Riku on 01 Apr 2007 06:58 pm
FM: Enigmatic Soldier Battle
“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!”
Thanks to Xevorili.
Final Mix: Secret Boss (Enigmatic Soldier) Defeated! (Aftermath)
Enigmatic Soldier: I see. Your strength is… What I sensed in you is…
(When returning for a rematch:)
Enigmatic Soldier: So you have returned, young Keyblade user. I have no further power to give you. All I have is my hatred towards Xehanort. Will you allow me to engrave that into your heart?
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on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:24 pm 360. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
After the video,it shows me a record board or something(how many times mickey helped me,the summon and drive i used most,lvl,% journal completion and other staff I don’t remember)and I have to turn off the playstation to go the main menu,or else it keeps showing the board thing.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:18 pm 359. Thimien
on proud mode all you really need to do is complete the game.. so it should just come up after you complete it.
So i dont know whats up with your game… does it get stuck at any point in the credits, or does it just go to main menu after the video fo Sora opening the letter?
on 11 Jul 2007 at 1:01 pm 358. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
May I ask something else? The secret trailer..not the complete one,the one that you get to watch i the simple Kh2…I haven’t managed to unlock it.Why?I have defeated Sephiroth,I’m 99 lvl and all of my statics too,I have completed Jimminy’s Journal and all in the proud mode.Please tell me,do I miss something?
on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:04 am 357. Tazimus Prime
I would also like to remind people that Ignis is not the Old Mans name. His name hasn’t been released yet. Ignis is just something some one called him as a possible name. So please just call him Old Man or Bald Unknown or something along those lines.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:00 am 356. Tazimus Prime
Keybl@d3Ma$ter if you read the Secret Ansem Reports you learn that the Body and Soul are used in the creation of the Nobody, just has the Heart is used in the creation of the Heartless.
on 11 Jul 2007 at 9:42 am 355. Keybl@d3Ma$ter
Is it impossible that Sora,Riku and Kairi are the reincarnations of the chasers?It was very surprising to see Kairi wielding a keyblade in kh2.Was she able to do that because of her strong heart and will to save Sora,or does she keep a chaser’s spirit inside her?Also if Sora is the reicarnation of either Ven or Terra,anyone would say that he’s the reicarnation of Ven,as he resembles a lot Roxas,but I would prefer Terra.Maybe Ven has nothing to do with Roxas.You see if Sora and Terra are somehow deeply connected,their fight would become rather tragic and Nomura loves to create emotional situations.And if the old man is really Xehanort,why is he an old man anyway?The heartless and a nobody of an old-aged person are young?And another thing.Nobodies are not body and soul.They ‘re just empty bodies.if there was soul too,all nobodies would be like the organization’s.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 1:41 pm 354. twilightgamer92
Hmmm. That could be possible.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:50 am 353. KHscholar
*SORRY, I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED EARLY, I PRESSED ENTER TO TYPE ON A NEW LIEN BUT THE COMPUTER READ IT AS TO SEND THE POST, SO LET ME RESUME.*
Now that we know the game will take place in the past and future, would it be so hard to believe perhaps Ignis died, and was reincarnated into Xehanort.
What if, ands this is pure 100% theory here, Xehanort had been defeated by the reincarnations of the chasers when he was an adult, but before he could be killed, he used his last bit of power to transcend BACKWARD in time, where he landed in Radiant Garden and his memories befuddled, then he started his apprenticeship with Ansem and you know the rest.
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:44 am 352. TOXYGEN
maybe we should all lay off the lawyer battles, get off the laptop. go outside, do whatever. Get a job, get high, get laid. do watever, and then wait 1 year/ two and check out keyblade war…
on 10 Jul 2007 at 2:44 am 351. KHscholar
[if the old guy were Ignis, how could he be reincarnated into Xehanort so quickly?]
Well lets take a step back for a tick. Nomura said in the interview that KH3 would take place in both the past and future. Because it came out of the creators mouth, we can safely assume it to be fact.
on 09 Jul 2007 at 2:04 pm 350. twilightgamer92
Maybe your right about them each chasing a different thing, but maybe Ignis tried to chase light, darkness, and twilight. I don’t know. Maybe you’re right about them all chasing light and darkness and and Ignis only went for darkness. BTW, if the old guy were Ignis, how could he be reincarnated into Xehanort so quickly? Xehanort was a man when Ansem found him, so maybe Xehanort did feed off Ignis power to make him younger but Terra defeated to him and destroyed most of his memory.
on 09 Jul 2007 at 5:39 am 349. KHscholar
I doubt each chaser is chasing a different thing. If so, then what would Ignis be chasing after that was so different from the rest that he had to betray them? No, I think the chasers chased after all three elements, not in a search for power but to preserve balance. Ignis however, was searching only for darkness, which is what led him to betraying his friends and allowing Xehanort to corrupt him.
on 08 Jul 2007 at 11:19 pm 348. twilightgamer92
[If you’re correct about Xehanort corrupting Ignis, then perhaps the dark figure is Ignis, and Xehanort was trying to reach Aqua (why i cant say, maybe something significant about her armor since he is found talking to it before the first game, or perhaps she was one of the last generation’s seven princesses of heart?)]
I’m not sure that Aqua was a princess of heart, unless there are princess of darkness. In the first movie, Agua picked up mickey’s keyblade. That keyblade was the realm of darkness’ keyblade, so Aqua might’ve been the Chaser of Darkness. Same goes for Terra and Ven. Terra picked up Sora’s keyblade, making him the Chaser of Light, and Ven picked up Riku’s keyblade, making him the Chaser of Twilight.
on 07 Jul 2007 at 5:05 am 347. KHscholar
[Maybe Xehanort did the same thing to Ignis, promising him ultimate power in exchange for becoming his guardian]
I doubt if Ignis reached Kingdom hearts he would even needed a guardian. Maybe this all ties in with Aqua, after all the only reason Xehanort corrupted Riku into being his guardian was because he wanted to divide the group (Sora, Riku and Kairi) so that he could take Kairi’s heart with more ease (the whole seven princesses of heart blah blah). If you’re correct about Xehanort corrupting Ignis, then perhaps the dark figure is Ignis, and Xehanort was trying to reach Aqua (why i cant say, maybe something significant about her armor since he is found talking to it before the first game, or perhaps she was one of the last generation’s seven princesses of heart?).
on 06 Jul 2007 at 9:35 pm 346. twilightgamer92
“i doubt anyone but the hero of the story would do something so benevolent after being betrayed and having his two closest allies murdered at his hands.”
Suppose Terra is the hero of the next game? Also, “I doubt Xehanort would be gathering power from Ignis to make himself look younger, to put it plainly, i dont think Ignis would put up with that crap.”
Xehanort has done this before. Xehanort managed to convince Riku to give into darkness and then he used his body. Maybe Xehanort did the same thing to Ignis, promising him ultimate power in exchange for becoming his guardian. KH1 Xehanort probably did the same thing.But you’re probably right about him getting the guardian after reaching Kingdom Hearts.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 9:16 pm 345. KHscholar
Although it does seem to make sense that Terra might have been alone, i doubt that Ignis was the dark figure that phased out of the old man. I think people read too much into it that anything phases out of him. I think the old man is Ignis (who is later reincarnated into Xehanort), that dark figure that phases out of him is merely a manifestation of the darkness that Ignis had gained control over when he reached Kingdom Hearts ( in other words, its basically just a power he obtained because he mastered the darkness to such a degree that he could make a clone, a shell of him using his darkness). And i dont think Sora’s kingdom key is his own, like i said before the only reason mickey’s kingdom key is unique is because since disney kingdom is his own domain, it makes sense that a kingdom key in reverse would be his true keyblade( so basically, if everyone and their mother could wield a keyblade, the kingdom key would be the ones given to grunts and foot soldiers in disney kingdom). Sora’s kingdom key is not however his heart’s true form. I dont think Ven’s keyblade shattering has anything to do with the forging of the other keyblades, its only significance is that it explains why Sora would have to have started off with a weaker keyblade like the kingdom key while Kairi and Riku almost automatically received their own unique keyblades.
I doubt Xehanort would be gathering power from Ignis to make himself look younger, to put it plainly, i dont think Ignis would put up with that crap. I do agree however that Terra most likely lost the will to fight after Ven and Aqua were defeated. It explains his rambling when you fight him as a secret boss. I also disagree with Terra forgiving Ignis, i doubt anyone but the hero of the story would do something so benevolent after being betrayed and having his two closest allies murdered at his hands.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 5:56 pm 344. twilightgamer92
But how could Kairi’s memories be rattled if Aqua is killed? If Kairi is Aqua’s reincarnation, then Aqua should’ve died around the time Kairi was born. Maybe when five-year-old Kairi really had a good look at Xehanort before she was sent to Destiny Island, one of Aqua’s memories appeared and rattled Kairi’s “chain of memories” and she lost all of hers except her name. But I do agree with your Star Seeker theory. But I think that when Ven’s keyblade snapped, the light and darkness in it were forged out of the remains to make the two Kingdom Keys. I think that Ven used twilight, Terra used light, and Aqua used darkness. Which, for Riku and Kairi is ironic because Kairi uses light, Aqua used darkness, Riku used darkness, Terra used light. Anyway, for the Star Seeker theory, Sora must weild Star Seeker until he is ready to take Mickey’s kingdom key and become the hero of Twilight.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 5:33 pm 343. twilightgamer92
Thanks for agreeing with me, KHscholar. But I do have some arguments. I think the Old Man is the real Xehanort and he made a deal with the Dark Soilder whom I believe is Ignis, who held the power of Balance (which is a special type of twilight where light and darkness are seperate instead of mixed.) During the Fight, Xehanort was feeding off Ignis’ power, which is why he looks like he does in KH1. However, Xehanort and Ignis killed Aqua and Ven, leaving Terra alone, without the will to go on. However, Terra fought Sora, twice, which motivated Xehanort to find and kill Xehanort and Ignis. However, Ignis was dying and Xehanort was feeding off Ignis’ darkness making him young. However, Terra and Xehanort fight and Terra is mortally wounded but he defeats and spares xehanort, using the power of light to send him to another land (Radiant Garden). A dying Terra sacrifices the rest of his life force to save Ignis, and with his dying breath tells Ignis he forgives him. Ignis thanks him and says that until he finds his darkness, he abandons the name Ignis and goes by Hinote.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:22 am 342. KHscholar
Oh, and one more thing, i think the keyblade having a keychain or not having a keychain is irrelevant, i think the chain is another metaphor for a person’s chain of memories, and a keyblade having a chain on it just means it is wielded by someone, and shares the wielder’s memories, while a chainless keyblade is one still looknig for a master, whether or not it is being wielded by one already.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:18 am 341. KHscholar
Now, I know there may be holes in my argument, please feel free to discuss, thats what im here for.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:17 am 340. KHscholar
In the trailer, when a large amount of words appear on screen almost at once, one of the phrases is “Memory of Xehanort”. I think what that means is that Xehanort shared Ignis’s obsession with wielding the power of darkness because his memories were never lost, as memories can never be lost, they simply became inaccessible, why still shaping the personality and heart of the character. He became split into a nobody and heartless, both of which you defeat. When Sora defeated his heart(or, the heartless form of him), he opened the door to the realm of darkness, which Riku and King Mickey entered and became trapped in. They eventually escaped, joining Sora in fighting with Xemnas, Xehanort’s nobody.
I agree that there is no third element. Heartless are with hearts and nobodies are with body and soul.
When you fight enigmatic soldier (Terra), you are fighting him in a timeless river fashion, in that you entered the past to fight him.
The scene where you see Xehanort possessing Aqua’s armor is significant in that it explains why Kairi is always without her memories. Since she is the reincarnation of Aqua, when Aqua was destroyed Kairi’s “chain of memories” were severed, meaning she could never truly realize all her memories (that is yet to be seen however, she might get them back in KH3).
These chasers arent their own seperate beings, they are humans with powerful hearts, and they are only called chasers because of their occupation, chasing after the darkness and light.
on 06 Jul 2007 at 1:07 am 339. KHscholar
Ok, I’ve read a lot of your replies and done a decent amount of research. I gather that the video where Ven, Aqua, and Terra fight an old man is indeed in the past. I also believe that the old man is in fact xehanort as well as ignis. You see, he is the fourth member and knight that betrays the other three because while the other three “chasers” seeked to find both darkness AND light, (why i cant say) Ignis was only searching for darkness, believing in its sheer power. This is why terra aboars Ignis, (also Xehanort). Now, the reason king mickey has the star seeker in his hands is because it is in the past, he fights alongside the three chasers wielding star seeker because, as Yen Sid said, it is his to give to his APPRENTICES, not his GRADUATES. Thus, starseeker is as generic a blade as the kingdom key. Only when king mickey mastered his own heart did he get his tru keyblade, which was the kingdom key in reverse (in other words, the true form of his heart was a keyblade that was as powerful as the generic kingdom keys were weak.) When Ven fights Ignis, he is frozen, and his keyblade shattered, which is why Sora, upon realizing his destiny in kingdom hearts 1, received not his own keyblade, but the generic kingdom key. (You see, by generic keyblade i mean it is an artificial shell that can be wielded by any strong heart, rather than a unique keyblade that can only be wielded by its true masters heart.)
Of course, we cannot assume Ignis defeated the chasers, but perhaps, he himself upon reaching kingdom hearts and opening it, became so powerful his own corruption was the end of him,and he was reincarnated into Xehanort, with no memories of what he was. Xehanort was then taken in by Ansem, who gave him the name Xehanort.
on 04 Jul 2007 at 1:39 pm 338. twilightgamer92
But I have one more piece of evidence that it takes place in the past: Xemnas talked to Aqua’s armor before the events of KH1. How do you explain that? But know, after thinking about your Ignis theory and my theory that Riku is Terra’s reincarnation, Kairi is Aqua’s reincarnation, Sora is Ven’s reincarnation, I think that my OC Hinote is from the future and is Xehanort’s reincarnation. So, the next game might take place in both the past and the future. The secret ending could be Terra, Ven and Aqua fighting Xehanort and Hinote and at the end of it, Mickey comes with the Star Seeker and soon Sora (with both kingdom keys), Riku and Kairi will come to join the fight.
on 03 Jul 2007 at 9:22 pm 337. twilightgamer92
You want proof? Alright. Ansem wrote in his second report that Mickey came to him weiliding a keyblade. It could either Star Seeker or his Kingdom Key. Mickey also said told Riku in KHFM that he was sent to the realm of darkness and found the dark realm’s keyblade (his present keyblade). Mickey also said that he trained with Yen Sid, so that Star Seeker might’ve been given to him, but he lost it between when he visited Ansem and the events of KH1. Also, STAR SEEKER IS NOT JUST A KEYCHAIN! When Sora first went into Valor Form he first got Star Seeker. Goofy even said “two keyblades!” This means that Sora’s heart is linked to both Kingdom Key and Star Seeker. Also, why did you call Xehanort “Ignis?” That’s not his real name. Although you have a point. Earth, Wind, Water, and Fire are the four elements, but the worlds are made up of water, land and wind while fire doesn’t make up the world (unless you count heat). But Riku is japanese for land, Kairi is japanese for sea, and Sora is japanese for sky. But If your Ignis theory is correct, the next big villian may be named Hinote(japanese for fire).
on 24 Jun 2007 at 8:40 am 336. Mixup
But, the Starseeker was not given to Sora by Yen Sid.
Sora got it from the three Fairies as an add on to the powers of his new clothes.
You say that there is so much evidence saying that it is in the past, but you really only said one thing just now.
On top of it all, you can’t get a Keyblade like the Starseeker without a normal Keyblade… Keyblades get their new powers and appearances from attaching a new Keychain to an existing Keyblade. Which means Mickey needed to have the Realm of Darkness’s Kingdom Key BEFORE he had the Starseeker. The King attached the Starseeker’s Chain to his Kingdom Key.
Again, I have to disagree with you about this being in the past. Given what I keep saying, and also what you guys are saying about this being in the past, AND the fact Nomura said this can be considered as being in the past AND future… I have a new theory.
This trailer really is in the future, however, all this has actually before… think of it as KW II (Keyblade War Two)
The Old guy we see in this is Xehanort, or perhaps even going back to my old theory of a Third Element, (another type of Heartless/Nobody creature) once again causing trouble as he has in the past 3 games, and once even before that.
Once again, though… I have to say this.
Even though the Starseeker is not the Keyblade we see Mickey using in the game, it IS still a Keyblade. And Mickey never got his Keyblade till after the start of KH1. This just CAN’T be in the past. Almost everything we see in the trailer is proven to be after the start of the first game.
And, yet again… a simple solution…
Xehanort in games = young
Xehanort in trailer = old
Do the math, guys.
I am done trying to convince you guys… I will continue to believe this is in the future until someone actually brings out proof, and I mean PROOF of this being in the past. Because, anything you can say, I will have an argument for.
Trust me. It is a never ending dispute.
You won’t believe me, and I won’t believe you.
I just hope that an official solution to this little debate comes out real soon, eh?
on 23 Jun 2007 at 1:54 pm 335. Oathkeeper
but there is so much evidence that it is in the past, most of all the fact that mickey is wielding starseeker which HE used BEFORE KH1 and KH2 because in those 2 he has the golden kingdom key and sora gets given it from master yen sid because it was HIS to give to his apprentices like mickey which he was a long time time ago. basically mickey cant have starseeker because sora has it and the golden kingdom key is so much more powerful and there’s proof that mickey used it when he was an apprentice of yen sids (i just repeated myself soz lol)
on 22 Jun 2007 at 1:02 am 334. Mixup
No. Not the first FM. FM+ will, though…
And Twilight… it can’t be in the past. Mickey only got his Keyblade recently before the first game. And if it is in the past, then how does Terra in FM+ know to call Xehanort by that name (even though he only got that name fairly recently)
Add that with what I have said before, and it is getting more and more evident that I may be right.
Just another thing to throw into the mix…
We know what names the Three Knights go by, and we know that Xehanort betrayed them, and we know that that is not his real name, AND we know that the Three have names that are Latin for Water, Earth and Wind.
I submit to you that before Xehanort got his name from Ansem, he true name was the Latin word for fire. (Ignis). But if we look at all the evidence that I have put forward, and the actual way Terra acts, and what we know about Xehanort from the game… it is becoming more and more apparent that this might actually be in both the past AND future.
After all… when interviewed about it, didn’t Nomura say that, too?
And again, let me ask you… why are you so sure that it is in the past?
I have found a lot of evidence to say that it’s in the future, but what do you have?
on 21 Jun 2007 at 11:50 pm 333. winterssblade
wow this is all realy confuseing….so i am gussing that khfm is never making its way to america?
on 21 Jun 2007 at 11:39 pm 332. winterssblade
as
on 20 Jun 2007 at 3:42 pm 331. twilightgamer92
That third element was Humans. If you look in the Guide Book you see that people like Hayner, Hades, Barbossa, and Scar belong to that categorie. And yes, I don’t think that the two secret endings are starter and sequel. And even if they were this could still take in the past. Soul Eater baecame Way to Dawn when Riku found his true light. In the past, Way to Dawn may have become Soul Eater because Ven lost the light.