Riku on 01 Apr 2007 06:58 pm
FM: Enigmatic Soldier Battle
“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
Thanks to Xevorili.
Final Mix: Secret Boss (Enigmatic Soldier) Defeated! (Aftermath)
Enigmatic Soldier: I see. Your strength is… What I sensed in you is…
(When returning for a rematch:)
Enigmatic Soldier: So you have returned, young Keyblade user. I have no further power to give you. All I have is my hatred towards Xehanort. Will you allow me to engrave that into your heart?
on 02 Apr 2007 at 1:12 pm 1. Drake
*stares at it like…….*
on 02 Apr 2007 at 10:45 pm 2. Phoenix
Uh, yeah… Not to be a lazy, poor american college student, but what the heck happens when you beat him?!
on 03 Apr 2007 at 1:20 pm 3. V.o.E
OH my god! I laughed out loud when I saw that. That knite is insanely powerful. I like that guy, but is he the same knite as in the extended movie?
on 03 Apr 2007 at 11:26 pm 4. Dinnomicx
I am going to have fun when this comes out. Arhhhhhhh. come on! I need a release date!
on 04 Apr 2007 at 9:20 pm 5. I Know Everything
sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t WAIT til kingdom hearts 2 final mix+ comes out in canada and CANADA gets EVERYTHING second right after the U.S.A hahahahahaha!
on 04 Apr 2007 at 9:22 pm 6. I Know Everything
that knite is the same knite from the extended movie V.o.E
on 04 Apr 2007 at 11:03 pm 7. Sam
When is it coming out for america?
on 04 Apr 2007 at 11:54 pm 8. eric
KH2 Final Mix+ isn’t coming out in North America, stupid!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 3:32 am 9. Zero the god of destruction
YES IT IS!!!!!!!!! IT IS COMING OUT SOME TIME THIS YEAR IN SEPTEMBER!!!!!! WE CAN FIGHT THE KEYBLADE DEMI-GOD OF THE SECRET VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 4:19 am 10. Sergio
When I get this game that Knite is toast
on 05 Apr 2007 at 5:46 am 11. Fayte
None of the Final Mix’s are nor will be released in North America. This is because the Japanese versions of the original games were lacking a lot of the things in the English versions. So to make up for it they came out with the Final Mix versions of the games. If you want to play a Final Mix version then you’re going to have to get a mod chip for your console or go to Japan. >.>’
and FYI.. It’s spelled Knight. not Knite
on 05 Apr 2007 at 7:01 am 12. Thimien
Something tells me that this final Mix will come out in USA and Europe, the 1st Final mix fair enouth their wasnt enouth material, and after a market study they realised not many people would buy the 1st final Mix. But this one has so much stuff and all the new batles + Chain of memories 3D, iv heard that Final Mix 2 will be coming out worldwide, because KH won so many more fans after KH2, that they went and got the 1st game. Im not sure that its going to come out here, but i sure hope so.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 9:31 am 13. Sora`s friends
it’s look like is so hard to defeat that keyblade armor, whew… i want to work to buy it..
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:34 am 14. zerox505
that knight was insanely strong… and by the way when you beat kh com you get ansem report 0
on 05 Apr 2007 at 3:18 pm 15. Chez
While its true that normally final mixs dont come out in North America this one has a chance, nomura himself stated that he would like to see a world wide release of this came, and lets face it, if the creator wants it there is a good chance it will happen. However, Chain of Memories is a gamboy advance game, and the rules in North America in regards to switching systems are different than in Japan. Understandably, game boy may no want to give up their rights to that game.
The first kingdom hearts final mix that was released in Japan had most of the extras that the North American release got, thats why we didnt get it again, it would have been redundant. This one however, has things that we haven’t even dreamed of seeing…so once again, there is a chance…we just have to wait and see.
BTW Eric, dont call people stupid, its demeaning to yourself and others.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:03 pm 16. i dont kno
someone post Report 0
on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:45 pm 17. Dinnomicx
I agree with chez,eric,. Do’nt call people stupid. You think it degrades others but you are only degradeing yourself.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:56 pm 18. Yamani
Though it’s not confirmed by Square-Enix, several sorces say that it is to be released in North America during the fall. At least that was what I last heard.
I’m SOO looking foreward to it!!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:22 pm 19. creamm
That battle is amazing and extremely hard to beat!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:32 pm 20. Lyeius
Actually, the supposed date that KH2FM+ is probably coming out in Fall 2007, however, Square Enix has not approved of this date. However, this proves that KH2FM+ is most likely coming out in North America, and, if everything goes well, we’ll have it by the end of this year.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 12:13 am 21. shadow sora
my brother has three copies of the game now all we need is a japanese PS2 or a computer chip or somthing but my brother thinks useing chips on games are iilligal or somthin i wish i could get a japaneese PS2 and play it already.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 1:10 am 22. Dinnomicx
Shadow sora, belive me. Go to a any shop site and type in swap magic. It is really easy to use. It makes any imported games work. I have it. But I don’t want to import it now because I don,t know if Final mix will relase in america. I don’t want to buy it twice. It would be a waste of moeny.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 2:33 am 23. Millenious
wat i wanna know is wat the heck it says u get when u beat the “holy @$#!” character
on 06 Apr 2007 at 4:34 am 24. XasteriskX
You guy’s are spelling Knight wrong. The game is coming out in America this fall…and It’s not the same one from the extended ending. It’s someone we haven’t met. No one in the extended ending has a keyblade with a blue hilt guard. Nor golden and red armor. They all had black, grey, and dark blue…except for the evil one.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 4:59 am 25. you people are idiots
omg are you serious, its the exact same keyblade, same knight, they just didnt add the color in the video cus it would take away from the effect
on 06 Apr 2007 at 7:13 am 26. --kyaku
that, frozen guy who died in the FM secret ending, does he have any relation to Sora? i mean.. Sora’s nobody/Roxas && himself look nothing alike, the only basic similarity is the height.
The Enigmatic Soldier said, and i quote: “I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen…” then afterwards saying “Your strength is… What I sensed in you is…”
it could mean that sora was chosen to weild the keyblade because of whatever relation he has to the one who died.
Either im getting somewhere, or im crazy and dont know what im going on about haha [:
on 06 Apr 2007 at 7:21 am 27. --kyaku
oh && i forgot to add the close resemblence in apearance with the guy who died who i shall name Ven if that & Aqua are the names of the other two chasers in the secret ending
on 06 Apr 2007 at 2:02 pm 28. Sora`s friends
tetsuya nomura is good he put a opponent that much stronger that the main characters..i gonna do some strategy to defeat it
on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:44 pm 29. shadow sora
you know what i really wannah see the armourd guy and sephoroth in a battle that would be hot.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:54 pm 30. shadow sora
i dont get it y could sora fly in the game the last time we were able to do that it was kh1 in never land with peter pan
on 06 Apr 2007 at 7:19 pm 31. girodc
Actually, in the secret video, the guy getting his helmet crushed had the exact same eyes as sora, and if you notice, one of the knights were female, suggesting it could be… sora riku and kairi, seeing as one of the knights had the same keyblade as riku and as for the othere one, the female…i dont know, seing as this one wields two keyblades… CONCLUSION: the 3 knights are probably riku, sora and kairi.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 8:11 pm 32. darkkeyblade master
first off genius the guy who looks like roxas didnt die if u noticed after he got frozen and thrown off the cliff and the blue haired chick caught him they did a close up of his face and his eyes was moving back and forth under the ice he isnt dead just frozzen solid
on 06 Apr 2007 at 8:13 pm 33. darkkeyblade master
but that solider that sora fought sure does look exactly like the soldier from the ff3 trailer and u know they always change the colors in kh to make it look more happy and cherry like ff7 advent was mad dark but when they was in kh they looked more colorfull thats the disney influence on the game so it probably is they same person from the trailer that sora fights
on 06 Apr 2007 at 8:17 pm 34. darkkeyblade master
girodic makes sense they look kairi riku and sora but the maker said it was them but wasnt them so he but the big dude who looks sorta like riku and u saw his eyes turn from blue to yellow so it looks like hes sorta bad like riku they got a girl who looks kind and everything casue she put the shield around the big guy and then caught the little guy when he got frozen and then they have the guy with blond hair who looks like roxas who is basically sora so we basically got riku kairi and sora but the main prob is there gettin there a$$ kicked by that old man
on 06 Apr 2007 at 8:19 pm 35. darkkeyblade master
oh yeah and we got king mickey and when the old man split into two and the second one changed his clothes/armor sorta looked like the dark heartless armor riku had on when him and sora fought in hollow bastion in kh1
on 06 Apr 2007 at 11:49 pm 36. Numder 14. Doxyc
This Knight, he’s what’s called a Chaser I believe. I leanred much about these “knights” There were 3 of them as you saw picking up Kingdom, Requiem, and Way to the Dawn Keyblades then we saw a fourth person emerging from the dust. I believe that figure…is Xehanort, the weilder of the dark keyblade Riku used when Xehanort’s heartless invaded his heart. Afterwards Xehanort lost his memory and found Ansem the Wise. With his new accomplices Braig, Dillan, Even, Ienzo, and (the other guy, what’s his face) he regained it after unleashing his heartless and nobody. Mickey heard this and summoned for Sora, Riku, and Kairi immediatly as seen at the end of KH2. Remember when Roxas used Naminee’s crayon and sketches to finish the drawing in the mansion at Twilight Town? We never got to see what symbol was drawn this the Heartless and Nobody symbol.Pherhaps these “chasers” are knights of Kingdom hearts. What’s a kingdom without knights…and a king…? By the way, I got to thinking about Sora’s necklace. It’s the symbol for Kingdom Hearts, yet he has never left that island until the Heartless invaded. I’m just taking a long shot guess, because that chaser looked a lot like Sora, That is either Sora from the future…or Sora’s Father and he gave him the necklace as a momento as a kid. Just educated guesses. And will someone please for the love of god put Ansem’s Report 0 here for al of us to read and understand…to an extent.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 11:52 pm 37. Nal
could Ven have been mis-translated from Vene… Vexen from the Organization
on 06 Apr 2007 at 11:53 pm 38. Nal
or even
on 06 Apr 2007 at 11:56 pm 39. Nal
what is the item u get 4 winning
on 07 Apr 2007 at 6:03 am 40. Tyler
check this out:
Vexen = Even
Zexion = Ienzo
Lexaeus = Eleaus
Xigbar = Braig
Read the secret ansem reports guys. it talks about
Even, Ienzo, Eleaus, and Braig. That’s gotta be
something to think about for a while.
oh and…Xehanort = No heart
on 07 Apr 2007 at 1:00 pm 41. Diyablo
The item you get for winning is Limit form
+ Xaldin = Dilan
Also Xehanort can also be aranged to ‘Another’ as well as ‘no heart’ but ‘another’ is what we see Xemnas type into the computer in one of the new FM+ scenes. Interestin, eh?
on 07 Apr 2007 at 2:39 pm 42. Nal
But Xehanort took Ansem’s name(IDENTITY THEFT) so did his heartless and nobody
Xemnas= Ansem—Names
on 07 Apr 2007 at 3:58 pm 43. you white people are stupid
you white people are stupid!!!! we asians kill you!!! well, not really but in kh, we sure do!!! >=D
on 07 Apr 2007 at 8:38 pm 44. Roxas is the Man!!!
i hate this web site i registered as Roxas is the Man, and Roxas is the Man II. bechause i acsadentaley spelt my email rong twice and i did not get the confermation on the password could some body help me with this
on 08 Apr 2007 at 12:44 am 45. kool kid
if you havent this one movie on this website
the main guy the three knights vs. might possibly
be ansem. because of his clothes.two knights are probably nobodies of other people that will be in the 3rd kh. the last knight is roxas.the other guy with ansem is the same person but with rikus dark suit in kingdom hearts1.
on 08 Apr 2007 at 8:31 am 46. Kairi
when is Kingdom Hearts III coming out? Don’t you think then Riku is well cute in Kingdom Hearts II? I do!!!!! Can someone answer this question for me:
In Kingdom Hearts II, Riku turnes himsalf into Xehounaught, does that mean that it was Riku i defeated at the and of Kingdom Hearts I or was it actully Xehounaught? I’M CONFUSED!!!
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:09 pm 47. sora
I hope it comes out in Ireland
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:10 pm 48. sora
I realy hope kh 2 final mix will come out in ireland
on 08 Apr 2007 at 1:12 pm 49. kevin
of course it will come out in Ireland
on 08 Apr 2007 at 6:45 pm 50. aqua
My guess is that it will come out in at least another year, because square enix has projects, and it will take a certain amount of tim to translate re chain of memories, and voice acting for kh2 fin. mix new scenes if they where allowed and if where not a waste of time.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 12:43 am 51. Xalnon
This new wrinkle gives me chills. It makes me wonder what new direction will Kingdom Hearts take? But geez louise, that guy’s strong!
on 09 Apr 2007 at 8:40 am 52. Lyxil
Something isn’t translated in the third vid : At the end of the battle Sora won a “evidence (or proof? I’m not Canadian or American so ^^’) that he won a difficult fight”.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 10:10 am 53. UBER CONFUSED
Umm this may sound REALLY thick of me
but how do u reach the point of that random dark hole to kill the guy in armour
on 09 Apr 2007 at 10:14 am 54. UBER CONFUSED
o and howd u get those ube cool Weapons for gofy and Donald
on 09 Apr 2007 at 7:06 pm 55. crystaldragoon
KH3 is going to take a while to come out. i read on the square site that the KH team is currently working on FF versus XIII and plans to complete it first. KH3 is also most likely going to be a PS3 release
on 09 Apr 2007 at 7:32 pm 56. Jack
ok theroy so far about the Fm secret ending
Frozen guy= Roxas (buts hes not ded cos his eyes are moving so hes badly injured)
Brown Hair guy with glowy eyes= His names Ven (i think)
Blue haired girl= Her name is Aqua and i think over their experiences roxas and aqua become good good (if you know what i mean) freinds because of the way they looked at each other b4 roxas went poof.
They are good freinds and all are nobies from certain charac from different backrounds or from characters in KH 1 & 2. They come to the location they are at in secret ending to stop the boldy bad guy. The boldy bad guy has definatly got something to do with Xehornot (what ever its spelt like) or ansem because hes got a keyblade of some sort and he wears the same clothes as ansem fake from KH 1. Boldy has his hench guy who i think is a heartless version of one of the knights (maybe just a random one) and thats why he works for him. Boldy comes to this location to open kingdom hearts with the heart he gets probebly from a important person (not roxas cos i dont think hes ded)and he comes here because there is also a castle (someway special) under KH which is seen at the end and this is probebly got to do with unlocking KH aswell. Mickey is in this also because of course hes gottas come save the day and the keyblade war is probebly how roxas and co became knights and the best idea i have about why it happened is the fact that it isnt a war that suddenly happen but its a war thats been going on for generations and theres been millions of keyblade masters that have been and gone fighting the heartless and darkness but either never to win over the other.all the keyblades are probebly from all the previous keyblade masters. Lastly i dont think the keybladed weilders in the fottage have any keychains on them so i think that thats a sign that they are heartless or nobodies.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 7:45 pm 57. Jack
lol scary aswell im comment 56 and thats my house numder XD
on 09 Apr 2007 at 7:52 pm 58. Joe Broenie
…he kinda looks like batman.
on 09 Apr 2007 at 10:28 pm 59. Sora
Your all stupid idiots hahahahahaha
on 10 Apr 2007 at 1:40 am 60. UBER CONFUSED
Umm im desperate how do u get vs all the org 13 guys is that only on japanese version?? PLZ and how to get limt/ and vs ES
on 10 Apr 2007 at 10:08 am 61. Varxtis
Actually. . . Rewatch the initial KH II Secret Movie. one of the keyblades that the knight pull was the kingdom key, you can see the Mickey Mouse Head Key Chain. You’ll also notice that Rikus (I’ll call it…) dark keyblade is there too. Originally, the assumptions were that the knights were Sora, (because of the kingdom key) Riku (because the Dark Keyblade) and Kairi (merely because of the feministic features). Also, the knight that is fought in the KH II FM game IS the knight in the secret ending video. Ones again emphasising the original secret ending. . . The first knight to appear in the video IS holding that same keyblade as the one fought in FM.
Questions about Xehanort/Heartless Ansem/Xemnas.
First question - Is the imposter Ansem (the heartless Ansem Defeated in KH I) really a heartless. The reason I ask is because in Ansems real reports in KH 2. . .(I can’t remember which report) but the heartless with ensignias/Emblems were said to be synthetic. Fakes from what it sounded like. So. . .was it it even a real heartless in the first place?
Second question - Every Nobody is basically the spelling (jumbled of coarse) of its “other” +X, right? When Ansem initially was writting his REAL Reports, he wrote about being stuck in the void. I can only assume that he got into the same situation as Sora and fell into darkness for a short time. If thats so, then could Xemnas (possibly) actually be his Nobody? If speculation is right. . . and Xehanort was actually a Nobody himself (”another” +X or “no heart” +X or whatever) then that would make Xemnas a Nobody of. . . a Nobody? o.O?? I know KH has some funky Plot twists. . . but a nobody of a nobody seems too weird.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 2:44 pm 62. Shakespeare
Vartix:
In regards to your first question, a Shadow and a Neoshadow, and presumably a Dark Ball, are all ‘natural’ Heartless. All the other Heartless you saw were ‘Emblems’, Heartless created under artificial conditions. They’re not ‘fake’, but they wouldn’t have occured naturally. But yes, KH1!Ansem was really a Heartless. The difference between him and most Heartless was he willingly became one. Thus, he retained all his personality and such. Sora was the same; he became a Shadow, but he was still Sora.
For your second question, not EVERY Nobody has their name rearranged + X, just the members of Organization XIII (One of the Secret Ansem Reports makes mention of the fact that the names of the Organization members label them as part of a ‘brotherhood’). Namine, after all, is Kairi’s Nobody, and her name isn’t rearranged from Kairi. And as we know, ‘Xehanort’ rearranges to ‘Another X’, since everything about him, like an X, was unknown. Ansem the Wise never became a Heartless, rather he acted similar to Riku and probably just accepted the Darkness, rather than get swallowed by it. Xemnas couldn’t be Ansem the Wise’s Nobody because Xemnas (and Ansem the Wise himself) made it clear that he was Xehanort’s Nobody, created after Xehanort had started using the name Ansem and had banished Ansem the Wise to the Corridors of Darkness.
Mickey Mouse: Ansem the Wise. Why didn’t you come to me before things got so bad?
Ansem the Wise: Xemnas, the Organization’s Superior, is the Nobody of Xehanort, my foremost apprentice. The burden was mine to bear.
Xemnas: Students do take after their teachers. Only a fool would be your apprentice. After all, none of this would have happened without you. YOU are the source of all Heartless. It was your research that inspired me to go further than you ever dared.
DiZ: I admit… my disregard brought chaos to more worlds than one. But what were YOU seeking? You erased me from the world, only to take my name and continue research better left forgotten… Is this the answer you’ve been looking for?
Xemnas: All that and more. I’m carrying on what you yourself began, and I’m creating a brand new world, one heart at a time. I thought you’d praise me, but all you ever do is hold me back. I understand, though. Unlike me, you have a heart. And you’re powerless to control it. Consumed, by the jealousy you feel toward the student who surpassed you.
(Quotes taken from IMDb.com)
I don’t think that both Ansem the Wise and Xemnas would be that misinformed of their own identities.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 6:11 pm 63. Varxtis
HAHAHA
True . . . true.
Wow, all my questions addressed and answered. Awesome.
Thank you very much.
on 10 Apr 2007 at 8:39 pm 64. knightblazer85
Here’s a theory.
there are actually supposed to be 4 key barrers
one of light
one of dark
one of dawn (both light and dark but leaning to the light)
and one of twilight (light + dark but welling in the darkness like riku
on 10 Apr 2007 at 10:48 pm 65. SoraRoxas
I need subtitles cool battle though when does it come to the U.S.
on 11 Apr 2007 at 1:37 am 66. Shakespeare
Yup. And I managed to do it all between pretending to be working during my Multimedia Projects class lecture. XDDD
The only connection between Kairi and Naminé’s names is only apparent if you know Japanese.
The kanji for ocean is ‘海’. It’s Japanese reading is ‘umi’, ‘ocean’. However, the Onyomi is ‘Kai’. This makes perfect sense, since ‘Riku’ is Japanese for ’shore, land’ and ‘Sora’ is Japanese for ‘Sky’. (Another water-related ‘Kai’ is ‘貝’, ’shell’. The word ‘Kairi’ itself apparently also means ‘nautical mile’ and, more related to the game, ’separation’. Interesting…)
Then we come to Naminé. The word for ‘wave’ is ‘波’, ‘Nami’ (as in ‘Tsunami’, ‘Harbor Wave’). So there’s the connection between THOSE two.
on 11 Apr 2007 at 3:22 am 67. James
Xehanort was at one time human, but when he became a heartless, Xemnas was born
so Xemnas is in fact Xehanort’s nobody
on 11 Apr 2007 at 3:56 am 68. Shakespeare
Who was it that said that because the Keyblades in the video didn’t have key chains, the wielders must be Heartless/Nobodies? I don’t follow that logic. I mean, Roxas used Keyblades that had key chains. (Granted, he used Oathkeeper and Oblivion, but they still had chains.)
I just want to know what the reasoning is behind that.
And in regards to post #37, ‘Ven’ isn’t a mistranslation. I took a look at the footage a few days ago, and there’s no other way to translate ‘ヴェン’. (Really, it’s quite literal.)
on 11 Apr 2007 at 4:22 am 69. Sephiroth
Umm Could I please get some tips to getting to vsing ES And getting that wicking keyblade I’m REALLY desperate and I would thank you for any tips AT ALL
Thanks
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:30 am 70. Varxtis
James,
Just out of curiosity. . . What reasoning do you have to say that he was human the whole time. Granted, the only thing that leads to believe otherwise was the things ansem said in his REAL reports about Xehanort, something along the lines of being superhuman, which that doesn’t mean anything definite. But regardless. . . I don’t think there was ever anything quoted that would allow anyone to make a certified assumption that he was actually Human. I do however believe you about the fact that Xemnas was infact Xehanorts nobody (primarily because information provided by Shakespeare)
Shakespeare. . . I think the main comment that was made about 2 knights being nobodies was comment 45.
Just for fun
Any body want to throw out their thoughts on why we see Roxas, when he was supposedly merged into Sora?
My take - its that one theory where its generation down the road in the keyblade wars and sora, well. . . being that he’s human, didn’t live generation. So Roxas had to seperate. Seems too simple to be part of this story line, but anyway.
And whats up with Ven? was it just me or was his face actually changing at the the last shot of him in the video?
Besides what the knight says to sora in KH II FM regarding Ven and Aqua, is there ever any other mention of these two? Am I allowed to keep asking question in this field or do I have to go to the Forums?
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:41 am 71. Ranyx
No eric…you are the stupid one……as much as you think you can insult others the only incolant one here is you.
on 11 Apr 2007 at 11:14 pm 72. Senshin
I have a question, what was it you receive for beating the ES?
on 12 Apr 2007 at 12:12 am 73. Soriku
This fight…. Is awsome!!! XD.. Cant wait to fight him.
on 12 Apr 2007 at 6:27 am 74. Shakespeare
Senshin, I think you receive that Limit form that is shown on the front page (posted on April 6th).
I just remembered seeing that comment somewhere on the page of posts, and wanted to hear the theory about the missing keychains. I personally think that if you were to remove the key chain from a Keyblade, it wouldn’t really change the Keyblade. I mean, all of the Keyblades you receive in the game are in Keychain form, which when equipped to a Keyblade, changes the weapon’s form. Sora’s not literally toting around 15 Keyblades. (Think about how cool that would be, though…you could totally use Omnislash v. 5 on Sephiroth…)
Varxtis:
Do you mean at the end of KH2 during the final cut scene, where Sora kinda flashes in to Roxas, and Kairi kinda flashes into Naminé? I personally think it’s just to show that those two didn’t disappear, like all the other Nobodies. Somehow, somewhere, there is a way for Nobodies to be happy; it’s just not what Xemnas had in mind. I don’t think there’s anything deeper than that.
And since both ‘Ven’ and ‘Aqua’ are Latin in origin, I think it’s safe to assume that the ES’s name is related to earth, just as Riku’s name is (possibly a masculine form of ‘Terra’? The English-Latin translator I’m looking at on the University of Notre Dame website says ‘Terra’ is feminine…anyone who’s better at Latin feel free to correct me). This makes the arrangement of Xehanort into ‘Another’ (sans ‘X’) make even more sense, since Sora, Riku and Kairi are a group of just 3. They don’t have ‘another’.
Geez, I always post novels on here, don’t I?
on 12 Apr 2007 at 8:50 pm 75. roxas reborn
this is a hard fight
on 13 Apr 2007 at 12:10 am 76. lionheart
i agree with varxtis. a nobody of a noody is to wierd even for KH.but KH also leaves you guessing on what is going to happen next so it might be possible
on 13 Apr 2007 at 12:12 am 77. lionheart
that fight looked mad hard.
question the keyblad that the guy used was that the fenrir? my brother reset my file just after i beat sephiroth and i didn’t get a chance to see what it looked like.
on 13 Apr 2007 at 1:47 am 78. dee boy
IIIIIIIII NNNNEEEEEEDDDD TTTHHAAATTT GGAAMMEE!!!!!!!!!!
on 13 Apr 2007 at 3:19 pm 79. J.D.
In response to quote 61. In the Ansem reports from the first KH. The reports that Xehanort wrote. He says that he was working on a way to make an artificial heart. In the secret movie of KHII Final Mix, that old guy splits himself into two people, himself and that guy in the black costume. I think that guy in the black costume is Xehanort, and that he lost his memories in that battle with the three knights. He was probably the nobody of that old guy, and the old guy was a heartless. So, back to what I was saying.Xehanort created an artificial heart and used it as his own. So he became whole again, but when he became a heartless again, he also got a nobody. And he only took the name Ansem because Ansem the Wise was a powerful man.
on 13 Apr 2007 at 3:43 pm 80. J.D.
Okay, you people are killing me. I’m going to explain what I know so far. The secret movie in KHII Final MIx takes place in the past, maybe about ten to fifteen years ago. The girl knight with blue hair is named Aqua. The other knight that looks like Roxas is named Ven. I believe that these two knights are actually the parents of Sora and Riku. Because they both seem to be very close. And it would make sense b/c the girl looks a bit like Riku, and the guy looks like Roxas who in turn looks like Sora. The old guy is someone that mastered his heart and separated himself into a heartless and nobody. The nobody was Xehanort, and the old gut was the heartless. After the battle, Xehanort lost his memory. Then he continued research of the heart even though Ansem the Wise told him to stop. He created an artificial hearts for him to use. He become a whole person again. Then he became a heartless again and that gave birth to Xemnas also. I dont know who the main knight is, but I know he isnt a bad guy, even though his eyes changed at the end of the secret movie. He just started to use the power of darkness to save his friends Aqua and Ven. But something happened to them. According to a scene I saw from KHII Final Mix. Xemnas was holding Aqua in a room called the room of sleep. And apparently, there is another room called the room of awakening where the other knight ven is being held. The main knight has been looking for them. Thats why in the cutscene before you fight him in KHII FM, he says “Aqua…. Ven….” And he says that he was looking for Xehanort. After you beat him, he’s impressed with sora,and he tells Sora that he absolutely hates Xehanort. And I know he say “Your not the one I chose” But I think he only means that he wanted to bring Xehanort to him, but he got Sora instead. That’s all I know so far, And I know I’m right so dont test me.
on 13 Apr 2007 at 11:53 pm 81. Joe Broenie
well, like the guy mentioned before me, like how it could possibly take place in the past, perhaps, instead of travelling to different planets, they travel to different time periods in this one?
on 14 Apr 2007 at 1:17 pm 82. KH£3 FAN
Itis crazy the parent of riku and sora and wat did happend with kairi.And is saw the video kh2 fm secret ending and at the last of the video i saw mikey.I think hes joking.
on 14 Apr 2007 at 2:35 pm 83. herpo
I believe that the tallest knight in the final mix secret ending is actually the first human form of Xehanort who in order to save his teammates Aqua and Ven gave in to the darkness and became a Heartless(he actually looks like Ansem in KH1,same hairstyle and yellow eyes!).When the old guy was defeated the tallest knight’s/Xehanort’s heartless was found by Ansem the Wise who took the libery of generating an artificial heart for him(or even naming him ,as he had lost his memories-Xehanort,no heart).
Thus Xehanort the apprentice was born,who would later become willingly a heartless(Ansem)and a Nobody(Xemnas).With Ansem defeated, Xemnas the Nobody was trying to restore his memory and found Aqua,without fully understanding that he was once intact and good.That’s why he calls her friend and keeps her in the Room of Sleep.
However when the young Xehanort,the tallest knight, who gave in to the darkness in order to save Aqua and Ven in the secret ending became a heartless,a nobody was also formed.That Nobody is I believe the knight Sora finds in KH3 Final Mix and with whom he battles.That’s why that knight looks for Xehanort,because like all Nobodies he wishes to be whole again.
Please tell me what do you think!!
on 14 Apr 2007 at 10:11 pm 84. sorasbestfriend
here what i think. 1 takes place in past 2 old guy is xenhort ( askin then how can it b in past hang on ill get 2 that ) 3. as we know the 3 armored unknowns r not ppl we know. well heres my theory. takes place probably about 20 years b4 kh1 has to cuz mickey is alive at the end anyway. old guy ( xenhort ) uses all of the keyblades to open a path to kingdom hearts when he flicks his wrist and stuff. the 3 soldiers r saixs person ( from b4 he was a nobody ) the other guy is roxas 1 ( not sora mayb somehow roxas had a conenction 2 sora after somwething happened and hr had 2 stages as a nobody the girl COULD b larxenes nobody ( kinda looks like her ) and after old guy owns them he uses KHs power to turn young again as about the age of when hes ansems apprentice. while his replica stays real and young he turns the 3 sooldiers and himself into nobodys therefore starting Org 13. they were mickeys soldiers he came to c while he was trainin from yen-sid nad cs that they fail and rushes into battle and destroys all keyblades except for a few which go to certain ppl so it would b much harder for evil to open KH to its full powr again so its amixed plot but mayb. leave a comment of what u think on youtube.com/ryanX2rocks
on 15 Apr 2007 at 10:49 pm 85. Wondering about the next Keyblade series
Here is what I believe, take it as you will.
Tallest Knight=Sora he has the looks the eyes and the hair of sora. Blue-haired= Unknown. Young Knight= Roxas, this is obvious as the looks give away why I would think this.
Plot:
The area they are in is a valley were all Keyblades both discovered and undiscovered are before and after they are summoned, The old man is Xeanort in whole or an evil Riku, the Dark Soldier is simply a copy of the old man or, If the old man is Xeanort, Riku, under mind control or simply turned evil. I say this takes place in the future because Riku, Mickey, and Sora’s keyblades were gathered in one area when the Kinghts drew them whilst the others were placed around them like a crossroad. These are my
on 15 Apr 2007 at 10:49 pm 86. Wondering about the next Keyblade series
Here is what I believe, take it as you will.
Tallest Knight=Sora he has the looks the eyes and the hair of sora. Blue-haired= Unknown. Young Knight= Roxas, this is obvious as the looks give away why I would think this.
Plot:
The area they are in is a valley were all Keyblades both discovered and undiscovered are before and after they are summoned, The old man is Xeanort in whole or an evil Riku, the Dark Soldier is simply a copy of the old man or, If the old man is Xeanort, Riku, under mind control or simply turned evil. I say this takes place in the future because Riku, Mickey, and Sora’s keyblades were gathered in one area when the Kinghts drew them whilst the others were placed around them like a crossroad. These are my
on 15 Apr 2007 at 11:19 pm 87. ej
JD i like your research on the secret ending it seems the most sensable you seem to know the most so i want you to tell me what you think about my theories.
Theory number1: the bald guy the 3 nights are fighting and the guy in the suit are ansems nobody and heartless this is why i think that in kh2 when ansem was holding the machine he tried to harvest kingdomhearts with and it blew up instead of it killing him it turned him into a heartless and the bald guy is the nobody they somehow figured out how to bond to each other so that they could seperate when fighting.This would also explain why at the end of the cutscene mickey showed up he went to fight ansems nobody and heartless so that if he defeated them ansem would come back.
theory 2: do you remember the cutscene where sora and roxas are fighting and at the end roxas says you would make a good other? maybe the 3 knights in the cutscene are others a new character to be put in kh3?
Theory 3: the tall knight is (was?) ansem that would explain why his eyes turned yellow.
on 15 Apr 2007 at 11:20 pm 88. ej
JD i like your research on the secret ending it seems the most sensable you seem to know the most so i want you to tell me what you think about my theories.
Theory number1: the bald guy the 3 nights are fighting and the guy in the suit are ansems nobody and heartless this is why i think that in kh2 when ansem was holding the machine he tried to harvest kingdomhearts with and it blew up instead of it killing him it turned him into a heartless and the bald guy is the nobody they somehow figured out how to bond to each other so that they could seperate when fighting.This would also explain why at the end of the cutscene mickey showed up he went to fight ansems nobody and heartless so that if he defeated them ansem would come back.
theory 2: do you remember the cutscene where sora and roxas are fighting and at the end roxas says you would make a good other? maybe the 3 knights in the cutscene are others a new character to be put in kh3?
Theory 3: the tall knight is (was?) ansem that would explain why his eyes turned yellow.
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on 16 Apr 2007 at 9:38 pm 89. Bill boy
what a big health bar
on 17 Apr 2007 at 12:31 am 90. sorasbestfriend
well it cant b sora riku or kairi or roxas mayb a connection 2 them but nomura specificialy announced that bsides PS2 kh days r over
and i cant afford a PS3 sux4me lol hopefully hell change his idea and bring it back to PS2 and soon KH2FM+ better come
on 17 Apr 2007 at 1:11 am 91. Haiku
Well here is my facts of KH3 (even though that’s not what the title will be called).
1) In the secret fight against the knight, he says that he holds a huge hatrid for Xenort.
2) He is found in Disney Castle… OBVIOUSLY he is not a bad guy if he is found here and Mickey has to know of his whereabouts (the portal is in the most important area of the castle after all… unless you guys forgot what the Cornerstone of Light does).
3) In KH2 FM Secret Ending, we see Roxas almost die (or a look alike, I am not to sure).
4) The old man has the same outfit as Xeanort’s Heartless. Also the old man has the ability to clone himself into a second being. Also the old man has the Key Blade that can open Kingdom Hearts (meaning he doesn’t need a huge collection of hearts to open it).
5) Now last time I checked, when you battle Xemnas he can clone a second person, and his named spelt differently without the X is Ansem. Xeanort was pretending to be Ansem so he called himself Ansem, this means there is a link there but Xemnas couldn’t use darkness right?
6) Now the old man can make a second form of himself and knows quite a bit about Aero Magic and Blizzard Magic, he apparently also can control Darkness because of how he opened Kingdom Hearts. What if… The Heartless and Nobody… fused?
7) Of course that is just speculation but think about it, the old man can use the abilities of BOTH the Heartless and Nobody of Xeanort and to top it all off, the Old Man knew that his Key Blade could open kingdom hearts… and Xeanort as a human researched Hearts so Xeanort woudl know if a certain Key Blade opened or closed kingdom hearts.
9) Plus if you look at the face of the Old Man, he has the same features as Xemnas and Xeanort Heartless… Xemnas’s White Hair (look at the beard) and the Heartless’s yellow eyes.
10) Also another thing to look at is when the real Ansem sacrificed himself, he was a ripe old age… maybe the power of the hearts inside the machine caused him to be absorbed into Kingdom Hearts itself and that leads to my final theory.
11) What if Ansem the Wise was abosrbed into Kingdom Hearts… what if Xeanort’s Heartless was also absorbed into Kingdom Hearts for some reason… and Xemnas was defeated when in Kingdom Hearts… perhaps… Ansem, Xemnas and Ansem the Wise… have fused into the old man, Xemnas’s White Hair, Ansem the Wises Age and Xeanort’s Heartless’s Yellow Eye’s and strength… perhaps he is the fusion of all three. Once again, speculation, the only thing we can do now is think and wait for the info to be thrown right at us with Square Enix’s brilliant way of tyeing a whole storyline together no matter how far apart they were originally.
on 17 Apr 2007 at 2:08 pm 92. way to dawn
That a good theory… and if you think about it it does make sense.
on 17 Apr 2007 at 7:05 pm 93. kh mastr
perfect sence i have to agree it sounds good
on 17 Apr 2007 at 7:05 pm 94. kh mastr
perfect sence i have to agree it sounds good
on 17 Apr 2007 at 8:17 pm 95. Donovan
check this out:
Sora= Roxas
Vexen = Even
Zexion = Ienzo
Lexaeus = Eleaus
Xigbar = Braig
I have seen the Secret Ansem Report 0 on my computer
(has a built in Translator incase I need it)
But it only talks about “The Splitting Of Hearts”
So as you can see…The makers give out obvious names for the Nobodies(Roxas has same letters as Sora just added an X) Hope this helps
on 17 Apr 2007 at 9:28 pm 96. Donovan
THE OFFICIAL GUIDE TO THE SOON-TO-BE RELEASED KH3(FOR PS3 OF COURSE)
Kingdom hearts III
Years before Sora’s adventure, there was a great war. In a place between worlds, there were those known as “Chasers”, those who had manifested great power and chanelled it through weapons they experly crafted known as the Keyblades. There were four Chasers.
The Chasers all had to power to create, save, destroy and lock world’s hearts. Their keyblade gave them enough power to unlock the energy of a worlds physical heart and be able to move from world to world.
The Chasers began to follow their own ambitions. In the place between worlds, where all of their keyblades laid to rest, the four seperated. Two followed the path of light, bringing life to the worlds, following the paths of Light and Twilight. The other two, they grew unhappy and decided that those who did not respect them should perish. They followed the path of Darkness. They began to bring destruction to worlds, destroying them.
One of the two Dark Chasers realized the faults in his ways and decided to back out. Much as Riku did, this Chaser follows the path of Dawn back to the Crossroads where he is forgiven for his ways. The final Chaser, the one they called Xehanort, would not give up, would not give in. The war began, it is unknown for how long this terrible time lasted. It has been recorded though and the Chasers are much like gods.
The war was either between great armies or just between the four Chasers, either way, the Dark Chaser, the Dark Keyblade Master known as Xehanort fought against the others in a great Keyblade war.
Xehanort was defeated, and with that, he lost something dear: his memory. Cast away he was born again by sleep. Waking up in the world of Radiant Garden, almost dead, a great Saint known as Ansem found him and offered his assistance. He promised to help him and when he realized the man’s memory was gone, he offered to help restore it.
The Chasers each had the ability to spread their power to a disciple or their spirits lived on through a bloodline or chosen ones. Passing their power on to make sure to Order of the Worlds was kept safe.
One Keyblade went to the King of all the Worlds: Mickey.
When Xehanort began to believe he was in fact Ansem, his fascination with the Keyblades grew. Unknowning even to himself who he was.
When the Heartless were born and began to create chaos, Riku was chosen to weild the next Keyblade, to save the people from destruction while Mickey was in the World of Darkness. But, Riku’s heart was tainted by his willingness to let darkness overcome him and the Keyblade was passed on to Sora.
After being selected first and later overcome by Xehanort, Xehanort was able to harvest his power to reclaim his Dark Keyblade and thus, Riku was able to have his own.
The final Keyblade was unnecessary until later, when the goodness and innocence of Kairi was able to bring hope to the other Keyblade Weilders and she too was chosen.
Roxas only had ones because he is an element of Sora.
After their adventures had ended, Mickey sends a troubling letter to Sora, Kairi and Riku. A letter that reveals Xehanort’s next plot. That he has perhaps remembered his true self. A plot to destroy the other Chasers, a plot to be the one and only Keyblade Master.
A great beast is sent to the Crossroads between worlds but is slain by one of the Chasers. The others appear from their selected paths and reclaim their Keyblades, as though they haven’t been touched in a long time. They look to the road of Darkness and the shady figure of Xehanort moves forward. Through his time within Riku, he is essentially “reborn” and while Riku tries to remove him, he is never gone. With enough power he returns to the Crossroads and a great war is about to begin once again. One that will decide the fate of the Chasers and all of those who hold a Keyblade…
on 17 Apr 2007 at 9:32 pm 97. Dinnomicx
Thanks
on 17 Apr 2007 at 9:41 pm 98. Donovan
Sorry guys last comment…
To relieve you all of your mysterious investigations on what “Birth by Sleep” means.
Remember when Xehanort somehow lost his memory?
He lost the battle and the Chasers Cast him away and he was born again by sleep.
on 17 Apr 2007 at 10:02 pm 99. way to dawn
Did you make this up or what?
on 18 Apr 2007 at 7:31 pm 100. The OathKeeper
What if…This all happened in the past! And the Guy that look like Roxas isnt him! His name is Ven.
I think this is happened before Sora was born
on 18 Apr 2007 at 7:37 pm 101. The OathKeeper
One more thing…lol that fight you had must have been veryyyyy frustanting…You took him down to 1 hp and then he beat you…Happenned to me once too
on 18 Apr 2007 at 8:31 pm 102. DarkWielder33
I also have a question about a few things number 2 never explained but were never or hardly brought up.
Why do Kairi and Riku get a keyblade?
Why are both Riku and King Mickey wearing Organization XIII cloakswhen they first appear in KHII?
and Why do some Nobodies (Organization XIII) have a human form and some just have a form sort of like a heartless?
If you find out the answers to these questions tell me?
thirtythree792@aim.com
on 18 Apr 2007 at 9:50 pm 103. A Chosen Keyblade Master
darkwielder33:
1. read haiku’s long post and then donovon’s
2. riku and king mickey were undercover….sorta…
3. i kinda forget this but it was explained in the game. it was like if they are stronger then they have a stronger form, more humanistic…
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:15 am 104. Reese
I wonder what that message was from the king at the end of numbuh II
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:21 am 105. Reese
I’ve got a question, why does the one knight hate Xeanort so much?
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:24 am 106. KevKH
becuz hes Aero…. the tall knoght in the secrwet movies…..hes mad becuz they got beaten by him
on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:29 am 107. Reese
Thanks, so that tall knight’s name is aero
on 19 Apr 2007 at 3:04 am 108. Sora210
i think that the ps3’s gonna bomb and KH3 is gonna be on the 360
on 19 Apr 2007 at 3:05 am 109. Sora210
and whoes Aero
on 19 Apr 2007 at 10:35 am 110. Sephiroth
In reply to comment 67 ETC:
The bald guy is obviously related to Xhenorat one way or another considering that in the final battle wen u vs Him he can split in 2 while he owns sora his other Copy or w/e is owning riku(playing as u)So the bald guy may just b a noobody and he created a concentrated Heartless form of himself
on 19 Apr 2007 at 10:36 am 111. Sephiroth
In reply to comment 87 (woops ETC:
The bald guy is obviously related to Xhenorat one way or another considering that in the final battle wen u vs Him he can split in 2 while he owns sora his other Copy or w/e is owning riku(playing as u)So the bald guy may just b a noobody and he created a concentrated Heartless form of himself
on 19 Apr 2007 at 11:08 am 112. Thimien
ok theres no prof that the bald guy is Xehanort, if thers one thing that KH are good for, is xplanations:
the basics: a mans life is taken a keyblade or another hearless, what hpns next.
The heart goes to Kingdom Hearts, and a another heartless is born, leaving the sould and the body = nobody.
If the heart was a strong one, then the heartless and the nobody can still retain human form, not yet xplained why.
So does are the 2 forms that are left behind, and Sora had killed both of Xehanorts forms…
Only 2 people have had their hearts returned in the game, and does are Sora and Kairi, but still the nobodys stayed separate, dont know why, so they are the only 2 that met their own nobodys in the game.
So with both Xehanorts forms dead, how can it be him again? these are facts xplain within the games, wich would prove not to be him, obviasly they can come up with a story line that can make this possible, but it better be a good damn story!!! >
on 19 Apr 2007 at 7:47 pm 113. sorasbestfriend
well actually yea itd b stupid to put kh3 on ps3 its a load of crap and 2 it wont b on the 360. mayb they will still keep it on the PS2 cuz its not really last-gen its morw 2day-gen lol
on 20 Apr 2007 at 2:44 am 114. way to dawn
I believe Donovan’s idea and I think that the old man
is Xehanort with his memories and powers restored. For the people who played Kingdom Hearts, where was “Ansem”, Xehanort’s Heartless, defeated? In Kingdom Hearts (or near Kingdom Hearts). Where was Xemnas defeated? In Kingdom Hearts. So, since they were both defeated in Kingdom Hearts, I think that they weren’t killed (being defeated and being killed aren’t the same thing) and somehow met and fused to being a whole Xehanort with his memories. Or something along those lines.
on 20 Apr 2007 at 2:57 am 115. way to dawn
Oh yeah, I also think that the Nobody and the Heartless can separate at will or something like that. Remember, Xemnas can create a clone of himself? Well maybe that’s just a weaker version of Xehanort’s power. Oh before I forget, take a look at the translation of what the “Chaser” or Knight said when you first fight him. Notice that the first 2 words he says are both capitalized and look like names. I believe that Aqua is the girl with the blue hair and Ven is the guy that everyone says that he’s Roxas or looks like Roxas.
on 20 Apr 2007 at 11:32 pm 116. DarkWielder33
Does anyone know who the three armored soldiers are?
on 21 Apr 2007 at 1:56 am 117. ChainWielder33
this is darkwielder juz in case, is the secret ending in kingdom hearts 2 a preview of final mix or kingdom hearts 3
on 21 Apr 2007 at 2:42 am 118. way to dawn
Everyone go to the Another Report page and go to pages 26 & 27. It has an interview and explains some unexplained details.
on 21 Apr 2007 at 3:45 am 119. Shakespeare
Interesting theory, Donovan, but I think a lot of people have the potential to be Wielders. That’s why there can be Dark Wielders in the first place; it’s just that they have to find their own Keyblade. Besides, it’s painfully obvious that there isn’t only 1 Keyblade or something, since one, tons of people have them (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Mickey, the knights, the old man, the old man’s accomplice…perhaps there’s a Wielder for every Keyblade?) and two, there’s tons of them in both the KH2 secret videos.
The reason that no one could use Sora’s Keyblade was because it chose him. (I use a similar concept when describing Masamune; Cloud himself said that only Sephiroth could use it, and in legend, Masamune is a holy sword. Therefore, it’s not so much that Sephiroth is the only one capable of using a 7-10 foot sword, it’s that no one else can use THAT 7-10 foot sword.)
To 116 (DarkWielder33):
The girl is named ‘Aqua’, the frozen guy who looks like Roxas is ‘Ven’, and the third one is the Enigmatic Soldier from KH2FM+. I’ve postulated in the past that the E.S.’s name is a masculine Latin form of ‘earth’. (Since Sora is Japanese for ’sky’ and Ven is Latin for ‘air/wind’, Kairi is Japanese for ‘ocean’ and Aqua is Latin for ‘water’, and Riku is Japanese for ‘land/shore’, it follows the pattern. Xehanort’s name fits in with the 4 Chasers in that, if you remove the X, his name can be rearranged to spell ‘Another’. Then, for when he loses his memory, his becomes an unknown, ‘Another X’.)
And the videos are previews of ‘KH3′, just as ‘Another Side, Another Story’ and ‘Another Side, Another Story (Deep Dive)’ were previews for KH2.
on 22 Apr 2007 at 12:39 am 120. tkirkjr
okay, the girl soldier is aqua, the soldier who looks like roxas is ven, the taller soldier is unknown.
theory 1:i believe that since xehanort is the same spelled Another, he may be the old man AND the dark soldier. heartless and there nobodies can be together even though they don’t have a heart. so he was once a soldier who gave his heart to darkness who created a nobody(old man) and a heartless(dark soldier who comes out of old man). the taller soldier can not be xehanort because when you fight him, he says he hates xehanort.
theory 2: Xehanort is the taller soldier because his nobody(xemnas) went into castle oblivion holds the room of sleeping, where either aqua or ven are located. he feels a bond in them because he once fought with them. when the old man opened kingdom hearts, you can see the tall soldier’s eyes turn hazel, which might mean he gave all his heart into sealing for his 2 companions. his heart given to the darkness to seal the deep darkness of kingdom hearts. The main evil guy of kingdom hearts 3 would be the old man and his accomplice the dark knight who want to try again to open kingdom hearts.
any comments?
on 22 Apr 2007 at 3:56 am 121. ryan
ok. You guys have some valid points. But I’m here to state the obvious. First, the crossroads. Southwest Asia is also considered a crossroads. Second, keyblade war. Asia? War in Iraq anyone. My third reason is the lost two. Well one of them is obviously Osama. That’s all I have now but I’ll keep you updated!
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:04 pm 122. sorasbestfriend
wow ryan ur pathetic
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:07 pm 123. mKh
ryan is an idiot
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:07 pm 124. sorasbestfriend
Donovan u copy-cat! ppl ive seen that thing 1,000 times on other sites he didnt make that up and we can tell the chasers r good KH2FM+ ending ppl gosh
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:09 pm 125. sorasbestfriend
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ryan. srry ppl for double posting its so funny Osama in KH! LOL omg - dies on laughter -
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:15 pm 126. crystal
the final mix when you fight the soldier is the place going to be the same when kh3 comes out
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:16 pm 127. mKh
hey crystal
on 22 Apr 2007 at 7:21 pm 128. crystal
hey mkh
on 22 Apr 2007 at 9:19 pm 129. sorasbestfriend
JD yours is pretty good it makes it sound awesome mine is ok but i think yours or mine have a chance
on 23 Apr 2007 at 11:09 pm 130. Shakespeare
Yay, time to chip in my theory!
I still think that the old man is sort of like Darth Sidious (Emperor Palpatine), and Xehanort (the man in the Heartless armor) is his Darth Vader. At first, Aqua, Ven, the Enigmatic Soldier and Xehanort were all working for good (though not all 4 were presumably of the alignment of Light). Perhaps there’s a sort of equivalent to the Jedi Council for Keyblade Wielders…who knows? Perhaps that’s the purpose of the Chasers? To find those who are potential Wielders and train them to fight for the light? For the purpose of this theory, we will assume the aforementioned postulation is true.
So Aqua, Ven, E.S. and Xehanort are the four Chasers, and it’s their duty to protect Kingdom Hearts by training new Keyblade Wielders. However, as we all know, the lure of power is great, and Xehanort, already inclined toward using the Darkness, would be easy to seduce with the suggestion of more power through the Darkness.
That’s where the old man comes in and begins turning Xehanort against the other Chasers. Just as how Anakin was more powerful than pretty much any other Jedi, but was easily influenced, Xehanort and the old man were powerful enough to overwhelm the other three Chasers.
To continue the Star Wars parallel, since it’s very easy to draw (it’s practically the epitome of the Hero’s Cycle, and one of the most well-known, after all), the E.S. is like Yoda. Though the other two Chasers were (presumably) slain (Aqua’s armor is hidden deep under Hollow Bastion, as we can see in the clips from FM+, and Xemnas seems to go there frequently to gloat about his victory; one can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice as the subtitles read ‘Hisashiburi na…tomo yo’, “Long time no see…’friend’”.), the E.S. went on in exile, hidden away in that portal in the Hall of the Cornerstone.
Something even more worrying for the future is this: If you check the translated pages of Another Report, when a Heartless is killed, the heart returns to it’s body. If the body is not available (is a Nobody), then it ‘waits’. If a Nobody is killed and it’s Heartless was killed first, then they recombine normally. If the Heartless is still at large, then the Nobody disappears. This spells an unfortunate end for most of the Organization…but Xehanort’s Heartless was killed in KH1, and his Nobody in KH2.
Logically, it follows that now Xehanort’s Heart can recombine with his body, and Xehanort will return.
on 24 Apr 2007 at 4:01 pm 131. sora
i just found out that my name which is Eoghan means sora in japanese yay for me
on 27 Apr 2007 at 12:21 am 132. Axel
Man thats the most biggest keyblade I ever saw.I wonder is Roxas with those knights?
on 27 Apr 2007 at 6:32 pm 133. down in the dumps
MAN THAT GUY LOOKS TOO HARD TO BEAT.
STILL I REALY WISH TO HAVE THAT KH2 FM+
SO I CAN HAVE A CHANCE AT HIM
on 27 Apr 2007 at 6:37 pm 134. down in the dumps
ANY BODY KNOWS WHERE TO GET THAT GAME?
PLEASE I NEED AN ANSWER
MY MESSENGER IS THE FOLLOWING
sora_thekey@hotmail.com
on 27 Apr 2007 at 10:59 pm 135. master hearts
after much study i figured out that roxas is the one you people call ven and that ven is really the chaser with brown hair and aqua being the woman with blue hair
on 27 Apr 2007 at 10:59 pm 136. master hearts
either way roxas is still roxas
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:00 pm 137. master hearts
and the ES is really vens pedicessor
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:02 pm 138. master hearts
according to shakespeares theory the chasers were at one point taught by someone else and the ES had accually passed his hatred of xeahnort to ven
UNDERSTAND NOW?
on 27 Apr 2007 at 11:03 pm 139. master hearts
please respond to my previous posts if you think my theory is valid
on 28 Apr 2007 at 10:36 pm 140. GERALD
THE GUY THAT GOT THE SOLIDER DOWN TO 1 HP I WILL GIVE HIM LOTS OF RESPECT AND HE HAS LOTS OF STRENGHT TO DEFEAT HIM GOOD JOB!
on 29 Apr 2007 at 2:59 am 141. Kejax
yes i think that the guy in the one video looked like roxas but i think hes actually from another of nomuras new games im gonna do a bit more research on that
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:38 pm 142. Trace
OMG Shakespeare, that’s a really good hypothesis. The best I have ever come across, to the point where I believe it to be 97.589759% true. Seriously, you may be on to something, but what of the aforementioned “memory” of Xehanort? Another thing that bugs me is Xemnas at the finale of KH2, where the three meet in that strange dimension. Something tells me that wasn’t the same Xemnas they had been fighting, the same material being, but maybe his ethereal self, as if they had gone to the darkness nobodies are believed to retreat to, the same realm Namine had feared. I am only postulating enough to get under people’s skin and make them venture further into whatever they may believe, but nonetheless, this talk about Chasers and the Keyblade War is intriguing. We can at least assume the ‘Birth by Sleep’ event occurs in the same timeline as KH2, due to Sora’s interaction with the Enigmatic Soldier… right?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:44 pm 143. Trace
Also, is there a video up of Xemnas and this Chaser armour that belonged to the alleged Aqua in ‘Birth by Sleep’?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 10:48 pm 144. Trace
LOL ALSO, did you know that a Chaser is not only a hunter or literally someone chasing someone else, but according to the fabulous Wikipedia, a Chaser is “a person who produces weapons, mainly for war”?
on 29 Apr 2007 at 11:50 pm 145. sorasbestfriend
omg duh! probably not but this a theory. Birth by Sleep. i know ppl have known that b4 but listen to this 1. while sora was asleep he had a dream about a great battle or something and while he was sleeping something in his heart caused his certain dreams to b BORN. therefore creating the battle and mickey went there ( the battle ) after KH2 and needed help so he sent a letter to riku and sora that he needed help\.therefore BIRTH BY SLEEP. probably not but maybe.
on 30 Apr 2007 at 12:29 am 146. MasterKeyblade777
Wait, is Aqua and Vein both the soilders that the enigma soilder was fighting with in the secret ending?
on 30 Apr 2007 at 2:02 am 147. Shakespeare
Ven cannot be Roxas (Nomura said that the 3 knights were new characters), and Ven cannot be the E.S., because it doesn’t make much sense for him to call his OWN name when trying to figure out who Sora is. He’s trying to identify him, which is why he first calls out his comrades’ names. (Perhaps that thing he did with his eyes at the end of the video made him blind after the fight?) He calls out ‘Aqua…Ven…’ and when he gets no response but knows that the person before him has a Keyblade, he’s confused. He KNOWS the person there isn’t Xehanort (presumably, Xehanort would just try to kill him instead of letting him talk), but doesn’t know who else it could be.
But now I have to re-read my theory…XDD
OK. Done. Now, considering part of Master Hearts’ other theory, about the Chasers having been trained, consider this: At the end of the first video, they all go pick up the Keyblades used by Sora, Riku and Mickey.
My theory is that they were about to set out and find the ones that each of those Keyblades had chosen, so that they could train them to be the next generation of Chasers. (Xehanort, the fourth Chaser, is missing, and thus a fourth Keyblade, Kairi’s, is missing as well.) According to this theory, the E.S. would have trained Sora, Ven would have trained Riku, and Aqua would have trained Mickey. (Ironically, this would leave Xehanort, the one who turns evil, to train Kairi, a Princess of Heart.)
on 30 Apr 2007 at 3:39 am 148. ChainWielder33
Where did the three soldiers come from and where did the old man come from and if only sora riku and king mickey hold those key blades why can the three soldiers also hold them?
on 30 Apr 2007 at 4:17 am 149. Trace
Shakespeare’s theories sound more sound by the moment. After viewing the two videos concerning the Room of Sleep (Xigbar & Zexion) and Xemnas’ trip to said room and his interaction with Aqua’s armour, I’m looking to Shakes for more info. His idea that Xehanort was a Chaser, thus an ally/FRIEND to Aqua makes sense. I’ve been thinking… Xehanort is Another X or No Heart X, isn’t it? Isn’t that a Nobodies name? Something-something-X? Does that mean that Ansem the Wise’s apprentice, Xehanort, was already a nobody? I’m trying to think… There was a guy involved with “the people who wield keys” that lost his memory, according to Xigbar, and may have also lost his heart, in essence creating a Heartless and a Nobody… Wait, Ansem from KH1 was Xehanort’s Heartless, meaning Xehanort lost his heart in order for that Ansem to live. But if Xehanort was Heartless or a Nobody already, what heart could he have lost? And what about that name? I’m sorry I can’t postulate any hypotheses, but I’ll just provide a bunch of stuff for Shakes to sort through, okay? ^.^ Birth by sleep must relate to that room. The only thing that comes from sleeping is dreaming, right? And when you think of heart and body, don’t you also think of mind and soul? Is that the theme they are going with here? So many queries and I am no closer to anything that sounds plausible!
on 30 Apr 2007 at 5:10 pm 150. Trace
I had an epiphane (sp?) of sorts here. When I postulated that Xehanort is a Nobody’s name, I may have been on to something. When Xemnas is in Hollow Bastion, before he travels the literal downward spiral into the Room of Sleep, he logs onto a computer with the username ‘Another.’ Well I’ll be, the name Xehanort is Another X. There is a correlation. Also, according to Xigbar, “people with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas… no… Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?” Xehanort was a Chaser and was one of those people with “the blade of keys,” along with Aqua and Ven, but lost his memory along the way. I can keep on conjuring up theories, but will it ever get us anywhere?
on 01 May 2007 at 4:55 am 151. Shakespeare
Regarding Trace’s comment on Xehanort’s name:
One of my favorite theories regarding Xehanort’s name came from a fanfic that I read. When Ansem the Wise found Xehanort and took him in, the young man had forgotten everything. Ansem asked him where he was from, how he had gotten in such a state, and always got the reply ‘I don’t remember’. When he finally asked ‘Do you at least remember your name?’ and was met with another ‘I don’t remember’, he declared that his name was “Just another X to be filled in”. Rearrange ‘Xehanort’, and you get ‘Another X’, (’another unknown’, just like in Algebra). Someone else on here pointed out that ‘Ansem’ rearranges to ‘Names’, something that seems to change a lot whenever Xehanort is involved.
But not all Nobodies have names with Xs in them, only members of Organization XIII. That is the ‘mark’ that shows that they are part of a brotherhood. Naminé’s name doesn’t have an X in it, even though she was a Nobody. (Granted, she was highly unusual, but so was Roxas, and he has an Organization name.) And besides, names like ‘Axel’ are real names that just happen to have an ‘X’ in them; being a Nobody doesn’t mean you have an X in your name, and having an X in your name doesn’t mean you’re a Nobody.
I’d go on, but it’s 11:43, and I’m really tired…and this post is gonna be long enough as it is, so I’ll just leave these last thoughts as theories (and if you want the thought behind them, just ask). There is a possibility of losing your heart multiple times and becoming whole multiple times, as long as your Heartless is destroyed before your Nobody. (Another Report says that, if that order is followed, the Heart and the Body will recombine into a whole being; in short, this means that Xehanort is alive again.)
And regarding Mind and Soul (along with Body and Heart), Secret Ansem Report #4 makes mention of separating the soul from the heart and body resulting in death, but removal of the heart does not. This is probably a tie-in to the Gaia Theory, which crops up in a lot of Squeenix games (FFVII most notably; Sephiroth and Shinra were both taking advantage of the Planet’s soul for their own ends, and on several occasions throughout the game you could hear the Planet scream in agony as its soul was sucked out by Shinra’s Mako reactors).
on 02 May 2007 at 5:15 am 152. Trace
Good call, Shakes. You got me on that one. So Xemnas/Xehanort should still be alive after the conclusion of KH2, correct? The heart and body recombined, but then what? Would he appear, but with amnesia again? With no recollection of anything? If so, that would parallel his debut appearence when Ansem the Wise took him in, which could lead anyone to believe that Xehanort’s death and rebirth is cyclic. Also, the events in Sunset Horizons and Fate of the Unknown could all be memories that Xemnas recollected in the Room of Sleep. Proof of this can be found in the set of Chaser armour Xemnas comments on when he seats himself in said room. What happened to Aqua, and the other two Chasers, had to have happened before present day, otherwise Xemnas wouldn’t have that armour. And the fact that the Enigmatic Soldier, (AKA Tomari shi Shinen”/”Remaining Thought”) has such resentment for Xehanort could be substantiated by the fact that Xehanort turned traitor. Unfortunately, this equals nothing but speculation and gossip.
on 02 May 2007 at 7:01 am 153. Shakespeare
Quite true, Xehanort should be alive now, and would be either in the Realm of Darkness like at the end of KH2, or in the room where you fought Xemnas. I think that a cyclical birth and rebirth for Xehanort would be an interesting element to the game. It would show that balance must be maintained between Light and Darkness, in that Xehanort cannot ever be completely vanquished. Nomura hasn’t said anything about the state of the person’s memory once their heart and body have been reunited, but Kairi and Sora both seemed OK.
(Interesting to note, however, is that Roxas remembered nothing of before, and lost his memory after being placed in the Digital Twilight Town. He, however, was able to regain his memories, as well…was it because of Naminé? Could she have been able to put Xemnas’ memory back together? Since Roxas had the ability to wield a Keyblade just as Sora could, does that imply that Kairi could have a similar power to Naminé that she simply hasn’t realized yet? So many questions…)
The only fictional thing that comes to mind where people have lost their memories is in Harry Potter with the use of Memory Charms. However, even if your memory has been modified, it is possible to break the memory charm. That was the purpose of the original experimentation on Xehanort; to find a way to retrieve his memory. (It wasn’t truly LOST, it just couldn’t be found.) Then, after becoming a Heartless had failed to produce the answers he was looking for, ‘Ansem’ (now Xemnas) constructed Castle Oblivion for ongoing research into memory through the use of Naminé’s power. There’s no telling how much could have been learned in Castle Oblivion and passed on to the Superior…perhaps Xehanort could have found some clue that will help him retrieve what he has lost?
With the specific use of ‘Shinen’ in the Japanese name for the E.S., it leads you to wonder, is he similar to Sephiroth’s Shinentai (Shinentai = ‘Body of thought’) in Advent Children? Or possibly like the Fayth of FFX? (Birth by Sleep; the Aeons of FFX were created by the dreams of the Fayth.) In that case, it would mean that the Chasers were dead, but somehow managing to carry on. (It could also explain why the E.S. is so tough; if he doesn’t have an actual body to damage or restrict him, then defeating him would be quite difficult.)
on 04 May 2007 at 10:42 am 154. Mixup
Shakespeare, in regards to the last thing you said in your post… you mention that the soul cannot be removed, right?
BUT… because we had no idea about the nobodies before KH2… there could be a very good chance that, instead of being the original Xehanort we see in the trailers… it could be a whole new one… we know the soul is what all Heartless and Nobodies lack, and that cannot be removed without death, we never covered the Mind. think about it… that balled dude in the trailers might not actually be the original, living Xehanort, in fact, it could be the remains of the Third aspect of a person… the last boss in KH1 was Xehanort’s Heartless, and the last boss in KH2 was his Nobody… the balled guy could be the result of a person’s Mind being released from his Body when he looses his Heart.
on 04 May 2007 at 11:40 pm 155. Sephiros
Heartless and Nobodies are not seeking for the soul, because Nobodies are body and soul. About the mind as the third element, it can be, because we dont know what happen to the mind of a person that have been divided into a heartless and nobody. I think Xehanort is a nobody because of the X in his name, Xehanort=Noheart + X or another + X, maybe the X was put there by Ansem the Wise, if you can see Ansem=Names.
Maybe Ansem the Wise as the leader of Radiant Garden, put the names of people who are lost or confuse.
Xehanort as a nobody seeks to have a heart, and made an artificial one, so he become whole again, but seeking more about the mysteries of the heart, he turns into a heartless and nobody. So Ansem is the heartless of Xehanort, who was a nobody, and Xemnas is the nobody of a nobody, Xehanort. Maybe the bald man in the video has the ability to divide himself in heartless and nobody as he pleases, but after the fight his nobody part loses his mind and was found by Ansem the wise. So the bald man is still there, but only as a heartless. The bald man I think is one of the four chaser, the other three are Aqua, Ven and the E.S. I dont know about this theory, but is the best I have found.
on 04 May 2007 at 11:57 pm 156. Mixup
Dang… that’s some good food-for-thought…
and yes, I am certain that Xehanort was one of the chasers, but probably betrayed them… if you look at the way E.S. talks about him in this battle, it really does seem like he is a traitor… but still…
the Heartless of a Nobody…
and the Nobody of a Nobody…
if we backtrack a little to KH1, wasn’t it proven that one could not artificially make a Heart (Halloween Town)?
That kinda nulls that theory…
And here is some ideas to poke around with…
It has been confirmed that the old dude in the trailer IS Xehanort, because of the way E.S. talks…
Look at Xehanort in the trailer. He is FREAKING OLD!
How can it be in the past if Xehanort is younger in KH2 than he is in the trailer. Unless he ages backwards, or something… And you can’t say it is because Nobodies and Heartless are different ages to their human counterparts-since Sora’s Nobody (Roxas) and Xehanort’s Heartless (Ansem in KH1)were both the same ages as Sora and Xehanort/Xemnas.
Maybe… a good explanation is going back to my “Third Aspect” theory, and that is not the complete Xehanort in the trailers, but the remains of an incredibly powerful person loosing there Heart and Body to become something entirely different from a Heartless or a Nobody.
And I know that is contradicting what we already know, that Xehanort became a Heartless while working for Ansem…
I suppose you may be right, though… because E.S. actually says stuff like “you are not the one I chose” or something like that… it just looks like the E.S. fight is based in the past.
Just a little food-for-thought…
The trailer shows Xehanort kicking major ass. So…
how did he wind up arriving at Ansem’s door all beaten up and with no memory. Add that to the fact Mickey was in the trailer, but has NO memory of what when he tells you about Xehanort in KH2. Do you think that could be the results of the both of them going through Castle Oblivion at one point or another? If it is… why?
I could go on some more… but this is long enough as it is…
on 05 May 2007 at 12:00 am 157. Mixup
Hell… we could answer all of those questions with a single statement…
The trailers are based in the future!
on 05 May 2007 at 2:00 am 158. Shakespeare
I don’t think that the bald man is Xehanort, I think that the one in the Heartless Armor is Xehanort. (KH1!Ansem probably wears his outfit because he considers the bald guy to be some sort of mentor to him, not necessarily because they’re the same person.) The bald man, according to my theories, turned Xehanort against the others. And how could you be the Nobody of a Nobody? Nobodies don’t have hearts, and they can’t lose what they don’t have. Besides, Xehanort couldn’t have shed his heart if he didn’t have one.
Nomura said something about what happens to the mind when someone splits into a Nobody and a Heartless (they are essentially the same, but [Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas] have separate minds). But since standard Nobodies operate on a higher level than standard Heartless, it can be assumed that the majority of the mind remains with the Nobody. In essence, the mind fractures, and a piece goes with each (at least in the case at hand, namely Xehanort; Kairi was pretty much comatose when she lost her heart, and Sora was a simple Shadow Heartless, but maintained enough sentience to follow Kairi. And don’t forget that Sora managed to function just fine in Castle Oblivion, when Roxas was off doing whatever for Organization XIII).
As for it taking place in the future, considering how much evidence (such as Nomura’s own statements) point to it taking place in the past…but what about an alternate dimension…one where time has no meaning? THAT’D make for an interesting twist…the old man could be Xehanort from an alternate reality, taking over Xehanort from the reality that we know in the series and corrupting what is essentially himself, and sowing the seeds for his domination with himself as his own right hand man.
Crazy.
on 05 May 2007 at 7:00 am 159. Mixup
…
well that was a good idea, and seeing as how i’m fresh out of my own, i will just stop with the theories and wait patiently for more information.
on 07 May 2007 at 4:32 am 160. Shakespeare
Oh, don’t stop with theories. Theories make for good discussion, and that’s what keeps me coming here. XDD
on 08 May 2007 at 9:48 pm 161. Naxire
Hmm…this is quite the heated discussion. I would give you my input, but I think I shall simply sit back and see what you guys have to say.
on 08 May 2007 at 9:52 pm 162. Bella
Zen? Are you on?
on 08 May 2007 at 9:54 pm 163. Bella
Hello.
on 08 May 2007 at 9:55 pm 164. Rosalie
Hello Bella!
on 08 May 2007 at 9:56 pm 165. Rosalie
How are you?
on 08 May 2007 at 9:56 pm 166. Rosalie
Bella??
on 08 May 2007 at 9:57 pm 167. Rosalie
Hello??
on 08 May 2007 at 9:57 pm 168. Rosalie
Is anyone there?
on 08 May 2007 at 9:58 pm 169. Rosalie
Bella? Zen? Amy? Alice? Ariona? Anyone?
on 08 May 2007 at 9:58 pm 170. Bella
Hey, Rosie! Nobody is on! Sigh of sadness.
on 08 May 2007 at 9:58 pm 171. Rosalie
Fine I’ll just talk to myself then
on 08 May 2007 at 9:58 pm 172. Rosalie
Oh Hi Bell!!
on 08 May 2007 at 9:59 pm 173. Bella
Zen is on here somewhere…ZEN? WHERE ARE YOU?
on 08 May 2007 at 9:59 pm 174. Rosalie
I’m so happy I don’t have to talk to myself
on 08 May 2007 at 10:00 pm 175. Rosalie
I’ll help you….. ZEN CAN YOU HEAR ME?!?!?!?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:00 pm 176. Bella
on 08 May 2007 at 10:01 pm 177. Rosalie
HELLO?? ARE YOU THERE ZEN?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:01 pm 178. Zen
Sorry, my friends. I was looking for people in other places.
I like you, too, though!
How’s it going?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:01 pm 179. Bella
Dumb computer! It’s being slow. Let’s follow yesterday’s plan, Rosie!
you didn’t do your fair shair of clean up today!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:02 pm 180. Rosalie
we should get into another argument so people will come like they did last time
on 08 May 2007 at 10:02 pm 181. Rosalie
Hi Zen how are you?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:03 pm 182. Rosalie
I’m bored
on 08 May 2007 at 10:03 pm 183. Zen
I’m good, Rose.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:03 pm 184. Rosalie
we should talk about something interesting
on 08 May 2007 at 10:04 pm 185. Rosalie
I’m glad
on 08 May 2007 at 10:04 pm 186. Bella
You’re such a jerk, Rosie! Makeing poor little Tisha do all the work!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:04 pm 187. Rosalie
are you still here Bell?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:04 pm 188. Zen
I’m bored too.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:04 pm 189. Rosalie
I wasn’t the only one!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:05 pm 190. Bella
Yes I’m still here!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:05 pm 191. Rosalie
we should start an “I’m Bored” club
on 08 May 2007 at 10:05 pm 192. Zen
Whoa, you guys are such morons! Don’t argue like that! We cool!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:05 pm 193. Bella
Okay, well I’m allergic to nicotine! You’re just too lazy.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:06 pm 194. Rosalie
Oh good don’t go leaving us all alone
on 08 May 2007 at 10:06 pm 195. Bella
Don’t change the subject!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:06 pm 196. Rosalie
let us argue about something else
on 08 May 2007 at 10:06 pm 197. Zen
I despise immature arguers.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:07 pm 198. Bella
Rosalie! You’re ruining my perfect plan!
Now, BRandon really is going to dump you!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:07 pm 199. Riku
You really do pick the most random pages to have conversations lol.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:08 pm 200. Bella
It worked! yay!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:08 pm 201. Rosalie
Sorry i had to go answer the phone but i’m back now
on 08 May 2007 at 10:08 pm 202. Bella
I am a genius!
Riku, you’re the only one who’s been on here for a while!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:09 pm 203. Bella
Zen! Where’d you go?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:09 pm 204. Rosalie
Hi Riku! Dang Bell we’re good
on 08 May 2007 at 10:09 pm 205. Bella
You left, Rosie? When was that? Hm…
on 08 May 2007 at 10:10 pm 206. Rosalie
Yeah we’ve been waiting for people to get on for 10 minutes
on 08 May 2007 at 10:10 pm 207. Zen
Hey Riku, they’re a little weird.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:10 pm 208. Bella
Told you it would work!
i have a told-you-so gleam in my eye.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:10 pm 209. Rosalie
We aren’t that weird
on 08 May 2007 at 10:10 pm 210. Riku
I’ve been around way too long
on 08 May 2007 at 10:11 pm 211. Rosalie
Yeah Bella I can picture it
on 08 May 2007 at 10:11 pm 212. Bella
WE are not weird! Do weird people help clean their communities? I think not! They’re the ones messing it up.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:11 pm 213. Bella
Picture What?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:12 pm 214. Zen
I cleaned up, too, yo. I’m just not freakish about it.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:12 pm 215. Rosalie
yeah all the smoker people that throw their cigarets on the ground and make other people pick them up
on 08 May 2007 at 10:12 pm 216. Rosalie
The I-told-you-so gleam in you eye
on 08 May 2007 at 10:12 pm 217. Bella
Tash picked everything up w/ her bare hands. Ew…
on 08 May 2007 at 10:13 pm 218. Bella
Oh. Yeah…it’s special, isn’t it?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:13 pm 219. Rosalie
It was gross but I guess she isn’t as germaphobic as me and Bella
on 08 May 2007 at 10:14 pm 220. Rosalie
Yeah Bell it’s really special
on 08 May 2007 at 10:14 pm 221. Bella
It’s really nasty to do that. SHe could die. If she gets sick in the next few days, we’ll all know why. Did Riku leave?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:14 pm 222. Zen
You scared him away.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:15 pm 223. Rosalie
Yes I agree Bella I bet she’ll get sick and then kill over during the middle of class *gasp*
on 08 May 2007 at 10:15 pm 224. Bella
It was Rosie’s fault. Plus, he could have told us. Zen? When do we have to get the boy?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:15 pm 225. Rosalie
Way to go Bell you made Riku leave
on 08 May 2007 at 10:16 pm 226. Rosalie
smooth
on 08 May 2007 at 10:16 pm 227. Zen
We don’t. He’s home.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:16 pm 228. Bella
Oh…I’m so tired. . . Stupid Riku. That wasn’t very nice!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:17 pm 229. Rosalie
Oh oh tell him Rosalie says hi!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:17 pm 230. Bella
Piano…right? PIANO? Or is he staying at school? Call & ask Mummy.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:17 pm 231. Bella
I’ll tell him, Rosie.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:17 pm 232. Rosalie
Bell we’ve had this talk before it isn’t very nice to call people stupid
on 08 May 2007 at 10:18 pm 233. Zen
HE’S HOME! I TALKED TO EMMITT!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:18 pm 234. Rosalie
Oh thank you Bella
on 08 May 2007 at 10:18 pm 235. Rosalie
OH tell Emmit i says hi too!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:18 pm 236. Bella
Humph. You’re not very nice.
you get two 
. . .
frowny faces.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:19 pm 237. Rosalie
oops I mean Emmitt sorry i can’t spell
on 08 May 2007 at 10:19 pm 238. Rosalie
Are you talking to me or Zen, Bell?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:20 pm 239. Rosalie
I think Riku left he hasn’t said anything for 10 minutes
on 08 May 2007 at 10:21 pm 240. Rosalie
Are you guys still there?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:21 pm 241. Rosalie
Thanks leave me to talk to myself
on 08 May 2007 at 10:22 pm 242. Bella
No you cannot. Well, I need other intertainment than you two.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:22 pm 243. Rosalie
Fine then. Hello myself how are you?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:22 pm 244. Rosalie
oh Bella came back thanks Bell
on 08 May 2007 at 10:23 pm 245. Bella
I’m here! Zen? Where did you go? OKay, I talked to both of you at school, so you’re not too much fun…
on 08 May 2007 at 10:23 pm 246. Rosalie
what other entertainment do you need?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:23 pm 247. Rosalie
What’s more entertaining then me? *sarcasim*
on 08 May 2007 at 10:24 pm 248. Bella
A lot. I get bored very easily as you should already know.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:24 pm 249. Bella
You’re dull, Rosie. I’m sick of you. jk, but I am getting bored…
on 08 May 2007 at 10:24 pm 250. Rosalie
Yeah but you are also very easily entertained but then again so am I.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:25 pm 251. Bella
Easily entertained if you’re interesting which you two are not at the moment.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:25 pm 252. Rosalie
Well sorry but I need to go so I can go write my ECR’s and BCR’s for English and finish my Algebra.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:26 pm 253. Rosalie
So sorry I can’t be more interesting Bell.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:26 pm 254. Bella
Crappers. I gotta do that too. Zen? Nobody else is here. Let’s go. Bye, Rosalie!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:27 pm 255. Rosalie
Bye Bella call me later ok?
on 08 May 2007 at 10:27 pm 256. Rosalie
How many do you gotta write? I have 4
on 08 May 2007 at 10:27 pm 257. Bella
Got it. ZEn? LEt’s go!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:28 pm 258. Rosalie
Farewell all!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:28 pm 259. Bella
I have to do 2. And take tests during lunch hour because she won’t take it w/out the tests.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:28 pm 260. Bella
Uh…bye, Rosie. ZEn? Let’s GO!
on 08 May 2007 at 10:29 pm 261. Bella
Wait…ZEn? I’m going to go get a book. Or…see if they have the one I want.
on 08 May 2007 at 10:39 pm 262. Passion
o.m.g. that was one of the coolest fights i have ever seen. wow.
on 09 May 2007 at 12:06 am 263. Shakespeare
Wow…that was an odd little conversation I missed out on. O,o
on 09 May 2007 at 5:50 am 264. Mixup
same here, eh, Shakes…
on 09 May 2007 at 6:47 am 265. Shakespeare
Yeah…not to change the subject or anything but…anyone have any crackpot theories? Gimme anything, I’ll do my best to substantiate it.
on 09 May 2007 at 8:37 pm 266. Raxel
Enigmatic soldier’s keyblade is nice and shall be mine.
on 09 May 2007 at 9:54 pm 267. Alice
Hey Everyone, How’s it goin
on 09 May 2007 at 9:56 pm 268. Alice
Is anyone there?
on 09 May 2007 at 9:57 pm 269. Alice
K, I’m leaving
on 10 May 2007 at 10:22 pm 270. Shakespeare
…I think this thread has died. O,o
What a pity.
on 12 May 2007 at 1:20 am 271. Reese
I wonder what that soilder’s name is since he’s the father of Riku
on 12 May 2007 at 1:31 am 272. mKh
he is not the father of riku
on 12 May 2007 at 12:58 pm 273. Master Hearts
ok shakes i have some new information don’t think you could count this as a theory but i think that since Roxas still has a heart as hinted in final mix 2
i believe that ven could be the nobody of a nobody if thats possible since he still had a heart. well thats it give me some backup info if applicable
on 12 May 2007 at 5:51 pm 274. Shakespeare
What makes you think that Roxas still has a heart? I haven’t watched all the new scenes since my internet connection is so slow. But a Nobody of a Nobody? That would be like the Heartless of a Heartless. It’s not possible to lose something that you don’t have.
If Ven is Roxas’s Nobody, then that would mean that Roxas wasn’t actually a Nobody. When we get to play as Roxas, he doesn’t SEEM to be a Nobody because he has lost all memory of BEING a Nobody. He doesn’t know any different.
on 12 May 2007 at 7:04 pm 275. Master Hearts
just a thought i no it sux but still there are so many rumors on this im not sure what to believe
on 13 May 2007 at 11:24 pm 276. Shakespeare
Yeah, lots of people always speculate when something this big in the fandom comes around…I mean, just look at all the theories for Harry Potter.
on 15 May 2007 at 5:07 am 277. Bob
the soldiers name is Terra
on 15 May 2007 at 5:28 am 278. Zen
Bob, are you a friend of Dominic from this site?
on 15 May 2007 at 7:48 pm 279. Mohrphorm
Hmmm… I think he was applying to Riku. Riku was the one who was originally destined to wield the Kingdom Key.
on 16 May 2007 at 1:30 pm 280. Shakespeare
What applied to Riku? I think I missed something…
on 16 May 2007 at 4:38 pm 281. Sephiros
Shakespeare, there can be a nobody from a nobody. I will explain. I think that the soldier that came out of the bald man is xehanort, he is the nobody and the bald man is the heartless of a complete being. The bald man has the ability to separate in his two forms. I think that after the fight, the soldier (Xehanort) lose his memory and was rescue by Ansem the Wise. Xehanort start his research and find a way to create an ARTIFICIAL HEART so he can use it. He became a complete being again, but want to know so bad everything about the heart that experimeted on his own body, whole again thnx to the artifial heart. When he experimented with his body, he became a heartless(Ansem) and a nobody(Xemnas). I dont know if his name was Xehanort from the start or if Ansem the Wise put him that name because he does not remember anything.
on 16 May 2007 at 8:23 pm 282. Fulcan Ashnard Ryst
Perhaps you’re all forgetting. There are THREE enemies, not two. The three parts: Heart, Body, Soul/Memories. I belive the Enigmatic Knights to be the Endless (Soul/Memories) of Sora, Kairi, and Riku.
on 16 May 2007 at 8:25 pm 283. Fulcan Ashnard Ryst
Also to mention that I belive Heartless with strong will can produce a Synthetic Body, as well as Nobodies with strong will can produce Synthetic Hearts. Examples of this are Xehanort, Sora, and Kairi, for Heartless, and Roxas, Axel, and Namine, for Nobodies. Axel said before he ‘faded’ that “You make me feel… the same way.” Normal nobodies cannot feel, and he would not lie to Sora on his ‘death’ bed.
on 16 May 2007 at 8:42 pm 284. Mohrphorm
In order to theorize better on the “soul bad guys,” we need to know the soul’s function. Nobodies have Souls and bodies, the body is just a shell… so what does the soul do?
on 17 May 2007 at 2:20 pm 285. Shakespeare
I haven’t found any evidence suggesting that Xehanort was given an artificial heart. Remember that Finkelstein’s attempt to make an artificial heart failed. Ansem the Wise doesn’t understand the complexity and strength of the heart, he said so himself. And the Heartless-making machine didn’t make artificial hearts, it make artificial Heartless. Xehanort’s report (written under the name Ansem) said that building the Heartless Machine was a step toward creating an artificial heart (’a heart from nothing’ in the text), not that it actually created artificial hearts.
Besides, can a heart (in Kingdom Hearts) be transplanted from one being to another in order to complete them? Nomura said that the heart reunites with its own body, so it seems that each one instinctively knows which heart belongs in which body…would a body reject a heart that wasn’t its own? (Kairi’s heart can be considered exceptional, so the events surrounding her and Sora in KH1 don’t apply; I mean your average, everyday heart full of darkness and memories and such.)
on 18 May 2007 at 4:16 am 286. Shakespeare
A body without a soul is dead; the separation of the heart from the body does not result in death, but the separation of the soul from the body kills the subject instantly. Secret Ansem Report 4 states this, and you can see how this idea ties in with a lot of other Nomura games.
In Final Fantasy VII, the Lifestream was somewhat like the soul of the planet; all living things existed because of the Lifestream, and the planet itself is alive (the Gaia Theory is a popular theme in FF). Without it, the planet would die and crumble into dust. As the Mako reactors sucked the Lifestream out of the planet to refine it into electricity, the planet slowly started to go barren (especially around Midgar; the landscape is bleak and nothing grows until you get close to Kalm.)
The idea exists in Final Fantasy IX as well. The planet Terra was dying, and was forced to consume the souls of other worlds to continue to survive (kind of like Galactus from the Fantastic Four), but would thus kill the planets it fed off of. However, in that game, beings without souls were created on Terra (the Genomes), who did not age and simply wandered about like automatons without any care for what happened around them…rather like robots. (A few Genomes were given souls, and boy, did they show a stark contrast to their brethren.) The Black Mages, also like robots, were given life and magical power through the Mist, the remains of souls after they had been processed by the Iifa Tree (a sort of soul-cleansing measure that purified souls at the expense of spewing the deadly Mist across the entire Mist Continent via its roots, causing all sorts of horrible monsters to crop up). However, the Black Mages could ‘awaken’ and function on their own, just like anyone else. (Take a look at little Vivi, for instance.)
It resurfaces again in Final Fantasy X with the Farplane and the Pyreflies. All souls in FFX return to the Farplane when Sent, just like all souls return to the planet in FFVII and FFIX. (There is a blatant connection in FFX-2 to FFVII, when Shinra (hardy har har) announces that an endless amount of energy lies within the Farplane, and that through tapping into it, life would be incredibly easy. Nomura has said that he intended for that to be a direct connection to FFVII, where the Shinra Electric Power Company does exactly that with their Mako reactors. But we all know how THAT one turned out…)
So with that said, I don’t think it’s any different in Kingdom Hearts. Since a world has a heart, it follows that a world would also have a soul (a Lifestream, we’ll call it), and that without that Lifestream, the world would crumble away, never to be recovered like a heart lost in the Darkness can be. The same happens on a smaller scale. One person can lose their heart to Darkness and become a Heartless and a Nobody, but when reunited, they return to life as usual (just like everyone did when the worlds were restored at the end of KH1). However, if their soul was removed, then they would simply cease to live.
on 19 May 2007 at 1:56 am 287. Sephiros
About the soul thing, in an ansem report it says that a nobody is made from the soul and the body, so the soul is not from the third part. I was considering memories and mind to be like the third aspect of a whole being, but only time will tell us. And even if we continue with theories, we cant expect anything until the game arrives or Nomura giving us info.
on 19 May 2007 at 5:48 am 288. Shakespeare
Yeah, I know. I’m just stating what we already know, both from the game and from Nomura’s past stories. (And my mini-editorial about souls wasn’t directed at you, so no worries. ^^)
In any case, the soul must be the third aspect of a whole being, since without it, a being ceases to exist. However, Sora, Kairi and Xehanort still existed, despite memory loss on the part of each of them, and I think we can agree that they are all (or at least Sora and Kairi are) complete beings, right?
on 19 May 2007 at 10:26 pm 289. Mohrphorm
The Ansem Report even clearly states the three components as “the heart, body, and soul”. He was speaking of them as 3 different things.
on 20 May 2007 at 2:01 am 290. Evoba Esir
What if this battle takes place in the past… I don’t have the game, so i’m just spit-balling here… that black void-like thing could be a portal to the past, because in the secret ending, it shows all three of them, and the bald guy fighting in what appears to be that very same place… I forgot how the secret video ended (sorry)…but I THINK the three knights lost, so maybe, when the bald guy opened up kingdom hearts (for some reason) maybe after that he just… packed up and left… forgetting about the three soldiers, maybe Terra (Enigmatic Soldier) needed to rest (or something like that, whatever) and knew that if he fought the bald guy again, he would surely lose (because if three of those knights can’t deafeat the bald guy, he knew just one couldn’t, either) so maybe, the bald guy is (another MAJOR SPIT-BALL), DiZ’s (or someone) nobody who wanted to kill them because maybe those were (guessing here, work with me…) the forms of the Organization XIII members before they turned into nobodies, because if you look at Sora’s nobody (Roxas) it looks nothing like him (maybe, kind of like him) so maybe it could’ve been (spit-ball…again) like, Axel’s regular form, because he hates betrayal, so maybe when the other three knight’s were defeated, maybe they left the Enigmatic Soldier (thinking he was actually dead) and he thought his knight friends LEFT him to die, so maybe that’s why he hates treachery… (EXTREME F***ing spitball) maybe Sora was already a nobody, and had another form before he became Sora, and maybe he was one of the knight’s, and thats how Axel knew Sora, and Sora didn’t know how he knew him… Anyone like this hypothosis? Again, I was just spit-balling.
on 20 May 2007 at 4:03 am 291. Cloud
to evoba esir, there is no ‘real axel’, axel is a competly new nobody and his heartless became a heartless, the real axel is gone so it cant be him, also the three knights had conections to Organization XIII so when he says ive seen u somwere before, hes probably meeining roxas, like xigbar and luxford kept referringto sora as roxas. also sora cant be a noboy becasue nobodies hav no hearts and therefore ant control a keyblade, roxas is an exception becasue he was created and sora came back, similar to namine and her specaial ability, to shakespeare, kairis heart rested in sora, so sora had 2 hearts techinically, his own and kairirs resting heart, that is how sora was able to reawake kairi. The soul is the third part to a person but what if ansem was wrong about the soul thing, that may be what chasers (first kh2 secrt video) truly are, its just a thoery but what if chasers are truly souless beings and are ‘chasing’ there former beings. also the chainless keyblades should be considered, terra and the other keyblades in the fields had no keychains so maybe that is the original form of the keyblade andthus unlocking its full potential, these are just theories aout it
on 20 May 2007 at 5:03 pm 292. Shakespeare
Evoba; The battle does take place in the past, from what we can tell. Nomura has been vague. Also, it can be inferred that the knights lost, since in FM+, Xemnas is in possession of Aqua’s armor, and I doubt that she would just randomly hand it over. It’s also laying in a position that doesn’t suggest deliberate display.
DiZ didn’t have a Nobody, the existence of the Nobody was unknown before their research. ‘Aqua’, ‘Ven’ and ‘Terra’ don’t rearrange to form any Organization members’ names, so they can’t be their Somebodies.
Axel knew Sora because the Organization knew that Roxas’s somebody was Sora. Axel also wouldn’t have been left ignorant if he was going to be part of the Castle Oblivion team. (And a Nobody can’t have a Nobody. Something without a heart can’t lose a heart, because it doesn’t have one.)
Cloud; I’m not sure why you directed the note about Kairi’s heart being inside Sora to me…since I know that already and have mentioned it several times. Kairi has lost her memories on several occasions, though…first when she arrived at Destiny Islands, then when Naminé altered everyone’s memories.
The Chasers can’t be without souls. Ansem the Wise wasn’t mistaken; looking at the history of the role of souls in Nomura’s games shows this. If you remove the soul, you will die. Ansem the Wise wouldn’t have recorded that if it hadn’t been tested and found true.
And I made mention of the chainless Keyblades in another post; the link is in my name. Worth noting is that Terra’s Keyblade has a place to equip a Keychain…it just doesn’t happen to have one equipped.
on 20 May 2007 at 9:06 pm 293. A Passing Nobody
Yikes! Terra is equal to about 7 sephrioths….attacking at once
on 22 May 2007 at 2:21 pm 294. Shakespeare
And with +400 HP, to boot.
on 22 May 2007 at 3:12 pm 295. khfan
If Ansem the wise transferred Roxas to the data world of Twilight Town would Roxas’s (supposed) heart been transfered too? But when Ansem the wise attempted to transfer Xemnas’ Kingdom Hearts it didn’t work. So Roxas couldn’t have had a heart.
on 22 May 2007 at 3:15 pm 296. khfan
Also, if anyone really noticed Ansem from kh1 he bore the ‘Emblem’ symbol only given to heartless that were artificially created stating that he could not have been Xehanorts heartless but (in my opinion) the bald mans heartless from the secret movie in kh2: fm+.
on 23 May 2007 at 6:34 am 297. Shakespeare
Ansem’s Emblem was a brooch that he wore to keep his coat shut. He was the one who designed the Emblem in the first place. When you fight him at End of the World when he’s attached to the giant Heartless Ship, he doesn’t have an Emblem. (I should know…I spent a good deal of that fight staring at his chest. Hoo…)
on 23 May 2007 at 6:36 am 298. Shakespeare
(Also to note: Hollow Bastion’s Great Crest was the Heartless Emblem. The whole CASTLE wasn’t a Heartless…)
on 23 May 2007 at 8:07 pm 299. Sephiros
The soul is not the third aspect of a whole being. A nobody is made of soul and body, it is in an ansem report. How a body of its own can have life without a soul, it must have a soul to be alive. So the heartless are only the heart, and the nobodies are body and soul. The third aspect is something different, like memories, or the mind, I really dont know.
on 24 May 2007 at 2:31 pm 300. Shakespeare
Just because the third aspect can’t be removed while preserving the other two doesn’t mean that it isn’t the third aspect. If you remove the heart from a being, then the heart continues on as a Heartless (we’ll consider a Heartless to be some sort of temporary body created from Darkness; the state of being a Heartless is unnatural, so the Heart waits to be returned either to its body, or to Kingdom Hearts)
Think about it this way: If you remove the heart, then two incomplete beings come into existence. If you remove the body (i.e. destroy it in a fire or a nuclear explosion), then the Heart and soul are released back to the world. If you remove the soul, then a being ceases to live, and something that’s not alive can hardly be a whole being. (Besides, upon death, the heart would return to Kingdom Hearts as well. That’s why people don’t become Nobodies when they die; their soul has already left.)
Sora had his memories altered (and removed all together in some places) by Namine in Chain of Memories. This removal of his memories didn’t suddenly make him incomplete. Roxas lost his memories, too. (Granted, Roxas was incomplete fron the beginning, but it wasn’t his lack of memories that made him such). veryone who was connected with Sora. None of them became incomplete because of this.
Perhaps the two most telling examples are Xehanort himself and Kairi. Xehanort lost his memories long before he made his appearance in Kingdom Hearts; total amnesia. However, he was still a complete being (albeit missing an important part of his identity, but not his being as a whole). Also, memories aren’t ‘lost’…they’re still available somewhere in your mind. If they weren’t, then Namine would have had a hard time putting Sora back together; she can’t work with memories if there are none.
Second case in point is Kairi. She, too, has total amnesia regarding her life before arriving on Destiny Islands. She doesn’t remember anything about Hollow Bastion, no matter how hard she tries…but the memory of the fairy tale her grandmother told her still remains in her heart. Those memories aren’t gone, they’re just inaccessible for whatever reason. Even after recovering her heart, Kairi doesn’t remember her life before, and she is still complete.
In short, memory is an aspect of a person, but not of a being.
on 26 May 2007 at 3:32 am 301. Trace
Wow Shakes, I don’t check this mini-forum for a little bit and so much discussing has been going on! Allow me to admit that I am obsessed with fighting Xemnas. The battle is far too fun, but the sequences confuse me. Mainly at the end, after Xemnas himself is defeated (or perhaps reunited with his heart), a flock of Dusk Nobodies enter the scene. Do Sora and Riku fend them off or is the flash of white symbolic of something? I’ve also tried connecting Xehanort’s Heartless with the Old Man from the ‘Birth by Sleep’ scene. When “Ansem” summoned his guardian, I immediately thought of the Old Man and the masked fighter that pulled itself from him. Needless to say, there are supposed to be parallels between Xehanort’s Heartless and his Nobody in battle. But when you face off against Xemnas as he sits atop his giant behemoth of a throne, the buildings you run upon rise up, reminiscent to the way the Old Man manipulated the earth he and the Chasers battled upon. Am I overanalyzing or are there true parallels between Xehanort’s Heartless, his Nobody, and the Old Man that engaged Terra and the others in mortal combat?
on 26 May 2007 at 7:27 pm 302. daboringguy
the flash of light is when riku used some kind of final attack or sumthing and killed the nobodies
on 27 May 2007 at 9:54 pm 303. Shakespeare
I know the feeling, Trace! lol
Don’t forget that the Old Man made all the Keyblades fly around like some giant snake for the Dark Knight to ride on. And if my theory is correct, that the Old Man is Xehanort from the future (long after KH) and that the Dark Knight is Xehanort from the past (just before he turned up in Radiant Garden), then it would make sense for connections to exist between the two.
It would also explain why the old man can use a Keyblade. Granted, there are many wielders, but it seems to make sense that two of the same person could use a Keyblade. After all, Sora and Roxas use Keyblades, and they’re essentially the same person.
on 29 May 2007 at 2:31 am 304. Everblades
What if they are the nobodies of Sora, Riku, and Kairi. I don’t know if any one thought of this so sorry if you did.
on 29 May 2007 at 5:23 am 305. Trace
A Nobody is created at the same moment a Heartless is created, essentially. Roxas came about when Sora was turned into a Heartless and Namine came about when Kairi’s heart was released from Sora’s. Both of their Nobodies are unique in the ways they were created and the circumstances with which their Somebodies (Sora and Kairi) were involved, such as Sora regaining his human self thanks to Kairi and not staying a Heartless. Riku gave in to the Darkness and, correct me if I am wrong, but his heart went to Kingdom Hearts, didn’t it? Otherwise he would not have been on the other side of the Door, right? Which means he, too, became a Heartless of sorts, right? But his circumstances were also unique because he regains his body and heart at the end of Kingdom Hearts. If Riku became a Heartless, no matter how, then his Nobody is somewhere out there, too.
And there doesn’t have to be a connection in their names, right? Xemnas gave everyone their names, aparently - at least with Roxas. The whole ‘X in the Name’ fad was just with Organization XIII. Riku’s Nobody could have an identity and everything , couldn’t he? And would the Riku Replica also have a Nobody of sorts? Granted his heart was artificial, would it work the same way as a real heart? Riku seemed to know. After they fought, he claimed that his replica’s heart would go to where his (Riku’s) would go.
All we know is that Terra, Ven, and Aqua have obvious connections to Sora, Riku, and Kairi, (not necessarily respectively). Who knows what will be unveiled in the future…?
on 29 May 2007 at 10:09 pm 306. Zach
Commenting on your post Shakespeare, Because his keyblade has no Keychain Attached, then his keyblade must be a keyblade in its purest form, because even the Kingdom Key has a keychain on it, and its considered the “generic keyblade”.
on 30 May 2007 at 4:09 pm 307. JUDGEMENTKEY
Well you know how Ansem the wise supposedly died in the explosion of his machine? Well you don’t think that could be his heartless do you? Because when a person dies or something (this is just a guess) but doesn’t he lose his heart? And that thing next to him maybe that’s his nobdy. It’s a good guess isn’t it?
on 30 May 2007 at 4:11 pm 308. JUDGEMENTKEY
The bald guy in the secret ending that is. I’m not talking about the enigmatic soldier.
on 30 May 2007 at 4:58 pm 309. theheartlessleader
wtf! that was sweet
on 05 Jun 2007 at 3:41 pm 310. soraguy
…………..what happend last night???????????????
on 06 Jun 2007 at 8:44 pm 311. Reese
actually ansem the wise could still be alive remembered when he said anything could happen
on 06 Jun 2007 at 8:44 pm 312. Reese
actually ansem the wise could still be alive remembered when he said anything could happen
on 06 Jun 2007 at 8:52 pm 313. axellover500
wyd u rite 2 times
on 06 Jun 2007 at 9:06 pm 314. Sora Rules
hi
on 09 Jun 2007 at 8:39 pm 315. onon
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on 13 Jun 2007 at 5:39 pm 316. The Three Eyed King
Hmm…I hve just read everyone’s theories and I think that Shakespeare and Trace re probably the most accurate…so I’ll leave you guys to make theories.
on 17 Jun 2007 at 11:27 am 317. Mixup
Shakes and Trace… You guys REALLY wanna make a link between Xehanort’s Heartless/Nobody and the Old Guy?
Well, how about this?
1. The E.S. battle in Final Mix+… he goes on about how he hates Xehanort. And it was the Old Guy that he hates in the trailer, right?
2. The clothes that the Old Guy wears are almost exactly the same as the clothes that Xehanorts Heartless wore, right?
3. The weird Shadow that the Old Guy summons looks almost exactly the same as Riku did when he was possessed but Xehanort’s Heartless, right?
4. And finally… when you fight against Xehanort’s Nobody and he sits on top of his throne in the building wearing armor… that armor looks almost EXACTLY like the armor that the E.S. and the other two wore.
So far, I have deduced that this trailer is in the past. Xehanort was an ally of those three knights and was a Keyblade Master himself. Xehanort somehow lost and was found all battered up on Ansem’s doorstep with no memories, where he was taken in by the foolish man. And the rest after that is explained in KH2.
And on one final note… Trace. You said that Riku lost his Heart and that is why he was there at the end of the first KH. No. He was always there with them. Even during the battle with Xehanort’s Heartless, as the Heartless was actually using Riku’s body. The blast of Light that came out of the Door gave Riku control of himself, and that is why he was in there. He went in the door himself, just as Mickey did some time before that.
(I would also Like to point out that I do not think that really was Kingdom Hearts at the end of the first game. After all… why would Kingdom Hearts be full of Heartless? It was really the Realm of Darkness in there, we can guess that from the fact that Mickey was there, and that they later talk about how Mickey and Riku escaped from the Realm of Darkness, and not from Kingdom Hearts.)
Sorry it is so long…
on 18 Jun 2007 at 6:55 pm 318. Gemini
What happened to the first vid?
on 19 Jun 2007 at 12:31 am 319. twilightgamer92
I think that Sora is the bodily reincarnation of Ven. And the reason that Sora’s heart could be connected to both the Kingdom Key and the Star Seeker is because the Kingdom Key is made out of the light part of Ven’s heart. This is why Sora and Roxas could use two keyblades. sora just needed help using two because using more than one eyblade puts a strain on one’s heart. Roxas, being a nobody didn’t really have a heart and therefore didn’t have a heart to put a strain on.
on 19 Jun 2007 at 12:37 am 320. twilightgamer92
Oh, and Mixup, Nomura did say that Riku lost his heart temporarily. Have you ever played KHFM? Riku’s heart woke up at the Door to Darkness where the king talked to him about how the door had to be sealed and that both he and Riku were sent there to help seal the door. However, when Xehanort was shot by the light of the door, Xehanort’s heart was sent to Kigdom Hearts and Riku’s “Nobody” was returned to him. It’s very complicated.
on 19 Jun 2007 at 12:44 am 321. twilightgamer92
Kairi also might be the bodily reincarnation of Aqua. The reason that Xehanort sent Kairi to Destiny Island is because he somewhat recalled Aqua so Xehanort sensed the connection betwen Aqua and Kairi. So, Xehanort sent Aqua (Kairi) to find the keyblade that belonged to Ven (Sora).
on 19 Jun 2007 at 12:55 am 322. twilightgamer92
Although while I don’t think that Riku can’t be the bodily reincarnation of Terra (especially since Terra is ALIVE), Riku and Terra are SIMILAR. Since Riku=Land and Terra=Earth and both Riku and Terra changed their eye color some time in their lives. Riku was also very skilled in Darkness and Terra is skilled in Light. However, Riku and Xehanort are also similar. They both shared a body and both of them conquered each other (post KH: CoM, pere KH2 Riku accepted Xehanort’s darkness but didn’t lose himself to Xehanort). Xehanort and Terra also have similar hair styles so Xehanort and Terra might be brother’s and Terra would have even MORE hatred for Xehanort because Xehanort betrayed Terra. This act of hatred might come from the battle of Terra, Aqua, Ven vs. Old Man and the Dark Soilder because I think Xehanort IS the Dark Soilder. But Xehanort’s keyblade didn’t have a keychain so, like Ven’s, it could’ve snapped at the end of the battle.
on 19 Jun 2007 at 1:04 am 323. twilightgamer92
One more thing: Xigbar said when “the people that weilded the blade of keys were gone, a man who had lost his memories had appeared” meaning Xehanort. I think that the old man used that kingdom hearts he created to fuse his heart with the Dark Soilders, creating Xehanort.
on 19 Jun 2007 at 4:09 am 324. Mixup
ok… lemme just say this. after all the effort i put into explaining that this is not based in the past, u still think that it comes before the KH games. another thing… Terra ain’t alive, that battle is similar to the Timeless River level, wher you actually go to some other time (or even dimension)
on 19 Jun 2007 at 4:11 am 325. Mixup
and… the dark soldier is similar to the shadow that followed the last boss of KH1. The old guy simply summoned it, it is not another person.
on 19 Jun 2007 at 4:12 am 326. Mixup
holy crud… just had an idea.
we all agreed it is in the past, yes?
well… in the trailer we see old Xehanort. we also see riku’s keyblade. that keyblade only looks like that because it formed around the cool sword he uses in KH1.
It looks like that because Riku had it. so how can it already look like that if it is in the past?
The keyblade got that appearance in the present, so that keyblade they show is in the future!
i tried convincing u guys before, but this is HARD to argue against.
I convinced that it is NOT in the past!
on 19 Jun 2007 at 2:29 pm 327. twilightgamer92
Alright, Mixup! Way to the Dawn only appeared in the KH2 Secret Ending but not the KH2FM+ ending. Ven picked up Way to the Dawn in the KH2 secret ending but the blade wasn’t in his hand in the KH2FM+ secret ending. The first secret ening just meant that Ven was the previous weilder of twilight. Ven also (possibly) died in the battle and his keyblade was snapped in half. One half might’ve been crafted into Sora’s keyblade and the other might’ve been crafted into mickey’s. But Ven’s heart might’ve been used to craft sora’s keyblade which would explin why the keyblade found Sora but Riku could use it for a while because both Ven and Riku were meant to be weilders of twilight. Call it far fetched if you will but then again it is a little bit far fetched but there’s as much a chance that that theory’s possible as much as possible that the secret endings took place in the future. But if your right about the battle between Sora and Terra being a battle like Timeless River then Riku COULD be the bodily reincarnation of Terra. but how do you have proof that the battle between Sora and Terra was just like Timeless River?
on 19 Jun 2007 at 2:44 pm 328. twilightgamer92
Okay I just rembered the portal in Disney Castle but I don’t remember if the portal appeared by replacing the door timeless river or not. So okay, sora fought Terra in a different time *coughpastcough*. After both fights, Terra might’ve took his own life and was then reincarnated into Riku. Another far fetched idea, but just as likely as this taking place in the future.
on 20 Jun 2007 at 12:11 pm 329. Mixup
ok… lets make this short and simple…
Xehanort in KH2=young.
Xehanort in KH3=old.
put them together.
and what you said about how Way to the Dawn was only in the first trailer… you don’t you think of them as Part 1 and Part 2 of ONE trailer, and not two different ones… then you might see where I am coming from.
now I have explained my theories… but, what makes YOU so sure it is in the past?
also, i just found yet another link between Xehanort and Terra (+ others)… the music that plays in KH2 while you are fighting Xemnas for the last 2 times is almost exactly the same as when you fight Terra in KH2FM+.
it would not be coincidence that they have almost the same theme music, right?
on 20 Jun 2007 at 12:22 pm 330. Mixup
and if my theory is correct, i have another one to throw into the mix. if it is in the future, and the three knights are linked to Sora’s gang (nomura said it, not me) then maybe the three knights could be children of the Gang, their Nobodies, or even going back to my Third Element theory, and that those three are the remains of someone with an INCREDIBLY strong heart and mind becoming a Heartless and Nobody. like… Heart=Heartless, Body and Soul=Nobody, and maybe Mind=?
after all… Sora’s trademark Crown symbol does appear a lot. an example is when you are Roxas and you first discover the lab in the mansion… the drawing on the table has the symbols of the Heartless and Nobodies, then Roxas draws the Crown on it to reveal the stairs. the Crown is the symbol of some other element, and since people generally wear crowns on their heads, i think the third element is Mind.
if you must keep disagreeing with my theory of the trailer being in the future, at least let me know what you think about this Third Element one.
on 20 Jun 2007 at 3:42 pm 331. twilightgamer92
That third element was Humans. If you look in the Guide Book you see that people like Hayner, Hades, Barbossa, and Scar belong to that categorie. And yes, I don’t think that the two secret endings are starter and sequel. And even if they were this could still take in the past. Soul Eater baecame Way to Dawn when Riku found his true light. In the past, Way to Dawn may have become Soul Eater because Ven lost the light.
on 21 Jun 2007 at 11:39 pm 332. winterssblade
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on 21 Jun 2007 at 11:50 pm 333. winterssblade
wow this is all realy confuseing….so i am gussing that khfm is never making its way to america?
on 22 Jun 2007 at 1:02 am 334. Mixup
No. Not the first FM. FM+ will, though…
And Twilight… it can’t be in the past. Mickey only got his Keyblade recently before the first game. And if it is in the past, then how does Terra in FM+ know to call Xehanort by that name (even though he only got that name fairly recently)
Add that with what I have said before, and it is getting more and more evident that I may be right.
Just another thing to throw into the mix…
We know what names the Three Knights go by, and we know that Xehanort betrayed them, and we know that that is not his real name, AND we know that the Three have names that are Latin for Water, Earth and Wind.
I submit to you that before Xehanort got his name from Ansem, he true name was the Latin word for fire. (Ignis). But if we look at all the evidence that I have put forward, and the actual way Terra acts, and what we know about Xehanort from the game… it is becoming more and more apparent that this might actually be in both the past AND future.
After all… when interviewed about it, didn’t Nomura say that, too?
And again, let me ask you… why are you so sure that it is in the past?
I have found a lot of evidence to say that it’s in the future, but what do you have?
on 23 Jun 2007 at 1:54 pm 335. Oathkeeper
but there is so much evidence that it is in the past, most of all the fact that mickey is wielding starseeker which HE used BEFORE KH1 and KH2 because in those 2 he has the golden kingdom key and sora gets given it from master yen sid because it was HIS to give to his apprentices like mickey which he was a long time time ago. basically mickey cant have starseeker because sora has it and the golden kingdom key is so much more powerful and there’s proof that mickey used it when he was an apprentice of yen sids (i just repeated myself soz lol)
on 24 Jun 2007 at 8:40 am 336. Mixup
But, the Starseeker was not given to Sora by Yen Sid.
Sora got it from the three Fairies as an add on to the powers of his new clothes.
You say that there is so much evidence saying that it is in the past, but you really only said one thing just now.
On top of it all, you can’t get a Keyblade like the Starseeker without a normal Keyblade… Keyblades get their new powers and appearances from attaching a new Keychain to an existing Keyblade. Which means Mickey needed to have the Realm of Darkness’s Kingdom Key BEFORE he had the Starseeker. The King attached the Starseeker’s Chain to his Kingdom Key.
Again, I have to disagree with you about this being in the past. Given what I keep saying, and also what you guys are saying about this being in the past, AND the fact Nomura said this can be considered as being in the past AND future… I have a new theory.
This trailer really is in the future, however, all this has actually before… think of it as KW II (Keyblade War Two)
The Old guy we see in this is Xehanort, or perhaps even going back to my old theory of a Third Element, (another type of Heartless/Nobody creature) once again causing trouble as he has in the past 3 games, and once even before that.
Once again, though… I have to say this.
Even though the Starseeker is not the Keyblade we see Mickey using in the game, it IS still a Keyblade. And Mickey never got his Keyblade till after the start of KH1. This just CAN’T be in the past. Almost everything we see in the trailer is proven to be after the start of the first game.
And, yet again… a simple solution…
Xehanort in games = young
Xehanort in trailer = old
Do the math, guys.
I am done trying to convince you guys… I will continue to believe this is in the future until someone actually brings out proof, and I mean PROOF of this being in the past. Because, anything you can say, I will have an argument for.
Trust me. It is a never ending dispute.
You won’t believe me, and I won’t believe you.
I just hope that an official solution to this little debate comes out real soon, eh?
on 03 Jul 2007 at 9:22 pm 337. twilightgamer92
You want proof? Alright. Ansem wrote in his second report that Mickey came to him weiliding a keyblade. It could either Star Seeker or his Kingdom Key. Mickey also said told Riku in KHFM that he was sent to the realm of darkness and found the dark realm’s keyblade (his present keyblade). Mickey also said that he trained with Yen Sid, so that Star Seeker might’ve been given to him, but he lost it between when he visited Ansem and the events of KH1. Also, STAR SEEKER IS NOT JUST A KEYCHAIN! When Sora first went into Valor Form he first got Star Seeker. Goofy even said “two keyblades!” This means that Sora’s heart is linked to both Kingdom Key and Star Seeker. Also, why did you call Xehanort “Ignis?” That’s not his real name. Although you have a point. Earth, Wind, Water, and Fire are the four elements, but the worlds are made up of water, land and wind while fire doesn’t make up the world (unless you count heat). But Riku is japanese for land, Kairi is japanese for sea, and Sora is japanese for sky. But If your Ignis theory is correct, the next big villian may be named Hinote(japanese for fire).
on 04 Jul 2007 at 1:39 pm 338. twilightgamer92
But I have one more piece of evidence that it takes place in the past: Xemnas talked to Aqua’s armor before the events of KH1. How do you explain that? But know, after thinking about your Ignis theory and my theory that Riku is Terra’s reincarnation, Kairi is Aqua’s reincarnation, Sora is Ven’s reincarnation, I think that my OC Hinote is from the future and is Xehanort’s reincarnation. So, the next game might take place in both the past and the future. The secret ending could be Terra, Ven and Aqua fighting Xehanort and Hinote and at the end of it, Mickey comes with the Star Seeker and soon Sora (with both kingdom keys), Riku and Kairi will come to join the fight.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:07 am 339. KHscholar
Ok, I’ve read a lot of your replies and done a decent amount of research. I gather that the video where Ven, Aqua, and Terra fight an old man is indeed in the past. I also believe that the old man is in fact xehanort as well as ignis. You see, he is the fourth member and knight that betrays the other three because while the other three “chasers” seeked to find both darkness AND light, (why i cant say) Ignis was only searching for darkness, believing in its sheer power. This is why terra aboars Ignis, (also Xehanort). Now, the reason king mickey has the star seeker in his hands is because it is in the past, he fights alongside the three chasers wielding star seeker because, as Yen Sid said, it is his to give to his APPRENTICES, not his GRADUATES. Thus, starseeker is as generic a blade as the kingdom key. Only when king mickey mastered his own heart did he get his tru keyblade, which was the kingdom key in reverse (in other words, the true form of his heart was a keyblade that was as powerful as the generic kingdom keys were weak.) When Ven fights Ignis, he is frozen, and his keyblade shattered, which is why Sora, upon realizing his destiny in kingdom hearts 1, received not his own keyblade, but the generic kingdom key. (You see, by generic keyblade i mean it is an artificial shell that can be wielded by any strong heart, rather than a unique keyblade that can only be wielded by its true masters heart.)
Of course, we cannot assume Ignis defeated the chasers, but perhaps, he himself upon reaching kingdom hearts and opening it, became so powerful his own corruption was the end of him,and he was reincarnated into Xehanort, with no memories of what he was. Xehanort was then taken in by Ansem, who gave him the name Xehanort.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:17 am 340. KHscholar
In the trailer, when a large amount of words appear on screen almost at once, one of the phrases is “Memory of Xehanort”. I think what that means is that Xehanort shared Ignis’s obsession with wielding the power of darkness because his memories were never lost, as memories can never be lost, they simply became inaccessible, why still shaping the personality and heart of the character. He became split into a nobody and heartless, both of which you defeat. When Sora defeated his heart(or, the heartless form of him), he opened the door to the realm of darkness, which Riku and King Mickey entered and became trapped in. They eventually escaped, joining Sora in fighting with Xemnas, Xehanort’s nobody.
I agree that there is no third element. Heartless are with hearts and nobodies are with body and soul.
When you fight enigmatic soldier (Terra), you are fighting him in a timeless river fashion, in that you entered the past to fight him.
The scene where you see Xehanort possessing Aqua’s armor is significant in that it explains why Kairi is always without her memories. Since she is the reincarnation of Aqua, when Aqua was destroyed Kairi’s “chain of memories” were severed, meaning she could never truly realize all her memories (that is yet to be seen however, she might get them back in KH3).
These chasers arent their own seperate beings, they are humans with powerful hearts, and they are only called chasers because of their occupation, chasing after the darkness and light.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:18 am 341. KHscholar
Now, I know there may be holes in my argument, please feel free to discuss, thats what im here for.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:22 am 342. KHscholar
Oh, and one more thing, i think the keyblade having a keychain or not having a keychain is irrelevant, i think the chain is another metaphor for a person’s chain of memories, and a keyblade having a chain on it just means it is wielded by someone, and shares the wielder’s memories, while a chainless keyblade is one still looknig for a master, whether or not it is being wielded by one already.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 5:33 pm 343. twilightgamer92
Thanks for agreeing with me, KHscholar. But I do have some arguments. I think the Old Man is the real Xehanort and he made a deal with the Dark Soilder whom I believe is Ignis, who held the power of Balance (which is a special type of twilight where light and darkness are seperate instead of mixed.) During the Fight, Xehanort was feeding off Ignis’ power, which is why he looks like he does in KH1. However, Xehanort and Ignis killed Aqua and Ven, leaving Terra alone, without the will to go on. However, Terra fought Sora, twice, which motivated Xehanort to find and kill Xehanort and Ignis. However, Ignis was dying and Xehanort was feeding off Ignis’ darkness making him young. However, Terra and Xehanort fight and Terra is mortally wounded but he defeats and spares xehanort, using the power of light to send him to another land (Radiant Garden). A dying Terra sacrifices the rest of his life force to save Ignis, and with his dying breath tells Ignis he forgives him. Ignis thanks him and says that until he finds his darkness, he abandons the name Ignis and goes by Hinote.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 5:56 pm 344. twilightgamer92
But how could Kairi’s memories be rattled if Aqua is killed? If Kairi is Aqua’s reincarnation, then Aqua should’ve died around the time Kairi was born. Maybe when five-year-old Kairi really had a good look at Xehanort before she was sent to Destiny Island, one of Aqua’s memories appeared and rattled Kairi’s “chain of memories” and she lost all of hers except her name. But I do agree with your Star Seeker theory. But I think that when Ven’s keyblade snapped, the light and darkness in it were forged out of the remains to make the two Kingdom Keys. I think that Ven used twilight, Terra used light, and Aqua used darkness. Which, for Riku and Kairi is ironic because Kairi uses light, Aqua used darkness, Riku used darkness, Terra used light. Anyway, for the Star Seeker theory, Sora must weild Star Seeker until he is ready to take Mickey’s kingdom key and become the hero of Twilight.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 9:16 pm 345. KHscholar
Although it does seem to make sense that Terra might have been alone, i doubt that Ignis was the dark figure that phased out of the old man. I think people read too much into it that anything phases out of him. I think the old man is Ignis (who is later reincarnated into Xehanort), that dark figure that phases out of him is merely a manifestation of the darkness that Ignis had gained control over when he reached Kingdom Hearts ( in other words, its basically just a power he obtained because he mastered the darkness to such a degree that he could make a clone, a shell of him using his darkness). And i dont think Sora’s kingdom key is his own, like i said before the only reason mickey’s kingdom key is unique is because since disney kingdom is his own domain, it makes sense that a kingdom key in reverse would be his true keyblade( so basically, if everyone and their mother could wield a keyblade, the kingdom key would be the ones given to grunts and foot soldiers in disney kingdom). Sora’s kingdom key is not however his heart’s true form. I dont think Ven’s keyblade shattering has anything to do with the forging of the other keyblades, its only significance is that it explains why Sora would have to have started off with a weaker keyblade like the kingdom key while Kairi and Riku almost automatically received their own unique keyblades.
I doubt Xehanort would be gathering power from Ignis to make himself look younger, to put it plainly, i dont think Ignis would put up with that crap. I do agree however that Terra most likely lost the will to fight after Ven and Aqua were defeated. It explains his rambling when you fight him as a secret boss. I also disagree with Terra forgiving Ignis, i doubt anyone but the hero of the story would do something so benevolent after being betrayed and having his two closest allies murdered at his hands.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 9:35 pm 346. twilightgamer92
“i doubt anyone but the hero of the story would do something so benevolent after being betrayed and having his two closest allies murdered at his hands.”
Suppose Terra is the hero of the next game? Also, “I doubt Xehanort would be gathering power from Ignis to make himself look younger, to put it plainly, i dont think Ignis would put up with that crap.”
Xehanort has done this before. Xehanort managed to convince Riku to give into darkness and then he used his body. Maybe Xehanort did the same thing to Ignis, promising him ultimate power in exchange for becoming his guardian. KH1 Xehanort probably did the same thing.But you’re probably right about him getting the guardian after reaching Kingdom Hearts.
on 07 Jul 2007 at 5:05 am 347. KHscholar
[Maybe Xehanort did the same thing to Ignis, promising him ultimate power in exchange for becoming his guardian]
I doubt if Ignis reached Kingdom hearts he would even needed a guardian. Maybe this all ties in with Aqua, after all the only reason Xehanort corrupted Riku into being his guardian was because he wanted to divide the group (Sora, Riku and Kairi) so that he could take Kairi’s heart with more ease (the whole seven princesses of heart blah blah). If you’re correct about Xehanort corrupting Ignis, then perhaps the dark figure is Ignis, and Xehanort was trying to reach Aqua (why i cant say, maybe something significant about her armor since he is found talking to it before the first game, or perhaps she was one of the last generation’s seven princesses of heart?).
on 08 Jul 2007 at 11:19 pm 348. twilightgamer92
[If you’re correct about Xehanort corrupting Ignis, then perhaps the dark figure is Ignis, and Xehanort was trying to reach Aqua (why i cant say, maybe something significant about her armor since he is found talking to it before the first game, or perhaps she was one of the last generation’s seven princesses of heart?)]
I’m not sure that Aqua was a princess of heart, unless there are princess of darkness. In the first movie, Agua picked up mickey’s keyblade. That keyblade was the realm of darkness’ keyblade, so Aqua might’ve been the Chaser of Darkness. Same goes for Terra and Ven. Terra picked up Sora’s keyblade, making him the Chaser of Light, and Ven picked up Riku’s keyblade, making him the Chaser of Twilight.
on 09 Jul 2007 at 5:39 am 349. KHscholar
I doubt each chaser is chasing a different thing. If so, then what would Ignis be chasing after that was so different from the rest that he had to betray them? No, I think the chasers chased after all three elements, not in a search for power but to preserve balance. Ignis however, was searching only for darkness, which is what led him to betraying his friends and allowing Xehanort to corrupt him.
on 09 Jul 2007 at 2:04 pm 350. twilightgamer92
Maybe your right about them each chasing a different thing, but maybe Ignis tried to chase light, darkness, and twilight. I don’t know. Maybe you’re right about them all chasing light and darkness and and Ignis only went for darkness. BTW, if the old guy were Ignis, how could he be reincarnated into Xehanort so quickly? Xehanort was a man when Ansem found him, so maybe Xehanort did feed off Ignis power to make him younger but Terra defeated to him and destroyed most of his memory.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:44 am 351. KHscholar
[if the old guy were Ignis, how could he be reincarnated into Xehanort so quickly?]
Well lets take a step back for a tick. Nomura said in the interview that KH3 would take place in both the past and future. Because it came out of the creators mouth, we can safely assume it to be fact.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:44 am 352. TOXYGEN
maybe we should all lay off the lawyer battles, get off the laptop. go outside, do whatever. Get a job, get high, get laid. do watever, and then wait 1 year/ two and check out keyblade war…
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:50 am 353. KHscholar
*SORRY, I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED EARLY, I PRESSED ENTER TO TYPE ON A NEW LIEN BUT THE COMPUTER READ IT AS TO SEND THE POST, SO LET ME RESUME.*
Now that we know the game will take place in the past and future, would it be so hard to believe perhaps Ignis died, and was reincarnated into Xehanort.
What if, ands this is pure 100% theory here, Xehanort had been defeated by the reincarnations of the chasers when he was an adult, but before he could be killed, he used his last bit of power to transcend BACKWARD in time, where he landed in Radiant Garden and his memories befuddled, then he started his apprenticeship with Ansem and you know the rest.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 1:41 pm 354. twilightgamer92
Hmmm. That could be possible.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 9:42 am 355. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
Is it impossible that Sora,Riku and Kairi are the reincarnations of the chasers?It was very surprising to see Kairi wielding a keyblade in kh2.Was she able to do that because of her strong heart and will to save Sora,or does she keep a chaser’s spirit inside her?Also if Sora is the reicarnation of either Ven or Terra,anyone would say that he’s the reicarnation of Ven,as he resembles a lot Roxas,but I would prefer Terra.Maybe Ven has nothing to do with Roxas.You see if Sora and Terra are somehow deeply connected,their fight would become rather tragic and Nomura loves to create emotional situations.And if the old man is really Xehanort,why is he an old man anyway?The heartless and a nobody of an old-aged person are young?And another thing.Nobodies are not body and soul.They ‘re just empty bodies.if there was soul too,all nobodies would be like the organization’s.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:00 am 356. Tazimus Prime
Keybl@d3Ma$ter if you read the Secret Ansem Reports you learn that the Body and Soul are used in the creation of the Nobody, just has the Heart is used in the creation of the Heartless.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:04 am 357. Tazimus Prime
I would also like to remind people that Ignis is not the Old Mans name. His name hasn’t been released yet. Ignis is just something some one called him as a possible name. So please just call him Old Man or Bald Unknown or something along those lines.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:01 pm 358. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
May I ask something else? The secret trailer..not the complete one,the one that you get to watch i the simple Kh2…I haven’t managed to unlock it.Why?I have defeated Sephiroth,I’m 99 lvl and all of my statics too,I have completed Jimminy’s Journal and all in the proud mode.Please tell me,do I miss something?
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:18 pm 359. Thimien
on proud mode all you really need to do is complete the game.. so it should just come up after you complete it.
So i dont know whats up with your game… does it get stuck at any point in the credits, or does it just go to main menu after the video fo Sora opening the letter?
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:24 pm 360. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
After the video,it shows me a record board or something(how many times mickey helped me,the summon and drive i used most,lvl,% journal completion and other staff I don’t remember)and I have to turn off the playstation to go the main menu,or else it keeps showing the board thing.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:30 pm 361. Thimien
hmm that is weird… do you know anyone else that has a copy of the game you could try finish it with their copy see what hpns.
Because in my copy after all the videos and that info, i get the main menu again.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:31 pm 362. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
And what happens next? Xemnas is still defeated?
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:32 pm 363. Thimien
well yeah if you defeated him lol i dont understand why the secret video aint showing tho..
on 11 Jul 2007 at 11:35 pm 364. twilightgamer92
Keybl@d3Ma$ter: Sora is most likely Ven’s reincarnation because Ventus is latin for wind while Sora is japanese for sky. Riku would be most likely Terra’s reincarnation because Terra is latin for earth whil Riku is japanese for land.
Tazimus Prime: If I feel like calling the Old Unknown Ignis until the game comes out, I will do so as I damn well please, thank you.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 11:56 pm 365. Tazimus Prime
I doubt the entire reincarnation scenerio. Becuase Sora does mean Sky, Riku does mean land, and Kairi does mean Sea, but the latin terms are more specific on what they are. Ven (Ventus) means Wind, Caelum is latin for Sky, Terra means earth, Solum and Ager is latin for land, and Mare Maris, Quod, Profundum is latin for sea. Although the names are related to each other they mean different things. Plus Terra picked up Sora’s keyblade, Ven picked up Riku’s, and Aqua picked up King Mickey’s. If they were reincarnations of the knights wouldn’t Terra pick up Riku’s, Ven pick up Sora’s, and Aqua pick up the one Kiari used (Which was given to her by Riku. She got it by different means then the others got theirs).
on 12 Jul 2007 at 6:03 am 366. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
In KIngdom Hearts II,if you defeat Xemnas once,the next time you load the game,is he still defeated?
on 12 Jul 2007 at 6:42 am 367. KHscholar
technically no, because you’re re-loading your game you’re; loading where you last saved, which is right before you battle Xemnas, if there was a save point after his death you’d be able to save and thus the game record his defeat, but sadly thats not the case.
on 12 Jul 2007 at 6:48 am 368. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
Thank God.I thought I was the only one who fights him again and again and again and again because of the problem with the secret video if you read a few posts downwards.
on 12 Jul 2007 at 7:10 am 369. KHscholar
Glad to help. And does anyone know (and i bet this is going to spark so much stupid debate) for certain if KH2 final mix or final mix 2 or final mix + or ANY expansion to the game is coming out for north america? (Mainly US)
on 12 Jul 2007 at 7:19 am 370. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
There are many arguments there.I balieve that in the end KH2FM will be available in North America.But don’t expect it before next year.The translations and all will take a while.I hope that it will come out in North America ’cause I can’t really order the Japanese version and I ‘m not sure if it’s coming in Europe and espessially in Greece…
on 13 Jul 2007 at 7:11 pm 371. twilightgamer92
[ Plus Terra picked up Sora’s keyblade, Ven picked up Riku’s, and Aqua picked up King Mickey’s. If they were reincarnations of the knights wouldn’t Terra pick up Riku’s, Ven pick up Sora’s, and Aqua pick up the one Kiari used (Which was given to her by Riku. She got it by different means then the others got theirs).
]Sora, Riku, and Mickey were the ones who opened Kingdom Hearts. Maybe Terra, Aqua and Ven did, too.
on 14 Jul 2007 at 4:06 pm 372. Trace
I will not doubt that there isn’t at least a slight connection between the three Chasers and Sora, Riku, and King Mickey. But you can’t think that the keyblades belonged to only those three, (Sora and the others). The scene that entered my mind just now is at the beginning of Birth by Sleep, where Terra and the others walk toward the three keyblades jammed into the ground. First things first: how did they get there? Yes, yes, its Sora’s Kingdom key, and Mickey’s is there, too, and there’s Riku’s Way to the Dawn, but forget the fact that our three heroes use those blades. What are the blasted things doing there? I won’t try speculating, but it’s apparent that someone may have left them there, and I don’t think it was Sora and the others. Secondly, there are three Chasers and three keyblades. If Xehanort was a former ally to Terra, I’m guessing he already has the missing keyblade - and we’re talking about one who holds as much power as the others. Speaking of keyblades, what is the deal with the Keyblade field they’re all standing in? You saw the way the kingdom keys were positioned, by themselves in the middle of that intersection, whereas a mess of other keyblades practically form the roads that lead to the aforementioned intersection. Someone put them there for a reason. I don’t have any answers, but I can nitpick and feed the fires of speculation. Also, the likelihood of Final Mix+ coming to the US is more likely than it was a few years ago with Final Mix. KH is mad popular in the states and the corporate guys know that. They weren’t completely certain with the first installment, but when they released the second, they realized that they had a true following. So, yeah, I’m pretty sure KH2 FM+ will come out here. And they may even release the first FM for sh*ts and giggles. Hey, I’d still buy it.
on 14 Jul 2007 at 9:08 pm 373. twilightgamer92
In the second secret ending, Terra and company weren’t holding the keyblades. I don’t think that they ever picked them up in the first place. I think it just sybolizes that Terra weilded light, Aqua weilded Dark, and Ven weilded twilight.
on 16 Jul 2007 at 12:49 pm 374. Super Blah
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on 16 Jul 2007 at 1:10 pm 375. --;-)Mitchy;-)--
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on 18 Jul 2007 at 3:44 am 376. xavier
i dunno if anyone remembers the scene where roxas speaks with namine and then receives namines sketches, you then go to the library and roxas draws a symbol no one has ever seen before, there are three, the heartless symbol, the nobody symbol and another symbol, what i think is that there is another derived form from the characters, in another trailer i saw i could have sworn that the last guy shown, bfor mickey looks like xaldin, the one “killed” like roxas and the other like larxene, you connect the dots and let your imagination run wild with that
on 18 Jul 2007 at 2:40 pm 377. Taylor
This is probably gona sound a little stupid but i just cant get over the way tht a video game storyline gets so much attention an how frustrating it is tht we can only imagine wat is going to happen in KH 3 at this moment, but also how many ways this storyline cud go its just amazing.
on 23 Jul 2007 at 11:37 pm 378. twilightgamer92
I don’t know how many times I have to say this: THE THIRD SYMBOL REPRESENTS COMPLETE BEINGS!
on 31 Jul 2007 at 7:10 pm 379. kingmickey
How did he lose when Terra only 1 hp left?
on 31 Jul 2007 at 8:44 pm 380. twilightgamer92
Is that really important?
on 03 Aug 2007 at 6:09 pm 381. Tig3r
I know he’s in the secret ending from KH2… so is this form KH3 or KH2:FM?
on 07 Aug 2007 at 6:10 pm 382. twilightgamer92
You know how Nomura said that it would take place kinda in the past but kinda in the future? What if Xehanort is from the future and travels back in time, twice? The first to travel to KH1 and the second time to travel back in time again to when Terra, Aqua and Ven were alive?
on 07 Aug 2007 at 7:25 pm 383. twilightgamer92
You know how Nomura said that it would take place kinda in the past but kinda in the future? What if Xehanort is from the future and travels back in time, twice? The first to travel to KH1 and the second time to travel back in time again to when Terra, Aqua and Ven were alive!
on 16 Aug 2007 at 5:41 pm 384. kingdom hearts god
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on 16 Aug 2007 at 6:05 pm 385. ChainWielder33
So anyone here about how far they r one kingdomhearts 3 and when it will be released?
on 17 Aug 2007 at 8:42 pm 386. bob
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on 20 Aug 2007 at 9:25 pm 387. bobroks
in case you didnt kno aqua means water in latin ven means wind in latin and terra means earth in latin and sora means air in japanese kairi means sea in japanese and riku means land in japanese
think ven is the roxas look alike and he looks like sora and his name has a similar meaning aqua and kairi are the onlt females that we know can weild a keyblade and there names have similar meanings and by the look in terra’s eyes at the end of the video it looks like he might have given in to his rage and the darkness like riku nd there names have similar meanings lets forget about king mickey for now bcuz he isnt KING yet he’s still training.
heres my guess remember riku is a year older than sora and sora is around a year older than kairi my guess is during the keyblade war aqua and ven were married and they had sora who was turning one year old soon and riku was terra’s son and he was almost two years old then during the keyblade war ven died leaving aqua as a widow along with sora her son aqua then got re-married and had a girl kairi aqua died later into the keybade war leaving terra to watch over sora kairi and riku. then the world where terra riku sora and kairi lived in was destroyed sora and riku were sent to destiny islands and someone adopted sora and someone else adopted riku they grew up on destiny islands not remembering there original parents kairi and terra were sent to a differnt world where they lived for a year or two until that world was destroyed and kairi was then sent to destiny islands terra being full of rage of losing all three of the children and had also lost ven and aqua turned to his lat companion Xehanort terra changed his name to ais Pronounced ace) so he wouldnt be recognized by anyone then the world he and xehanort were in terra (now ais) was completely enraged and in his rage gave into the darkness and Xehanort lost his memory and was found by ansem the wise. terra (now ais) became a heartless because he gave into the darkness and his body that was left turned into saix like sora and riku terra came back from the darkness and became terra again. thats why when he fought sora in kh2finalmix (which takes place in the future because kh3 is the memories of xehanort) he said aqua ven (he sensed aqua and ven inside of sora) then he said keyblade ( he also sensed he could wield a keyblad) then he said who are you we have met before when before( he sensed he had met him before because he had known sora when sora was a baby) then he said no that isnt you why isnt it you ( he didnt think it could possibly be sora) (he thought it might have been xehanort because he was the only other one who could use the keyblade that he was able to remember)then he said what i sensed in you is ( he realized it was sora) so ya thats my theory
on 24 Aug 2007 at 6:13 pm 388. tim
where is the enigmatic soldier images? I have been looking for ever.
on 24 Aug 2007 at 11:34 pm 389. Nadara
what is the maximum hp in kh2 final mix becuase mine is 60hp but i saw a guy on youtube with a hp of 120 maybe it was long till the mp how can it be all this differnce can someone help me with this
i am not sure but the knight will appar on kh3 right so lets wait for it, i think it will need about another 2 years till it comes
on 25 Aug 2007 at 1:23 am 390. CosmosKnight303
bobroks that is a very good theory but i want to ask u what makes think he changed his name to ais?
on 26 Aug 2007 at 8:14 pm 391. undertaker
i think that aqua is related to ven by brother and sister and that aqua married terra. when u see ven’s face when he dies he looks like soar. that is a ginetic that is also passed to aqua becasue they are brother and sister. therefore when aqua married terra they had sora and the ginetic passed on making him look like ven. also terra picked up sora’s keyblade and the keyblade is pased down by family so since terra is his father that would mack sence that sora got the same keyblade
on 28 Aug 2007 at 8:23 pm 392. something
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on 29 Aug 2007 at 12:41 am 393. oblvionsoul
what do you get after beating terra the first time????
on 29 Aug 2007 at 12:41 am 394. oblvionsoul
what do you get after beating terra the first time????
on 02 Sep 2007 at 8:44 pm 395. Ghoster
I have herd that after you beat the ES/AU you get the summoning power of Micky.
But then again some things read on the net are lies.
on 06 Sep 2007 at 1:11 am 396. twilightgamer92
I think that Terra was Riku’s previous life, Aqua was Kairi’s previous life and Ven was Sora’s previous life. Ven looks a lot like Roxas, making me believe Ven was reincarnated and became Sora. Aqua’s hairstyle looks a lot like Kairi’s from KH1, making me think Aqua was reincarnated into Kairi. Now, Terra was the last soilder to “die.” Terra, alone and lost, fought with Sora. Terra sensed Aqua and Ven in Sora because Sora is Ven’s reincarnation and Aqua in him because Kairi’s heart once resided in Sora’s. Terra then confronted the Old Man and where in a fierce battle. The Old Man, dying, uses a spell that fuses his body with Terra’s, creating Xehanort. Terra’s soul then became reincarnated into Riku’s soul. This explains the deep conection between Riku and Terra’s name and why Riku’s scent is so similar to Xehanort and how come Riku could become Xehanort so easily.
on 09 Sep 2007 at 1:01 am 397. Egg
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on 09 Sep 2007 at 11:42 pm 398. twilightgamer92
Egg, you are an immature fool.
on 15 Sep 2007 at 1:25 am 399. beast
i think that no matter the outcome of the game, it will still completely dominate any other game i have played.
as for theorys i dont have any. i just rather leave that to the designers and be surprised.
on 16 Sep 2007 at 9:06 pm 400. marcus oertiz
listen i am really getiing tired of u telling me the same thing over and over again just tell me when kindom hearts 2 the final mix and kingdom hearts 3 is coming out and i juuusssssst want a straight up anwser okkkkkkk.
on 17 Sep 2007 at 7:45 am 401. somone
undertakers retarded when the keybearer dies the key blade will choose the next keybearer
on 05 Oct 2007 at 9:20 am 402. sora
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on 05 Oct 2007 at 9:20 am 403. sora
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on 21 Oct 2007 at 4:01 pm 404. flipA
idont believe they havent made a us version for kingdom hertas 2 fm i hate them it is not fair they get all the stinking fun
on 08 Nov 2007 at 12:06 am 405. nobody 2
I still think that ven n aqua are soras parents,that would explain wy sora was adopted because mx saw ven n aqua were going to kill him he sent him away as a warning.Also,maybe berth by sleep is called that because maybe aqua has sora while it’s night.
on 08 Nov 2007 at 12:08 am 406. nobody 2
why doesnt anyone comment anymore UNLESS ITS BEEN A-FREAKIN-WEEK?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 25 Nov 2007 at 5:37 pm 407. jake
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on 26 Dec 2007 at 5:13 am 408. Someone
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on 26 Dec 2007 at 5:15 am 409. Someoe
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on 29 Jan 2008 at 2:09 am 410. John
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on 01 Mar 2008 at 8:11 pm 411. nathan and keenan
We can’t wait until kingdom hearts 3 comes out. But one question… WHEN DOES IT COME OUT?!?!?! We want that game so badley!!! =P
on 08 May 2008 at 9:13 am 412. anonymus
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on 12 Apr 2009 at 6:30 pm 413. john
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on 24 Jul 2009 at 10:00 pm 414. jonasshole
dumbass
on 04 Oct 2009 at 11:16 pm 415. Lumin
Ven is short for Vetus, which is latin for wind
Ventus = wind
Sora = sky
Aqua = Water
Kairi = ocean/sea
Terra = Earth
Riku = Land
“Master” Xehanort = No Heart
Current Xehanort = Another
Current Xehanort = terra with amnesia and white hair.
KH BBS is set Ten YEARS before KHI.