Heartless armor) is his Darth Vader. At first, Aqua, Ven, the Enigmatic Soldier and Xehanort were all working for good (though not all 4 were presumably of the alignment of Light). Perhaps there’s a sort of equivalent to the Jedi Council for Keyblade Wielders…who knows? Perhaps that’s the purpose of the Chasers? To find those who are potential Wielders and train them to fight for the light? For the purpose of this theory, we will assume the aforementioned postulation is true.
So Aqua, Ven, E.S. and Xehanort are the four Chasers, and it’s their duty to protect Kingdom Hearts by training new Keyblade Wielders. However, as we all know, the lure of power is great, and Xehanort, already inclined toward using the Darkness, would be easy to seduce with the suggestion of more power through the Darkness.
That’s where the old man comes in and begins turning Xehanort against the other Chasers. Just as how Anakin was more powerful than pretty much any other Jedi, but was easily influenced, Xehanort and the old man were powerful enough to overwhelm the other three Chasers.
To continue the Star Wars parallel, since it’s very easy to draw (it’s practically the epitome of the Hero’s Cycle, and one of the most well-known, after all), the E.S. is like Yoda. Though the other two Chasers were (presumably) slain (Aqua’s armor is hidden deep under Hollow Bastion, as we can see in the clips from FM+, and Xemnas seems to go there frequently to gloat about his victory; one can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice as the subtitles read ‘Hisashiburi na…tomo yo’, “Long time no see…’friend’”.), the E.S. went on in exile, hidden away in that portal in the Hall of the Cornerstone.
Something even more worrying for the future is this: If you check the translated pages of Another Report, when a Heartless is killed, the heart returns to it’s body. If the body is not available (is a Nobody), then it ‘waits’. If a Nobody is killed and it’s Heartless was killed first, then they recombine normally. If the Heartless is still at large, then the Nobody disappears. This spells an unfortunate end for most of the Organization…but Xehanort’s Heartless was killed in KH1, and his Nobody in KH2.
Logically, it follows that now Xehanort’s Heart can recombine with his body, and Xehanort will return.
on 24 Apr 2007 at 4:01 pm 131. sora
i just found out that my name which is Eoghan means sora in japanese yay for me
on 27 Apr 2007 at 12:21 am 132. Axel
Man thats the most biggest keyblade I ever saw.I wonder is Roxas with those knights?
on 27 Apr 2007 at 6:32 pm 133. down in the dumps
MAN THAT GUY LOOKS TOO HARD TO BEAT.
STILL I REALY WISH TO HAVE THAT KH2 FM+
SO I CAN HAVE A CHANCE AT HIM
on 27 Apr 2007 at 6:37 pm 134. down in the dumps
ANY BODY KNOWS WHERE TO GET THAT GAME?
PLEASE I NEED AN ANSWER
MY MESSENGER IS THE FOLLOWING
sora_thekey@hotmail.com
on 27 Apr 2007 at 10:59 pm 135. master hearts
after much study i figured out that roxas is the one you people call ven and that ven is really the chaser with brown hair and aqua being the woman with blue hair
on 27 Apr 2007 at 10:59 pm 136. master hearts
either way roxas is still roxas
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:00 pm 137. master hearts
and the ES is really vens pedicessor
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:02 pm 138. master hearts
according to shakespeares theory the chasers were at one point taught by someone else and the ES had accually passed his hatred of xeahnort to ven
UNDERSTAND NOW?
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:03 pm 139. master hearts
please respond to my previous posts if you think my theory is valid
on 28 Apr 2007 at 10:36 pm 140. GERALD
THE GUY THAT GOT THE SOLIDER DOWN TO 1 HP I WILL GIVE HIM LOTS OF RESPECT AND HE HAS LOTS OF STRENGHT TO DEFEAT HIM GOOD JOB!
on 29 Apr 2007 at 2:59 am 141. Kejax
yes i think that the guy in the one video looked like roxas but i think hes actually from another of nomuras new games im gonna do a bit more research on that
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:38 pm 142. Trace
OMG Shakespeare, that’s a really good hypothesis. The best I have ever come across, to the point where I believe it to be 97.589759% true. Seriously, you may be on to something, but what of the aforementioned “memory” of Xehanort? Another thing that bugs me is Xemnas at the finale of KH2, where the three meet in that strange dimension. Something tells me that wasn’t the same Xemnas they had been fighting, the same material being, but maybe his ethereal self, as if they had gone to the darkness nobodies are believed to retreat to, the same realm Namine had feared. I am only postulating enough to get under people’s skin and make them venture further into whatever they may believe, but nonetheless, this talk about Chasers and the Keyblade War is intriguing. We can at least assume the ‘Birth by Sleep’ event occurs in the same timeline as KH2, due to Sora’s interaction with the Enigmatic Soldier… right?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:44 pm 143. Trace
Also, is there a video up of Xemnas and this Chaser armour that belonged to the alleged Aqua in ‘Birth by Sleep’?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:48 pm 144. Trace
LOL ALSO, did you know that a Chaser is not only a hunter or literally someone chasing someone else, but according to the fabulous Wikipedia, a Chaser is “a person who produces weapons, mainly for war”?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 11:50 pm 145. sorasbestfriend
omg duh! probably not but this a theory. Birth by Sleep. i know ppl have known that b4 but listen to this 1. while sora was asleep he had a dream about a great battle or something and while he was sleeping something in his heart caused his certain dreams to b BORN. therefore creating the battle and mickey went there ( the battle ) after KH2 and needed help so he sent a letter to riku and sora that he needed help\.therefore BIRTH BY SLEEP. probably not but maybe.
on 30 Apr 2007 at 12:29 am 146. MasterKeyblade777
Wait, is Aqua and Vein both the soilders that the enigma soilder was fighting with in the secret ending?
on 30 Apr 2007 at 2:02 am 147. Shakespeare
Ven cannot be Roxas (Nomura said that the 3 knights were new characters), and Ven cannot be the E.S., because it doesn’t make much sense for him to call his OWN name when trying to figure out who Sora is. He’s trying to identify him, which is why he first calls out his comrades’ names. (Perhaps that thing he did with his eyes at the end of the video made him blind after the fight?) He calls out ‘Aqua…Ven…’ and when he gets no response but knows that the person before him has a Keyblade, he’s confused. He KNOWS the person there isn’t Xehanort (presumably, Xehanort would just try to kill him instead of letting him talk), but doesn’t know who else it could be.
But now I have to re-read my theory…XDD
OK. Done. Now, considering part of Master Hearts’ other theory, about the Chasers having been trained, consider this: At the end of the first video, they all go pick up the Keyblades used by Sora, Riku and Mickey.
My theory is that they were about to set out and find the ones that each of those Keyblades had chosen, so that they could train them to be the next generation of Chasers. (Xehanort, the fourth Chaser, is missing, and thus a fourth Keyblade, Kairi’s, is missing as well.) According to this theory, the E.S. would have trained Sora, Ven would have trained Riku, and Aqua would have trained Mickey. (Ironically, this would leave Xehanort, the one who turns evil, to train Kairi, a Princess of Heart.)
on 30 Apr 2007 at 3:39 am 148. ChainWielder33
Where did the three soldiers come from and where did the old man come from and if only sora riku and king mickey hold those key blades why can the three soldiers also hold them?
on 30 Apr 2007 at 4:17 am 149. Trace
Shakespeare’s theories sound more sound by the moment. After viewing the two videos concerning the Room of Sleep (Xigbar & Zexion) and Xemnas’ trip to said room and his interaction with Aqua’s armour, I’m looking to Shakes for more info. His idea that Xehanort was a Chaser, thus an ally/FRIEND to Aqua makes sense. I’ve been thinking… Xehanort is Another X or No Heart X, isn’t it? Isn’t that a Nobodies name? Something-something-X? Does that mean that Ansem the Wise’s apprentice, Xehanort, was already a nobody? I’m trying to think… There was a guy involved with “the people who wield keys” that lost his memory, according to Xigbar, and may have also lost his heart, in essence creating a Heartless and a Nobody… Wait, Ansem from KH1 was Xehanort’s Heartless, meaning Xehanort lost his heart in order for that Ansem to live. But if Xehanort was Heartless or a Nobody already, what heart could he have lost? And what about that name? I’m sorry I can’t postulate any hypotheses, but I’ll just provide a bunch of stuff for Shakes to sort through, okay? ^.^ Birth by sleep must relate to that room. The only thing that comes from sleeping is dreaming, right? And when you think of heart and body, don’t you also think of mind and soul? Is that the theme they are going with here? So many queries and I am no closer to anything that sounds plausible!
on 30 Apr 2007 at 5:10 pm 150. Trace
I had an epiphane (sp?) of sorts here. When I postulated that Xehanort is a Nobody’s name, I may have been on to something. When Xemnas is in Hollow Bastion, before he travels the literal downward spiral into the Room of Sleep, he logs onto a computer with the username ‘Another.’ Well I’ll be, the name Xehanort is Another X. There is a correlation. Also, according to Xigbar, “people with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas… no… Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?” Xehanort was a Chaser and was one of those people with “the blade of keys,” along with Aqua and Ven, but lost his memory along the way. I can keep on conjuring up theories, but will it ever get us anywhere?